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Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Jomega
Hi Steph,

 

Glad you like the site!

 

It's now www.WaveGoodbye.info <http://www.wavegoodbye.info/>  (get it?!?)

 

What model is your dad's old hub? probably a BT Voyager 220V - it's fine, I
have used it - it's NOT wifi, only disadvantage really is that it only has
one network port, whereas the home hub 3.0 has 4, but if you only want to
ever connect one computer, that would be fine (I connected mine into a
network hub to be able to then network to more computers).

But if you do get a Home Hub 3.0 you might as well use that as already has
the four network ports - so long as you follow my instructions for disabling
the wifi:
http://wavegoodbye.info/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

 

No, the home hub 3 will NOT cause problems because of next door's DECT
phone, but of course next door's DECT phone (and home hub if the have one)
may well cause problems, especially if the walls are not thick or insulated
with foil -backed cavity wall blocks. Did you mean that they are in a
separate house 2.5m away, or in the same house, but about 2.5m away from
you?

 

Are you being affected already?

 

Cheers

John

 

 

  _____  

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Stephanie Smith
Sent: 13 June 2011 16:52
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

 

 

Hi john

Thanks for your help and for sending me these links - your site is great!

I am wondering about 2 things - firstly my Dad has an old BT ADSL router
which
they supplied him with when he first got his broadband and then they
upgraded
him to a newer ADSL version, but didn't take away the old one - do you think

would I be able to use that old ADSL if I got BT broadband [and just never
bother with their home hub which they will send with the package? secondly -
[if
I can't use my Dad's  old ADSL router and have to use their home hub - even
the
3.0 version] while I don;t have a dect phone my next door neighbour (whose
house
is about 2.5 m away from mine) does have a dect phone - would this mean that
the
3.0 BT hub [even with wireless disabled] would be likely to cause me
problems?

I am sorry if I am asking what are to anyone else very obvious questions,
but I
am a total tech novice and whatever help or advicwe you can offer would be
grwatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Steph

 

________________________________
From: John Jamieson <[hidden email]
<mailto:john%40theomegashift.com> >
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 10:34:41
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

 
Hello Steph

Good news for you!

I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here
before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT
phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been
delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base
station built in.

I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here:

http://theomegaway.com/hub

I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true -
AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does
turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector.

AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable
wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here:

http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they
send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best
to get them to confirm)

Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too!

You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4
network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several
computers - more about all that, and more on the home page:
http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/>

If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on
that website contact page!

All the best

John Jamieson

_____

From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
Stephanie Smith
Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello everyone

Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now
but I
haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet
connection
and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept

despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my
only
problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I
had
hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager
220v)
which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much
pain
but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from
them
I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my
health
concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he
prob
thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the
USB
cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would
effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and
there
would not then be any wireless waves in my house.

I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering
can
any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has
given
me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best
to
get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives??

I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with
elsewhere
on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very
limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive.

My best to you all

Steph






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Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Loni Rosser
I like this website John. I will forward to others. Loni

--- On Mon, 6/13/11, John Jamieson <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: John Jamieson <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 3:38 PM


 



Hi Steph,

Glad you like the site!

It's now www.WaveGoodbye.info <http://www.wavegoodbye.info/> (get it?!?)

What model is your dad's old hub? probably a BT Voyager 220V - it's fine, I
have used it - it's NOT wifi, only disadvantage really is that it only has
one network port, whereas the home hub 3.0 has 4, but if you only want to
ever connect one computer, that would be fine (I connected mine into a
network hub to be able to then network to more computers).

But if you do get a Home Hub 3.0 you might as well use that as already has
the four network ports - so long as you follow my instructions for disabling
the wifi:
http://wavegoodbye.info/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

No, the home hub 3 will NOT cause problems because of next door's DECT
phone, but of course next door's DECT phone (and home hub if the have one)
may well cause problems, especially if the walls are not thick or insulated
with foil -backed cavity wall blocks. Did you mean that they are in a
separate house 2.5m away, or in the same house, but about 2.5m away from
you?

