Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt vibrations going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a chemical taste in my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) program which isa detox. It corrects your electromagnetic field. It measures polarity and mine was off the charts. I'm hoping this will correct it. I am overwhelmed with this and have 3 small children. My husband is a school teacher and we don't have the money to correct our home. Are there any gov. grants? I am very depressed and wake up panicky every morning. I live in the Athanta area.
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> Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt
> vibrations going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a > chemical taste in my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) > program which is a detox. Could it be the detox that's making you worse? I know that many types of detox makes my ES worse, and I either have to reduce the dosage of whatever I'm taking, or discontinue the program to get my symptoms back to "normal". Marc |
Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going on.Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He suggested one of those to help with it.
--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt > > vibrations going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a > > chemical taste in my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) > > program which is a detox. > > Could it be the detox that's making you worse? I know that many > types of detox makes my ES worse, and I either have to reduce > the dosage of whatever I'm taking, or discontinue the program > to get my symptoms back to "normal". > > Marc > |
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> Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going
> on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He > suggested one of those to help with it. The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if you happen to try that particular product... :-) I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products, or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro, but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group, unless they'd like to speakup now... :-) Marc |
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Heather, Earthcalm Plug in device 14 circuits changed my energy level right away. I plugged it in all the way not in steps, following their instructions. I know I am bad but that is my ingrained all or nothing attitude. I do not recommend that. I am able to walk and work as opposed to being sofa ridden 50 percent of the time. I feel that I still have some heart palpitations but I am trying to understand if it is because of the EarthCalm or I am overdoing it in front ofmy computer reading about ES stuff, way too much... I am not not healedbut it was a step in the right direction.As far as Earthclam goes it is 90 days money back so YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE. I have another 50 days togo myself.
I also installed Graham Stetzer filters all over my place. I understand that filters are only for diminishing some dirty electricity influence around the house, so to speak in Layman's terms. Now, what I DID NOTICE after installing filters is my digestion change. After about a day ortwo and initial "cleansing" I am able to have a more normal bowel movementinstead of loose stools. Sorry to talk about this but that is how ES affects me. I basically suffered from that symptom for about 10 years. Now I am left to ponder would have Earthcalm eventually get me here or did I need these filters really..who knows. I had to quit sleeping on my regular coil mattress, apparently metal in mattresses gets affected and makes you worse overnight. That was a CHEAP solution. However crazy that seems I sleep on a comfortable "non electrical" AIR BED while I am evaluating this whole issue. I feel better. My hips do not hurt much in the morning. Hip pains every morning was my alarm clock for 10 years. While researching ES in the last week or so I came across http://electrical-sensitivity.info/ , overcoming electrical sensitivity. Others in this group are perhaps aware of this fellow Gillian Joy but to mehe is like a mental anchor. If he can, so can I. Not to mention that I hadexactly the same list of symptoms as he did and that he had some original relief with Earthcalm stuff too. For me and I beleive many of us, this ES had been a major money drain in just a short of period of time, but I have seen some improvement. I am thinking, it is my health here and if I do not give it my 100% I will regretit. I am not sure if it is also common in English but in Croatian we say "A healthy person has many desires, but a sick one has only one." So good luck and I hope that you get some results soon. Sandra 6/23/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer To: [hidden email] Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM > Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going > on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He > suggested one of those to help with it. The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if you happen to try that particular product... :-) I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products, or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro, but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group, unless they'd like to speakup now... :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Heather,
Do you have cell antennas in the area. You need to figure out what is causing this. I went through horrible time when I moved in to this house about ayear & a half ago. I didn't know about my ES & finally figured it out. Had a Home Biologist come & test. He concluded that my RF was very high due to Cell antennas rightout my back window from the school & library. These antennas are hidden a of times now. That's not all that is wrong with my house but was HUGE. I know how it feels to have no money to spend & be reacting to everything. I'm still pretty sensitive but I am doing better than I did. I couldn't tolerate this house very long & had to live elsewhere. At least my kids are teenagers. Can't image having this happen when they were small. I couldn't live in my house & had to leave. We'll try to help you as much as we can Heather. Hang on! Loni --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Heather Bain <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Heather Bain <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] New MCS and EMF sufferer To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 6:31 AM Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt vibrationsgoing through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a chemical taste in my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) program which is a detox. It corrects your electromagnetic field. It measures polarity and mine was off the charts. I'm hoping this will correct it. I am overwhelmed with this and have 3 small children. My husband is a school teacher and we don't have the money to correct our home. Are there any gov. grants? I am verydepressed and wake up panicky every morning. I live in the Athanta area. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hey Sandra, Can you keep us informed about how the Earthcalm & filters are working. I tried the Earthcalm & initially felt relief but it did hot last. I had all these cell antennas arount however. I am thinking about trying the filters. What is the difference in these two things???
