Hi! I just went to Radio Shack to buy an extra AM-FM radio (model 12-467).
However it has been replaced by model 12-586, which is very similar but very slightly small in each dimension, and is more black than grey. It is also MUCH MORE SENSITIVE at detecting my keyboard when the computer is in sleep mode, with the radios tuned to the LOW end of the AM dial. The old radio could not really detect this at all, while the new one detects it a couple feet away. In other tests, like with the computer or monitor active, the new one appears to be more sensitive too, but not so dramatically. When tuned to the HIGH end of the AM dial, the old radio was significantly more sensitive. So, they may make a useful pair. As for listening to AM broadcasts, I think the new seems better but the reviews on radioshack.com are mixed. The new one takes two AA batteries instead of 3. The price is $15... it might be nice to compare other cheap radios some day... Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I should add that right now the best performance I get using the new radio
tuned to the low end of the band, with headphones. I can also detect dirty power this way that I cannot with the old radio. Bill On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi! I just went to Radio Shack to buy an extra AM-FM radio (model 12-467). > However it has been replaced by model 12-586, which is very similar but > very > slightly small in each dimension, and is more black than grey. It is also > MUCH MORE SENSITIVE at detecting my keyboard when the computer > is in sleep mode, with the radios tuned to the LOW end of the AM dial. The > old radio could not really detect this at all, while the new one detects it > a couple feet away. In other tests, like with the computer or monitor > active, the new one appears to be more sensitive too, but not > so dramatically. When tuned to the HIGH end of the AM dial, the old radio > was significantly more sensitive. So, they may make a useful pair. > As for listening to AM broadcasts, I think the new seems better but the > reviews on radioshack.com are mixed. The new one takes two AA batteries > instead > of 3. The price is $15... it might be nice to compare other cheap radios > some day... > > Bill > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Thanks for sharing Bill
I love my little AM radio, I was able to shield very effectively a bipap machine I use to sleep using my AM radio, it made a big difference in my symptoms after I shielded it. Ive spent hundreds of dollars on meters and my little AM radio is the most useful too me than any other ones. With it you can hear the RF noise from electronics, most people worry about the magnetic or electric field but in my opinion its the rf noise from electronics that causes the most distress for us. I have a little sony one I bought for 10 dollars at Frys. Later on Im thinking of getting a radio scanner that has the ability to manually change the modes (am or fm) on any frequency the scanner has reach too. Bill you should also check out this little meter that detects dirty electricity, it lets you hear it as well and it also shows a number display. Its only about 10 dollars shipped! http://cgi.ebay.com/ENTECH-wideband-powerline-noise-analyzer_W0QQitemZ270482763148QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efa076d8c -Cristian |
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Hello Bill
do you know if is there in eBay it ? or could you give me detailed brand.model etc. ? Tks Giorgio --- In [hidden email], Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote: > > Hi! I just went to Radio Shack to buy an extra AM-FM radio (model 12-467). > However it has been replaced by model 12-586, which is very similar but very > slightly small in each dimension, and is more black than grey. It is also > MUCH MORE SENSITIVE at detecting my keyboard when the computer > is in sleep mode, with the radios tuned to the LOW end of the AM dial. The > old radio could not really detect this at all, while the new one detects it > a couple feet away. In other tests, like with the computer or monitor > active, the new one appears to be more sensitive too, but not > so dramatically. When tuned to the HIGH end of the AM dial, the old radio > was significantly more sensitive. So, they may make a useful pair. > As for listening to AM broadcasts, I think the new seems better but the > reviews on radioshack.com are mixed. The new one takes two AA batteries > instead > of 3. The price is $15... it might be nice to compare other cheap radios > some day... > > Bill > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
It is this:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3705831 On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:18 AM, giorgiocinci <[hidden email]>wrote: > > > Hello Bill > > do you know if is there in eBay it ? > or could you give me detailed brand.model etc. ? > Tks > Giorgio > > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, Bill Bruno > <wbruno@...> wrote: > > > > Hi! I just went to Radio Shack to buy an extra AM-FM radio (model > 12-467). > > However it has been replaced by model 12-586, which is very similar but > very > > slightly small in each dimension, and is more black than grey. It is also > > MUCH MORE SENSITIVE at detecting my keyboard when the computer > > is in sleep mode, with the radios tuned to the LOW end of the AM dial. > The > > old radio could not really detect this at all, while the new one detects > it > > a couple feet away. In other tests, like with the computer or monitor > > active, the new one appears to be more sensitive too, but not > > so dramatically. When tuned to the HIGH end of the AM dial, the old radio > > was significantly more sensitive. So, they may make a useful pair. > > As for listening to AM broadcasts, I think the new seems better but the > > reviews on radioshack.com are mixed. The new one takes two AA batteries > > instead > > of 3. The price is $15... it might be nice to compare other cheap radios > > some day... > > > > Bill > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I am new to all of this, so I'm sure my questions are pretty dumb, but what do you mean by "shielding"? Does it stop any symptoms you are getting from electrical fields? How would I use it -- like when I'm using my computer? Is it also something that might help me with fluorescent lights in stores? Sorry for the ignorance, but I'm feeling overwhelmed trying to figure out how to deal with all of this electrical sensitivity stuff.
