New File

All, I added a photo of Elizabeth  in the file section under photos

for all who would like one to help you remember her.




Kathy


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thank you, kathy.  that is a lovely photo.
i'd never seen lizzie before.  she is beautiful.  
love, patricia


On Aug 27, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Kathy Baumann wrote:

> All, I added a photo of Elizabeth  in the file section under photos
>
> for all who would like one to help you remember her.
>
> Kathy
>

Thank  you so much for the photo of Lizzie. I have never  seen her before
and she's lovely.
So terribly sad that she is gone. Hard to believe especially  when no one
seems to know what happened to her.
 
Estelle

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On August 27, [hidden email] wrote:
> So terribly sad that she is gone. Hard to believe especially  when no one
> seems to know what happened to her.

The first report I've gotten privately is that it was suicide.  :-(

Marc

Woah - that does not make any sense at all.
Suicided is little more believable.

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
>
> On August 27, e4health@... wrote:
> > So terribly sad that she is gone. Hard to believe especially  when no one
> > seems to know what happened to her.
>
> The first report I've gotten privately is that it was suicide.  :-(
>
> Marc
>

Oh my gosh Marc, how horrible.  Did your source tell you if she left a  
note?  
 
Estelle

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On August 27, [hidden email] wrote:
> Oh my gosh Marc, how horrible.  Did your source tell you if she left a note?  

No, that's all I heard.

...also, Lizzie's daughter never replied to my message, although according
to Facebook, she read my message 24 hours ago.

Marc

Noooooooo i cannot believe that of Lizzie - Lizzie had an enormous struggle but she was one of life's fighters - there is no way I can imagine she would have done that
Steph




________________________________
 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013, 4:18
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File
 


 
On August 27, [hidden email] wrote:
> So terribly sad that she is gone. Hard to believe especially  when no one
> seems to know what happened to her.

The first report I've gotten privately is that it was suicide.  :-(

Marc

 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

i too, stephanie, question that 'diagnosis'.  
many people these days who are especially smart
and insightful and aware of real problems and
helpful and kind... are 'suicided'... have you
noticed?  people who challenge the system and
then suddenly drop of heart attacks, develop 'fast
growing cancers', multiple gunshot wounds to the
head, cars exploding in one-car crashes...
i've been following this trend for years.
lizzie was especially intelligent, wise, helpful, aware
of the real problems in the world, and outspoken.  
patricia


On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

Not wanting to sound all conspiracy theorist Patricia, but I agree with your thinking - she was outspoken - someone needed to be and she was and did it well - no one likes what we are saying about all of this technology because if they had to take our concerns on board then all of this stuff would be stopped in its tracks - think of tobacco, asbestos etc - the world's economy revolves around all of this technology and Lizzie was very good at articulating the problems - there are many ways of silencing someone like that and maybe that is what happened. Lizzie helped many on this site - she went out of her way to do so and spent considerable time and effort doing so - I personally am devastated that she is gone and it feels like there is a big hole left in this group now.

Steph




________________________________
 From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013, 17:56
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File
 


 
i too, stephanie, question that 'diagnosis'.
many people these days who are especially smart
and insightful and aware of real problems and
helpful and kind... are 'suicided'... have you
noticed?  people who challenge the system and
then suddenly drop of heart attacks, develop 'fast
growing cancers', multiple gunshot wounds to the
head, cars exploding in one-car crashes...
i've been following this trend for years.
lizzie was especially intelligent, wise, helpful, aware
of the real problems in the world, and outspoken.
patricia

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:


 

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I'm sure everyone here has at least entertained the thought that she did not kill herself.  However, Marc did note that her daughter moved out of state one month before Lizzie passed... That woman lived and breathed for her daughter.  It seems possible to me that she went into a massive depression when she left.  With the world going to hell in a hand-basket, a head full of too-much-knowledge of terrible things, and her baby no longer by her side... maybe it tipped her into that place where the world was just too much and she said goodbye.  


________________________________
 From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File



 
Not wanting to sound all conspiracy theorist Patricia, but I agree with your thinking - she was outspoken - someone needed to be and she was and did it well - no one likes what we are saying about all of this technology because if they had to take our concerns on board then all of this stuff would be stopped in its tracks - think of tobacco, asbestos etc - the world's economy revolves around all of this technology and Lizzie was very good at articulating the problems - there are many ways of silencing someone like that and maybe that is what happened. Lizzie helped many on this site - she went out of her way to do so and spent considerable time and effort doing so - I personally am devastated that she is gone and it feels like there is a big hole left in this group now.