I installed window tint from Germany to shield the RF in my home & it is a LOT better. So now I feel like I can address the rest of the dirty electricity in here. I am still not able to sleep here but I am hopefull!!!! Loni --- On Tue, 6/23/09, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote: From: S.T. <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 8:39 AM Heather, Earthcalm Plug in device 14 circuits changed my energy level right away. I plugged it in all the way not in steps, following their instructions. I know I am bad but that is my ingrained all or nothing attitude. I do not recommend that. I am able to walk and work as opposed to being sofa ridden 50 percent of the time. I feel that I still have some heart palpitations but I am trying to understand if it is because of the EarthCalm or I am overdoing it in front of my computer reading about ES stuff, way too much... I am not not healed but it was a step in the right direction.As far as Earthclam goes it is90 days money back so YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE. I have another 50 days to go myself. I also installed Graham Stetzer filters all over my place. I understand that filters are only for diminishing some dirty electricity influence around the house, so to speak in Layman's terms. Now, what I DID NOTICE after installing filters is my digestion change. After about a day or two and initial "cleansing" I am able to have a more normal bowel movement instead of loose stools. Sorry to talk about this but that is how ES affects me. I basically suffered from that symptom for about 10 years. Now I am left to ponder would have Earthcalm eventually get me here or did I need these filters really..who knows. I had to quit sleeping on my regular coil mattress, apparently metal in mattresses gets affected and makes you worse overnight. That was a CHEAP solution. However crazy that seems I sleep on a comfortable "non electrical" AIR BED while I am evaluating this whole issue. I feel better. My hips do not hurt much in the morning. Hip pains every morning was my alarm clock for 10 years. While researching ES in the last week or so I came across http://electrical- sensitivity. info/ , overcoming electrical sensitivity. Others in this group are perhaps aware of this fellow Gillian Joy but to mehe is like a mental anchor. If he can, so can I. Not to mention that I hadexactly the same list of symptoms as he did and that he had some original relief with Earthcalm stuff too. For me and I beleive many of us, this ES had been a major money drain in just a short of period of time, but I have seen some improvement. I am thinking, it is my health here and if I do not give it my 100% I will regretit. I am not sure if it is also common in English but in Croatian we say "A healthy person has many desires, but a sick one has only one." So good luck and I hope that you get some results soon. Sandra 6/23/09, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM > Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going > on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He > suggested one of those to help with it. The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if you happen to try that particular product... :-) I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products, or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro, but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group, unless they'd like to speakup now... :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thank you! I will give that a try. My doctor was telling me about a plug in that Global Vision has. Does anyone else know anything about it?
-------------- Original message from "S.T." <[hidden email]>: -------------- Heather, Earthcalm Plug in device 14 circuits changed my energy level right away. I plugged it in all the way not in steps, following their instructions. I know I am bad but that is my ingrained all or nothing attitude. I do not recommend that. I am able to walk and work as opposed to being sofa ridden 50 percent of the time. I feel that I still have some heart palpitations but I am trying to understand if it is because of the EarthCalm or I am overdoing it in front of my computer reading about ES stuff, way too much... I am not not healed but it was a step in the right direction.As far as Earthclam goes it is 90 days money back so YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE. I have another 50 days to go myself. I also installed Graham Stetzer filters all over my place. I understand that filters are only for diminishing some dirty electricity influence around the house, so to speak in Layman's terms. Now, what I DID NOTICE after installing filters is my digestion change. After about a day or two and initial "cleansing" I am able to have a more normal bowel movement instead of loose stools. Sorry to talk about this but that is how ES affects me. I basically suffered from that symptom for about 10 years. Now I am left to ponder would have Earthcalm eventually get me here or did I need these filters really..who knows. I had to quit sleeping on my regular coil mattress, apparently metal in mattresses gets affected and makes you worse overnight. That was a CHEAP solution. However crazy that seems I sleep on a comfortable "non electrical" AIR BED while I am evaluating this whole issue. I feel better. My hips do not hurt much in the morning. Hip pains every morning was my alarm clock for 10 years. While researching ES in the last week or so I came across http://electrical-sensitivity.info/ , overcoming electrical sensitivity. Others in this group are perhaps aware of this fellow Gillian Joy but to me he is like a mental anchor. If he can, so can I. Not to mention that I had exactly the same list of symptoms as he did and that he had some original relief with Earthcalm stuff too. For me and I beleive many of us, this ES had been a major money drain in just a short of period of time, but I have seen some improvement. I am thinking, it is my health here and if I do not give it my 100% I will regret it. I am not sure if it is also common in English but in Croatian we say "A healthy person has many desires, but a sick one has only one." So good luck and I hope that you get some results soon. Sandra 6/23/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer To: [hidden email] Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM > Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going > on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He > suggested one of those to help with it. The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if you happen to try that particular product... :-) I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products, or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro, but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group, unless they'd like to speakup now... :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I had someone come out to test indoor air quality and found that there was alot of electrical output in one of my wall sockets that he tested with a nanometer. We changed the wall socket but I don't know if it did any good. He wants to charge me to come back out and test it. Any suggestions? Thanks for your support.
