Hi Steph,
Glad you like the site! It's now www.WaveGoodbye.info <http://www.wavegoodbye.info/> (get it?!?) What model is your dad's old hub? probably a BT Voyager 220V - it's fine, I have used it - it's NOT wifi, only disadvantage really is that it only has one network port, whereas the home hub 3.0 has 4, but if you only want to ever connect one computer, that would be fine (I connected mine into a network hub to be able to then network to more computers). But if you do get a Home Hub 3.0 you might as well use that as already has the four network ports - so long as you follow my instructions for disabling the wifi: http://wavegoodbye.info/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html No, the home hub 3 will NOT cause problems because of next door's DECT phone, but of course next door's DECT phone (and home hub if the have one) may well cause problems, especially if the walls are not thick or insulated with foil -backed cavity wall blocks. Did you mean that they are in a separate house 2.5m away, or in the same house, but about 2.5m away from you? Are you being affected already? Cheers John _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Stephanie Smith Sent: 13 June 2011 16:52 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed Hi john Thanks for your help and for sending me these links - your site is great! I am wondering about 2 things - firstly my Dad has an old BT ADSL router which they supplied him with when he first got his broadband and then they upgraded him to a newer ADSL version, but didn't take away the old one - do you think would I be able to use that old ADSL if I got BT broadband [and just never bother with their home hub which they will send with the package? secondly - [if I can't use my Dad's old ADSL router and have to use their home hub - even the 3.0 version] while I don;t have a dect phone my next door neighbour (whose house is about 2.5 m away from mine) does have a dect phone - would this mean that the 3.0 BT hub [even with wireless disabled] would be likely to cause me problems? I am sorry if I am asking what are to anyone else very obvious questions, but I am a total tech novice and whatever help or advicwe you can offer would be grwatly appreciated. Many thanks Steph ________________________________ From: John Jamieson <[hidden email] <mailto:john%40theomegashift.com> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 10:34:41 Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed Hello Steph Good news for you! I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base station built in. I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here: http://theomegaway.com/hub I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true - AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector. AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here: http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best to get them to confirm) Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too! You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4 network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several computers - more about all that, and more on the home page: http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/> If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on that website contact page! All the best John Jamieson _____ From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Stephanie Smith Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24 To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed Hello everyone Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now but I haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet connection and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my only problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I had hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager 220v) which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much pain but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from them I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my health concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he prob thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the USB cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and there would not then be any wireless waves in my house. I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering can any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has given me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best to get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives?? I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with elsewhere on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive. My best to you all Steph [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I like this website John. I will forward to others. Loni
--- On Mon, 6/13/11, John Jamieson <[hidden email]> wrote: From: John Jamieson <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 3:38 PM Hi Steph, Glad you like the site! It's now www.WaveGoodbye.info <http://www.wavegoodbye.info/> (get it?!?) What model is your dad's old hub? probably a BT Voyager 220V - it's fine, I have used it - it's NOT wifi, only disadvantage really is that it only has one network port, whereas the home hub 3.0 has 4, but if you only want to ever connect one computer, that would be fine (I connected mine into a network hub to be able to then network to more computers). But if you do get a Home Hub 3.0 you might as well use that as already has the four network ports - so long as you follow my instructions for disabling the wifi: http://wavegoodbye.info/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html No, the home hub 3 will NOT cause problems because of next door's DECT phone, but of course next door's DECT phone (and home hub if the have one) may well cause problems, especially if the walls are not thick or insulated with foil -backed cavity wall blocks. Did you mean that they are in a separate house 2.5m away, or in the same house, but about 2.5m away from you? Are you being affected already? Cheers John _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Stephanie Smith Sent: 13 June 2011 16:52 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed Hi john Thanks for your help and for sending me these links - your site is great! I am wondering about 2 things - firstly my Dad has an old BT ADSL router which they supplied him with when he first got his broadband and then they upgraded him to a newer ADSL version, but didn't take away the old one - do you think would I be able to use that old ADSL if I got BT broadband [and just never bother with their home hub which they will send with the package? secondly - [if I can't use my Dad's old ADSL router and have to use their home hub - even the 3.0 version] while I don;t have a dect phone my next door neighbour (whose house is about 2.5 m away from