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Marc said I can ask a question here...I am looking for other ESens lists or groups, (or any in the UK.) ? Specifically, for an alert to an action at a UK college lecture by Psychiatrist Simon Wessely, whose psych oriented "research" is being seen as increasingly more definitive in the WHO's statements on EMFs. (In addition to his Psych influence regarding ME/CFS/MCS/GWS/Chemicals, and WMDs.) And growing number of Clinics to administer Cognitive Behavioral Therapy ("stop *thinking* you are ill") for all of the above. He also has alot of influence with the US Govt. I can post about SW and the Lecture/Action if you want. An SW paper is in the archives here. Thank you for directing me to the groups, Katrina __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
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Hi, Katrina,
I have no info regarding your question, however, have a comment about thepsychiatrist. I believe he was the same psychiatrist who did "research" and came up with a program about 10 years ago for ppl with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome/(ME in the UK). His "findings" skipped the "pond" and ended up over here in the US, too. Not suprisingly his whole protocol and findings were the same for CFS/ME as you mention here. SO TYPICAL! Meanwhile, I cured myself of CFS/liver dysfunction/and another dozen plusserious health problems with a combination of eating differently (gluten free/sugar free/sweetener free/processed food free) and taking various nutritional supplementation. I have been able to either completely cure or control all my health problems except my hand tremor (so far--still working on that one) using only supplementation and food elimination! And I was very ill from birth. Interestingly, I have heard that the WHO has a program they are hoping topush thru (heard it was going to come down the pike in 2007) whereby they are going to ban OTC sales of nutritional supplements worldwide. I have seen an online document that they supposedly put out stating this. What a travesty if this is allowed to happen! The sugar lobbiests, etc, work to kill us and the WHO gives them the ammunition and ok to go ahead and do it. OK, now I am on a rant. Sorry. This all makes me very angry. My 2 cents, Diane Katrina Katrina <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi, Marc said I can ask a question here...I am looking for other ESens lists or groups, (or any in the UK.) ? Specifically, for an alert to an action at a UK college lecture by Psychiatrist Simon Wessely, whose psych oriented "research" is being seen as increasingly more definitive in the WHO's statements on EMFs. (In addition to his Psych influence regarding ME/CFS/MCS/GWS/Chemicals, and WMDs.) And growing number of Clinics to administer Cognitive Behavioral Therapy ("stop *thinking* you are ill") for all of the above. He also has alot of influence with the US Govt. I can post about SW and the Lecture/Action if you want. An SW paper is in the archives here. Thank you for directing me to the groups, Katrina __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Health and wellness Health wellness product Health and wellnessprogram Health promotion and wellness Health and wellness promotion Business health wellness --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "eSens" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I want to put my 4 cents in the pot. Two books may help a lot in explaining. 1. Amalgam Illness by Andrew Cutler 2. Lyme Disease and Rife machines: When antibiotics fail. See: http://www.lymebook.com/ A lot of diseases may have a Lyme background! Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evie" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 08:37 Subject: Re: [eSens] Other Lists or Activist Groups? Hi, Katrina, I have no info regarding your question, however, have a comment about the psychiatrist. I believe he was the same psychiatrist who did "research" and came up with a program about 10 years ago for ppl with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome/(ME in the UK). His "findings" skipped the "pond" and ended up over here in the US, too. Not suprisingly his whole protocol and findings were the same for CFS/ME as you mention here. SO TYPICAL! Meanwhile, I cured myself of CFS/liver dysfunction/and another dozen plus serious health problems with a combination of eating differently (gluten free/sugar free/sweetener free/processed food free) and taking various nutritional supplementation. I have been able to either completely cure or control all my health problems except my hand tremor (so far--still working on that one) using only supplementation and food elimination! And I was very ill from birth. Interestingly, I have heard that the WHO has a program they are hoping to push thru (heard it was going to come down the pike in 2007) whereby they are going to ban OTC sales of nutritional supplements worldwide. I have seen an online document that they supposedly put out stating this. What a travesty if this is allowed to happen! The sugar lobbiests, etc, work to kill us and the WHO gives them the ammunition and ok to go ahead and do it. OK, now I am on a rant. Sorry. This all makes me very angry. My 2 cents, Diane |
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> Interestingly, I have heard that the WHO has a program they are hoping
