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As part of my studies, I am investigating the possibillity of a new product that could elliminate all EMF coming from smartphones. This product consists of a docking station (which can also be used as a alarm clock/speaker). When a smartphone is plugged into the device, all RF radiation from the smartphone is eliminated, while at the same time connectivity is assured. While plugged in, the batteries of the smartphone will be charged as well. To get an idea about the economical feasibility of this project, I need to have a more accurate estimation on how many people (among the ES community) would actually be interested in such a product. For this I need your help! I have a (very) short survey that I would like you to take (it will only take 2 minutes): https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1WUoay4umHc45d2OvTuefkwQlcnTRWLhXHnKh20UD174/viewform?usp=send_form Thanks in advance! Pieter |
The only way to have a smartphone or mobile really *dead* is to take out the battery.
When the battery is still connected, the smartphone keeps contacting the mobile phone base station, in order to check the login's. And of course, to maintain all the apps, etc. One needs special measuring equipment to measure all the different frequencies a smartphone is emitting, not at least the display. All displays do emit frequencies. ![]() Here a heat consumption meter, which is read manually once a year, is shown. The very sensitive Impuls Detector can measure the signals from the display only when the contact sensor is held against the display. The signals are heras very clear. When I hold the meter an inch away, I can not measure the signals anymore. But an electrosensitive persone may exoperience troubles some 3 meters away. |
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The only way to have a smartphone or mobile really *dead* is to take out the battery.
When the battery is still connected, the smartphone keeps contacting the mobile phone base station, in order to check the login's. And of course, to maintain all the apps, etc. One needs special measuring equipment to measure all the different frequencies a smartphone is emitting, not at least the display. All displays do emit frequencies. ![]() Here a heat consumption meter, which is read manually once a year, is shown. The very sensitive Impuls Detector can measure the signals from the display only when the contact sensor is held against the display. The signals are heras very clear. When I hold the meter an inch away, I can not measure the signals anymore. But an electrosensitive persone may experience troubles some 3 meters away. I even do know several electrosensitive persons, who do react to a 9Volt blockbattery. |
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This device would eliminate all High Frequencies (GSM/GPRS), not the Low EMF (like from batteries, as you mentioned). The working of the internal antenna would be disabled and the signal would be guided through another way. The device would keep in contact with the base station through another way.
Like I said, for now, it is still in the development stage and thus no more than a hypothetical device. Nevertheless, it is technically possible and it will work for the frequencies intended. The only thing that we're worried about at this point are the potential development costs ahead of us, while at the same time this product only serves a relatively small and widely scattered niche group... That is why we really need some feedback from people with ES. I very much appreciate the feedback and it would really help if some people filled in the survey :-) https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1WUoay4umHc45d2OvTuefkwQlcnTRWLhXHnKh20UD174/viewform?usp=send_form grtz, Pieter |
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On May 14, "Pieter [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> That is why we really need some feedback from people with ES. I very much > appreciate the feedback and it would really help if some people filled in > the survey :-) I would think that a lot of people with ES do not even own a Smart Phone, because they can't use them comfortably. Marc |
For the record; I don't have ES myself, so the only information I have on people with ES comes from internes sources and the few people with ES I actually know. Some people with ES do seem to own a smartphone, but try to minimize the exposure and turn off the device during nights.
Anyway, that is exactly the reason why I posted the survey. I have no clue to what extent people with ES would actually need and thus potentially buy such a device :-) Thanks for the comments, they're more than welcome! |
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yep.
On May 14, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Marc Martin [via ES] wrote: On May 14, "Pieter [via ES]" <<a href="x-msg://1019/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4027182&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote: |
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I'm glad to hear that someone is interested in creating something with the e.s. market in mind. But if I ever dare get a smartphone, I think I would be more interested in a EMF-shielding device that is mobile - something that you could put on your phone while you use it as most people use their phones (most people don't wait to use their phones until it is plugged into a charger or attached to a docking station - as it sort-of contradicts the major reason for owning a smartphone in the first place). Also - using a phone while it is charging, or while it's sitting on a device that is using A/C power - may ironically expose us to additional bothersome radiation....unless the charging mechanism and the power-utilization of the product uses frequencies that are guaranteed to not be bothersome.
But I would love for another company to sort-of pick up Pong Research's slack and create products that could be used on a wider variety of smartphones. Pong Research seems to only make shielding cases for a very limited number of phones and tablets. Speaking of tablets, I might be more willing to use a tablet with the type of product you describe - but to use a phone that way might be a little too restrictive. But there still could be a lot of value in this product - since there may be some frequencies emitted from these phones even when they are not being actively used, and when they are turned off. You don't want a smartphone "poisoning" up the whole room with these frequencies (which some e.s. people can feel from quite a bit of distance away). Thanks for thinking of us! |
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On May 17, "Svetaswan [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I'm glad to hear that someone is interested in creating something with the > e.s. market in mind. But if I ever dare get a smartphone, I think I would > be more interested in a EMF-shielding device that is mobile - something that > you could put on your phone while you use it as most people use their phones I think that an external antenna would be nice -- right now I just bring a laptop, a long USB cable, and a 3G/4G USB modem to get "smart phone functionality". But if I could connect a smart phone to an external antenna, then maybe that would work too. Although I'd probably still prefer the laptop. :-) Marc |
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