Are you being affected already?

Cheers

John

_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Stephanie Smith
Sent: 13 June 2011 16:52
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hi john

Thanks for your help and for sending me these links - your site is great!

I am wondering about 2 things - firstly my Dad has an old BT ADSL router
which
they supplied him with when he first got his broadband and then they
upgraded
him to a newer ADSL version, but didn't take away the old one - do you think

would I be able to use that old ADSL if I got BT broadband [and just never
bother with their home hub which they will send with the package? secondly -
[if
I can't use my Dad's old ADSL router and have to use their home hub - even
the
3.0 version] while I don;t have a dect phone my next door neighbour (whose
house
is about 2.5 m away from mine) does have a dect phone - would this mean that
the
3.0 BT hub [even with wireless disabled] would be likely to cause me
problems?

I am sorry if I am asking what are to anyone else very obvious questions,
but I
am a total tech novice and whatever help or advicwe you can offer would be
grwatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Steph

________________________________
From: John Jamieson <[hidden email]
<mailto:john%40theomegashift.com> >
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 10:34:41
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello Steph

Good news for you!

I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here
before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT
phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been
delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base
station built in.

I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here:

http://theomegaway.com/hub

I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true -
AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does
turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector.

AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable
wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here:

http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they
send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best
to get them to confirm)

Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too!

You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4
network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several
computers - more about all that, and more on the home page:
http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/>

If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on
that website contact page!

All the best

John Jamieson

_____

From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
Stephanie Smith
Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello everyone

Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now
but I
haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet
connection
and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept

despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my
only
problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I
had
hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager
220v)
which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much
pain
but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from
them
I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my
health
concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he
prob
thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the
USB
cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would
effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and
there
would not then be any wireless waves in my house.

I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering
can
any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has
given
me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best
to
get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives??

I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with
elsewhere
on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very
limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive.

My best to you all

Steph

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Re: mattress question (styrene declared a human carcinogen)

steve
In reply to this post by Svetaswan-2
Thanks for the link, the futons look good
Steve

--- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@...> wrote:

>
> Yeah, it looks like a cotton-wool, or all-wool futon/mattress set-up is the direction I have to go in, too.  I'm trying to make some moves in that direction. (I have to get on the ball: the return period for the latex mattress will expire in a couple of weeks.)  Someone provided a great link to a site earlier in this thread (thanks!) - I'm going to try to check it out.
>
> http://www.downtoearthhome.com/Products/?category=mattresses&product=futons
>
> Here are a couple of links to sites that sell all-wool mattresses:
>
> http://www.surroundewe.com/Products.asp?d=0&ID=8
>
> http://www.shepherdsdream.com/p-25-all-natural-5-wool-mattress.aspx
>
>
> ~Svetaswan
>
>
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], "torch369" <torch369@> wrote:
> >
> > Latex smells bother me also. That's why I think the only safe mattress would be the cotton organic futon plus wool so fire retardant won't be needed. There are also organic mattresses out there but they have metal in them or latex.
> > Steve
> >
> > --- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just an addendum to this situation:
> > >
> > > The U.S. government just declared styrene to be a "likely human carcinogen":
> > >
> > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/health/11carcinogen.html?_r=1
> > >
> > > The synthetic portion of a blended Talalay latex mattress is comprised of something called "styrene-butadiene" latex foam.
> > >
> > > If I didn't get the hints before that this mattress is unhealthy - at least for me - then this timely news seems to seal it.
> > >
> > > I can't win for losing: I thought I was getting myself into a much healthier situation by replacing my innerspring mattress with this latex - but at this point, it looks like I swapped one poison for another.
> > >
> > > I somehow thought that - even though this latex was mostly synthetic - that the synthetic chemicals would be inert & stable, and I wouldn't be affected.  But as my previous posts make clear - I've had quite a reaction to the fumes from this mattress. (Although the reaction waxes and wanes - for some reason, my symptoms have been relatively-calm these past several days.)  So far, at least - this latex seems to be an unstable substance that (slowly) breaks down - perhaps this is why/how the fumes are released.  It doesn't exactly seem out-of-the-question that I'm breathing in & absorbing styrene (or its breakdown-product).
> > >
> > > From my point-of-view, I was hoodwinked - swayed by the claims from these retailers and manufacturers that this is a safe and healthy option.  It may or may not be "safe" for the average adult - maybe the concentrations of these volatile emissions are actually quite low. But my personal experiences have given me enough reason to doubt whether retailers/manufacturers are being entirely upfront about everything.
> > >
> > > The "100% natural" latex mattresses may be (much) less of a risk for most people - but the odor of 100% natural still seems quite strong to me...& I just don't think it's healthy for me, personally to be sleeping on something that emits that type of odor.  I have a history of a type of pica that involves a compulsion to sniff various inhalants - and the smell of latex - especially 100% natural latex - reminds me very much of the type of odors/fumes that I have shown an "addiction" to (although I have shown much stronger cravings for the fumes from rubbing alcohol & nail-polish remover). At the very least, having a latex mattress is like inviting into my bedroom a large source of something I can use to satisfy my pica-like cravings whenever they flare up - perpetuating that unhealthy tendency.
> > >
> > > That's not to say that everyone will experience the odor of latex the same way - Marc's posts here, for one - show that people vary in their sensitivity levels.
> > >
> > > ~Svetaswan
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've only looked a little bit at cotton/wool futons.  It's difficult to switch directions and start all over again, for one - and to look at cotton/wool mattresses would be sort-of like starting from scratch.  Heck, it took me a long time to get enough energy and initiative to buy the latex mattress...so it's a real bummer that the ordeal isn't over.
> > > >
> > > > And I'm concerned about the long-term comfort & support that a cotton/wool futon would offer - especially for someone with my physical dimensions.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder what kind of foundation those require?  I wonder if a wood-slat foundation (which is what is often used for latex mattresses) is sufficient?
> > > >
> > > > But cotton/wool may actually be the wisest option, or it may turn out to be the only option.  From what I've learned about latex mattresses, it's possible that all of them may give me problems to a certain degree.
> > > >
> > > > I've put in an inquiry to foamorder - hopefully I didn't reveal too much, and they aren't scared away by my questions!
> > > >
> > > > ~Svetaswan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, I recently realized that Marc's and Bill's latex could have come from a different manufacturer,
> > > > > > and it could have something to do with why they have had a different experience than I've had.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, that "foamorder.com" latex topper I bought using the "Natural Sense" latex says it uses a Dunlop process, without any toxic additives, so it is definitely different from what you've got.
> > > > >
> > > > > It does however say that this latex will fall apart rather quickly if "exposed to the elements" (rain?), although I have not noticed it falling apart in my bedroom... :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, have you looked at a cotton futon as an alternative to latex?
> > > > >
> > > > > Marc
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Steph Smith
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________________________________
From: John Jamieson <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 23:38:29
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

 
Hi Steph,

Glad you like the site!

It's now www.WaveGoodbye.info <http://www.wavegoodbye.info/> (get it?!?)

What model is your dad's old hub? probably a BT Voyager 220V - it's fine, I
have used it - it's NOT wifi, only disadvantage really is that it only has
one network port, whereas the home hub 3.0 has 4, but if you only want to
ever connect one computer, that would be fine (I connected mine into a
network hub to be able to then network to more computers).

But if you do get a Home Hub 3.0 you might as well use that as already has
the four network ports - so long as you follow my instructions for disabling
the wifi:
http://wavegoodbye.info/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

No, the home hub 3 will NOT cause problems because of next door's DECT
phone, but of course next door's DECT phone (and home hub if the have one)
may well cause problems, especially if the walls are not thick or insulated
with foil -backed cavity wall blocks. Did you mean that they are in a
separate house 2.5m away, or in the same house, but about 2.5m away from
you?

