Munich

Could anybody please suggest a company or a shop related to protection issues in Munich, Germany?

By the way, I have by chance read more of the Omega site, and it seems to have a lot about ES related issues, but the texts are not very well sorted. For example you might have been interested to see this, mentioning "large ES mailing list" (??). http://www.grn.es/electropolucio/omega25.htm

Finally, let me just once more repeat my question:
How could we talk about "longitudinal waves" if we don't know anything about them?!
"Something somehow related (!?) to an EMF source does make an influence, and it is not a transversal (Hertzian) wave." Ok. But why don't we call it "a ghost", or just "something"? I am not claiming for any explanations, just for rational approach to hypothesis. I would appreciate any response, and I am ready to believe it, once postulated rationally!

Drasko


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>I am not claiming for any explanations, just for rational approach
>to >hypothesis. I would appreciate any response, and I am ready to believe
>it,
>once postulated rationally!

As an engineer, I agree that it would be very nice to have some sort of
understanding about what aspects of EMF are causing people harm.

However, it *appears* that some people are delaying taking action until
they have that good understanding. And to me, this seems like an
unnecessary delay. I've tried dozens (hundreds?) of different things --
some helped, some did nothing, some made things worse. As for the things
which helped, some I had no understanding of how they worked. They just
did! And as a result, my quality of life became better.

I was *hoping* that with the creation of this discussion group, we could
actually make the quality of some people's life better. But the key to
doing this is actually TRYING something new that you haven't tried before.
I don't think the key is understanding. For example, I understood all
sorts of things which *sounded* good, but in practice didn't help at all...

Oh well, the group is still new. Perhaps we'll help *someone* in time... :-)

Marc

Marc,

You are already helping. I have learned a lot from you.Some day I will try some of your recommendations. When I have some energy to do it:)
Best regards
Nil
----- Original Messa.e -----
From: Marc Martin
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Understanding vs Experiencing


>I am not claiming for any explanations, just for rational approach
>to >hypothesis. I would appreciate any response, and I am ready to believe
>it,
>once postulated rationally!

As an engineer, I agree that it would be very nice to have some sort of
understanding about what aspects of EMF are causing people harm.

However, it *appears* that some people are delaying taking action until
they have that good understanding. And to me, this seems like an
unnecessary delay. I've tried dozens (hundreds?) of different things --
some helped, some did nothing, some made things worse. As for the things
which helped, some I had no understanding of how they worked. They just
did! And as a result, my quality of life became better.

I was *hoping* that with the creation of this discussion group, we could
actually make the quality of some people's life better. But the key to
doing this is actually TRYING something new that you haven't tried before.
I don't think the key is understanding. For example, I understood all
sorts of things which *sounded* good, but in practice didn't help at all...

Oh well, the group is still new. Perhaps we'll help *someone* in time... :-)

Marc


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Marc,
My standpoint is crystal clear:
My priority is practical trying in order to fix my life! (But I also try to
put some reasoning in it, finding it practical as well!)
So, let's get to the job:

1) I think that your idea about exchanging the devices for test purposes is
good. I think that there won't be much problem with customs. By the moment I
am able to share a Russian Neutralizer that doesn't work for me even nearly
as it used to (although the device has not changed itself), and I have some
Serbian REN device, that I didn't ever find it worked, but it has very good
recommendations from a German clinic (double blind tests etc.)...

2) I have tried the Quantum Byte software and I am not able to say that I
saw much difference in my computer experience (although I didn't dare to
work at the computer unprotected - I look through a binoculars as it is 5
meters from me, and I also have a metal shield.) (By the way, since I
downloaded it, I had my computer repaired, and the serviceman has erased the
program with a disgust, not asking for my perdition :-).) Listening to your
recommendations, I would have bought a Quantum product to test it, but you
also say that it won't work if the Quantum Byte didn't. So I am in a doubt
now which one to try? Please suggest.

3) I would also be happy to hear any unusual findings of any list member,
like whether cactus helps, how about crystals, etc. I liked to hear about
the water shielding and also about the Moon Blanket shielding. For another
example, I read elsewhere that a special homeopathic remedy against ES could
be made by "potentization" (as they cal it) of irradiated water, but it
didn't work for me to a noticeable extent.


Drasko

> I think that your idea about exchanging the devices for test purposes
> is good. I think that there won't be much problem with customs.

