Millions are implanted and do not know it, they claim they are simply electro se

Millions are implanted and do not know it, they claim they are
simply electro sensitive. They don't even know about implants and
directed energy kills. Their ignorance is called
electrosensitivcity, you should drop in on such groups and try to
get through their denial as there is a wealth of activity in their
personaL research going on written there. It will be A difficult
task to get them to see reason but worth ot to pick up persons to
engage in activism. You people on the groups
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mcforums/ and also
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mindcontrolresearchforum/ should
not give up clueing these people in as to whats really afoot.

The following group is filled with such people who dont know whats
really happening. I would not say that they are all victims of
government attack if they are regularily exposed from some obvious
high energy source however most cannot say they are 10 feet froma
high tension wire or handle radar or radio emitting equipment of a
power level that can do it. Many of you are well schooled now to
educate them. Its worth a try.

Meet them and others like them, tune in their group below and search
for others like it. Untapped activism awaits.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/

and for those who are so called electrosensitive tune in
http://www.us-government-torture.com and find out what Uncle Sam
does to cause premature death in his depopulation program. If you
wont beliebe that get the folllowing book written by a Professor on
the horrors of US human experimentation that proves it may be
so. "In the Name of Science by Prof. Andrew Goliszek

> I would not say that they are all victims of government
> attack if they are regularily exposed from some obvious
> high energy source

I would say that many of the cases here can be explained
by simple over-exposure to radiation or other toxins.
I've certainly spent more time in my lifetime sitting in
front of a computer monitor than than the average person
ever will.

But I have seen an occasional message here from someone
who felt that they were under government surveillance.
I don't know if there is some truth to that or they
are simply being paranoid. In my own case, I don't
see any evidence of it. It seems to be a clear-cut
health problem -- one that I did not have 10 years
ago, and one that I probably will no longer have
10 years from now.

Implants or not, this group is all about overcoming
the problems and recovery, and not about activism.

Marc

--- In [hidden email], "flymetoparadise" <flymetoparadise@...>
wrote:
>
> Millions are implanted and do not know it, they claim they are
> simply electro sensitive. They don't even know about implants and
> directed energy kills.

I would agree that there is scope for a victim of e-harassment to
mistakenly believe for a time that he or she is merely electro-
hyersensitive. That is plain common sense. However, I don't see how
you get from that observation to the "millions are implanted" claim.

http://www.us-government-torture.com/symptoms.html

Read about the issue of millions

flymetoparadise wrote:
> http://www.us-government-torture.com/symptoms.html
>
> Read about the issue of millions

Yes, but even that page is lacking in any evidence.
Just because someone types "80 million people" onto
a webpage doesn't make it true.

And those symptoms they list? Those are the same
symptoms as heavy metal poisoning. And probably
a lot of other things.

Also, I would imagine that the amount of EMF in
our environment is far greater than anything that
could be contained in a tooth implant.

Does the EMF emitted by these implants register
on a meter?

Marc

Hi folks:

sigh...! I guess, for really unhappy people, there is a degree of
self-importance that goes along with spreading fear and paranoia and
swiming in murky conspiracy theories. Not to mention the distraction
offered by the drama and pathos atendant to these complex conspiracy
plots! Gosh, better than renting a drama video from Blockbuster!

with care,
--Vinny

At 10:57 AM 9/16/2006, you wrote:
>http://www.us-government-torture.com/symptoms.html
>
>Read about the issue of millions
>


Vinny Pinto
[hidden email]

phone 301-694-1249

To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to:
http://www.vinnypinto.us

Hi folks:

Okay!... Okay!... Okay!... I give up!.... I relent! I will confess!
My phone has been ringing off the hook with calls from list members
demanding that I tell the truth, and so, sigh.... here goes:

sigh... I hate it when I am caught and my nefarious plots are exposed
to the lumpen proletariat! sigh!

