New home in Europe
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Anyone could maybe come up with some idea (s) concerning buying/renting a low emf home somewhere in Europe? Not interested in flats, cities etc... Aware that with 5G everything might change. Was thinking about Portugal for some time, but there 's a big fire problem there... A huge fire in fall 2017 destroyed many houses (for both locals and many expats), some say (not sure how accurate this could be) that this fire was started by those who want to promote 5G, as trees are a problem. It could just be some paranoia, don't know, still, I would not like to live in an area with a high fire risk.
Could only afford something relatively modest, for buying land/house etc... Other things to think of, when viewing a house? Do all countries in Europe plan to have 5G? Sorry for all the questions, any suggestions very welcome, thanks. |
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No one else here interested in maybe trying to find a home in Europe with low emf? Interested to try to connect with others es people looking for a new home.
Maybe buy together, or live in the same area/neighbourhood, or renting, or other. Many solutions possible. I am opened to different countries, have lived in Africa, Scandinavia and Asia in the past, but wish now to focus on Europe, but could maybe be open for other location outside Europe. I know that in Canada there are quite some possibilities. To start with I think that Europe might best for me. But I might also be interested in visiting communities and other outside Europe. I do not travel anymore because of wifi everywhere, but if the goal is to visit places that are low on radiation and with people aware of it, it could be for me a new way to travel. All suggestions and ideas welcome :) |
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I am currently looking in France, Best wishes, Sylvan (Also Italy). On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 4:35 PM kara [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: No one else here interested in maybe trying to find a home in Europe with low emf? Interested to try to connect with others es people looking for a new home. |
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Hello!? On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:08 AM kara [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: Anyone could maybe come up with some idea (s) concerning buying/renting a low emf home somewhere in Europe? Not interested in flats, cities etc... Aware that with 5G everything might change. Was thinking about Portugal for some time, but there 's a big fire problem there... A huge fire in fall 2017 destroyed many houses (for both locals and many expats), some say (not sure how accurate this could be) that this fire was started by those who want to promote 5G, as trees are a problem. It could just be some paranoia, don't know, still, I would not like to live in an area with a high fire risk. |
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Hello!? On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 4:43 PM robert [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote:
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This post was updated on .
EHS forums aren't densely populated.
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I don't think any of the ES forums have a huge number of people on them. This one has around 500. The Facebook one I run has around 3000.
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500 members and 50 active members or something like that ;(.
It looks like we must be a bunch of lunatics ! Is there a term for the psychological disorder of seeing dangers in generally accepted safe levels of emfs ? |
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A lot more people should be here, but many dont link their diseases and pain to EHS..
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Yes, this place is interesting No rads at all etc. The price for a quick sale should be 125,000 euro: 169,000 is for a long-term commercial sale. I am also looking at this property . It is also microwave-free and permaculture gardened and wonderful . Here is a description: The place is lovely- better than the photos make it out to be. A wonderful, large permaculture garden full of herbs and vegetables and ducks, geese and chickens, and much room for other things too. _ A quite large main building in good shape - original construction quite old but with new roof and new work throughout. The couple here spent the last 5 years working on the property and garden. There is no radiation I can detect. The cornet goes to its lowest setting . You have to walk a mile or so to get any radiation from the masts beyond the village of Lurcy-Levi , an hours' walk away. It is very rural, and lower population density than you find easily in the UK , in the heart of the Auvergne - full of graceful swaying trees, farms mostly with animals and sans chemical - so the land is still strong - although there is chemtrailing here as everywhere (almost) . I am saying all this in case you are interested in buying this place. I was thinking - why don't some of us buy this place. That would cost us each not very much . We could use it as our refuge to live in and maybe offer refuge to others too - perhaps for money or work in the garden etc . The rates are much lower than the UK - about 800 euros a year . The heating at the moment is all wood - 2 large burners and hot water. The wood if you keep 2 burners going all day including winter, is about 900 euros a year. It has wired internet - but mobile phones must be off limits . Then it is a digital detox idyll.There is lots of room for a wind-turbine , sunlight is good for solar if wanted. Wood can be collected from around - asking farmers if we can gather what is on the ground. The sleeping is upstairs. At the moment one huge bedroom running the length of the house. That would need to be cut into 2 or 3 , and an extra stairs put it. It is quite spacious downstairs, and there is a large half-covered open-air area downstairs and a place for meditating. There is an extra annexe with bed and stove also- almost finished - just needs glass for the windows. I could probably occupy the annexe - or something.And there are many possibilities for building -extending on the land here which is 3500 metres square I believe. Don't know whether you could put a horse on it. I expect t you might be able to You probably wouldn't want a horse though . hire a field from a farmer nearby.I expect I may be able to find students of English ( still doing my tefl course) and violin in surrounding villages. This is just to see what you think of the idea at this point. I will be back in Italy fairly soon , and in the Summer, one way or another On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:08 AM kara [via ES] <[hidden email]> wrote: Anyone could maybe come up with some idea (s) concerning buying/renting a low emf home somewhere in Europe? Not interested in flats, cities etc... Aware that with 5G everything might change. Was thinking about Portugal for some time, but there 's a big fire problem there... A huge fire in fall 2017 destroyed many houses (for both locals and many expats), some say (not sure how accurate this could be) that this fire was started by those who want to promote 5G, as trees are a problem. It could just be some paranoia, don't know, still, I would not like to live in an area with a high fire risk. |
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Sorry to answer late.
