Natural thyroid help

Hi all,
Did you know that organic Coconut Oil helps to stimulate the Thyroid?
Also there are raw glandulars that help the adrenals, which also ends
up helping the thyroid. Many people have better success when dealing
with thryoid issues, if they support the adrenal glands first. Why? Because
the adrenal glands make the hormones that are responsible for the Thyroid
hormones being able to be metabolized by the body. Often, those who are
"hypo-thyroid" try taking thyroid supplements (ARmour/ ect) and find that
this ends up making them feel worse. The reason is: the adrenals are so
low, they are not making enough of the hormones that are responsible for
metabolizing thryoid hormones, so the T-3 and T-4's end up piling up in
the body, and the person feels like crap. By supporting the adrenals first,
this helps the adrenals make enough of hte hormones so that thryoid
support can actually "be" metabolized by the thryoid. As for Licorice,
although this is an old time remedy, sometimes in cases of severe
adrenal burn-out, Licorice can end up OvER stimulating the adrenals,
making the problem worse.
 
Two good sources of raw glandulars are:
 

Organs & Glands


www.drrons.com/grassfed-new-zeland...
 
Thyroid supplements and Adrenal Support the Natural Way | Nutri ...

 

www.nutri-meds.com/
 
And Holy Basil Tulsi, either the tea or the capsules helps support
the adrenal glands.



Organic Tulsi Tea - The Healthiest ... - Organic India - Mercola  

organicindia.mercola.com/tulsi-tea.aspx
 
Organic India also makes a Holy BAsil capsule.
Blessings,
Lizzie
P.S.
There are other companies who sell the raw glandulars, these are just suggestions.
Just make sure they are coming from "clean" sources.      

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> Many people have better success when dealing
> with thryoid issues, if they support the adrenal glands first.

Yes, in my own experience, it seems like you need to figure
out which of your glands is the weaker -- the adrenals or
the thyroid.  Like you say, if you support just the thyroid,
then it seems like the adrenal glands can't take it.  However,
the reverse doesn't seem to be true (at least for me).

I've certainly seen benefits (short-term benefits) from
taking glandular products.  However, I had very negative
reactions to both coconut oil and holy basil, so I'd
recommend that people be careful with those... they may
end up causing more harm than good.

Marc

Hi, Marc,

What kind of negative reactions did you have to coconut oil and holy basil, if you don't mind my asking?  Just curious. 

Diane

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      > Many people have better success when dealing

> with thryoid issues, if they support the adrenal glands first.



Yes, in my own experience, it seems like you need to figure

out which of your glands is the weaker -- the adrenals or

the thyroid.  Like you say, if you support just the thyroid,

then it seems like the adrenal glands can't take it.  However,

the reverse doesn't seem to be true (at least for me).



I've certainly seen benefits (short-term benefits) from

taking glandular products.  However, I had very negative

reactions to both coconut oil and holy basil, so I'd

recommend that people be careful with those... they may

end up causing more harm than good.



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 










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> What kind of negative reactions did you have to coconut oil
> and holy basil, if you don't mind my asking?  Just curious.

The coconut oil, oddly enough, was making my legs increasingly
weaker over time.  If I kept taking it, I would have ended
up in a wheelchair, I think!  I think I get a similar
problem with too much of any saturated fat (milk, butter,
etc.), but I don't really eat/drink much of that on a
regular basis.

Holy Basil caused me the same symptoms that I
would normally attribute to mercury poisoining.  I can't
remember what exactly those all were, but I
remember making that connection at the time.  I've
read that Holy Basil contains mercury, and also
that it's a remedy for mercury poisoning, but in
my case I just had to stay away from it.

(and in the case of Holy Basil, I tried a variety
of brands and forms before giving up on it entirely)

Marc

Interesting, Marc!

I have never taken holy basil, but eat lots of basil which I grow as a seasoning herb.  I do regularly take coconut oil.  It helps me with about 8 different health issues, but I thought I'd ask just in case I needed to be aware of any down sides.  ;) 

Interesting that you have problems with butter and sat fats, as well as coconut oil!  My body loves sat fats.  My sat fat profile is a tad high right now, but it always lowers my cholesterol when it goes up.  I, oddly enough, cannot lose weight without raising my sat fat profile!  My nutritionist said he thought toxins won't leave my fat deposits without enough sat fat circulating to attract them and carry them out.  And my body refuses to use any fat deposits which contain toxins. 

