Merry Xmas and happy new year

Merry Xmas and happy new year to the group.

Rowan C

> Typically, when I went shopping today with my wife in a village nearby,
> she had no trouble in the supermarket, inside and near the freezers, and
> outside on the parking lot in front of the churchtower, full of GSM
antennas.
> This was quite different only two weeks ago.

This is so remarkable! I am so curious to know more.

Charles, if you can, do you know any more about the following:

1] what is the strength and character of the electromagnetic fields in the
vicinity of the device while it is operating? What EMF is the bather
exposed to?

2] have you tried the bath using distilled water? I see that local water
mineral content will vary the color of the final bath, even if no feet are
present. Color change using distilled water (and no feet) will be due only
to what the electrodes are adding to the water.

3] Do you add anything to the water under normal use?

4] do you know what the electrodes are made from? Which metal(s) are being
introduced into the water (body)? How is this device any different from an
electroplating bath?

5] is the effect the same if the hands (or other body parts) are soaked?

6] is it possible that a current is flowing through the body (in one foot
and out the other) while soaking? What happens if only 1 foot is soaked?

7] has anyone analysed the water to compare the final bath without feet
compared to with feet? What ions, proteins, fats, sugars, etc are present?


It would be so useful to know what aspect of this "therapy" is responsible
for the benefit. It could help us greatly to understand possible causes of
ES, and alternative treatments too!


Emil DeToffol
Less EMF Inc.
tel: +1-518-432-1550
fax: +1-309-422-4355

Hello Emil,

see below:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Emil DeToffol" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:54
Subject: Re: [eSens] foot baths


I did not measure it yet, but it does not give any effect sofar.
It runs on 2 Amps and under 20 Volts DC.

> 2] have you tried the bath using distilled water? I see that local water
> mineral content will vary the color of the final bath, even if no feet are
> present. Color change using distilled water (and no feet) will be due only
> to what the electrodes are adding to the water.

Yes, we tried distilled water, but in order to have the right amps, some
salt must be added.
20-40 % of the found residues in the water come from the water; the rest
coms out of the body.


> 3] Do you add anything to the water under normal use?

Yes some seasalt in order to achieve the right Amps

> 4] do you know what the electrodes are made from? Which metal(s) are being
> introduced into the water (body)? How is this device any different from an
> electroplating bath?

The metal electrode plates are placed inside an array.

> 5] is the effect the same if the hands (or other body parts) are soaked?

We have not tried that yet.

> 6] is it possible that a current is flowing through the body (in one foot
> and out the other) while soaking? What happens if only 1 foot is soaked?

It is not the current that is working.
The positive and/or negative ions go into the body by osmosis and drag the
garbage out.


> 7] has anyone analysed the water to compare the final bath without feet
> compared to with feet? What ions, proteins, fats, sugars, etc are present?

Yes, there are reports about that.
Also, what metals and how much are coming out.

> It would be so useful to know what aspect of this "therapy" is responsible
> for the benefit. It could help us greatly to understand possible causes of
> ES, and alternative treatments too!

It is my opinion, that people who do have a *history* are succeptible for
becoming electrosensitive.
This *history* has a lot to do with chemicals, pollution, poisons, heavy
metals, etc which are stored inside our body, and which weaken our
immunesystem.
The book *Amalagam Illness* by Andrew Hall Cutler reads like a horror story.

Most stuff we use today are stuffed with pollutants (read the books by Hulda
Clark).
Like most deodorants contain a lot of aluminium.
Many years ago, doctors wanted to cut the eye out of my neighbour, becaus
she had a heavy infection on her eye.
When she started to stop using a certain eye make-up, the infection went
away.
Everything we eat and drink contains pollutants.
Most remain layered in the body.

I think, that this foot spa may help to get them out.
But, that is my opinion.
The effects are very promising.
Although it is not cheap.
But, being healthy costs a lot nowadays.

We have found that a liver cleansing according to the method of Hulda Clark
(takes 24 hours) helps people also a lot, and when they have ejected the
gallstones that way, they feel better, and also their electrosensibility
level is somewhat lessened.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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>
> Emil DeToffol
> Less EMF Inc.
> tel: +1-518-432-1550
> fax: +1-309-422-4355
>

> 7] has anyone analysed the water to compare the final bath without feet
> compared to with feet?

As I recall, the woman in my area who was testing one out visually
compared the results of the water by running it with and without feet
in it. There was some discoloration in the water without feet, but
it was not nearly as much "muck", "foam", "gunk", and "specks" as
when it was run with feet. As I recall, I think she had to add
some salt to the water before putting the device into it.

> It would be so useful to know what aspect of this "therapy" is responsible
> for the benefit. It could help us greatly to understand possible causes of
> ES, and alternative treatments too!