Are you being affected already?

Cheers

John

_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Stephanie Smith
Sent: 13 June 2011 16:52
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hi john

Thanks for your help and for sending me these links - your site is great!

I am wondering about 2 things - firstly my Dad has an old BT ADSL router
which
they supplied him with when he first got his broadband and then they
upgraded
him to a newer ADSL version, but didn't take away the old one - do you think

would I be able to use that old ADSL if I got BT broadband [and just never
bother with their home hub which they will send with the package? secondly -
[if
I can't use my Dad's old ADSL router and have to use their home hub - even
the
3.0 version] while I don;t have a dect phone my next door neighbour (whose
house
is about 2.5 m away from mine) does have a dect phone - would this mean that
the
3.0 BT hub [even with wireless disabled] would be likely to cause me
problems?

I am sorry if I am asking what are to anyone else very obvious questions,
but I
am a total tech novice and whatever help or advicwe you can offer would be
grwatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Steph

________________________________
From: John Jamieson <[hidden email]
<mailto:john%40theomegashift.com> >
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 10:34:41
Subject: RE: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello Steph

Good news for you!

I assume you are looking at broadband from BT - well, as I've mentioned here
before, the OLDER BT Home Hub 2.0 is a nightmare with its built-in DECT
phone base station, BUT the great news is that since Feb2011 BT have been
delivering the new Home Hub 3.0 which now does NOT have a DECT phone base
station built in.

I've just put the whole story on BT Home Hubs here:

http://theomegaway.com/hub

I just bought a BT Home Hub 3.0 off ebay to test this out and it's true -
AND the WiFi can actually be disabled easily - I've tested it actually does
turn off transmissions with my Electrosmog Detector.

AND I've posted comprehensive instructions and pictures of HOW to disable
wireless on a Home Hub 3.0 here:

http://www.theomegaway.com/How_to_turn_off_Wireless.html

So, if you order from BT just make sure it's a Home Hub 3.0 (not 2.0) they
send you - I understand that ALL new orders are going out with 3.0, but best
to get them to confirm)

Don't forget to disable the WiFi on your laptop/pc too!

You will then have a broadband that is perfect for sensitives. There are 4
network cable sockets on the back, so you can easily connect several
computers - more about all that, and more on the home page:
http://theomegaway.com <http://theomegaway.com/>

If you have any questions, just reply here, or call me - phone no. is on
that website contact page!

All the best

John Jamieson

_____

From: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
Stephanie Smith
Sent: 03 June 2011 17:24
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: wi-fi - and wireless broadband - urgent help needed

Hello everyone

Apologies for not being at the forum for a good while and only posting now
but I
haven't been at the forum for good reason - i have lost my internet
connection
and am having to make the transition from dial up (which I could use so kept

despite paying through the nose for a very poor service) to broadband - my
only
problem is it all seems to be done via wireless hubs and things like that. I
had
hoped to get an adsl voice router from BT ( i think it is called a voyager
220v)
which my Dad uses at his house and which I know I can use without too much
pain
but they don't do this any more and say that in order to get broadband from
them
I would have to get one of their wireless hubs. I tentatively raised my
health
concerns about wireless broadband with the guy I spoke to on the phone - he
prob
thought I was a total nutter - and he said that if I coneected it using the
USB
cable which is supplied with it and ignored the sim card then that would
effectively convert it into wired broadband (as opposed to wireless) and
there
would not then be any wireless waves in my house.

I am embarassed to admit that I am a tech and pc imbecile and am wondering
can
any of those of you who are tech minded confirm whether the advice he has
given
me is accurate or not . Also I was wondering can anyone advise me how best
to
get broadband (in the UK that is) with least problem for electrosensitives??

I am sorry if I am asking something which has already been dealt with
elsewhere
on the forum but I am emailing from the public library and only have a very
limited time on the computer and didn't have time to check the arcjhive.

My best to you all

Steph

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