For you, it sounds almost the opposite--like your body doesn't want you pulling toxins with sat fats.  Are you really thin? 

Thanks Marc,
Diane

--- On Tue, 9/6/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Natural thyroid help
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      > What kind of negative reactions did you have to coconut oil

> and holy basil, if you don't mind my asking?  Just curious.



The coconut oil, oddly enough, was making my legs increasingly

weaker over time.  If I kept taking it, I would have ended

up in a wheelchair, I think!  I think I get a similar

problem with too much of any saturated fat (milk, butter,

etc.), but I don't really eat/drink much of that on a

regular basis.



Holy Basil caused me the same symptoms that I

would normally attribute to mercury poisoining.  I can't

remember what exactly those all were, but I

remember making that connection at the time.  I've

read that Holy Basil contains mercury, and also

that it's a remedy for mercury poisoning, but in

my case I just had to stay away from it.



(and in the case of Holy Basil, I tried a variety

of brands and forms before giving up on it entirely)



Marc



   
     

   
   


 



 










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Mark & Dianne,


The fat discussion  is nteresting. I have an apt to find out if I have a problem digesting phytanic acid. A fat in milk,  beef, lamb & all fish. They wonder if it's in green plants, as it has something to do with chhloyphil  I never fish & refused milk as a child.

Maybe you should look into the test. I had burning from salmon & spinach in the spring that has repeated itself from fish & beef. My son has burning when he eats beef.

We got results of a new food allergy test for our son. He's most allergic to tuna, highest phytanic acid.Interesting he's alergic to all fish & meat. He's lucky we took milk out of his diet at 2.

 We both have some bone abnormalities. For me it's many bone spurs & bad posture. He has bad posture & hypotonia, low muscle tone. His orthopedic told me I have a degree of hypotonia too.

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/refsum/refsum.htm

http://www.refsumdisease.org/patients/dietindex.shtml

The treatment for too much phytanic acid is filtering the blood if needed then diet. 

A high-calorie diet is necessary to avoid mobilization of stored
    lipid, including-phytanic acid, into the plasma. Postoperative care requires
    parenteral nutrition.
 

  Kathy



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I do regularly take coconut oil.  It helps me with about 8 different health issues, but I thought I'd ask just in case I needed to be aware of any down sides.  ;) 



Interesting that you have problems with butter and sat fats, as well as coconut oil!  My body loves sat fats.  My sat fat profile is a tad high right now, but it always lowers my cholesterol when it goes up.  I, oddly enough, cannot lose weight without raising my sat fat profile!  My nutritionist said he thought toxins won't leave my fat deposits without enough sat fat circulating to attract them and carry them out.  And my body refuses to use any fat deposits which contain toxins. 



For you, it sounds almost the opposite--like your body doesn't want you pulling toxins with sat fats.  Are you really thin? 



Thanks Marc,

Diane



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The coconut oil, oddly enough, was making my legs increasingly



weaker over time.  If I kept taking it, I would have ended



up in a wheelchair, I think!  I think I get a similar



problem with too much of any saturated fat (milk, butter,



etc.), but I don't really eat/drink much of that on a



regular basis.








 



 










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> I, oddly enough, cannot lose weight without raising my sat fat profile!
> For you, it sounds almost the opposite--like your body doesn't want you
> pulling toxins with sat fats.  Are you really thin?

Not at the moment... :-)

However, at the time I was experimenting with coconut oil, I might
have been thin-ish.

Some alternative health experts claim that eating healthy
saturated fats will help you lose weight, but this has not the
case for me.  Coconut oil, raw milk, raw milk cheese all cause
me obvious, immediate weight gain.

Marc

I'm pretty sure holy basil and basil are quite different different.  Holy basil is also known as tulsi.  You can by tulsi tea which is very good.