--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > Heather, > > Do you have cell antennas in the area. You need to figure out what is causing this. I went through horrible time when I moved in to this house abouta year & a half ago. > I didn't know about my ES & finally figured it out. Had a Home Biologist come & test. He concluded that my RF was very high due to Cell antennas right out my back window from the school & library. These antennas are hidden a of times now. That's not all that is wrong with my house but was HUGE. > > I know how it feels to have no money to spend & be reacting to everything. I'm still pretty sensitive but I am doing better than I did. I couldn't tolerate this house very long & had to live elsewhere. > > At least my kids are teenagers. Can't image having this happen when they were small. I couldn't live in my house & had to leave. > > We'll try to help you as much as we can Heather. Hang on! Loni > > > > --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Heather Bain <hcbain2@...> wrote: > > > From: Heather Bain <hcbain2@...> > Subject: [eSens] New MCS and EMF sufferer > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 6:31 AM > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt vibrations going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a chemical taste in my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) program which is a detox. It corrects your electromagnetic field. It measures polarity and mine was off the charts. I'm hoping this will correct it. I am overwhelmed with this and have 3 small children. My husband is a school teacher and we don't have the money to correct our home. Are there any gov. grants? I am very depressed and wake up panicky every morning. I live in the Athanta area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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hi Laurel and Marc,
i have been bragging the Quantum Pro up lately--i love this energy conditioner! as Marc posted last week, the conditioners Quantum sells without the fine-tuning settings may not have worked for me, because they are permanently set at setting "8", but my body does best with settings "2" to "5". so i recommend the more expensive "Pro" device, rather than "Quantum Home". i am also trying out the "Quantum Companion" for when i leave home, but so far i'm not liking it. (Steph, you asked privately what i was using and if it still was working and this the info. yes, the "Pro" is still working great and works even better with my new combo of supplements.) diane --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 10:18 AM > Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going > on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He > suggested one of those to help with it. The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if you happen to try that particular product... :-) I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products, or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro, but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group, unless they'd like to speakup now... :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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hi, Heather,
sorry i called you Laurel in the last post. i didn't mention it earlier,but i did the same as ST with my Q-Pro. the 1st day i plugged it in, i found the best setting for me by turning it up a quarter turn every 15 mins. at 3/4 of the way up, i tinkered with fine tuning it, since i felt i was getting close to a setting which worked for me. then i set the other fine-tuning button in the back. like ST said, the company did not advisethis, but i could not stay in the house at all with a lesser setting. since using the Q-Pro, i am now fine in this house and only have very minor ES during part of the cycle the fridge runs (a couple minutes/ hour or more) if i am in that section of the house. i have no Stetzer filters or other devices other than a 3 prong conditioner which Quantum sent me free with purchase of the Pro. (I have the fridge plugged into that; i used to react the entire time the fridge ran, instead of just a couple minutes. Marc suggested i try something else in addition for the remaining reactionwith the fridge and i am working on that) i do, however, also use a nutrient combo with it. but it works regardless of the nutrients. it just gives me more stamina during the day with the nutrients (and also helps more with emfs when i leave home). the first several days after i plugged in the Pro, i had mild detoxing which made me ditsy and clumsy. that was the only downside. be careful you don'thurt yourself during this period, if you try one. good luck, diane --- On Tue, 6/23/09, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote: From: S.T. <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 11:39 AM Heather, Earthcalm Plug in device 14 circuits changed my energy level right away. I plugged it in all the way not in steps, following their instructions. I know I am bad but that is my ingrained all or nothing attitude. I do not recommend that. I am able to walk and work as opposed to being sofa ridden 50 percent of the time. I feel that I still have some heart palpitations but I am trying to understand if it is because of the EarthCalm or I am overdoing it in front of my computer reading about ES stuff, way too much... I am not not healed but it was a step in the right direction.As far as Earthclam goes it is90 days money back so YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE. I have another 50 days to go myself. I also installed Graham Stetzer filters all over my place. I understand that filters are only for diminishing some dirty electricity influence around the house, so