Steph

________________________________
From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013, 17:56
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File


 
i too, stephanie, question that 'diagnosis'.
many people these days who are especially smart
and insightful and aware of real problems and
helpful and kind... are 'suicided'... have you
noticed?  people who challenge the system and
then suddenly drop of heart attacks, develop 'fast
growing cancers', multiple gunshot wounds to the
head, cars exploding in one-car crashes...
i've been following this trend for years.
lizzie was especially intelligent, wise, helpful, aware
of the real problems in the world, and outspoken.
patricia

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

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I must state that it probably could have gone either way.  The material I have might make it more difficult to discern.  Liz had gone from very hopeful to very woeful.  I considered your position Ci after Marc stated that Alex had moved to MA a month before she expired, but according to what Liz wrote- she had been feeling estranged from her daughter for at least a year, but even more so towards the end of last year when she had moved in with her dad and stepmom-- maybe that was to initially lighten the MA blow-- but it's hard to tell where she was at from the manuscript she sent me.  We continued to correspond via email until May 17th.  She never mentioned that Alex had moved to MA.  There's probably a great deal  that I didn't know. 
 
Pam


________________________________
From: ci dixon <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
I'm sure everyone here has at least entertained the thought that she did not kill herself.  However, Marc did note that her daughter moved out of state one month before Lizzie passed... That woman lived and breathed for her daughter.  It seems possible to me that she went into a massive depression when she left.  With the world going to hell in a hand-basket, a head full of too-much-knowledge of terrible things, and her baby no longer by her side... maybe it tipped her into that place where the world was just too much and she said goodbye.  

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <mailto:reader41%40ymail.com>
To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File


 
Not wanting to sound all conspiracy theorist Patricia, but I agree with your thinking - she was outspoken - someone needed to be and she was and did it well - no one likes what we are saying about all of this technology because if they had to take our concerns on board then all of this stuff would be stopped in its tracks - think of tobacco, asbestos etc - the world's economy revolves around all of this technology and Lizzie was very good at articulating the problems - there are many ways of silencing someone like that and maybe that is what happened. Lizzie helped many on this site - she went out of her way to do so and spent considerable time and effort doing so - I personally am devastated that she is gone and it feels like there is a big hole left in this group now.

Steph

________________________________
From: Patricia Robinett <mailto:patricia%40efn.org>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013, 17:56
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
i too, stephanie, question that 'diagnosis'.
many people these days who are especially smart
and insightful and aware of real problems and
helpful and kind... are 'suicided'... have you
noticed? people who challenge the system and
then suddenly drop of heart attacks, develop 'fast
growing cancers', multiple gunshot wounds to the
head, cars exploding in one-car crashes...
i've been following this trend for years.
lizzie was especially intelligent, wise, helpful, aware
of the real problems in the world, and outspoken.
patricia

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm suspicious of what has happened to Dr. Magda Havas. It's sad that Lizzie had to go out that way. If you are feeling that bad taking a long drive or walk will help get away from something affecting your mood. Anyone speaking out about this knowledge may have a target on them sooner or later. The more informed the better.  Oh well, we all have to go some day. Everything is different once you know for sure where you are headed. In the meantime, the only way to know if there's a problem is to constantly monitor your surroundings. I suggest an audible analyzer and some Swiss Shield for starters. When suspicious pulses coming from the sky are detected you will have a place to retreat. Strenuous workouts have also helped the chance of survival. 

Al


________________________________
 From: Stephanie Smith <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File
 


 
Not wanting to sound all conspiracy theorist Patricia, but I agree with your thinking - she was outspoken - someone needed to be and she was and did it well - no one likes what we are saying about all of this technology because if they had to take our concerns on board then all of this stuff would be stopped in its tracks - think of tobacco, asbestos etc - the world's economy revolves around all of this technology and Lizzie was very good at articulating the problems - there are many ways of silencing someone like that and maybe that is what happened. Lizzie helped many on this site - she went out of her way to do so and spent considerable time and effort doing so - I personally am devastated that she is gone and it feels like there is a big hole left in this group now.

Steph

________________________________
From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013, 17:56
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File


 
i too, stephanie, question that 'diagnosis'.
many people these days who are especially smart
and insightful and aware of real problems and
helpful and kind... are 'suicided'... have you
noticed?  people who challenge the system and
then suddenly drop of heart attacks, develop 'fast
growing cancers', multiple gunshot wounds to the
head, cars exploding in one-car crashes...
i've been following this trend for years.
lizzie was especially intelligent, wise, helpful, aware
of the real problems in the world, and outspoken.
patricia

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

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Hey Al,
 
What has happened to Dr Havas?
 
