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What product/brands would you recommend, Lizzie?
--- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@...> wrote: > > I've actually felt a benefit from drenatrophin when I'm not feeling incredibly stressed. I think there is a benefit to both cortex and this product, I just wish they used non US cattle. > I agree about the dependency. As soon as I start feeling aggressive I back off of adrenal glandulars-it means to me that my adrenals are ready to do their job (at least for a while). > Steve > > --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@> wrote: > > > > On April 28, Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote: > > > Decoy? I've yet to see anyone benefit from this theory, or > > > from taking adrenal supplements that did not contain the actual > > > cortex, and the adequate amts of cortex. > > > > On the other hand, supplementing with cortex long-term is > > just going to encourage your own adrenal glands to become > > lazy (negative feedback), making you dependent on them... > > > > And if you haven't seen anyone benefit from PMG products, > > maybe that's because you're not a doctor... :-) > > > > Marc > > > |
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I bought my nascent iodine some time ago but had to hold off on using is because I was introducing other stuff and I need to go low and slow to avoid too strong a detox reaction - Lizzie can you remind me what the dosage protocol is for this?? After reading those papers of Tim's I can't wait to start! Thanks Steph x ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2013, 2:22 Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, was Nutritional Balancing What makes nascent better, in my opinion, is this:the thyroid does not have to "do" any extra work to use it/metabolize it.The other types of Iodine, the thyroid has to do extra work. When the thyroid is already low and struggling, this puts an additional stresson this very vital gland. Blessings, Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:59:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, was Nutritional Balancing Hi Laurie, I'm no expert on iodine by any means. :-) I'm just relaying my experiences, and others may chime in here... The main difference is that nascent is a pure atomic form, single iodine molecules with no salt attached (not easy to do and carries an energy charge). Lugol's is a solution of I2 (iodine bonded to another iodine molecule) and iodine stabilized by a salt, i.e. potassium iodide. The advantage of single iodine molecuels is that they are ready to go, quickly utilized and you generally don't need as much to be effective, reducing the chance of toxicity. Here's a good summary of iodine and some studies done: http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html Here's a good summary of the benefits and comparison of different forms of iodine. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_iodine01.htm Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing Hi Tim, Could you tell me what the difference is between Lugol's and nascent iodine? I use Lugol's. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:25:19 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing I'll throw my two cents in too... :-) I had uncontrollable candida problems when I was working around a lot of PCs, working right under a cell tower on the roof of our building too, and was around wifi all the time. Once I got away from all the RF, things improved somewhat, but it wasn't until I started taking nascent iodine that my dysbiosis got under control, and it was amazingly quick too! I tried all kinds of things, rotated and alternated anything antifungal that was recommended. I tried all kinds of probiotics as well. I found that Syntol AMD helped the greatest. It's got acid resistant flora plus strong enzymes. The results were symptomatic at best though, only worked as long as I was taking it, and it's expensive. It was all the RF that caused the imbalance I think... That's what worked for me... I'm with Lizzie... Gotta get the dysbiosis under control, and good flora is essential! Tim ________________________________ From: torch369 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:52 AM Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing I'm not using the mercola probiotic because it has fos in it which I react to. fos is also a sugar derivative. I am currently taking Candex for possible candida Steve --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote: > > And have you done candida treatments?Gut flora should be 80% good, 20% bad. And most everyone, and I mean that literally,has candida, which is actually fungal based, and isthe same as parasites. This treatment has to be done effectively, which meansusing high potencty antif fungals and probiotics. the anti fungals have to be alternated, using 2 to 3 diff't ones,and the cycle is 3 weeks on, one week off, for 3 mths....6 days on, 7th day off.... the reason being is that you have to kill the adults and the baby's...and much like a flea treatment or lice,there is a life cycle here. You can do one short treatment...and completely miss incoming generations.This is why most store bought candida treatments do not work. they aren't using potent anti fungals, not rotating them, and the scheduling isnot effective. And you have to "replace" constantly the bad guys being killed off, the bad flora,with potent probiotics, and the probiotics have to , HAVE to be able to survive inan acidic environment...which is what makes mercola's one of the best..... I used the essential oil blend "Melrose" from www.youngliving.comthis is a blend of tea trees and other oils, they are organic and hexane