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Need help with adapters

JDark

I am working on putting together a low EMF 12 volt system. As I am going to have to move from my smart meter free place and going into RV very soon.

I am working on how I am going to integrate my "must have"  DC oriented, appliances into this 12v system.  Trying to find adapters for my macbook, piano, DSL modem.  
I found this one for my macbook A 1342:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K6H50IY?colid=2PJ8EJ8SJCG7K&coliid=I1RRPXMECN0699&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl

The other 2 items state on their present adapter, that they have an output of 12v.  I had looked at some things like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-12V-2A-Converter/dp/B000KGKFA4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_23_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1V2AQ25C4M3C5FE3WQXV

Would so appreciate any comments you have on the adapters issue.  Or any cleaner ways to do the adapters?  I just want to make sure that these will not be too "dirty" or if there may be better options.  The MAC plug is tough, as it has that weird plug only for those machines and apple does not make any such device-called the company already.
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RE: Need help with adapters

Fog Top
Please keep us updated on your 12 V system and off-grid living. 
 
I'm sorry that I don't have as answer to your adapter question but wondered if this website about 12 V off-grid might be helpful to you:
 
http://www.eiwellspring.org/offgrid.html    Off Grid Living for Low EMF
 



 

Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 17:30:13 -0700
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Subject: [ES] Need help with adapters


I am working on putting together a low EMF 12 volt system. As I am going to have to move from my smart meter free place and going into RV very soon.

I am working on how I am going to integrate my "must have"  DC oriented, appliances into this 12v system.  Trying to find adapters for my macbook, piano, DSL modem.  
I found this one for my macbook A 1342:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K6H50IY?colid=2PJ8EJ8SJCG7K&coliid=I1RRPXMECN0699&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl

The other 2 items state on their present adapter, that they have an output of 12v.  I had looked at some things like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-12V-2A-Converter/dp/B000KGKFA4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_23_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1V2AQ25C4M3C5FE3WQXV

Would so appreciate any comments you have on the adapters issue.  Or any cleaner ways to do the adapters?  I just want to make sure that these will not be too "dirty" or if there may be better options.  The MAC plug is tough, as it has that weird plug only for those machines and apple does not make any such device-called the company already.



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Re: Need help with adapters

JDark
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The eiwellspring is where I began getting info.  It does not address this issue only changing the plugs for lamps.  It is beyond my budget just to try things haphazardly, as so many have recommended I do and see if they bother me.  Also I do not want something that is going to be a problem making me worse that I can't feel.  So many things I have gotten rid of, after learning they were bad and did not realize til after they were gone that they were a big problem.

Would love to find someone who knows something about these who is willing to let me pick their brain.
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JDark
Quite interesting!  Thanx-I bookmarked it.  She has used 5cm aluminum tape around the cord and adapter.  Further down she has used screen netting around the devices. I suppose just metal screen would do?

So you think I should shield the adapters?

Would the tape be enough by itself?

Also maybe shielding fabric?  
I have some of that around the base of macbook and it stops the 6" of transmission that radiates off it, even though I have all the "junk" disabled. BTW it's across room w/ wired mouse/keyboard and TV is monitor.

Is there a certain type of meter that I should get to test the output of these adapters?
I did find out their range is low:  5khz to 150khz

I spoke to the companies of the adapters [except for the macbook one], they have said that there is not inverter involved and just straight DC to DC and there is naturally some fields, but they do not know how high, they are guessing that they are lower than the ones that come out of the standard transformer AC adapters that we use.  After seeing this link I about want to shield those.LOL!!!!
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charles
You can shield the adapters, but with this special material.
The trick is the width of the material against the opening.
I have excellent results withn this Aaronia A2000 glassfiber material.

Be aware thatw e are talkiong about shielding longitudinal waves, not the measurable transversal waves.

And normal adverse biological frequencies start at 5kHz up to 10MHz, even up to 30MHz.