mine) does have a dect phone - would this mean that the 3.0 BT hub [even with wireless disabled] would be likely to cause me problems? I am sorry if I am asking what are to anyone else very obvious questions, but I am a total tech novice and whatever help or advicwe you can offer would be grwatly appreciated. Many thanks Steph ________________________________ From: John Jamieson <[hidden email] <mailto:john%40theomegashift.com> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 10:34:41 Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed Hello Steph Good news for you! I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base station built in. I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here: http://theomegaway.com/hub I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true - AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector. AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here: http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best to get them to confirm) Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too! You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4 network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several computers - more about all that, and more on the home page: http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/> If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on that website contact page! All the best John Jamieson _____ From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Stephanie Smith Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24 To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed Hello everyone Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now but I haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet connection and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my only problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I had hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager 220v) which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much pain but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from them I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my health concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he prob thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the USB cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and there would not then be any wireless waves in my house. I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering can any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has given me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best to get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives?? I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with elsewhere on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive. My best to you all Steph [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Thanks for the link, the futons look good
Steve --- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@...> wrote: > > Yeah, it looks like a cotton-wool, or all-wool futon/mattress set-up is the direction I have to go in, too. I'm trying to make some moves in that direction. (I have to get on the ball: the return period for the latex mattress will expire in a couple of weeks.) Someone provided a great link to a site earlier in this thread (thanks!) - I'm going to try to check it out. > > http://www.downtoearthhome.com/Products/?category=mattresses&product=futons > > Here are a couple of links to sites that sell all-wool mattresses: > > http://www.surroundewe.com/Products.asp?d=0&ID=8 > > http://www.shepherdsdream.com/p-25-all-natural-5-wool-mattress.aspx > > > ~Svetaswan > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote: > > > > Latex smells bother me also. That's why I think the only safe mattress would be the cotton organic futon plus wool so fire retardant won't be needed. There are also organic mattresses out there but they have metal in them or latex. > > Steve > > > > --- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just an addendum to this situation: > > > > > > The U.S. government just declared styrene to be a "likely human carcinogen": > > > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/health/11carcinogen.html?_r=1 > > > > > > The synthetic portion of a blended Talalay latex mattress is comprised of something called "styrene-butadiene" latex foam. > > > > > > If I didn't get the hints before that this mattress is unhealthy - at least for me - then this timely news seems to seal it. > > > > > > I can't win for losing: I thought I was getting myself into a much healthier situation by replacing my innerspring mattress with this latex - but at this point, it looks like I swapped one poison for another. > > > > > > I somehow thought that - even though this latex was mostly synthetic - that the synthetic chemicals would be inert & stable, and I wouldn't be affected. But as my previous posts make clear - I've had quite a reaction to the fumes from this mattress. (Although the reaction waxes and wanes - for some reason, my symptoms have been relatively-calm these past several days.) So far, at least - this latex seems to be an unstable substance that (slowly) breaks down - perhaps this is why/how the fumes are released. It doesn't exactly seem out-of-the-question that I'm breathing in & absorbing styrene (or its breakdown-product). > > > > > > From my point-of-view, I was hoodwinked - swayed by the claims from these retailers and manufacturers that this is a safe and healthy option. It may or may not be "safe" for the average adult - maybe the concentrations of these volatile emissions are actually quite low. But my personal experiences have given me enough reason to doubt whether retailers/manufacturers are being entirely upfront about everything. > > > > > > The "100% natural" latex mattresses may be (much) less of a risk for most people - but the odor of 100% natural still seems quite strong to me...