So, here is the real truth:

I was paid $500,000 in cash by the reptoid reptilians and their alien
gray cohorts to write what I did below wherein I scorned the idea of
alien implants and conspiracy theories. The money, in $100 bills, was
delivered to me one hour ago at my remote mountain hideaway and
secret mountain laboratory by a colonel in the secret underground Air
Force, the same branch of the Air Force which operates the Chemtrails
program (and which operates the unmarked silent black helicopters),
and frankly, that much money was just tooo tempting! And so, I wrote
the scornful letter to the list group (which appears below) for them!
I figured at the time that it would not do any harm, and would not
help the alien invaders to take over Earth and enslave all of us! sigh!

I am so sorry! I apologize! I will never do this again! (at least not
until they offer me more money....)

with deep contrition and remorse,
--Vinny

At 12:30 PM 9/16/2006, you wrote:

Vinny Pinto
[hidden email]

phone 301-694-1249

To see my informational websites and e-mail list groups, please go to:
http://www.vinnypinto.us

--- In [hidden email], in a thread entitled "Millions are
implanted and do not know it", referring to http://www.us-government-
torture.com/symptoms.html, Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:

66
... those symptoms they list? Those are the same symptoms as heavy
metal poisoning. And probably a lot of other things.
99

There exists an anecdotal congruence between the sypmtoms of EHS and
e-harassment. There also exists a congruence, in this case
documented to a high standard of scientific scholarship, between the
bio-effects of microwave radiation and the supposed symptoms of so-
called schizophrenia, a disease which may well not exist.

EHS has begun to gain recognition. Gulf War syndrome and ME have
already gained full recognition. Early sufferers from all three new
conditions used listed, until recently, to acquire mental illness
diagnoses. E-harassment sufferers still often do. The struggle for
the recognition of e-harassment has not yet made the same headway as
the same struggle re EHS had made recently.

A conjecture worth considering is that some people who present with
EHS might atually be suffering from e-harassment, or vice versa.  
It's impossible to tell, except when e-harassment is overt, whether
it is (say) proximity to a phone mast that causes symptoms, or the
deliberate exploitation of bio-effects of modulated microwave
radiation in EM weapons. The problem is that unless and until there
is a some glasnost about e-harassment, devising diagnostic tests to
distinguish EHS from covert e-harassment is rendered impossible.

Before EHS gained recognition, EHS sufferers had to be activists. It
was only thus that the condition gained the tentative reognition it
has already. For the reasons I explained, beause of the congruence
of symptoms and the consequent scope for misdiagnosis, it is in the
interests of patients who present with a suspected self-diagnosis of
EHS that e-harassment activism should become as successful as EHS
activism has been, to have made some progress towards recognition of
the condition.

Mind you, as a piece of activism, I don't think that starting the
old,sensationalist "millions implanted" thread was particularly
clever.

I'm here to learn, by the way. I have a client about whom there are
three conflicting opinions, offered by those trying to understnd her
predicament: mental illness, EHS and e-harassment.

John Allman
+44 7930 519793
www.thatfund.org

PS I used to switch off when the subject of chemtrails came up,
until about a week ago, when I read that they were admitted by the
USAF.

What is a typical scenario where a person would become e-harassed and who
from. As you say such weapons exist, if you check out
Electrosensitivity.org.uk you will see a recent news article (this weeks news update & scroll down)
re soldiers in isreal ahving some inexplicable injuries - worth a read.

If private individuals get there hands on such wepons thats a bad enough
scenario.. its just not cricket as they say !

Paul esP


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Yes Mark there is a way to detect this see
http://www.us-government-torture.com/KIT.html

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
flymetoparadise wrote:
> http://www.us-government-torture.com/symptoms.html
>
> Read about the issue of millions

Yes, but even that page is lacking in any evidence.
Just because someone types "80 million people" onto
a webpage doesn't make it true.

And those symptoms they list? Those are the same
symptoms as heavy metal poisoning. And probably
a lot of other things.

Also, I would imagine that the amount of EMF in
our environment is far greater than anything that
could be contained in a tooth implant.