Thanks!!! Amy ________________________________ From: cris_aov <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 1:31:13 AM Subject: [eSens] Re: New RadioShack radio more sensitive! Thanks for sharing Bill I love my little AM radio, I was able to shield very effectively a bipap machine I use to sleep using my AM radio, it made a big difference in my symptoms after I shielded it. Ive spent hundreds of dollars on meters and my little AM radio is the most useful too me than any other ones. With it you can hear the RF noise from electronics, most people worry about the magnetic or electric field but in my opinion its the rf noise from electronics that causes the most distress for us. I have a little sony one I bought for 10 dollars at Frys. Later on Im thinking of getting a radio scanner that has the ability to manually change the modes (am or fm) on any frequency the scanner has reach too. Bill you should also check out this little meter that detects dirty electricity, it lets you hear it as well and it also shows a number display. Its only about 10 dollars shipped! http://cgi.ebay.com/ENTECH-wideband-powerline-noise-analyzer_W0QQitemZ270482763148QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efa076d8c -Cristian ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Bill - How does the radio work to help you -- does it ease your symptoms or just let you know that a problem is there? I would love to hear more of your experiences with using it. Thanks, Amy
________________________________ From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 10:05:08 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New RadioShack radio more sensitive! It is this: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3705831 On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:18 AM, giorgiocinci <[hidden email]>wrote: > > > Hello Bill > > do you know if is there in eBay it ? > or could you give me detailed brand.model etc. ? > Tks > Giorgio > > > --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, Bill Bruno > <wbruno@...> wrote: > > > > Hi! I just went to Radio Shack to buy an extra AM-FM radio (model > 12-467). > > However it has been replaced by model 12-586, which is very similar but > very > > slightly small in each dimension, and is more black than grey. It is also > > MUCH MORE SENSITIVE at detecting my keyboard when the computer > > is in sleep mode, with the radios tuned to the LOW end of the AM dial. > The > > old radio could not really detect this at all, while the new one detects > it > > a couple feet away. In other tests, like with the computer or monitor > > active, the new one appears to be more sensitive too, but not > > so dramatically. When tuned to the HIGH end of the AM dial, the old radio > > was significantly more sensitive. So, they may make a useful pair. > > As for listening to AM broadcasts, I think the new seems better but the > > reviews on radioshack.com are mixed. The new one takes two AA batteries > > instead > > of 3. The price is $15... it might be nice to compare other cheap radios > > some day... > > > > Bill > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
The radio lets you hear some of the RF noise emmited by electronics.
What I meant by shielding is that I made an enclosure around my bipap machine with aluminum foil and copper tape, and with the help of the AM radio I was able to hear the reduction in noise, if there was a gap in the shilding I could hear it with the radio and I could cover the gap with copper tape. it reduced the noise on the AM radio from the bipap by ~80%. |
> The radio lets you hear some of the RF noise emmited by electronics. Hi Bill how cam you hear these frequencies ? which ranges are involved ? (I ant totest my own AM radio) Tks Giorgio --- In [hidden email], "cris_aov" <cris_aov@...> wrote: > > The radio lets you hear some of the RF noise emmited by electronics. > > > What I meant by shielding is that I made an enclosure around my bipap machine with aluminum foil and copper tape, and with the help of the AM radio I was able to hear the reduction in noise, if there was a gap in the shilding I could hear it with the radio and I could cover the gap with copper tape. it reduced the noise on the AM radio from the bipap by ~80%. > |
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In a message dated 14/01/2010 13:14:19 GMT Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: > The radio lets you hear some of the RF noise emmited by electronics. Hi Bill how cam you hear these frequencies ? which ranges are involved ? (I ant to test my own AM radio) Tks Giorgio puk replies - the AM radio simply converts the RF signals into meaningless noise, but reflects the erractic nature of the signal by giving a unique sound for the frequencies being picked up by the receiver and the unprotected circuits in the radio, for instance the Plasma TV that I pick up on my AM radio sounds like a very agressive FAX type noise, where as the noise from the display on my dvd player gives a buzz and so on, its merely an indicator of how a device scatters out RF frequencies (within the AM range) and is good to determine how far reaching these frequencies are by the loudnes of the noise generated by the radio, so as you move away from a noisy appliance the sound will go down. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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