As far as natural thyroid help.  I'm using both selenium and kelp.  I use kelp instead of using iodine directly.  Given the state of the ocean recently kelp may no longer be the best choice.  I do take armour which is a glandular but I have been able to significantly reduce it once I started taking selenium and kelp.  Hope to get off it entirely.   I also do a great deal to support my adrenals which are also starting to improve.   Nancy

p.s. sorry I haven't introduced myself to the group yet.  I am still trying to figure out just how significant my ES is.  I didn't feel a health difference when we lost electricity for 2 days but I did feel stress for a few hours when the electricity came back on.

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Hi Diane
 
I owe you a reply to other mail you have sent but was just on here for a brief moment and saw this - I too have had negative reactions to coconut oil and basil - although mine were quite specific and might differ from Marc's - they seemed to hit my gallbladder and liver. I started using coconut oil in cooking - not a great deal of it - about last November and I think it gummed up my liver which in turn hit my GB and now any time I take any coconut whatsoever - even the smallest of amounts - my GB goes into painful spasm and I have to spend days literally working at it to get it to tamp down - needless to say I no longer touch coconut in any form [even the milk which I love and was using having gone gf and cf (woohoo!!!) and have had to stop.
 
best wishes
 
Steph
 
 

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Hi, Marc,

What kind of negative reactions did you have to coconut oil and holy basil, if you don't mind my asking?  Just curious. 

Diane

--- On Thu, 9/1/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Natural thyroid help
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 12:10 PM

 

> Many people have better success when dealing

> with thryoid issues, if they support the adrenal glands first.

Yes, in my own experience, it seems like you need to figure

out which of your glands is the weaker -- the adrenals or

the thyroid.  Like you say, if you support just the thyroid,

then it seems like the adrenal glands can't take it.  However,

the reverse doesn't seem to be true (at least for me).

I've certainly seen benefits (short-term benefits) from

taking glandular products.  However, I had very negative

reactions to both coconut oil and holy basil, so I'd

recommend that people be careful with those... they may

end up causing more harm than good.

Marc

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Hi Marc and Diane
 
I thought it was the sat fat aspect which was causing me the problems too - so maybe that is it - the only oil I am currently using now is extra virgin olive (with some ground flax seeds on my cereal) and even that can cause me problems despite its reputed health benefits. Meantime I am just trying as hard as I can to work on my liver and GB - I am eating as much raw beet as possible and taking beet caps, but just read on Mercola that I could be low on taurine and he recommends taurine in combination with beet caps so I will try that.
 
best wishes
 
Steph

From: Evie <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011, 21:17
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Interesting, Marc!

I have never taken holy basil, but eat lots of basil which I grow as a seasoning herb.  I do regularly take coconut oil.  It helps me with about 8 different health issues, but I thought I'd ask just in case I needed to be aware of any down sides.  ;) 

Interesting that you have problems with butter and sat fats, as well as coconut oil!  My body loves sat fats.  My sat fat profile is a tad high right now, but it always lowers my cholesterol when it goes up.  I, oddly enough, cannot lose weight without raising my sat fat profile!  My nutritionist said he thought toxins won't leave my fat deposits without enough sat fat circulating to attract them and carry them out.  And my body refuses to use any fat deposits which contain toxins. 

For you, it sounds almost the opposite--like your body doesn't want you pulling toxins with sat fats.  Are you really thin? 

Thanks Marc,
Diane

--- On Tue, 9/6/11, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Natural thyroid help
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2011, 2:46 PM

 

> What kind of negative reactions did you have to coconut oil

> and holy basil, if you don't mind my asking?  Just curious.

The coconut oil, oddly enough, was making my legs increasingly

weaker over time.  If I kept taking it, I would have ended

up in a wheelchair, I think!  I think I get a similar

problem with too much of any saturated fat (milk, butter,

etc.), but I don't really eat/drink much of that on a

regular basis.

Holy Basil caused me the same symptoms that I

would normally attribute to mercury poisoining.  I can't

remember what exactly those all were, but I

remember making that connection at the time.  I've

read that Holy Basil contains mercury, and also

that it's a remedy for mercury poisoning, but in

my case I just had to stay away from it.

(and in the case of Holy Basil, I tried a variety

of brands and forms before giving up on it entirely)

Marc

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