Pam


________________________________
From: Al Harding <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
I'm suspicious of what has happened to Dr. Magda Havas. It's sad that Lizzie had to go out that way. If you are feeling that bad taking a long drive or walk will help get away from something affecting your mood. Anyone speaking out about this knowledge may have a target on them sooner or later. The more informed the better.  Oh well, we all have to go some day. Everything is different once you know for sure where you are headed. In the meantime, the only way to know if there's a problem is to constantly monitor your surroundings. I suggest an audible analyzer and some Swiss Shield for starters. When suspicious pulses coming from the sky are detected you will have a place to retreat. Strenuous workouts have also helped the chance of survival. 

Al

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <mailto:reader41%40ymail.com>
To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File


 
Not wanting to sound all conspiracy theorist Patricia, but I agree with your thinking - she was outspoken - someone needed to be and she was and did it well - no one likes what we are saying about all of this technology because if they had to take our concerns on board then all of this stuff would be stopped in its tracks - think of tobacco, asbestos etc - the world's economy revolves around all of this technology and Lizzie was very good at articulating the problems - there are many ways of silencing someone like that and maybe that is what happened. Lizzie helped many on this site - she went out of her way to do so and spent considerable time and effort doing so - I personally am devastated that she is gone and it feels like there is a big hole left in this group now.

Steph

________________________________
From: Patricia Robinett <mailto:patricia%40efn.org>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013, 17:56
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
i too, stephanie, question that 'diagnosis'.
many people these days who are especially smart
and insightful and aware of real problems and
helpful and kind... are 'suicided'... have you
noticed? people who challenge the system and
then suddenly drop of heart attacks, develop 'fast
growing cancers', multiple gunshot wounds to the
head, cars exploding in one-car crashes...
i've been following this trend for years.
lizzie was especially intelligent, wise, helpful, aware
of the real problems in the world, and outspoken.
patricia

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

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Ok I just read the piece that came up regarding Dr. Havas.  May she recovery with godspeed!
 
Pam


________________________________
From: Al Harding <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
I'm suspicious of what has happened to Dr. Magda Havas. It's sad that Lizzie had to go out that way. If you are feeling that bad taking a long drive or walk will help get away from something affecting your mood. Anyone speaking out about this knowledge may have a target on them sooner or later. The more informed the better.  Oh well, we all have to go some day. Everything is different once you know for sure where you are headed. In the meantime, the only way to know if there's a problem is to constantly monitor your surroundings. I suggest an audible analyzer and some Swiss Shield for starters. When suspicious pulses coming from the sky are detected you will have a place to retreat. Strenuous workouts have also helped the chance of survival. 

Al

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <mailto:reader41%40ymail.com>
To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File


 
Not wanting to sound all conspiracy theorist Patricia, but I agree with your thinking - she was outspoken - someone needed to be and she was and did it well - no one likes what we are saying about all of this technology because if they had to take our concerns on board then all of this stuff would be stopped in its tracks - think of tobacco, asbestos etc - the world's economy revolves around all of this technology and Lizzie was very good at articulating the problems - there are many ways of silencing someone like that and maybe that is what happened. Lizzie helped many on this site - she went out of her way to do so and spent considerable time and effort doing so - I personally am devastated that she is gone and it feels like there is a big hole left in this group now.

Steph

________________________________
From: Patricia Robinett <mailto:patricia%40efn.org>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013, 17:56
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
i too, stephanie, question that 'diagnosis'.
many people these days who are especially smart
and insightful and aware of real problems and
helpful and kind... are 'suicided'... have you
noticed? people who challenge the system and
then suddenly drop of heart attacks, develop 'fast
growing cancers', multiple gunshot wounds to the
head, cars exploding in one-car crashes...
i've been following this trend for years.
lizzie was especially intelligent, wise, helpful, aware
of the real problems in the world, and outspoken.
patricia

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

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yes, and i think she spoke in front of a local political
group as well, no?  
love, patricia


On Aug 31, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

Here is a recent video of her bucking the system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al1V1KtBPzg



________________________________
 From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File
 


 
Ok I just read the piece that came up regarding Dr. Havas.  May she recovery with godspeed!
 
Pam

________________________________
From: Al Harding <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
I'm suspicious of what has happened to Dr. Magda Havas. It's sad that Lizzie had to go out that way. If you are feeling that bad taking a long drive or walk will help get away from something affecting your mood. Anyone speaking out about this knowledge may have a target on them sooner or later. The more informed the better.  Oh well, we all have to go some day. Everything is different once you know for sure where you are headed. In the meantime, the only way to know if there's a problem is to constantly monitor your surroundings. I suggest an audible analyzer and some Swiss Shield for starters. When suspicious pulses coming from the sky are detected you will have a place to retreat. Strenuous workouts have also helped the chance of survival. 

