Newbie With Questions About Dirty Electricity Filters

Hello, my name is Mike.
My family is very health conscious and have always been concerned about EMF exposure, but recently my wife has become electrosensitive. So, we are becoming even more diligent.
I want to install dirty electricity filters in our apartment. Am leaning towards buying the Greenwave filter over the Stetzer filter due to a better price, increased frequency range and the built-in outlet. I see lots of discussion on the Stetzer filter in the archives, but no mention of the Greenwave filter. Does anyone have experience with the Greenwave?
I know that there are home wiring factors to take into consideration when using these filters. Can someone provide a summary or a link on what to check for? I have an electronics/electrical engineering background, so I can delve pretty deeply into the technical aspects.
Thanks!

Hello,

I have looked at the Greenway filter website.
But it lacks technical information, f.i. the frequency range it works on.

Dirty electricity are frequencies in the range of 5kHz up to 30.000kHz or 30MHz.
Stetzer filters do work up to 150-200kHz.
The Stetzer meter also works in this frequency range, so you do not know what is going on above 150kHz.

The meter Greenwave is advising, but does not have at the moment, looks like the meter I also have, the Entech (by Alphalab), which somebody at Esens was so kind to buy it at Ebay for me. This one goes up to 900kHz, and lets you hear (via its loudspeaker) what is going on in your electricity mains net.

(I use the Stetzer as well as the Entech meter, because they do react differently. I also use a spectrumanalyser with differential probe, which can measure from DC up to 30MHZ.)

I do prefer the German Bajog filters, which may filter up to 30MHz.

Overhere in Europe mainland, all filters, also those by Stetzer, do have an outlet, 3-point.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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  Hello, my name is Mike.
  My family is very health conscious and have always been concerned about EMF
  exposure, but recently my wife has become electrosensitive. So, we are
  becoming even more diligent.
  I want to install dirty electricity filters in our apartment. Am leaning
  towards buying the Greenwave filter over the Stetzer filter due to a better
  price, increased frequency range and the built-in outlet. I see lots of
  discussion on the Stetzer filter in the archives, but no mention of the
  Greenwave filter. Does anyone have experience with the Greenwave?
  I know that there are home wiring factors to take into consideration when
  using these filters. Can someone provide a summary or a link on what to
  check for? I have an electronics/electrical engineering background, so I can
  delve pretty deeply into the technical aspects.
  Thanks!



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Thanks for the info, Charles!
I had not heard of the Bajog filter. I looked it up on their website and it looks promising. Unfortunately, they don't seem to have a US version.
I do not have the Stezer meter, but I have an oscilloscope and was planning on doing a somewhat qualitative analysis of the mains power waveform. I wish the scope had a spectrum analyzer built-in, but it does not. I should be able to see the waveform clean up on the scope as I add filters, though.
The Greenwave website say their filters work up to 500kHz.
Even though harmonics can exist in the mains power up to 30MHz, are they of sufficient amplitude to generate a significant enough field to affect our helath?

Does anyone have experience with the Greenwave?

I am using Greenwave filters and they work fine.  I bought a Stetzer meter because Greenwave hadn't finished theirs yet. When I asked the lady at Stetzer questions about usage of their filters, how many would I need, what range is considered dangerous, etc, she told me I would have to look all those things up on the Internet, as she was not allowed to give advice about usage.

I went back to Greenwave and spoke with the very nice man there and he happily answered all my questions, told me how these things work, what I would need for the number of electronics things in my room, how to use the meter, how to check for grounded or non-grounded outlets, (only another $6 item available any hardware), anything and everything I needed to know as I am ignorant about this stuff too.  

This nice fellow said to call back anytime with questions. He said he was friends with Dr. Milham who wrote "Dirty Electricity."  I noticed there is a video on line about usage of the filters... Google dirty electricity. What amazed me is how much of this stuff is getting out.  My gas stove in the kitchen has a digital readout for the clock and timers, etc.  When I leave it plugged in the meter goes nuts.  I moved the stove plug to a short extension and put a Greenwave filter on it and the reading dropped way down. We are living in a soup of free electrons.

Marji      

On January 11, flyfishmike <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I know that there are home wiring factors to take into consideration when
> using these filters. Can someone provide a summary or a link on what to
> check for? I have an electronics/electrical engineering background, so I can
> delve pretty deeply into the technical aspects.

I think the only wiring considerations for the Stetzer filters is that the
outlets are wired correctly, which can be verified by an outlet checker
(a few dollars at your local hardware store)

Marc