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Not SO harmful cellphone/smartphone

rlopes
I need a smartphone with Wifi and 3g that is not THAT harmful. I am only mildly sensitive to EMF. Any recommendations?
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Marc Martin
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Well, I guess some people would say that there is no such thing.

Others would recommend one of the Samsung Galaxy models.

I don't seem to do well with any Samsung Galaxy models, so I use an iPhone 6.  But it's usually off.

Marc

On September 13, rlopes [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I need a smartphone with Wifi and 3g that is not THAT harmful. I am
> only mildly sensitive to EMF. Any recommendations?
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rlopes
I found some lists that order the models by SAR values. However, the FCC clearly states that SAR are just the maximum values and the actual average amount of radiation of a give model will greatly vary. Thus the best thing would be some human opinions.

Here's a list I found:

https://emfadvice.com/sar-ratings-radiation-levels-smartphones/
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Marc Martin
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Yes, a lot of people think SAR values are pretty useless as a measure of electrical sensitivity reactions.  Certainly they were not designed for that.

Marc
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rlopes
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By the way, before learning about EMFs I bought a Huwaei Nova 2i, and I noticed my arms would always get numb and painful when using it. These Chinese phones are EMF monsters.
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UphillBattle
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i have gotten myself a "sonim"
 through verizon, its a smartphone but with buttons, it has wifi 3g and its indistructible, when im in a crunch i use it as an emergency with a long headjack chord,, oh it also has an fm radio wich is nice
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Marc Martin
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Also, modern smart phone support a wide range of frequency bandwidths, and the frequencies your phone uses varies based on your provider (e.g. Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, etc.).  So it's possible that you may find a particular phone tolerable or intolerable merely based on the provider you are using it with.

I looked up my own iPhone 6, and it supports over 20 different frequency bandwidths.

Marc
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UphillBattle
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"rlopes" i used to get the same numb hand feeling from my playstaton bluetuth controller before i realized i was emfs

"marc" do you know if one company is better then the other, or is there an easy way to look up the supported frequency range for each company?

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Marc Martin
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On September 15, UphillBattle [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> "marc" do you know if one company is better then the other, or is there
> an easy way to look up the supported frequency range for each company?

I suspect it depends on the person, and what that person is sensitive to.  There is a general feeling that lower frequencies are better than higher frequencies, but I don't know if that's true or not or how many people that applies to.

But there are pages online that will tell you, based on the phone + carrier combination, which frequencies you'd be using for 3G, 4G, etc.

I have not found an app for my iPhone that tells me what frequency band is in current use, which would be educational.

Marc
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UphillBattle
Thank You Sir!!
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karen
You are setting yourself up for major damage by continuing to use these products under the falsehood that there are less harmful devices. Celltowers alone can do major damage such as break down barriers such as the blood brain barrier which puts one at risk for all manner of mental illness and over time, promoting neurodegeration, horrible neurological conditions such as alzheimer's.

The entire environment is polluted because people choose to use cellphones. This is disabling and killing enough to compare to an insideous genocide, as those most vulnerable are the ones culled. Plants, animals and insects are also being culled. So when you participate in wireless tech, you own your part of this ecocide and genocide.

Do a search on biological effects of celltower radiation and that is what you are voting for when you own a phone. 46 of 48 non-industry funded papers show harm so if what you come across shows no harm, it is likely corrupted science paid for by the industry.

Lets say that there is something with "less" of what is harmful. If that were possible even, the effects are cumulative and since you are actively using it, you will catch up in time to use of "more harmful" sources.

You need to be honest with yourself there is no way around the damage this toxin does to yourself and others, as it is never just a personal choice when it enters the environment by definition.