Al

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <mailto:reader41%40ymail.com>
To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
Not wanting to sound all conspiracy theorist Patricia, but I agree with your thinking - she was outspoken - someone needed to be and she was and did it well - no one likes what we are saying about all of this technology because if they had to take our concerns on board then all of this stuff would be stopped in its tracks - think of tobacco, asbestos etc - the world's economy revolves around all of this technology and Lizzie was very good at articulating the problems - there are many ways of silencing someone like that and maybe that is what happened. Lizzie helped many on this site - she went out of her way to do so and spent considerable time and effort doing so - I personally am devastated that she is gone and it feels like there is a big hole left in this group now.

Steph

________________________________
From: Patricia Robinett <mailto:patricia%40efn.org>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013, 17:56
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
i too, stephanie, question that 'diagnosis'.
many people these days who are especially smart
and insightful and aware of real problems and
helpful and kind... are 'suicided'... have you
noticed? people who challenge the system and
then suddenly drop of heart attacks, develop 'fast
growing cancers', multiple gunshot wounds to the
head, cars exploding in one-car crashes...
i've been following this trend for years.
lizzie was especially intelligent, wise, helpful, aware
of the real problems in the world, and outspoken.
patricia

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks Al.  I hope that people will receive her and believe her. Frankly, what I see are more babies being born and holding cell phones younger and younger.  I basically have accepted the sense of "survival of the fitness."  Some will survive it all with a smile. As much electrical pollution as I sustain daily...they love it! They simply cannot get enough. 


Why should I have an emotional breakdown or political uprising, when "we, the people" are basically driving this thing energetically.  Don't you know, heaven's just around the corner, get it?  I do intend to be here-- though, perhaps not in the front row...


I'm being jaded, right?  Lizzy thought I was jaded.  Personally, I think the masses are jaded.  I'm just going to watch for a while and if any sincere person seeks my attention, I will gladly  offer my support.

The popcorn's just been placed in the popper (Fukushima has pretty much sealed that).  Carbon emissions or not, the farm's growing that methane with every tree they cut down...but that's nothing new.  Got a bunch of people thinking that chem trails are about planet Nibiru.

There's so much hu-hu-hue-eeeee out there, a sane person doesn't know what to believe, So belief is split- diametrically opposed. Most devil may care- less facades, more rare.   The Yin and Yang, win again.  I think I'll go finish this poem and I'll wish any who may or may not get this (physically, not intellectually) a fantastic week!  Be strength, as you ARE.

Blessings!
Pam



________________________________
 From: Al Harding <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File



 
Here is a recent video of her bucking the system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al1V1KtBPzg

________________________________
From: pamela clemonts <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File


 
Ok I just read the piece that came up regarding Dr. Havas.  May she recovery with godspeed!
 
Pam

________________________________
From: Al Harding <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
I'm suspicious of what has happened to Dr. Magda Havas. It's sad that Lizzie had to go out that way. If you are feeling that bad taking a long drive or walk will help get away from something affecting your mood. Anyone speaking out about this knowledge may have a target on them sooner or later. The more informed the better.  Oh well, we all have to go some day. Everything is different once you know for sure where you are headed. In the meantime, the only way to know if there's a problem is to constantly monitor your surroundings. I suggest an audible analyzer and some Swiss Shield for starters. When suspicious pulses coming from the sky are detected you will have a place to retreat. Strenuous workouts have also helped the chance of survival. 

Al

________________________________
From: Stephanie Smith <mailto:reader41%40ymail.com>
To: "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
Not wanting to sound all conspiracy theorist Patricia, but I agree with your thinking - she was outspoken - someone needed to be and she was and did it well - no one likes what we are saying about all of this technology because if they had to take our concerns on board then all of this stuff would be stopped in its tracks - think of tobacco, asbestos etc - the world's economy revolves around all of this technology and Lizzie was very good at articulating the problems - there are many ways of silencing someone like that and maybe that is what happened. Lizzie helped many on this site - she went out of her way to do so and spent considerable time and effort doing so - I personally am devastated that she is gone and it feels like there is a big hole left in this group now.