I think Greece has great prices. Just check the property prices. Some places are virtually deserted. I've been there 3x, the farther you go from Athens, I think the isolation is bigger and prices shall follow. I loved Greece, the sun, the food is fine, people were actually friendly (I had a bad impression to see the Greek abroad, some were not nice at all, I guess I only met the bad guys, either rich,or arrogant, or both). The locals were always friendly to us, the 3 times we've been there. I have an Italian friend who bought a flat there in Athens, as he's always struggling with jobs. He's happy also. They have street markets that sell local produce, the price is RIDICULOUS. So low. Nowhere in Western Europe is like that, I think. Portugal is also another great option. The food is even better, more varied than in Greece. People are also very nice, cool. Not everywhere there are forest fires. Some friends of mine showed us where to buy a small country house for very little (they are Portuguese). I hope this helps. I think I healed from ES, that is probably why I keep forgetting to visit the forum. |
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Sorry for late answer, do not always login that often on the forum.
Thanks for the link. Yes, as you wrote, I also think that we should focus on buying places like this not only for our private use but for other people in need as well. Problem is I have no driving license. And have never bought a house/property before, not sure what to look for (concerning hidden problems etc). So doing it with others, or have friendly neighbours would be a good think for me. France is good in many ways, but there are a lot of administrative problems etc, they can make you life very complicated. I have family living in France, and both expats and locals complain that the system in France is rotten. Well, I don't say it's that much better elsewhere in Europe, i suppose it's about knowing how it all works. Robert, do you live in France? |
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Thanks for the suggestions.
Greece has a great variety of landscapes and climates, I found the people really friendly and helpful. And lot's stuff is cheap. One problem is the language. Here again, some good local contacts is a must I think. Also, I think that hilly landscapes will give more possibilities to find places with "radio shadow". Portugal is becoming very hip. Should have bought something more than a decade ago, when I started to get interested in it. Prices in some place have really gone up. The good thing is that it attracts people who want to get away from mainstream and stressful life. Many of these places are off grid, great on many ways, but most people then will rely on wifi. Many of these permaculture expats do not really care about radiation, but some do. The fire issue, is really an issue. I am not sure if there is a connection or not... but I've noticed in many areas the trees are stunted, small and far in between. Constant fires are never giving the land/trees a chance to grow properly. Sure, it's not like that everywhere. But water WILL be a huge issue in the future. Lack of water was a big problem last summer in many central areas in Portugal. Many water sources do not run all year. Portugal is also quickly becoming more modern, expensive, and money oriented, but I find the people friendly in the country side. And here again you definitely need to have a driving license. Been also to the Azores, really beautiful, and VERY green, (but a bit too rainy), with a mild climate (but lots of wind and very rough seas), and lots of space, and high mountains (no worries concerning rising sea levels here). Could be a great option if with a group of people to start a new life. Also, isolated in the middle of the Atlantic, that's true, in between America and Europe. I heard there is quite an awareness about ES in Switzerland, problem is maybe the cost of life there is not the lowest. Great would be to either join a place/area where other ES people live, or try to work out something where one is not living in a bubble. |
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