& I just don't think it's healthy for me, personally to be sleeping on something that emits that type of odor. I have a history of a type of pica that involves a compulsion to sniff various inhalants - and the smell of latex - especially 100% natural latex - reminds me very much of the type of odors/fumes that I have shown an "addiction" to (although I have shown much stronger cravings for the fumes from rubbing alcohol & nail-polish remover). At the very least, having a latex mattress is like inviting into my bedroom a large source of something I can use to satisfy my pica-like cravings whenever they flare up - perpetuating that unhealthy tendency. > > > > > > That's not to say that everyone will experience the odor of latex the same way - Marc's posts here, for one - show that people vary in their sensitivity levels. > > > > > > ~Svetaswan > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've only looked a little bit at cotton/wool futons. It's difficult to switch directions and start all over again, for one - and to look at cotton/wool mattresses would be sort-of like starting from scratch. Heck, it took me a long time to get enough energy and initiative to buy the latex mattress...so it's a real bummer that the ordeal isn't over. > > > > > > > > And I'm concerned about the long-term comfort & support that a cotton/wool futon would offer - especially for someone with my physical dimensions. > > > > > > > > I wonder what kind of foundation those require? I wonder if a wood-slat foundation (which is what is often used for latex mattresses) is sufficient? > > > > > > > > But cotton/wool may actually be the wisest option, or it may turn out to be the only option. From what I've learned about latex mattresses, it's possible that all of them may give me problems to a certain degree. > > > > > > > > I've put in an inquiry to foamorder - hopefully I didn't reveal too much, and they aren't scared away by my questions! > > > > > > > > ~Svetaswan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, I recently realized that Marc's and Bill's latex could have come from a different manufacturer, > > > > > > and it could have something to do with why they have had a different experience than I've had. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that "foamorder.com" latex topper I bought using the "Natural Sense" latex says it uses a Dunlop process, without any toxic additives, so it is definitely different from what you've got. > > > > > > > > > > It does however say that this latex will fall apart rather quickly if "exposed to the elements" (rain?), although I have not noticed it falling apart in my bedroom... :-) > > > > > > > > > > Also, have you looked at a cotton futon as an alternative to latex? > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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________________________________ From: John Jamieson <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 23:38:29 Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed Hi Steph, Glad you like the site! It's now www.WaveGoodbye.info <http://www.wavegoodbye.info/> (get it?!?) What model is your dad's old hub? probably a BT Voyager 220V - it's fine, I have used it - it's NOT wifi, only disadvantage really is that it only has one network port, whereas the home hub 3.0 has 4, but if you only want to ever connect one computer, that would be fine (I connected mine into a network hub to be able to then network to more computers). But if you do get a Home Hub 3.0 you might as well use that as already has the four network ports - so long as you follow my instructions for disabling the wifi: http://wavegoodbye.info/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html No, the home hub 3 will NOT cause problems because of next door's DECT phone, but of course next door's DECT phone (and home hub if the have one) may well cause problems, especially if the walls are not thick or insulated with foil -backed cavity wall blocks. Did you mean that they are in a separate house 2.5m away, or in the same house, but about 2.5m away from you? Are you being affected already? Cheers John _____ From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Stephanie Smith Sent: 13 June 2011 16:52 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed Hi john Thanks for your help and for sending me these links - your site is great! I am wondering about 2 things - firstly my Dad has an old BT ADSL router which they supplied him with when he first got his broadband and then they upgraded him to a newer ADSL version, but didn't take away the old one - do you think would I be able to use that old ADSL if I got BT broadband [and just never bother with their home hub which they will send with the package? secondly - [if I can't use my Dad's old ADSL router and have to use their home hub - even the 3.0 version] while I don;t have a dect phone my next door neighbour (whose house is about 2.5 m away from mine) does have a dect phone - would this mean that the 3.0 BT hub [even with wireless disabled] would be likely to cause me problems? I am sorry if I am asking what are to anyone else very obvious questions, but I am a total tech novice and whatever help or advicwe you can offer would be grwatly appreciated. Many thanks Steph ________________________________ From: John Jamieson <[hidden email] <mailto:john%40theomegashift.com> > To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 10:34:41 Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed Hello Steph Good news for you! I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base station built in. I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here: http://theomegaway.com/hub I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true - AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector. AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here: http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best to get them to confirm) Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too! You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4 network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several computers - more about all that, and more on the home page: http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/> If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on that website contact page! All the best John Jamieson _____ From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Stephanie Smith Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24 To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed Hello everyone Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now but I haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet connection and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my only problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I had hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager 220v) which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much pain but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from them I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my health concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he prob thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the USB cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and there would not then be any wireless waves in my house. I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering can any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has given me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best to get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives?? I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with elsewhere on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive. My best to you all Steph [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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