I actually mailed two EMF devices to two list members, but I have not
heard if they ever received them!

> Listening to your recommendations, I would have bought a Quantum product
> to test it, but you also say that it won't work if the Quantum Byte didn't.
> So I am in a doubt now which one to try? Please suggest.

If the free software download of the Quantum Byte software has no effect
on your computer use, then it's my opinion that none of the other Quantum
Products will help either. The two other products which I consider
to be the best are the Springlife Polarizers (http://bioharmonics.com)
and the Earthcalm Resonator (http://earthcalm.com). These are the things
I also sent out to the two other list members, so I'd be interested
if they notice any differences in using them or not. Also, perhaps
they'll
be willing to mail them to you so that you can try them out for free.

>how about crystals, etc.

Crystals are an interesting topic. My wife has lately become interested
in buying fancy crystals (quartz, etc.), just because she likes them.
However, I quickly found that these were highly agitating to me, so I try
to keep my distance from them. However, some may find benefits from
them. One nice thing about crystals is that many cities have stores
where they sell crystals. So for no cost, you could go to a store, pick
up a crystal, and see if you feel anything. It shouldn't take any more
than a minute to tell.

> I read elsewhere that a special homeopathic remedy against ES

I once tried the "Yarrow Special Formula" homeopathic remedy, but for me
it didn't appear to do anything.

Marc

Hello All

I'd first like to thank Marc for kindly sending me the springlife pendant
through the mail, which I received last Thursday. I have worn it constantly
since receiving it that morning. On the first day (Thursday) that I wore it at
work, I felt noticeably better in my office - I didn't feel the same sort of
lethargy by the end of the day that I have been feeling consistently for some
time. The following (Friday) evening, I noticed that I was feeling
significantly irritable, which caused me to get agitated if I had to sit still
for a short length of time, though this irritation passed relatively quickly.
This irritation was quite possibly a result of external factors in my life,
though I have read that people report feelings of irritation within a short
period of being exposed to these products, so I thought it was worth
mentioning. I also had the first few good nights sleep I've had in a long time
when wearing this pendant, though I must add that I also made a significant
change to my sleeping environment at the same time, so this is another
subjective aspect to my situation. I plan to send this pendant on to someone
else on Esens, so once I remove any influence it might be having on my life, I
should then be able to make a more objective assessment of it's influence. I
will inform the group once I have done this, in case anyone is interested.
Incidentally, the change to my sleeping environment involved turning off power
to my electric water heater and unnecessary power circuits at night time, as
the electricity meter-box and associated wiring is located on the outside of my
bedroom wall (I sleep against the opposite wall, several metres from the
meter-box). I also moved my AC electric alarm clock (which emanated a
significant field - measured with an EMDEX Snap gauss-meter). The alarm clock
was placed on a metal cabinet, which is also located as close as possible to
the meter box. I originally thought that the metal cabinet would afford me
some protection from electric fields emanating from wiring in the meter box,
however now that I have a better understanding of electromagnetics, based on
field theory, I fear that the metal cabinet could potentially transmit a small
amount of radiation, originating from high frequency harmonics in my internal
wiring or potentially from harmonics on their way from the DC inverter in my
alarm clock, to my wiring system, via the neutral wire. I have not yet
acquired a spectrum analyser to rule out any of these possibilities, so I am
presently opting for a precautionary approach.
Hopefully I'll have something of interest to report on the pendant in future
Regards
Lachlan

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Martin [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, 27 February 2004 6:28 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Understanding vs Experiencing

> I think that your idea about exchanging the devices for test purposes
> is good. I think that there won't be much problem with customs.

I actually mailed two EMF devices to two list members, but I have not
heard if they ever received them!

> Listening to your recommendations, I would have bought a Quantum product
> to test it, but you also say that it won't work if the Quantum Byte didn't.
> So I am in a doubt now which one to try? Please suggest.

If the free software download of the Quantum Byte software has no effect
on your computer use, then it's my opinion that none of the other Quantum
Products will help either. The two other products which I consider
to be the best are the Springlife Polarizers (http://bioharmonics.com)
and the Earthcalm Resonator (http://earthcalm.com). These are the things
I also sent out to the two other list members, so I'd be interested
if they notice any differences in using them or not. Also, perhaps
they'll
be willing to mail them to you so that you can try them out for free.