free...and the plants are properly harvested for high potency. I rotated using the Melrose, pure Oregano essential oil (north america makes a goood one)kyolic garlic oil, and I think grapeseed extract, and Myrrh essential oil, which is also veryhigh anti fungal. I used a similar protocal to the one below....using 3 diff't anti fungals for 3 days...FOUR times a day. then switching. So I think I used 7 diff't ones, including Pao D'Arco...but Pao has to be USED with herb mate tea! (this activates it)YOu can buy the raw tea bark for Pao and boil it, or buy it prepared. I had a schedule on my refrig, to help me DO this complicated treatment...and I did it on the above note sched, 6 days on, 1 day off, 3 weeks, then take a break...then go back on it. Very successful, but it does take committment.And one has to be very careful with not using crap ingredients....makes no sense to try to heal the body by adding in "more" toxic stuff. www.brainchildnutritionals.com/res/natural-candida-programCachedCandida is extremely adaptable. This means that it develops a resistance to almost anything it comes into contact with, by means of a mutation process called pleomorphism. The basic approach of this program is to use a single natural antifungal at a time, for just four days, then switch to another one, for the next four days, and so on, for a period of six weeks to six months, or longer if needed. The rotation of different natural formulas is designed to keep the candida "off balance" and not give it time to build up a resistance to any one of them. During the program, you will also use probiotics every day to help build good flora, enzymes to weaken the candida cell walls, and Cell Food to oxygenate the gut cells and support pH levels. > LizzieTo: [hidden email] > From: torch369@... > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:44:13 +0000 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been taking probiotics for years. Right now I'm taking Megaflora for Kids. For some reason it works better for me than the adult formula. > > Steve > > > > --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote: > > > > > > Just a note: thyroid has a lot to do with digestion.also...probiotics are a vital necessity with any good protocol.I take Mercola's probiotics and have taken them for years. 7 years ago, the list of foods I couldn't eat was way longer thenthe foods I could eat. Thyroid/adrenal and probiotics were the very first things I started.thyroid = metabolism. adrenals? all allergies will be traced to adrenals. Now there are still things I don't eat today, but those are any ingredientthat tends to be moldy or gluten, like: wheat/ corn/mushrooms, regular dairy. Lizzie > > > To: [hidden email] > > > From: torch369@ > > > Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:46:34 +0000 > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think I'd be able to do it but have a sensitive gut so I'll take them with food, either both with breakfast or adrenal cortex with breakfast and thyroid with lunch > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I've been taking both the thyroid and adrenal cortex first thing in the morning, then waiting a while to eat. I had been taking them with meals, but I get more benefit separately from meals. These glands work together, so if you have both adrenal and thyroid depletion, try taking the glandulars together. Of course, your own intuition is the best guide, so do what feels best, and experiment if needed. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are sensitive to stimulants like caffeine, chocolate, etc like me, then taking thyroid at bedtime might be a problem. I've heard folks who can do so, but not me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: torch369 <torch369@> > > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:00 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Interesting. I've always read on the bottle to take it during the day and not after 3PM. I may have to try it during the day first to see if it's stimulating. > > > > > > > Maybe take adrenal cortex with breakfast and the thyroid with lunch. If it doesn't give me a rush I can then try it at bedtime. > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, great info, thank you. > > > > > > > > I'm surprised that taking thyroid at night wouldn't keep people awake since those with low thyroid tend to be tired and taking thyroid gives them energy. > > > > > > > > I will try it this way and see what happens.I will report back. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tried that, made me feel weird. > > > > > > > > > I'm currently usinf SP Drenatrophin, plus Nutrimed Adrenal cortex when I feel really bad. I find glandulars work better for me than herbs > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my roommate just started taking > > > > > > > > > > Adrenal Health from Gaia, which > > > > > > > > > > is a blend of herbs. > > > > > > > > > > she is totally sold on it for herself > > > > > > > > > > and her boyfriend. > > > > > > > > > > i also got a sample and am trying it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 23, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Marc Martin <marc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adrenal Cortex, from Allergy Research > > > > > > > > > > > Dessicated Adreanal from Nutri-Meds > > > > > > > > > > > Adrenal Desiccated from Standard Process > > > > > > > > > > > (plus others from Standard Process - Drenamin, Drenatrophin PMG) > > > > > > > > > > > Iso-Cort > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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I have tried several adrenal type supplements and they just made me worse. Last one was Adren-All w extract.
