Mobile phone base stations

Do these emit the same dangerous signals as the mobiles themselves?
If so, I understand that mobile signals can be re-radiated by the metal
in a matress, so can the signals from base stations also be re-radiated
by a mattress and if so how strong is this radiation and can it be as
harmful as using a mobile itself? And does this radiation apply to any
metal objects in the house or is it only certain metals which would do
this? And does anyone know how close you have to live to a base station
for it to be harmful?

Hi,

In far greater magnitude, both by the shear magnitude of the number of
communication "lines" in use, and also in power levels that are allowed
to be broadcast from a tower/mast.

Did I post about measuring levels on a trip last year? The levels 200
ft. from the tower in Marysville, right next to the auction-building,
were so high, the Zap Checker was at 100% on the lowest sensitivity setting.

I'm not sure how to measure mattress springs. Sure the power levels
would be below the readings found in the air, unless the metal length is
tuned like an antenna.

I react within 2 miles of a tower, and feel best outside 5 miles.
Even said, the closest towers here are 6.8 miles away, and it is not far
enough to feel well.

And this year they are building a new tower 5.0 miles away...the bloody
monsters.

Stewart

richsurf77 wrote:

richsurf77 wrote:
> Do these emit the same dangerous signals as the mobiles themselves?
> If so, I understand that mobile signals can be re-radiated by the metal
> in a matress, so can the signals from base stations also be re-radiated
> by a mattress and if so how strong is this radiation and can it be as
> harmful as using a mobile itself? And does this radiation apply to any
> metal objects in the house or is it only certain metals which would do
> this? And does anyone know how close you have to live to a base station
> for it to be harmful?
>


A alluminium bar/connector for the plastic roof sheeting on my conservatory
emits emf and ef why ?It is approx 2.5m long x 25mm wide

Paul


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Does the zap checker measure RF radiation or electric/magnetic fields?
Take a look at this site which is for the public to find base station
locations in the UK, if you zoom in on London until you see the
black triangles which are the base stations, it's unbelievable how
many there are and how close together they are.  

http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/


--- In [hidden email], "S. Andreason" <sandreas41@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> In far greater magnitude, both by the shear magnitude of the number
of
> communication "lines" in use, and also in power levels that are
allowed
> to be broadcast from a tower/mast.
>
> Did I post about measuring levels on a trip last year? The levels
200
> ft. from the tower in Marysville, right next to the auction-
building,
> were so high, the Zap Checker was at 100% on the lowest sensitivity
setting.
>
> I'm not sure how to measure mattress springs. Sure the power levels
> would be below the readings found in the air, unless the metal
length is
> tuned like an antenna.
>
> I react within 2 miles of a tower, and feel best outside 5 miles.
> Even said, the closest towers here are 6.8 miles away, and it is
not far
> enough to feel well.
>
> And this year they are building a new tower 5.0 miles away...the
bloody
> monsters.
>
> Stewart
>
> richsurf77 wrote:
> > Do these emit the same dangerous signals as the mobiles
themselves?
> > If so, I understand that mobile signals can be re-radiated by the
metal
> > in a matress, so can the signals from base stations also be re-
radiated
> > by a mattress and if so how strong is this radiation and can it
be as
> > harmful as using a mobile itself? And does this radiation apply
to any
> > metal objects in the house or is it only certain metals which
would do
> > this? And does anyone know how close you have to live to a base
station
> > for it to be harmful?
> >
> >
>

-HI All,

I have been electro sensitive free since moving to the country,
putting either batteries or magnets on everything that emitted
energy fields that interfered with my body energy field. I also
have spent a lot of effort to build up my immune system, including
getting all of the mercury out of my teeth and my system. This
has included eating almost exclusively organic with some Kosher
foods, and also juicing organic greens, etc.

I mention all of this because our county is going to build a
communications tower on a hill right behind us, less than a mile
away. It will have two large Verizon dishes attached to it.  
I will let you know, after it is built and operational, if all my
efforts to protect myself have been in vain.

Phyllicia


> Paul
>
>
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--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:
>
> richsurf77 wrote:
> > Do these emit the same dangerous signals as the mobiles
themselves?
> > If so, I understand that mobile signals can be re-radiated by
the metal
> > in a matress, so can the signals from base stations also be re-
radiated
> > by a mattress and if so how strong is this radiation and can it
be as
> > harmful as using a mobile itself? And does this radiation apply
to any
> > metal objects in the house or is it only certain metals which
would do
> > this? And does anyone know how close you have to live to a base
station
> > for it to be harmful?
> >
>
>
> A alluminium bar/connector for the plastic roof sheeting on my  
conservatory
> emits emf and ef why ?It is approx 2.5m long x 25mm wide
>  
> Paul
>
>
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>

Well, I think I'm right in saying that aluminium is not magnetic, so
it must be conducting some of the electricity from a household
appliance or wiring, I would guess. I would think it would be alot
weaker than the electric field directly from an appliance though.

richsurf77 wrote:
> Does the zap checker measure RF radiation or electric/magnetic fields?
>
RF radiation

Hi Phyllicia,

That is tremendously annoying, even depressing. My sympathies.

