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Stefanie Toth
Hi All,

I think the human body is more sensitive than an electro device. I still can feel signals of mobile phones and WI-FI when my mobile phone and computer aready is indicating not having a connection anymore.

Thanks, Stefanie

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Re: More sensitive than a device

C.a.b. Johnson
Stephanie,

I don't know if your gadgets are still transmitting after they are turned off or not.  But, I have talked  before about how I store up radiation in my body throughout the day and then when I lay down at night under my shielded fabric, the radiation starts to really burn me and cause sharp pain as I try to dissipate it. 

In other words, some of my symptoms are residual but feel like they are immediate.  Do you think you are experiencing residual radiation buildup instead of immediate radiation that is penetrating your skin? 


C. Johnson
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Wireless Refugee


--- On Sat, 1/5/13, Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Stefanie Toth <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] More sensitive than a device
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 3:29 AM








 



 


   
     
     
      Hi All,



I think the human body is more sensitive than an electro device. I still can feel signals of mobile phones and WI-FI when my mobile phone and computer aready is indicating not having a connection anymore.



Thanks, Stefanie





   
     

   
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Re: More sensitive than a device

PUK
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the mobile will still emit when it looks as though they have been disabled  
especially in the first few seconds after switching it off.  If the battery
 is disconnected from the gadgets it is likely that you are  picking up  
signals from other more distant gadgets. Yes we are often more sensitive that  
say certain meters but that is subjective depending on how good the meter
is  etc...
 
what is the scenario where you pick up the signals are you saying that you  
have turned off the mobile and computer completely and you are nearby ???
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 05/01/2013 07:23:27 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Stephanie,

I don't know if your gadgets are still transmitting after  they are turned
off or not.  But, I have talked  before about how I  store up radiation in
my body throughout the day and then when I lay down at  night under my
shielded fabric, the radiation starts to really burn me and  cause sharp pain as I
try to dissipate it.  

In other words, some  of my symptoms are residual but feel like they are
immediate.  Do you  think you are experiencing residual radiation buildup
instead of immediate  radiation that is penetrating your skin?  

C. Johnson
_Superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
Wireless  Refugee

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Subject:  [eSens] More sensitive than a device
To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
Date:  Saturday, January 5, 2013, 3:29 AM



Hi All,

I think  the human body is more sensitive than an electro device. I still
can feel  signals of mobile phones and WI-FI when my mobile phone and
computer aready is  indicating not having a connection anymore.

Thanks,  Stefanie

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Re: More sensitive than a device

Steph Smith
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I too experience that build up of radiation which when I lie down at night goes mad for a bit - I have a magnetic kumatron bangle that helps to dissipate it - it usually works pretty well but not always - there are times when what is going on is more than it can handle but I would definitely support your experience of the radiation building up during the day.
Steph


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Stephanie,

I don't know if your gadgets are still transmitting after they are turned off or not.  But, I have talked  before about how I store up radiation in my body throughout the day and then when I lay down at night under my shielded fabric, the radiation starts to really burn me and cause sharp pain as I try to dissipate it. 

In other words, some of my symptoms are residual but feel like they are immediate.  Do you think you are experiencing residual radiation buildup instead of immediate radiation that is penetrating your skin? 

C. Johnson
[hidden email]
Wireless Refugee

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From: Stefanie Toth [hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] More sensitive than a device
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 3:29 AM

 

Hi All,

I think the human body is more sensitive than an electro device. I still can feel signals of mobile phones and WI-FI when my mobile phone and computer aready is indicating not having a connection anymore.

Thanks, Stefanie

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Re: More sensitive than a device

Stefanie Toth
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Yes, I can agree to it. I notice the difference when I for example used WI-FI the whole day, especially before I go to sleep. Next day I feel more bad. It seems like my body can't work through the whole pollution during the night, which was build up during the day. And surely when I sleep in an environment with less or no pollution, my body seems more able to clean up pollution I build up during the day than sleeping in a place with a lot of EMF.

I need the Internet, and it gets more and more only accessible via WI-FI, and you are anyway surrounded by it, as soon as you go into a public space. They use it everywhere now.

Nevertheless, in spite I am also able now to feel the difference of mobile signals, WI-FI, electro lines or radio signals in a certain location. It feels different. So, I am also able to notice when the pollution and those feelings stops. This can be differ from what my mobile phone and computer is indicating. The range, when I am still able to notice those feeling, can be definitely more wider than the devices seem able to notice - or better to say: indicating they would still get a signal and having a connection.