Wonder if anyone try the Osumex Adrenal test. It is just confusing me. Also was put on cytomel but cause racing heart so that was stopped (also told low in iodine that time but it caused a rash). Then next Dr said high RT# (R was for reverse ) but they wouldnt get back to me. So next Dr said didnt believe in RT3, and said try.... Being on SCD ( www.breakingtheviscouscycle.info ) helped alot, healing digestion. --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@...> wrote: > > Actually I felt more aggressive after the Nutramed. I just don't think i needed it as much at the time. I've been back on it for a few days and feel better with it. > Steve > > --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote: > > > > As for the standard process drenatrophin, 60 mg bovine and it does "not" specify that this IS cortex. It only says: bovine "extract' and they use the word: propietary blend.These are red flags for me...if it doesn't specifically say: "adrenal cortex", then usually, its not. Each tablet supplies approximately: 60 mg bovine adrenal PMG extract. > > > > Hmm..thorn has hypromellose. (which is a petroleum based polymer, think plastic) > > and you're right, only 50 mg of cortex and its not from grass fed, so this means: anti biotics/steroids and hormones ANDyou have to take into account what the bovine sources are fed, usually gmo corn is in their feed. > > Hypromellose is a highly viscous, sometimes flammable polymer. Used as a thickener in medicines, hypromellose is also used in food... > > > > First, I look for the "cortex" in the product. and where its sourced from.I take two of the Adrenal Cortex and the thyroid. Two means 200 mg.... I look for grass fed, so I'm not adding other toxins to the body. So my feeling is, neither one of those adrenal products would pass "code" with me, so to speak. the description of feeling more "aggressive" may have been due to the "steroids" that are used, in the mainstream sources.Like with weight lifters who take steroids and become overly aggressive. LizzieTo: [hidden email] > > From: torch369@ > > Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:26:03 +0000 > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > It was standard process drenatrophin, also tried thorne adrenal cortex but it's only 50 mg. I'm back on the nutrameds. I had stopped taking it because it made me aggressive, which is a sign to me that I don't need as much anymore so I switched to the others. > > > > I was feeling stressed so I'm back on the nutramed and feel much more stable. If I start feeling aggressive again I will cut back to the weaker thorne brand. > > > > I'm going to stop taking standard process because they only get glandulars from U.S. cattle and they don't source organic cattle. > > > > Steve |
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Hi Steph,
I'll let Lizzie speak for herself... :-) But I do want to say again that my good results have come from also living rurally and avoiding RF at all costs. I started with one drop daily and found that was too much, got detox reactions. After a few days of 1/2 a drop I started 1 drop daily. I've slowly built up to 3-4 drops daily over a period of months, still low doses compared to other preparations, about 1.6mg of iodine daily for me. I started with the Magnetic Clay brand, 2%, but I recently got a sample of the 2% MagNascent brand, and I will probably try that next. I did notice a very different taste to each, so jury is out for me until I compare efficacy. Gotta offer this warning to anyone who tries nascent iodine... Seems the combination of alcohol and nascent iodine begins to corrode the rubber seals at the top of the bottle over time, especially if you don't keep the bottle upright and away from the seal. It literally melts the rubber. I've seen several bottles have this happen, and you don't want rubber particles in an expensive tincture of iodine. It can't be good to ingest the rubber, eh? Keeping the bottle upright seems to do the trick, just be cautious. Let us know how it goes for you... Tim ________________________________ From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, - dosage Hi everyone I bought my nascent iodine some time ago but had to hold off on using is because I was introducing other stuff and I need to go low and slow to avoid too strong a detox reaction - Lizzie can you remind me what the dosage protocol is for this?? After reading those papers of Tim's I can't wait to start! Thanks Steph x ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2013, 2:22 Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, was Nutritional Balancing What makes nascent better, in my opinion, is this:the thyroid does not have to "do" any extra work to use it/metabolize it.The other types of Iodine, the thyroid has to do extra work. When the thyroid is already low and struggling, this puts an additional stresson this very vital gland. Blessings, Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:59:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, was Nutritional Balancing Hi Laurie, I'm no expert on iodine by any means. :-) I'm just relaying my experiences, and others may chime in here... The main difference is that nascent is a pure atomic form, single iodine molecules with no salt attached (not easy to do and carries an energy charge). Lugol's is a solution of I2 (iodine bonded to another iodine molecule) and iodine stabilized by a salt, i.e. potassium iodide. The advantage of single iodine molecuels is that they are ready to go, quickly utilized and you generally don't need as much to be effective, reducing the chance of toxicity. Here's a good summary of iodine and some studies done: http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html Here's a good summary of the benefits and comparison of different forms of iodine. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_iodine01.htm Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing Hi Tim, Could you tell me what the difference is between Lugol's and nascent iodine? I use Lugol's. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:25:19 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing I'll throw my two cents in too... :-) I had uncontrollable candida problems when I was working around a lot of PCs, working right under a cell tower on the roof of our building too, and was around wifi all the time. Once I got away from all the RF, things improved somewhat, but it wasn't until I started taking nascent iodine that my dysbiosis got under control, and it was amazingly quick too! I tried all kinds of things, rotated and alternated anything antifungal that was recommended. I tried all kinds of probiotics as well. I found that Syntol AMD helped the greatest. It's got acid resistant flora plus strong enzymes. The results were symptomatic at best though, only worked as long as I was taking it, and it's expensive. It was all the RF that caused the imbalance I think... That's what worked for me... I'm with Lizzie... Gotta get the dysbiosis under control, and good flora is essential! Tim ________________________________ From: torch369 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:52 AM Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing I'm not using the mercola probiotic because it has fos in it which I react to. fos is also a sugar derivative. I am currently taking Candex for possible candida Steve --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote: > > And have you done candida treatments?Gut flora should be 80% good, 20% bad. And most everyone, and I mean that literally,has candida, which is actually fungal based, and isthe same as parasites. This treatment has to be done effectively, which meansusing high potencty antif fungals and probiotics. the anti fungals have to be alternated, using 2 to 3 diff't ones,and the cycle is 3 weeks on, one week off, for 3 mths....6 days on, 7th day off.... the reason being is that you have to kill the adults and the baby's...and much like a flea treatment or lice,there is a life cycle here. You can do one short treatment...and completely miss incoming generations.This is why most store bought candida treatments do not work. they aren't using potent anti fungals, not rotating them, and the scheduling isnot effective. And you have to "replace" constantly the bad guys being killed off, the bad flora,with potent probiotics, and the probiotics have to , HAVE to be able to survive inan acidic environment...which is what makes mercola's one of the best..... I used the essential oil blend "Melrose" from www.youngliving.comthis is a blend of tea trees and other oils, they are organic and hexane free...and the plants are properly harvested for high potency. I rotated using the Melrose, pure Oregano essential oil (north america makes a goood one)kyolic garlic oil, and I think grapeseed extract, and Myrrh essential oil, which is also veryhigh anti fungal. I used a similar protocal to the one below....using 3 diff't anti fungals for 3 days...FOUR times a day. then switching. So I think I used 7 diff't ones, including Pao D'Arco...but Pao has to be USED with herb mate tea! (this activates it)YOu can buy the raw tea bark for Pao and boil it, or buy it prepared. I had a schedule on my refrig, to help me DO this complicated treatment...and I did it on the above note sched, 6 days on, 1 day off, 3 weeks, then take a break...then go back on it. Very successful, but it does take committment.And one has to be very careful with not using crap ingredients....makes no sense to try to heal the body by adding in "more" toxic stuff. www.brainchildnutritionals.com/res/natural-candida-programCachedCandida is extremely adaptable. This means that it develops a resistance to almost anything it comes into contact with, by means of a mutation process called pleomorphism. The basic approach of this program is to use a single natural antifungal at a time, for just four days, then switch to another one, for the next four days, and so on, for a period of six weeks to six months, or longer if needed. The rotation of different natural formulas is designed to keep the candida "off balance" and not give it time to build up a resistance to any one of them. During the program, you will also use probiotics every day to help build good flora, enzymes to weaken the candida cell walls, and Cell Food to oxygenate the gut cells and support pH levels. > LizzieTo: [hidden email] > From: torch369@... > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:44:13 +0000 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been taking probiotics for years. Right now I'm taking Megaflora for Kids. For some reason it works better for me than the adult formula. > > Steve > > > > --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote: > > > > > > Just a note: thyroid has a lot to do with digestion.also...probiotics are a vital necessity with any good protocol.I take Mercola's probiotics and have taken them for years. 7 years ago, the list of foods I couldn't eat was way longer thenthe foods I could eat. Thyroid/adrenal and probiotics were the very first things I started.thyroid = metabolism. adrenals? all allergies will be traced to adrenals. Now there are still things I don't eat today, but those are any ingredientthat tends to be moldy or gluten, like: wheat/ corn/mushrooms, regular dairy. Lizzie > > > To: [hidden email] > > > From: torch369@ > > > Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:46:34 +0000 > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think I'd be able to do it but have a sensitive gut so I'll take them with food, either both with breakfast or adrenal cortex with breakfast and thyroid with lunch > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I've been taking both the thyroid and adrenal cortex first thing in the morning, then waiting a while to eat. I had been taking them with meals, but I get more benefit separately from meals. These glands work together, so if you have both adrenal and thyroid depletion, try taking the glandulars together. Of course, your own intuition is the best guide, so do what feels best, and experiment if needed. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are sensitive to stimulants like caffeine, chocolate, etc like me, then taking thyroid at bedtime might be a problem. I've heard folks who can do so, but not me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: torch369 <torch369@> > > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:00 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Interesting. I've always read on the bottle to take it during the day and not after 3PM. I may have to try it during the day first to see if it's stimulating. > > > > > > > Maybe take adrenal cortex with breakfast and the thyroid with lunch. If it doesn't give me a rush I can then try it at bedtime. > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, great info, thank you. > > > > > > > > I'm surprised that taking thyroid at night wouldn't keep people awake since those with low thyroid tend to be tired and taking thyroid gives them energy. > > > > > > > > I will try it this way and see what happens.I will report back. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tried that, made me feel weird. > > > > > > > > > I'm currently usinf SP Drenatrophin, plus Nutrimed Adrenal cortex when I feel really bad. I find glandulars work better for me than herbs > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my roommate just started taking > > > > > > > > > > Adrenal Health from Gaia, which > > > > > > > > > > is a blend of herbs. > > > > > > > > > > she is totally sold on it for herself > > > > > > > > > > and her boyfriend. > > > > > > > > > > i also got a sample and am trying it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 23, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Marc Martin <marc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adrenal Cortex, from Allergy Research > > > > > > > > > > > Dessicated Adreanal from Nutri-Meds > > > > > > > > > > > Adrenal Desiccated from Standard Process > > > > > > > > > > > (plus others from Standard Process - Drenamin, Drenatrophin PMG) > > > > > > > > > > > Iso-Cort > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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Here is my disclaimer: No, I am not a medical doctor. I am an intuitive natural healer.What follows is my opinion. Here is my suggestion for taking liquid Iodine. I always suggest to start with "low" doses. One drop in 3 0z of water...try this once a day. Works best on empty stomach, but it will also work after you eat. Wait a half hour though.If all goes well, do this one drp two times a day, morning/aft. Those who are really really sensitive to supplements??there is another way to use the Iodine: put one drop IN your belly button.Try it this way diluted in one teaspoon of water.... I found this works quite well for friends, who had to cut tablets in half,only take a half capsule of something...their digestive system is ultra sensitive,and this really just means the metabolism is way out of whack. (thyroid plus candida) The goal is to gradually up/increase the dose....slowly....increase the dose from 1 to 2, 2 to 3, ectevery 4-5 days, IF your body is handling this well. For those who get a severe head ache, this is most likely the Iodine killing off candida/parasites.Iodine is: anti fungal, anti parasitic, anti bacterial, anti microbial. What it is most likely "not" is an allergy to Iodine, which is a common misperception.Those who react to shellfish? For example, believe they are allergic to Iodine. But shellfish tend to be: highly contaminated...with mercury, with pcb's, with other heavy metals and chemicals..think of the BP disaster in the gulf, the fukushima disaster that has spread radiation into the oceans...these are just a few examples...there are many more. Iodine is also vitally required for health.There are Iodine receptor cells all over the body. You can also rub a drop or two, or dilute two drops in a Tablespoon of water, and rub thison the bottom of your foot. Lizzie
To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:00:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, - dosage Hi Steph, I'll let Lizzie speak for herself... :-) But I do want to say again that my good results have come from also living rurally and avoiding RF at all costs. I started with one drop daily and found that was too much, got detox reactions. After a few days of 1/2 a drop I started 1 drop daily. I've slowly built up to 3-4 drops daily over a period of months, still low doses compared to other preparations, about 1.6mg of iodine daily for me. I started with the Magnetic Clay brand, 2%, but I recently got a sample of the 2% MagNascent brand, and I will probably try that next. I did notice a very different taste to each, so jury is out for me until I compare efficacy. Gotta offer this warning to anyone who tries nascent iodine... Seems the combination of alcohol and nascent iodine begins to corrode the rubber seals at the top of the bottle over time, especially if you don't keep the bottle upright and away from the seal. It literally melts the rubber. I've seen several bottles have this happen, and you don't want rubber particles in an expensive tincture of iodine. It can't be good to ingest the rubber, eh? Keeping the bottle upright seems to do the trick, just be cautious. Let us know how it goes for you... Tim ________________________________ From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, - dosage Hi everyone I bought my nascent iodine some time ago but had to hold off on using is because I was introducing other stuff and I need to go low and slow to avoid too strong a detox reaction - Lizzie can you remind me what the dosage protocol is for this?? After reading those papers of Tim's I can't wait to start! Thanks Steph x ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2013, 2:22 Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, was Nutritional Balancing What makes nascent better, in my opinion, is this:the thyroid does not have to "do" any extra work to use it/metabolize it.The other types of Iodine, the thyroid has to do extra work. When the thyroid is already low and struggling, this puts an additional stresson this very vital gland. Blessings, Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:59:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, was Nutritional Balancing Hi Laurie, I'm no expert on iodine by any means. :-) I'm just relaying my experiences, and others may chime in here... The main difference is that nascent is a pure atomic form, single iodine molecules with no salt attached (not easy to do and carries an energy charge). Lugol's is a solution of I2 (iodine bonded to another iodine molecule) and iodine stabilized by a salt, i.e. potassium iodide. The advantage of single iodine molecuels is that they are ready to go, quickly utilized and you generally don't need as much to be effective, reducing the chance of toxicity. Here's a good summary of iodine and some studies done: http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html Here's a good summary of the benefits and comparison of different forms of iodine. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_iodine01.htm Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing Hi Tim, Could you tell me what the difference is between Lugol's and nascent iodine? I use Lugol's. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:25:19 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing I'll throw my two cents in too... :-) I had uncontrollable candida problems when I was working around a lot of PCs, working right under a cell tower on the roof of our building too, and was around wifi all the time. Once I got away from all the RF, things improved somewhat, but it wasn't until I started taking nascent iodine that my dysbiosis got under control, and it was amazingly quick too! I tried all kinds of things, rotated and alternated anything antifungal that was recommended. I tried all kinds of probiotics as well. I found that Syntol AMD helped the greatest. It's got acid resistant flora plus strong enzymes. The results were symptomatic at best though, only worked as long as I was taking it, and it's expensive. It was all the RF that caused the imbalance I think... That's what worked for me... I'm with Lizzie... Gotta get the dysbiosis under control, and good flora is essential! Tim ________________________________ From: torch369 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:52 AM Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing I'm not using the mercola probiotic because it has fos in it which I react to. fos is also a sugar derivative. I am currently taking Candex for possible candida Steve --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote: > > And have you done candida treatments?Gut flora should be 80% good, 20% bad. And most everyone, and I mean that literally,has candida, which is actually fungal based, and isthe same as parasites. This treatment has to be done effectively, which meansusing high potencty antif fungals and probiotics. the anti fungals have to be alternated, using 2 to 3 diff't ones,and the cycle is 3 weeks on, one week off, for 3 mths....6 days on, 7th day off.... the reason being is that you have to kill the adults and the baby's...and much like a flea treatment or lice,there is a life cycle here. You can do one short treatment...and completely miss incoming generations.This is why most store bought candida treatments do not work. they aren't using potent anti fungals, not rotating them, and the scheduling isnot effective. And you have to "replace" constantly the bad guys being killed off, the bad flora,with potent probiotics, and the probiotics have to , HAVE to be able to survive inan acidic environment...which is what makes mercola's one of the best..... I used the essential oil blend "Melrose" from www.youngliving.comthis is a blend of tea trees and other oils, they are organic and hexane free...and the plants are properly harvested for high potency. I rotated using the Melrose, pure Oregano essential oil (north america makes a goood one)kyolic garlic oil, and I think grapeseed extract, and Myrrh essential oil, which is also veryhigh anti fungal. I used a similar protocal to the one below....using 3 diff't anti fungals for 3 days...FOUR times a day. then switching. So I think I used 7 diff't ones, including Pao D'Arco...but Pao has to be USED with herb mate tea! (this activates it)YOu can buy the raw tea bark for Pao and boil it, or buy it prepared. I had a schedule on my refrig, to help me DO this complicated treatment...and I did it on the above note sched, 6 days on, 1 day off, 3 weeks, then take a break...then go back on it. Very successful, but it does take committment.And one has to be very careful with not using crap ingredients....makes no sense to try to heal the body by adding in "more" toxic stuff. www.brainchildnutritionals.com/res/natural-candida-programCachedCandida is extremely adaptable. This means that it develops a resistance to almost anything it comes into contact with, by means of a mutation process called pleomorphism. The basic approach of this program is to use a single natural antifungal at a time, for just four days, then switch to another one, for the next four days, and so on, for a period of six weeks to six months, or longer if needed. The rotation of different natural formulas is designed to keep the candida "off balance" and not give it time to build up a resistance to any one of them. During the program, you will also use probiotics every day to help build good flora, enzymes to weaken the candida cell walls, and Cell Food to oxygenate the gut cells and support pH levels. > LizzieTo: [hidden email] > From: torch369@... > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:44:13 +0000 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been taking probiotics for years. Right now I'm taking Megaflora for Kids. For some reason it works better for me than the adult formula. > > Steve > > > > --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote: > > > > > > Just a note: thyroid has a lot to do with digestion.also...probiotics are a vital necessity with any good protocol.I take Mercola's probiotics and have taken them for years. 7 years ago, the list of foods I couldn't eat was way longer thenthe foods I could eat. Thyroid/adrenal and probiotics were the very first things I started.thyroid = metabolism. adrenals? all allergies will be traced to adrenals. Now there are still things I don't eat today, but those are any ingredientthat tends to be moldy or gluten, like: wheat/ corn/mushrooms, regular dairy. Lizzie > > > To: [hidden email] > > > From: torch369@ > > > Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:46:34 +0000 > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think I'd be able to do it but have a sensitive gut so I'll take them with food, either both with breakfast or adrenal cortex with breakfast and thyroid with lunch > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I've been taking both the thyroid and adrenal cortex first thing in the morning, then waiting a while to eat. I had been taking them with meals, but I get more benefit separately from meals. These glands work together, so if you have both adrenal and thyroid depletion, try taking the glandulars together. Of course, your own intuition is the best guide, so do what feels best, and experiment if needed. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are sensitive to stimulants like caffeine, chocolate, etc like me, then taking thyroid at bedtime might be a problem. I've heard folks who can do so, but not me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: torch369 <torch369@> > > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:00 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Interesting. I've always read on the bottle to take it during the day and not after 3PM. I may have to try it during the day first to see if it's stimulating. > > > > > > > Maybe take adrenal cortex with breakfast and the thyroid with lunch. If it doesn't give me a rush I can then try it at bedtime. > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, great info, thank you. > > > > > > > > I'm surprised that taking thyroid at night wouldn't keep people awake since those with low thyroid tend to be tired and taking thyroid gives them energy. > > > > > > > > I will try it this way and see what happens.I will report back. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tried that, made me feel weird. > > > > > > > > > I'm currently usinf SP Drenatrophin, plus Nutrimed Adrenal cortex when I feel really bad. 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THanks Tim - I will be starting as low as I can because i seem to be very sensitive to everything - I'll wait until I have the weekend to start since if things go pear shaped at least I can just go to bed and sleep it off rather than have to try to function. I'll give 1 drop a go and hope all goes well - my bottle is upright in the medicine cabinet so the seal should be ok but thanks for the tip.