to speak in Layman's terms. Now, what I DID NOTICE after installing filters is my digestion change. After about a day or two and initial "cleansing" I am able to have a more normal bowel movement instead of loose stools. Sorry to talk about this but that is how ES affects me. I basically suffered from that symptom for about 10 years. Now I am left to ponder would have Earthcalm eventually get me here or did I need these filters really..who knows. I had to quit sleeping on my regular coil mattress, apparently metal in mattresses gets affected and makes you worse overnight. That was a CHEAP solution. However crazy that seems I sleep on a comfortable "non electrical" AIR BED while I am evaluating this whole issue. I feel better. My hips do not hurt much in the morning. Hip pains every morning was my alarm clock for 10 years. While researching ES in the last week or so I came across http://electrical- sensitivity. info/ , overcoming electrical sensitivity. Others in this group are perhaps aware of this fellow Gillian Joy but to mehe is like a mental anchor. If he can, so can I. Not to mention that I hadexactly the same list of symptoms as he did and that he had some original relief with Earthcalm stuff too. For me and I beleive many of us, this ES had been a major money drain in just a short of period of time, but I have seen some improvement. I am thinking, it is my health here and if I do not give it my 100% I will regretit. I am not sure if it is also common in English but in Croatian we say "A healthy person has many desires, but a sick one has only one." So good luck and I hope that you get some results soon. Sandra 6/23/09, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM > Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going > on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He > suggested one of those to help with it. The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if you happen to try that particular product... :-) I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products, or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro, but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group, unless they'd like to speakup now... :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Marc, i cant remember if you have mentioned this before, but does the quantum pro work with the uk voltage, or do they make a different one for Uk andeurope? thanks Ada --- On Wed, 24/6/09, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Evie <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 5:55 AM hi Laurel and Marc, i have been bragging the Quantum Pro up lately--i love this energy conditioner! as Marc posted last week, the conditioners Quantum sells without the fine-tuning settings may not have worked for me, because they are permanently set at setting "8", but my body does best with settings "2" to "5". so i recommend the more expensive "Pro" device, rather than "Quantum Home". i am also trying out the "Quantum Companion" for when i leave home, but so far i'm not liking it. (Steph, you asked privately what i was using and if it still was working and this the info. yes, the "Pro" is still working great and works even better with my new combo of supplements. ) diane --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer To: eSens@yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 10:18 AM > Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going > on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He > suggested one of those to help with it. The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if you happen to try that particular product... :-) I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products, or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro, but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group, unless they'd like to speakup now... :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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hi Heather,
i forgot to mention this in one of the other 2 replies i sent you and hatedto write another post, because i have written so many posts already it is like "Evie overkill"! ;) but since nobody mentioned it.... a bed with springs will contribute to the vibrating. if you haven't yet done it, it would help if you bought a foam or air mattress. ditch box springs too and rethink your bedframe using something other than metal. i personally use a double high air mattress (be careful there is not metalincorporated into the mattress itself in the way of coils, or that the blow up device is attached and adds metal to the mattress.) my air mattress has a detachable inflater. i put it on a wood frame which puts the mattress about 6" off the floor (otherwise, you get cold in the winter ifyour basement is unheated.) i will probably someday design a simple headboard/footboard with siderails to put around this. i did this in my old house with a used "Jenny Lind" waterbed frame and when the bed was made, you would never have known the bed was an air mattress. also, for vibrating, i take a quality brand B12 sublingual--1000mcg--beforebed. after doing this and getting rid of metal springs, etc, i have no vibrating. (it might take you a while to build up to the place it helps you. i had been taking it during the day for over a year, but it wasn't till i accidently took it before bed one night that i got results.) good luck; hope this helps, diane --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Heather Bain <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Heather Bain <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] New MCS and EMF sufferer To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 9:31 AM Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt vibrationsgoing through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a chemical taste in my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) program which is a detox. It corrects your electromagnetic field. It measures polarity and mine was off the charts. I'm hoping this will correct it. I am overwhelmed with this and have 3 small children. My husband is a school teacher and we don't have the money to correct our home. Are there any gov. grants? I am verydepressed and wake up panicky every morning. I live in the Athanta area. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Marc, i cant remember if you have mentioned this before, but does the