Steph

________________________________
From: Patricia Robinett <mailto:patricia%40efn.org>
To: mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013, 17:56
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File

 
i too, stephanie, question that 'diagnosis'.
many people these days who are especially smart
and insightful and aware of real problems and
helpful and kind... are 'suicided'... have you
noticed? people who challenge the system and
then suddenly drop of heart attacks, develop 'fast
growing cancers', multiple gunshot wounds to the
head, cars exploding in one-car crashes...
i've been following this trend for years.
lizzie was especially intelligent, wise, helpful, aware
of the real problems in the world, and outspoken.
patricia

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Stephanie Smith wrote:

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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check my poems as an esser - musclebound poet on you tube
 
 
In a message dated 9/1/2013 9:28:10 A.M. Dateline Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Thanks Al.  I hope that people will receive her and believe her.  Frankly,
what I see are more babies being born and holding cell phones younger  and
younger.  I basically have accepted the sense of "survival of the  fitness."  
Some will survive it all with a smile. As much electrical  pollution as I
sustain daily...they love it! They simply cannot get  enough.  

Why should I have an emotional breakdown or political  uprising, when "we,
the people" are basically driving this thing  energetically.  Don't you
know, heaven's just around the corner, get  it?  I do intend to be here--
though, perhaps not in the front  row...

I'm being jaded, right?  Lizzy thought I was jaded.   Personally, I think
the masses are jaded.  I'm just going to watch for a  while and if any
sincere person seeks my attention, I will gladly  offer  my support.

The popcorn's just been placed in the popper (Fukushima has  pretty much
sealed that).  Carbon emissions or not, the farm's growing  that methane with
every tree they cut down...but that's nothing new.  Got  a bunch of people
thinking that chem trails are about planet  Nibiru.

There's so much hu-hu-hue-eeeee out there, a sane person  doesn't know what
to believe, So belief is split- diametrically opposed. Most  devil may
care- less facades, more rare.   The Yin and Yang, win  again.  I think I'll go
finish this poem and I'll wish any who may or may  not get this (physically,
not intellectually) a fantastic week!  Be  strength, as you  ARE.

Blessings!
Pam

________________________________
From:  Al Harding <_iprovedit@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
To: "_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) "
<_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
Sent:  Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New  File



Here is a recent video of her bucking the  system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al1V1KtBPzg

________________________________
From:  pamela clemonts <_adiaha22@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  
Sent:  Saturday, August 31, 2013 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New  File


Ok I just read the piece that came up regarding Dr.  Havas.  May she
recovery with  godspeed!

Pam

________________________________
From: Al  Harding <_iprovedit@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
To: "_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) "
<_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >
Sent:  Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New  File


I'm suspicious of what has happened to Dr. Magda Havas.  It's sad that
Lizzie had to go out that way. If you are feeling that bad  taking a long drive
or walk will help get away from something affecting your  mood. Anyone
speaking out about this knowledge may have a target on them  sooner or later. The
more informed the better.  Oh well, we all have to  go some day. Everything
is different once you know for sure where you are  headed. In the meantime,
the only way to know if there's a problem is to  constantly monitor your
surroundings. I suggest an audible analyzer and some  Swiss Shield for
starters. When suspicious pulses coming from the sky are  detected you will have a
place to retreat. Strenuous workouts have also helped  the chance of  
survival.

Al

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From:  Stephanie Smith <mailto:reader41%40ymail.com>
To:  "mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] New  File


Not wanting to sound all conspiracy theorist Patricia,  but I agree with
your thinking - she was outspoken - someone needed to be and  she was and did
it well - no one likes what we are saying about all of this  technology
because if they had to take our concerns on board then all of this  stuff would
be stopped in its tracks - think of tobacco, asbestos etc - the  world's
economy revolves around all of this technology and Lizzie was very  good at
articulating the problems - there are many ways of silencing someone  like that
and maybe that is what happened. Lizzie helped many on this site -  she
went out of her way to do so and spent considerable time and effort doing  so -
I personally am devastated that she is gone and it feels like there is a  
big hole left in this group  now.

Steph

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From: Patricia  Robinett <mailto:patricia%40efn.org>
To:  mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013,  17:56
Subject: Re: [eSens] New File


i too, stephanie,  question that 'diagnosis'.
many people these days who are especially smart  
and insightful and aware of real problems and
helpful and kind... are  'suicided'... have you
noticed? people who challenge the system and  
then suddenly drop of heart attacks, develop 'fast
growing cancers',  multiple gunshot wounds to the
head, cars exploding in one-car crashes...  
i've been following this trend for years.
lizzie was especially  intelligent, wise, helpful, aware
of the real problems in the world, and  outspoken.
patricia

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Stephanie Smith  wrote:

> Noooooooo i cannot believe that of Lizzie - Lizzie had an  enormous
struggle but she was one of life's fighters - there is no way I can  imagine she
would have done that one
>> seems to know what  happened to her.
>
> The first report I've gotten privately is  that it was suicide. :-(
>
> Marc
>

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