I'll post back with what happens Thanks Steph ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, 29 April 2013, 20:00 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, - dosage Hi Steph, I'll let Lizzie speak for herself... :-) But I do want to say again that my good results have come from also living rurally and avoiding RF at all costs. I started with one drop daily and found that was too much, got detox reactions. After a few days of 1/2 a drop I started 1 drop daily. I've slowly built up to 3-4 drops daily over a period of months, still low doses compared to other preparations, about 1.6mg of iodine daily for me. I started with the Magnetic Clay brand, 2%, but I recently got a sample of the 2% MagNascent brand, and I will probably try that next. I did notice a very different taste to each, so jury is out for me until I compare efficacy. Gotta offer this warning to anyone who tries nascent iodine... Seems the combination of alcohol and nascent iodine begins to corrode the rubber seals at the top of the bottle over time, especially if you don't keep the bottle upright and away from the seal. It literally melts the rubber. I've seen several bottles have this happen, and you don't want rubber particles in an expensive tincture of iodine. It can't be good to ingest the rubber, eh? Keeping the bottle upright seems to do the trick, just be cautious. Let us know how it goes for you... Tim ________________________________ From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, - dosage Hi everyone I bought my nascent iodine some time ago but had to hold off on using is because I was introducing other stuff and I need to go low and slow to avoid too strong a detox reaction - Lizzie can you remind me what the dosage protocol is for this?? After reading those papers of Tim's I can't wait to start! Thanks Steph x ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, 28 April 2013, 2:22 Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, was Nutritional Balancing What makes nascent better, in my opinion, is this:the thyroid does not have to "do" any extra work to use it/metabolize it.The other types of Iodine, the thyroid has to do extra work. When the thyroid is already low and struggling, this puts an additional stresson this very vital gland. Blessings, Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:59:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nascent Iodine, was Nutritional Balancing Hi Laurie, I'm no expert on iodine by any means. :-) I'm just relaying my experiences, and others may chime in here... The main difference is that nascent is a pure atomic form, single iodine molecules with no salt attached (not easy to do and carries an energy charge). Lugol's is a solution of I2 (iodine bonded to another iodine molecule) and iodine stabilized by a salt, i.e. potassium iodide. The advantage of single iodine molecuels is that they are ready to go, quickly utilized and you generally don't need as much to be effective, reducing the chance of toxicity. Here's a good summary of iodine and some studies done: http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller20.html Here's a good summary of the benefits and comparison of different forms of iodine. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_iodine01.htm Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing Hi Tim, Could you tell me what the difference is between Lugol's and nascent iodine? I use Lugol's. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:25:19 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing I'll throw my two cents in too... :-) I had uncontrollable candida problems when I was working around a lot of PCs, working right under a cell tower on the roof of our building too, and was around wifi all the time. Once I got away from all the RF, things improved somewhat, but it wasn't until I started taking nascent iodine that my dysbiosis got under control, and it was amazingly quick too! I tried all kinds of things, rotated and alternated anything antifungal that was recommended. I tried all kinds of probiotics as well. I found that Syntol AMD helped the greatest. It's got acid resistant flora plus strong enzymes. The results were symptomatic at best though, only worked as long as I was taking it, and it's expensive. It was all the RF that caused the imbalance I think... That's what worked for me... I'm with Lizzie... Gotta get the dysbiosis under control, and good flora is essential! Tim ________________________________ From: torch369 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:52 AM Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing I'm not using the mercola probiotic because it has fos in it which I react to. fos is also a sugar derivative. I am currently taking Candex for possible candida Steve --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote: > > And have you done candida treatments?Gut flora should be 80% good, 20% bad. And most everyone, and I mean that literally,has candida, which is actually fungal based, and isthe same as parasites. This treatment has to be done effectively, which meansusing high potencty antif fungals and probiotics. the anti fungals have to be alternated, using 2 to 3 diff't ones,and the cycle is 3 weeks on, one week off, for 3 mths....6 days on, 7th day off.... the reason being is that you have to kill the adults and the baby's...and much like a flea treatment or lice,there is a life cycle here. You can do one short treatment...and completely miss incoming generations.This is why most store bought candida treatments do not work. they aren't using potent anti fungals, not rotating them, and the scheduling isnot effective. And you have to "replace" constantly the bad guys being killed off, the bad flora,with potent probiotics, and the probiotics have to , HAVE to be able to survive inan acidic environment...which is what makes mercola's one of the best..... I used the essential