>how about crystals, etc.

Crystals are an interesting topic. My wife has lately become interested
in buying fancy crystals (quartz, etc.), just because she likes them.
However, I quickly found that these were highly agitating to me, so I try
to keep my distance from them. However, some may find benefits from
them. One nice thing about crystals is that many cities have stores
where they sell crystals. So for no cost, you could go to a store, pick
up a crystal, and see if you feel anything. It shouldn't take any more
than a minute to tell.

> I read elsewhere that a special homeopathic remedy against ES

I once tried the "Yarrow Special Formula" homeopathic remedy, but for me
it didn't appear to do anything.

Marc



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>I'd first like to thank Marc for kindly sending me the springlife pendant
>through the mail, which I received last Thursday.

Ahh, good, it made it!

>The following (Friday) evening, I noticed that I was feeling
>significantly irritable,

Typically, my reaction to any device that really works is that I feel
really good on the first day, then I start getting unpleasant detox
symptoms the following days/weeks. Eventually, I get used to it and don't
notice it at all -- that is, until I forget to wear it one day, and find
that my old familiar problems come back.

With the Springlife Polarizers (and some other things), I have to make sure
that I don't overdo it, otherwise I will get detox symptoms. For example,
I stopped wearing my pendant overnight, because I'd wake up dehydrated.
Instead, I just put it on the bed stand (as it seems to me to have about a
6 foot radius of effectiveness). But my current pendant is twice as large
as the one I sent you, so you may not have any such problems with the small
one.

>Hopefully I'll have something of interest to report on the pendant in future

I'm certainly interested -- I know that I've had great results from these
things, and I'm interested in seeing how universal they are... that is, do
they work for everyone, or most everyone, or just some people, or just me!

Marc

I did think about the irritation being related to detox. The thing is, I keep
my body very clean, in comparison to most people, so I don't have a lot to
detox. There is presumably a bit of mercury from one filling and probably
still a small amount of ethyl mercury from vaccinations when I was a child, but
probably very little other than that. I know most other people in the western
world have a lot more detoxing to do than I do. In this way, I suppose I might
not be the ideal test case, though I guess time will tell. Anyway, thanks
again Marc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Martin [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, 1 March 2004 1:46 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [eSens] Understanding vs Experiencing

>I'd first like to thank Marc for kindly sending me the springlife pendant
>through the mail, which I received last Thursday.

Ahh, good, it made it!

>The following (Friday) evening, I noticed that I was feeling
>significantly irritable,

Typically, my reaction to any device that really works is that I feel
really good on the first day, then I start getting unpleasant detox
symptoms the following days/weeks. Eventually, I get used to it and don't
notice it at all -- that is, until I forget to wear it one day, and find
that my old familiar problems come back.

With the Springlife Polarizers (and some other things), I have to make sure
that I don't overdo it, otherwise I will get detox symptoms. For example,
I stopped wearing my pendant overnight, because I'd wake up dehydrated.
Instead, I just put it on the bed stand (as it seems to me to have about a
6 foot radius of effectiveness). But my current pendant is twice as large
as the one I sent you, so you may not have any such problems with the small
one.

>Hopefully I'll have something of interest to report on the pendant in future

I'm certainly interested -- I know that I've had great results from these
things, and I'm interested in seeing how universal they are... that is, do
they work for everyone, or most everyone, or just some people, or just me!

Marc



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> But my current pendant is twice as large as the one I sent you

By the way, I have a photo of my collection of Springlife
Polarizers at:

http://ufoseries.com/polarizers.jpg

I've put some common objects next to them for a size reference.

The one I sent to Lachlan is at the smallest one, at the far right.
The one I currently wear every day is the next larger one (with the
black string attached to it). I've tried wearing the larger-sized
ones, but after a few days the detoxifation symptoms become too
unpleasant for me.

The largest-sized one on the far left is what I use at work to
neutralize my 21" CRT computer monitor, the florescent lights
overhead, and my coworkers computers. The pen-sized one I use
to neutralize my 19" CRT computer monitor at home.

The pager-sized model is useful while I'm at work, but not at
my desk.

By the way, the Bioharmonics website does not show the pager-sized
or the pen-sized models, but I still was able to special order
these sizes from them.

Marc