The foot bath is supposed to detoxify the body, and there have been
several people who have had their ES symptoms reduced via other
methods of detoxification.

Marc

Sure, there are many roads that lead to Rome.
Also, there are many people who do not have any ES symptoms at all.
(Think of all those fools who do need their mobile phones so desperately)

And, there are many people, who are sick.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus



----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 17:24
Subject: Re: [eSens] foot baths



The foot bath is supposed to detoxify the body, and there have been
several people who have had their ES symptoms reduced via other
methods of detoxification.

Marc

Hi, All,

Well, I spoke too soon in saying that if I were going to have ES, I think I would have gotten it after I had my car accident and was practically x-rayed to death. (A slight exaggeration.) I tried my new cell phone that my parents got me for Christmas and got a headache both times I used it. (And I always posted here saying I did not have ES!) I am going to try it once more using radio speakers so that I do not have to have it close to my head, but if that doesn't work, I am sending it back! Do any of you know if using it 3 feet away is safe if you react to using it up close to your head??? I still will only use it for emergencies if that is ok.

Also, Quaixmen and Ian, I will have your info for you tomorrow. I have been gathering the info today and have a bit more to do yet.

Hope all had a Merry Holiday and wish all a happy New Year!
Diane

charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
Sure, there are many roads that lead to Rome.
Also, there are many people who do not have any ES symptoms at all.
(Think of all those fools who do need their mobile phones so desperately)

And, there are many people, who are sick.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton Antivirus



----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 17:24
Subject: Re: [eSens] foot baths



The foot bath is supposed to detoxify the body, and there have been
several people who have had their ES symptoms reduced via other
methods of detoxification.

Marc





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Sorry to hear about your response to your cell phone, Diane. My husband hasa strong ES
reaction to cell phones up to 10 feet away or more (sharp headache). He avoids cell
phones altogether; carries a cell phone in on trips in case of emergencies but mostly
keeps it turned off. I am much less sensitive, so I sometimes use my cell phone for text
messaging (arm's length away, and not for extended periods). I almost neveruse my cell
phone close to my head. If my phone rings and I must answer it, I immediately ask the
caller if I may return the call on another line. I hang up and call them back on a regular
phone line. It's not the most convenient solution but it beats the headaches. In my
experience cell phones are the worst thing you can do if you have ES. And if you aren't
already electrically sensitive, cell phone use will get you there FAST.

~Cara


--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi, All,
>    
> Well, I spoke too soon in saying that if I were going to have ES, I think I would have
gotten it after I had my car accident and was practically x-rayed to death.(A slight
exaggeration.) I tried my new cell phone that my parents got me for Christmas and got a
headache both times I used it. (And I always posted here saying I did not have ES!) I am
going to try it once more using radio speakers so that I do not have to have it close to my
head, but if that doesn't work, I am sending it back! Do any of you know if using it 3 feet
away is safe if you react to using it up close to your head??? I still will only use it for
emergencies if that is ok.
>    
> Also, Quaixmen and Ian, I will have your info for you tomorrow. I havebeen gathering
the info today and have a bit more to do yet. Health promotion and wellness Health and wellness promotion Business health wellness

You might try one of the radiation filters on them too. I know some
here aren't fond of Cook's diodes, but they've been helpful for me.

I'm guessing that card someone mentioned earlier might help for phone
too. Some of the marketed filters actually make things worse, so do
your research.

As of ?I think it's this year?, all cell phones will have a gps chip
required in them as well, although many already do, so it is
radiating even when it's off. I don't know if unplugging the battery
disables that function. What I've heard suggested, and if I ever end
up having to have one myself for emergency or occasional use, will
do, is have a lead lined bag for camera film to keep it in when not
in use. That is as far as I know the only way to really protect
yourself from it when it is off.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE, AND MANY GOOD BREAKTHROUGHS!

~ Snoshoe


--- In [hidden email], "Cara" <cara_evangelista@h...> wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear about your response to your cell phone, Diane. My
husband has a strong ES
> reaction to cell phones up to 10 feet away or more (sharp
headache). He avoids cell
> phones altogether; carries a cell phone in on trips in case of
emergencies but mostly
> keeps it turned off. I am much less sensitive, so I sometimes use
my cell phone for text
> messaging (arm's length away, and not for extended periods). I
almost never use my cell
> phone close to my head. If my phone rings and I must answer it, I
immediately ask the
> caller if I may return the call on another line. I hang up and call
them back on a regular
> phone line. It's not the most convenient solution but it beats the
headaches. In my
> experience cell phones are the worst thing you can do if you have
ES. And if you aren't
> already electrically sensitive, cell phone use will get you there
FAST.
>
> ~Cara