oil blend "Melrose" from www.youngliving.comthis is a blend of tea trees and other oils, they are organic and hexane free...and the plants are properly harvested for high potency. I rotated using the Melrose, pure Oregano essential oil (north america makes a goood one)kyolic garlic oil, and I think grapeseed extract, and Myrrh essential oil, which is also veryhigh anti fungal. I used a similar protocal to the one below....using 3 diff't anti fungals for 3 days...FOUR times a day. then switching. So I think I used 7 diff't ones, including Pao D'Arco...but Pao has to be USED with herb mate tea! (this activates it)YOu can buy the raw tea bark for Pao and boil it, or buy it prepared. I had a schedule on my refrig, to help me DO this complicated treatment...and I did it on the above note sched, 6 days on, 1 day off, 3 weeks, then take a break...then go back on it. Very successful, but it does take committment.And one has to be very careful with not using crap ingredients....makes no sense to try to heal the body by adding in "more" toxic stuff. www.brainchildnutritionals.com/res/natural-candida-programCachedCandida is extremely adaptable. This means that it develops a resistance to almost anything it comes into contact with, by means of a mutation process called pleomorphism. The basic approach of this program is to use a single natural antifungal at a time, for just four days, then switch to another one, for the next four days, and so on, for a period of six weeks to six months, or longer if needed. The rotation of different natural formulas is designed to keep the candida "off balance" and not give it time to build up a resistance to any one of them. During the program, you will also use probiotics every day to help build good flora, enzymes to weaken the candida cell walls, and Cell Food to oxygenate the gut cells and support pH levels. > LizzieTo: [hidden email] > From: torch369@... > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:44:13 +0000 > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been taking probiotics for years. Right now I'm taking Megaflora for Kids. For some reason it works better for me than the adult formula. > > Steve > > > > --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@> wrote: > > > > > > Just a note: thyroid has a lot to do with digestion.also...probiotics are a vital necessity with any good protocol.I take Mercola's probiotics and have taken them for years. 7 years ago, the list of foods I couldn't eat was way longer thenthe foods I could eat. Thyroid/adrenal and probiotics were the very first things I started.thyroid = metabolism. adrenals? all allergies will be traced to adrenals. Now there are still things I don't eat today, but those are any ingredientthat tends to be moldy or gluten, like: wheat/ corn/mushrooms, regular dairy. Lizzie > > > To: [hidden email] > > > From: torch369@ > > > Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:46:34 +0000 > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think I'd be able to do it but have a sensitive gut so I'll take them with food, either both with breakfast or adrenal cortex with breakfast and thyroid with lunch > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I've been taking both the thyroid and adrenal cortex first thing in the morning, then waiting a while to eat. I had been taking them with meals, but I get more benefit separately from meals. These glands work together, so if you have both adrenal and thyroid depletion, try taking the glandulars together. Of course, your own intuition is the best guide, so do what feels best, and experiment if needed. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are sensitive to stimulants like caffeine, chocolate, etc like me, then taking thyroid at bedtime might be a problem. I've heard folks who can do so, but not me... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > From: torch369 <torch369@> > > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:00 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Nutritional Balancing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Interesting. I've always read on the bottle to take it during the day and not after 3PM. I may have to try it during the day first to see if it's stimulating. > > > > > > > Maybe take adrenal cortex with breakfast and the thyroid with lunch. If it doesn't give me a rush I can then try it at bedtime. > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow, great info, thank you. > > > > > > > > I'm surprised that taking thyroid at night wouldn't keep people awake since those with low thyroid tend to be tired and taking thyroid gives them energy. > > > > > > > > I will try it this way and see what happens.I will report back. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tried that, made me feel weird. > > > > > > > > > I'm currently usinf SP Drenatrophin, plus Nutrimed Adrenal cortex when I feel really bad. I find glandulars work better for me than herbs > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett <patricia@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my roommate just started taking > > > > > > > > > > Adrenal Health from Gaia, which > > > > > > > > > > is a blend of herbs. > > > > > > > > > > she is totally sold on it for herself > > > > > > > > > > and her boyfriend. > > > > > > > > > > i also got a sample and am trying it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 23, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Marc Martin <marc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adrenal Cortex, from Allergy Research > > > > > > > > > > > Dessicated Adreanal from Nutri-Meds > > > > > > > > > > > Adrenal Desiccated from Standard Process > > > > > > > > > > > (plus others from Standard Process - Drenamin, Drenatrophin PMG) > > > > > > > > > > > Iso-Cort > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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