I imagine complaining to Verizon won't help.
I would imagine the outcome can be guessed at, by how you react when
shopping in town?

I also have found much improvement in moving, here (to rural area).

I didn't mean to imply the situation for sensitives, in town or city, is
not worse off.
It just seems impossible to keep ahead of, more than a step at least, of
the movement to put up towers everywhere.

In summary, If you live in "town", and become sensitive, you'll end up
moving. After moving to a rural area, get better, and hopefully find a
job that is compatible with your new situation, ... they will come.

I guess it is a race to keep ahead of "them" before their proliferation
of towers finally hits a road block.

Stewart

phylliciah wrote:

> Phyllicia wrote -
It will have two large Verizon dishes attached to it.
> I will let you know, after it is built and operational, if all my
> efforts to protect myself have been in vain.
>
>

Paul replies -

Surely there must come a time when you have to take the protest to the
doorstep of the key shareholders !!??


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someone wrote -

Well, I think I'm right in saying that aluminium is not magnetic, so
it must be conducting some of the electricity from a household
appliance or wiring, I would guess. I would think it would be alot
weaker than the electric field directly from an appliance though.


Paul REPLIES

This bar is separated from electricity of house by outside wall, no contact
at all ? It is mysterious, I had thought that it may be picking up 2.4ghz
say from neighbours dect/wifi ? the bar is approx 2.4m long

help !!!!!! There is someone out there that will know the answer here.


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Response to Paul's comments below:

The problem with that is that since we all live on acreage there are only a few people to protest. In other words, our numbers are very small...not a huge voice.
I doubt that the ranchers around here even consider that there could be some
health danger in this tower being built.

My main concern is how it might affect the horses, cattle, sheep, goats and
wild life in the area, as well as domestic pets. I am hoping that because it will
be built on top of the highest hill in the area, that the energies will not hit us
directly on the ground. That could be wishful thinking.

Best Regards,
Phyllicia

[hidden email] wrote: > Phyllicia wrote -
It will have two large Verizon dishes attached to it.
> I will let you know, after it is built and operational, if all my
> efforts to protect myself have been in vain.
>
>

Paul replies -

Surely there must come a time when you have to take the protest to the
doorstep of the key shareholders !!??

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Notice to all members -

Are you aware of the 56 page full colour document entitled "Electrosmog in
the Environment" produced by the Swiss agency for the environment, it has its
shortcomings but at least it does not seek to hide matters in the dark.

I beleive its free the email address is

[hidden email].ch_ (mailto:[hidden email])

or website _www.environment-switzerland.ch/electrosmog_
(http://www.environment-switzerland.ch/electrosmog)

best wishes

Paul - UK


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The aluminum strip isn't really conducting, what it is doing is re-radiating whatever is induced
into it.

You can see the effect with a common digital voltmeter; switch to AC, millivolt range,
spread the test leads as if you were holding your arms out straight, then walk towards it and
away. Our bodies also re-radiate.
These meters only show house current at 60 cycles (north america), but still mine showed
the above changes.




--- In [hidden email], "richsurf77" <richgrav@...> wrote:

The aluminum strip isn't really conducting, what it is doing is re-radiating
whatever is induced
into it.

Paul replies -

Could a nearby dect phone do this or wifi router, that said the nearest
cable to the strip is cable tv from nextdoor about 2ft away, maybe this is the
culprit. I am still curious as to what is the root cause of this. The house
approx 120ft away from us to the rear used to have a large ameteur radio
antennea in thier garden, but they have swithched to a small mono pole, but that
would only radiate when in use. Perhaps then its the 3g mast 1000m away. I
am curious.

Paul


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--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:
>
> The aluminum strip isn't really conducting, what it is doing is re-radiating
> whatever is induced
> into it.
>
> Paul replies -
>  
> Could a nearby dect phone do this or wifi router,

Yes.


that said the nearest  
> cable to the strip is cable tv from nextdoor about 2ft away, maybe this is the  
> culprit. I am still curious as to what is the root cause of this.

Finding the cause accurately would require the right test instruments, or some clever
guessing.


William

Willaim wrote-

> cable to the strip is cable tv from nextdoor about 2ft away, maybe this is
the
> culprit. I am still curious as to what is the root cause of this.

Finding the cause accurately would require the right test instruments, or
some clever
guessing.

William


Paul replies -
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Thanks just seems so odd that out of several closely centred support bars
only one registers this ?

I guess it will have to remain on of lifes mysteries.


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