> quantum pro work with the uk voltage, or do they make a different one for > Uk and europe? The Quantum Pro uses an AC to DC adapter, so you'd need a different adapter for UK use. The company may have the appropriate adapter for that, but you'd need to ask them. Marc |
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> i am also trying out the "Quantum Companion" for when i
> leave home, but so far i'm not liking it. Are you not liking it because it's not strong enough to make a difference, or is causing some kind of adverse reaction? Marc |
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> Thank you! I will give that a try. My doctor was telling me about a
> plug in that Global Vision has. Does anyone else know anything about it? Are you talking about BIOPRO products? It doesn't seem that hardly anyone here has experience with these. On a couple occasions someone bought something and reported it did nothing, so I haven't been interested enough in them to try them myself. Marc |
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--- In [hidden email], Loni <loni326@...> wrote:
> > Hey Sandra, Can you keep us informed about how the Earthcalm & filtersare working. I tried the Earthcalm & initially felt relief but it did hot last. I had all these cell antennas arount however. I am thinking about trying the filters. What is the difference in these two things??? Hi Loni That is too bad that EartCalm did not last for you. I think Marc did not have a great experience with it either. I think the difference between EartCalm ans Stetzer is that EarthCalm dealswith RF that comes from cell phones towers but Stetzer filters do not. Thecomment from my EMF consultant was that Stetzer filters allow less dirty electricity coming through the house electrical wirring and outlets. So supposedly if I have these filters around me I will have less of an electromagnetic load on my body. He claims that the ES problem is of a cumulative nature. So I guess more sources you eliminate the better it should be. HoweverI am such a rookie here that I have no idea if that is relevant. > > I installed window tint from Germany to shield the RF in my home & it is a LOT better. So now I feel like I can address the rest of the dirty electricity in here. I am still not able to sleep here but I am hopefull!!!! Now that is a major step, I might consider that window tint thing too. Which brand did you get and did you install it yourself? Thanks > Sandra > Loni > > --- On Tue, 6/23/09, S.T. <stcro@...> wrote: > > > From: S.T. <stcro@...> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer > To: [hidden email] > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 8:39 AM > > > > > > > > > Heather, Earthcalm Plug in device 14 circuits changed my energy level right away. I plugged it in all the way not in steps, following their instructions. I know I am bad but that is my ingrained all or nothing attitude. I do not recommend that. I am able to walk and work as opposed to being sofa ridden 50 percent of the time. Ifeel that I still have some heart palpitations but I am trying to understand if it is because of the EarthCalm or I am overdoing it in front of my computer reading about ES stuff, way too much... I am not not healed but it was a step in the right direction.As far as Earthclam goes it is 90 days money back so YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE. I have another 50 days to go myself. > > I also installed Graham Stetzer filters all over my place. I understandthat filters are only for diminishing some dirty electricity influence around the house, so to speak in Layman's terms. Now, what I DID NOTICE after installing filters is my digestion change. After about a dayor two and initial "cleansing" I am able to have a more normal bowel movement instead of loose stools. Sorry to talk about this but that is how ES affects me. I basically suffered from that symptom for about 10 years. Now I am left to ponder would have Earthcalm eventually get me here or did I need these filters really..who knows. > > I had to quit sleeping on my regular coil mattress, apparently metal inmattresses gets affected and makes you worse overnight. That was a CHEAP solution. However crazy that seems I sleep on a comfortable "non electrical" AIR BED while I am evaluating this whole issue. I feel better. My hips do not hurt much in the morning. Hip pains every morning was my alarm clock for 10 years. > > While researching ES in the last week or so I came across > > http://electrical- sensitivity. info/ , overcoming electrical sensitivity. > > Others in this group are perhaps aware of this fellow Gillian Joy but to me he is like a mental anchor. If he can, so can I. Not to mention that I had exactly the same list of symptoms as he did and that he had some original relief with Earthcalm stuff too. > > For me and I beleive many of us, this ES had been a major money drain in just a short of period of time, but I have seen some improvement. I amthinking, it is my health here and if I do not give it my 100% I will regret it. I am not sure if it is also