With a standard Esmog Spion (position NF and extracted telescope antenna) you can measure *dirty air*.
See: www.priggen.com
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JDark
After my last post, I spoke w/ someone who knows a lot.  He said shield w/ wire mesh-cheapest option.  I also had looked at the Aronia prior to that, as I thought that would be good for my application-funny that you have mentioned it.

He also said to use ferite beads on the wire instead of aluminum tape as it's more effective.

I am not good w/ types of electrical/magnetic waves and all the numbers to identify them, but I am slowly learning.  That meter looks great [it's obvious at this point getting a trifield is not going to do it], but out of my budget for now. Do not know if they carry in the US or not, but to find something that does what that does and measures in those ranges-helps to be able to measure, before the damage is done.

I am OK w/ my remote computer keyboard, but there is this thing on the wire that always catches on everything: come to find out this is a built in ferite bead. I notice they are often built in: guess the manuf. know how much these things transmit.LOL!!!!
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charles
I am sorry, but others do not know about longitudinal waves and how to reflect them.
Certainly manufacturors do not know.

There are only two persons in the world that know about it, that is Gebbensleben and me.

The aluminium is more effective than ferrite beads.
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JDark
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Back to square one anyway.  Unless I can get a manufacturer to make ferite beads that block the lower frequency of 5khz to 150khz, the beads will be USELESS.  This according to less emf who sell standard ferite and these are the same as all the major mfg carry.  My issue- DC to DC adapter,  is different than just standard AC adapters due to the frequencies they put out.  The last one I spoke with recommended shielding the whole length of the wire w/ aluminum tape and grounding.

Less emf recommended using 2 shielding materials on the whole length of adapter:  one for magnetic fields and the other for electric fields.  Or second choice would be the tape but it would have to be grounded to say the chassis of the RV.  I do not know if the material would have to be grounded.

I am finding too, that a lot of gospel that is put out by people that are well known in the EMF community is way off as well:  Yesterday I went to buy one of the safe controllers-according to eiwellspring "zero emf" and found it used PWM tech. WOW!  Always pays to believe nothing - question everything. I guess then a smart meter is also "zero emf"-yeah right. What happens is, other ES refer to this stuff and think they are safe, while instigating something to make them all the sicker.  There is truly lack of info for us. eiwellspring mentioned another cheap switch controller that is safe and it is, but it's also junk-I am using my brain to find something of the like that is maybe better quality so I do not have my batteries go bad in 9 mos when the cheap chinese junk controller breaks. So I am saying there is lots of good info there and some bad.  There is not that much info geared in the direction of ES needs, otherwise I could call the companies and they would be able to give me a safe device or sell companion products that would truly shield the device, and that are made to fit the device.  Instead we are left wondering around blind in the dark trying to guess what is going to work and being told that what is not working is safe.

I would like to learn more about the longitudal waves.  Where can I learn more?  Had a hard time w/ the above article, as I do not understand a shread of Dutch and a lot got lost in having it translated.  It's kind of over my head at this point, but always open to learning.  Having a tough time w/ electronics study and solar is a little easier, but it's all so new.  So where to go to learn more?
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Marc Martin
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Longitudinal waves is a rather obscure and controversial subject, so I assume that you could talk to a lot of "experts" who have either never heard of them or don't believe they are an issue.

But as I understand it, longitudinal waves have been discussed as far back as Nikola Tesla.

Marc
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Marc Martin
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On June 24, "Marc Martin [via ES]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> But as I understand it, longitudinal waves have been discussed as far back as Nikola Tesla.

Also, in a lot of websites that discuss EMF protection devices, you may see the words "scalar" or "quantum" that may be used instead of "longitudinal waves".  At least, I think those are intended to be the same thing.

I believe "tachyon" is different, though...?

Marc
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Re: Need help with adapters

charles
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You can learn a lot about longitudinal waves, or Hyperschall as Gebbensleben calls it on my aforementioned Pagina600.html.
Especially the Powerpoints and the Documents.

There is a person in the IT branch, where a number of 4G cells are placed, which she cannot stand.
She asked my advice and I recommended my Pagina600.html.
She followed my advice, and now she is not troubled by the 4G cells anymore.