Does the EMF emitted by these implants register
on a meter?

Marc


         

 
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The issues are of overcomming the effects as well, at least on this websiteand the page to reduce symptoms as the deletrious effects are very relative'
http://www.us-government-torture.com/KIT.html

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I would not say that they are all victims of government
> attack if they are regularily exposed from some obvious
> high energy source

I would say that many of the cases here can be explained
by simple over-exposure to radiation or other toxins.
I've certainly spent more time in my lifetime sitting in
front of a computer monitor than than the average person
ever will.

But I have seen an occasional message here from someone
who felt that they were under government surveillance.
I don't know if there is some truth to that or they
are simply being paranoid. In my own case, I don't
see any evidence of it. It seems to be a clear-cut
health problem -- one that I did not have 10 years
ago, and one that I probably will no longer have
10 years from now.

Implants or not, this group is all about overcoming
the problems and recovery, and not about activism.

Marc


         

 
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Dear Paul

You asked, "What is a typical scenario where a person would become e-harassed ...?"

Frankly, there isn't such a thing as a "typical" scenario, any more than there is such a beast as a "typical" rapist, or, more to the point, a typical scenario in which somebody becomes a rape victim, or a typical kind of person who is most likely to become a rape victim. It would be politically incorrect to "profile" the "typical rape victim", and part of my mission amongst the public generally (though not in this group) is to make it equally politically incorrect to suggest profiling the "typical e-harassment victim."

You asked, "... and who from?" (I.e., "By whom?")

If we knew that, and had courtroom standard evidence to substantiate it, we'd have sued successfully by now, and would be very, very rich. If the USA public sector or any corporation was in the frame, we'd sue over there, because they allow juries to find the verdict in tort cases. However, we do have this recent admission from the USA, on the part of the top big wig in their Air Force:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/12/usaf.weapons.ap/index.html

We also have the claim of the Home Office's Intelligence and Security Liaison Unit, that any instances there may be of certain kinds of abuse in the UK are conducted "lawfully", and "independently overseen" by The Intelligence Services Commissioner. See http://slavery.org.uk/BritGovCorresp.htm, final two items - two faxes which (and you couldn't make this up!) the said unit sent me in a single day, at Butlins in Skegness (even people trying to save the world need a holiday!), two or three days before I recorded a TV interview, in Skegness. LOL!!!

In general, I think it's fair to assume that any abuse that must surely involve technology so advanced that only if the technology was classified would its development be likely to fail to make the front page of every serious newspaper, is conducted by the public sector, or outsourced to (say) "defence contractors." I doubt that common or garden gangsters or one's "neighbours from hell" have access to the advanced telemetry needed to make individualised EM weapons abuse any more worthwhile than attempting to playing darts in a darkroom.

See also http://sysos.co.uk/Spadeadam.doc, mainly for the picture in the (Word) document. Then go figure for yourself. I'm not going to libel any particular agency, even by suggesting that it has "rogue elements" who don't "play cricket" (i.e. break the Nuremberg Code. I merely document here what nobody can deny, because it's there in black and white.

John



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On Sep 16, 2006, at 20:02, John Allman wrote:

> EHS has begun to gain recognition. Gulf War syndrome and ME have
> already gained full recognition. Early sufferers from all three new

HUH? Tell that to my ex-doctor. She even told me that she did think
that I had chronic fatigue/ME. Turns out she was just trying to get me
back into the office so that she could give me anti-depressants. If
that's full recognition, I'd rather have ignorance. %-)

Emma


> conditions used listed, until recently, to acquire mental illness
> diagnoses. E-harassment sufferers still often do. The struggle for

--- In [hidden email], sinclair@... wrote: me
> back into the office so that she could give me anti-depressants. If
> that's full recognition, I'd rather have ignorance. %-)

Perhaps I exaggerated, but at least there are now at least there are
two universities conducting jointly a research project into EHS. There
may be other research I don't know about.

I hope you can I understand the parallel I was trying to draw, even
though my optimism might be premature.