Currently, a furuncle is growing again beneath my left knee. Since 4 years I get it. I guess it also a way to clean up the pollution which gets more and more too much for my body. I had a furuncle under my right knee the last year. For almost a week it was so big that I couldn't walk. I must find a solution for my problem, how I can change my life style and living to it. Otherwise I am sure, I will be soon dead :-) . My body can't cope with it - which makes me really thinking how long this planet and nature in general can cope with it? Somehow scary.

Stefanie


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      Stephanie,



I don't know if your gadgets are still transmitting after they are turned off or not.  But, I have talked  before about how I store up radiation in my body throughout the day and then when I lay down at night under my shielded fabric, the radiation starts to really burn me and cause sharp pain as I try to dissipate it. 



In other words, some of my symptoms are residual but feel like they are immediate.  Do you think you are experiencing residual radiation buildup instead of immediate radiation that is penetrating your skin? 



C. Johnson

[hidden email]

Wireless Refugee



--- On Sat, 1/5/13, Stefanie Toth [hidden email]> wrote:



From: Stefanie Toth [hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] More sensitive than a device

To: [hidden email]

Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013, 3:29 AM



 



Hi All,



I think the human body is more sensitive than an electro device. I still can feel signals of mobile phones and WI-FI when my mobile phone and computer aready is indicating not having a connection anymore.



Thanks, Stefanie



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Re: More sensitive than a device

Stefanie Toth
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Actually, I am mainly staying in National Parks :-) . Often there are places without mobile signals and WI-FI, and electro lines - but you often get still radio signals. I try to find the white spots there and sleep in the car. Unfortunately, I had to cope with the police a few times in the past. It is not allowed to sleep everywhere, and often exactly in the places which are electro-free and which can be everywhere. I tried to sleep on camping sites. Not possible anymore. All with WI-FI or just allowed for a certain amount of time. I guess soon I have to go under water or the earth. I am really considering to kill myself. This is no life anymore. Honestly. I am not scared anymore of dying. I am glad when I am out of this hell!

Stefanie


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      the mobile will still emit when it looks as though they have been disabled  

especially in the first few seconds after switching it off.  If the battery

 is disconnected from the gadgets it is likely that you are  picking up  

signals from other more distant gadgets. Yes we are often more sensitive that  

say certain meters but that is subjective depending on how good the meter

is  etc...

 

what is the scenario where you pick up the signals are you saying that you  

have turned off the mobile and computer completely and you are nearby ???

 

puk

 

 

In a message dated 05/01/2013 07:23:27 GMT Standard Time,  

[hidden email] writes:



Stephanie,



I don't know if your gadgets are still transmitting after  they are turned

off or not.  But, I have talked  before about how I  store up radiation in

my body throughout the day and then when I lay down at  night under my

shielded fabric, the radiation starts to really burn me and  cause sharp pain as I

try to dissipate it.  



In other words, some  of my symptoms are residual but feel like they are

immediate.  Do you  think you are experiencing residual radiation buildup

instead of immediate  radiation that is penetrating your skin?  



C. Johnson

_Superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])

Wireless  Refugee



--- On Sat, 1/5/13, Stefanie Toth _stefaniet2@yahoo.com_

(mailto:[hidden email]) >  wrote:



From: Stefanie Toth _stefaniet2@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) >

Subject:  [eSens] More sensitive than a device

To: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])

Date:  Saturday, January 5, 2013, 3:29 AM



Hi All,



I think  the human body is more sensitive than an electro device. I still

can feel  signals of mobile phones and WI-FI when my mobile phone and

computer aready is  indicating not having a connection anymore.



Thanks,  Stefanie



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Re: More sensitive than a device

PUK
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the best soldiers are often the those that survive their wounds, yours is a
 war that is lost without you, please keep up the fight, there has to be a
light  at the end of the tunnel, but not the one you refer to.
 
puk
 
 
In a message dated 06/01/2013 22:57:39 GMT Standard Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Actually, I am mainly staying in National Parks :-) . Often there are  
places without mobile signals and WI-FI, and electro lines - but you often get  
still radio signals. I try to find the white spots there and sleep in the
car.  Unfortunately, I had to cope with the police a few times in the past. It
is  not allowed to sleep everywhere, and often exactly in the places which
are  electro-free and which can be everywhere. I tried to sleep on camping
sites.  Not possible anymore. All with WI-FI or just allowed for a certain
amount of  time. I guess soon I have to go under water or the earth. I am
really  considering to kill myself. This is no life anymore. Honestly. I am not
scared  anymore of dying. I am glad when I am out of this  hell!