> to push thru (heard it was going to come down the pike in 2007) whereby > they are going to ban OTC sales of nutritional supplements worldwide. Apparently there has been groups trying to ban supplements for decades, but they have not been very successful -- at least where I live. On one list I subscribe to, someone was trying to convince us all that all supplements would dissappear off the shelves in August 2005. Well, August 2005 came and went, and nothing happened... If one is very concerned about supplements going away, then I suppose one should focus on trying out various foods for healing. It seems much less likely that there will be a ban on these. For healing purposes, one should probably focus on organic foods, and also in many cases eating things raw is more helpful (although in some cases cooking, steaming, or fermenting may produce better results) Marc |
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Hi Katrina,
Do you already know about the Electrosensitivity webpage and group in the UK? See www.electrosensitivity.org.uk <http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk/> . This is a registered charity and circulates a regular newsletter. Members are beginning to get some attention from the media (a couple of recent radio interviews). A recent experiment has been a couple of people who have rented a cottage in a remote part of Wales with no mobile phone reception, and a number of us met there over the last couple of days - it was good to meet other people who suffer from or are interested in both ES and MCS. The "psychiatric attitude" was one of the things which came up in discussion, not surprisingly! Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Katrina Katrina Sent: 22 January 2006 18:52 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Other Lists or Activist Groups? Hi, Marc said I can ask a question here...I am looking for other ESens lists or groups, (or any in the UK.) ? Specifically, for an alert to an action at a UK college lecture by Psychiatrist Simon Wessely, whose psych oriented "research" is being seen as increasingly more definitive in the WHO's statements on EMFs. (In addition to his Psych influence regarding ME/CFS/MCS/GWS/Chemicals, and WMDs.) And growing number of Clinics to administer Cognitive Behavioral Therapy ("stop *thinking* you are ill") for all of the above. He also has alot of influence with the US Govt. I can post about SW and the Lecture/Action if you want. An SW paper is in the archives here. Thank you for directing me to the groups, Katrina __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness&w1=Health+and+welln ess&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+prom otion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+welln ess&c=6&s=187&.sig=lYI8B8UF6O4ROok_KpWbMQ> and wellness Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+wellness+product&w1=Health+and+w ellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health+ promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+w ellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=7FG7KpKu_ab8sI-sfGXbBw> wellness product Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness+program&w1=Health+a nd+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Hea lth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+heal th+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=SdRoxwZKC3KlEgk4EdZDpQ> and wellness program Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+promotion+and+wellness&w1=Health +and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=H ealth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+he alth+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=2N5rUTc4fwFZmwqyTa-mLw> promotion and wellness Health <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w1=Health +and+wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=H ealth+promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+he alth+wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=TWFLmBa9J_P4FmW0xiOmnw> and wellness promotion Business <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Business+health+wellness&w1=Health+and+ wellness&w2=Health+wellness+product&w3=Health+and+wellness+program&w4=Health +promotion+and+wellness&w5=Health+and+wellness+promotion&w6=Business+health+ wellness&c=6&s=187&.sig=cq8JlfksEGFMRzKQ0DoSOA> health wellness _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "eSens <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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There has been quite a lot said over this side of the pond about the
possibility of the EU requiring "natural" remedies and supplements to go through clinical trials for effectiveness and side-effects, just like pharmaceutical drugs. Obviously this would increase their cost substantially and some items might be lost from the market. However it is controversial and there are strong lobbies on both sides, so nothing has happened as yet. Ian _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc Martin Sent: 23 January 2006 19:30 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [eSens] Supplements > Interestingly, I have heard that the WHO has a program they are hoping > to push thru (heard it was going to come down the pike in 2007) whereby > they are going to ban OTC sales of nutritional supplements worldwide. Apparently there has been groups trying to ban supplements for decades, but they have not been very successful -- at least where I live. On one list I subscribe to, someone was trying to convince us all that all supplements would dissappear off the shelves in August 2005. Well, August 2005 came and went, and nothing happened... If one is very concerned about supplements going away, then I suppose one should focus on trying out various foods for healing. It seems much less likely that there will be a ban on these. For healing purposes, one should probably focus on organic foods, and also in many cases eating things raw is more helpful (although in some cases cooking, steaming, or fermenting may produce better results) Marc _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "eSens <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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