common in English but in Croatian we say "A healthy person has many desires, but a sick one has only one." > > So good luck and I hope that you get some results soon. > > Sandra > > > > > > > > > > 6/23/09, Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote: > > From: Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM > > > Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going > > on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He > > suggested one of those to help with it. > > The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would > react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if > you happen to try that particular product... :-) > > I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want > to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products, > or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro, > but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are > second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group, > unless they'd like to speakup now... :-) > > Marc > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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I had someone come out to test indoor air quality and found that there was alot of electrical output in one of my wall sockets that he tested with a nanometer. We changed the wall socket but I don't know if it did any good. He wants to charge me to come back out and test it. Any suggestions? Hi Heather, I know all this electromagnetic-speak can be confusing, but can you clarify what was found and what meter was used? That will determine what to do next. Was magnetic field measured? With a gaussmeter? Or was electric field measured? With an electric field meter? Or was high frequency noise measured? With a plug-in Stetzer meter? Emil |
I do not know what was used. It was something they plugged into the light sockets all around the house. They said it should not be above 300 and wasin the 1000's. in this one wall socket. They said to just change the wallsocket out. We did that but I'm not sure if it has helped because the detoxing is exaceberating my symptoms. I have slept two nights in a row though since I've seen the doc. He put me on Min Tran which is a magnesium, iodine supplement, plus I am doing the detox, he gave me zypan and digest for digestion, parotid pmg for liver and Drenotrophin for my adrenals, Thytrophin and B-12 with trace minereals for my thyroid. He also gave me a homeopathic called visceral polarity that seems to help with my panicking and my sensitivity.
--- In [hidden email], "lessemf.com" <lessemf@...> wrote: > > > I had someone come out to test indoor air quality and found that there was > alot of electrical output in one of my wall sockets that he tested with a > nanometer. We changed the wall socket but I don't know if it did any good. > He wants to charge me to come back out and test it. Any suggestions? > > Hi Heather, > > I know all this electromagnetic-speak can be confusing, but can you clarify > what was found and what meter was used? That will determine what to do next. > Was magnetic field measured? With a gaussmeter? > Or was electric field measured? With an electric field meter? > Or was high frequency noise measured? With a plug-in Stetzer meter? > > Emil > |
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Did he test RF? Loni
--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Heather Bain <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Heather Bain <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 10:07 AM I had someone come out to test indoor air quality and found that there was alot of electrical output in one of my wall sockets that he tested with a nanometer. We changed the wall socket but I don't know if it did any good. He wants to charge me to come back out and test it. Any suggestions? Thanks for your support. --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Loni <loni326@... > wrote: > > Heather, > > Do you have cell antennas in the area. You need to figure out what is causing this. I went through horrible time when I moved in to this house abouta year & a half ago. > I didn't know about my ES & finally figured it out. Had a Home Biologist come & test. He concluded that my RF was very high due to Cell antennas right out my back window from the school & library. These antennas are hidden a of times now. That's not all that is wrong with my house but was HUGE. > > I know how it feels to have no money to spend & be reacting to everything. I'm still pretty sensitive but I am doing better than I did. I couldn't tolerate this house very long & had to live elsewhere. > > At least my kids are teenagers. Can't image having this happen when they were small. I couldn't live in my house & had to leave. > > We'll try to help you as much as we can Heather. Hang on! Loni > > > > --- On Mon, 6/22/09, Heather Bain <hcbain2@... > wrote: > > > From: Heather Bain <hcbain2@... > > Subject: [eSens] New MCS and EMF sufferer > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 6:31 AM > > > > > > > > > Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt vibrations going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a chemical taste in my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) program which is a detox. It corrects your electromagnetic field. It measures polarity and mine was off the charts. I'm hoping this will correct it. I am overwhelmed with this and have 3 small children. My husband is a school teacher and we don't have the money to correct our home. Are there any gov. grants? I am very depressed and wake up panicky every morning. I live in the Athanta area. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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