Stefanie

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(mailto:[hidden email]) > schrieb am Sa,  5.1.2013:

Von: _paulpjc@aol.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])  _paulpjc@aol.com_
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An: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])
Datum:  Samstag, 5. Januar, 2013 22:34 Uhr



the mobile will still  emit when it looks as though they have been disabled

especially in the  first few seconds after switching it off. If the battery

is  disconnected from the gadgets it is likely that you are picking up  

signals from other more distant gadgets. Yes we are often more  sensitive
that

say certain meters but that is subjective depending on  how good the meter

is etc...

what is the scenario where you  pick up the signals are you saying that you

have turned off the mobile  and computer completely and you are nearby ???

puk

In a message  dated 05/01/2013 07:23:27 GMT Standard Time,

_superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])   writes:

Stephanie,

I don't know if your gadgets are still  transmitting after they are turned

off or not. But, I have talked  before about how I store up radiation in

my body throughout the day  and then when I lay down at night under my

shielded fabric, the  radiation starts to really burn me and cause sharp
pain as I

try to  dissipate it.

In other words, some of my symptoms are residual but  feel like they are

immediate. Do you think you are experiencing  residual radiation buildup

instead of immediate radiation that is  penetrating your skin?

C. Johnson

__Superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) _
(mailto:_Superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) )  

Wireless Refugee

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(mailto:_eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) )

Date:  Saturday, January 5, 2013, 3:29 AM

Hi All,

I think the human  body is more sensitive than an electro device. I still

can feel  signals of mobile phones and WI-FI when my mobile phone and

computer  aready is indicating not having a connection anymore.

Thanks,  Stefanie

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Re: More sensitive than a device

Stefanie Toth
In this case I hope the phrase is right: time will work for us.
If we are still can remember then. If we have not become
more or less totally brainless before. Some scientist already
are stating: Alzheimer and EMF is related. Maybe we should
put a message on a mobile phone, which is one day reminding
us... .

Stefanie


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      the best soldiers are often the those that survive their wounds, yours is a

 war that is lost without you, please keep up the fight, there has to be a

light  at the end of the tunnel, but not the one you refer to.

 

puk

 

 

In a message dated 06/01/2013 22:57:39 GMT Standard Time,  

[hidden email] writes:



Actually, I am mainly staying in National Parks :-) . Often there are  

places without mobile signals and WI-FI, and electro lines - but you often get  

still radio signals. I try to find the white spots there and sleep in the

car.  Unfortunately, I had to cope with the police a few times in the past. It

is  not allowed to sleep everywhere, and often exactly in the places which

are  electro-free and which can be everywhere. I tried to sleep on camping

sites.  Not possible anymore. All with WI-FI or just allowed for a certain

amount of  time. I guess soon I have to go under water or the earth. I am

really  considering to kill myself. This is no life anymore. Honestly. I am not

scared  anymore of dying. I am glad when I am out of this  hell!



Stefanie



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(mailto:[hidden email]) > schrieb am Sa,  5.1.2013:



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An: _eSens@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])

Datum:  Samstag, 5. Januar, 2013 22:34 Uhr



the mobile will still  emit when it looks as though they have been disabled



especially in the  first few seconds after switching it off. If the battery



is  disconnected from the gadgets it is likely that you are picking up  



signals from other more distant gadgets. Yes we are often more  sensitive

that



say certain meters but that is subjective depending on  how good the meter



is etc...



what is the scenario where you  pick up the signals are you saying that you



have turned off the mobile  and computer completely and you are nearby ???



puk



In a message  dated 05/01/2013 07:23:27 GMT Standard Time,



_superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email])   writes:



Stephanie,



I don't know if your gadgets are still  transmitting after they are turned



off or not. But, I have talked  before about how I store up radiation in



my body throughout the day  and then when I lay down at night under my



shielded fabric, the  radiation starts to really burn me and cause sharp

pain as I



try to  dissipate it.



In other words, some of my symptoms are residual but  feel like they are



immediate. Do you think you are experiencing  residual radiation buildup



instead of immediate radiation that is  penetrating your skin?



C. Johnson



__Superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) _

(mailto:_Superdrove@yahoo.com_ (mailto:[hidden email]) )  



Wireless Refugee



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Date:  Saturday, January 5, 2013, 3:29 AM



Hi All,



I think the human  body is more sensitive than an electro device. I still



can feel  signals of mobile phones and WI-FI when my mobile phone and



computer  aready is indicating not having a connection anymore.



Thanks,  Stefanie



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