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Elizabeth thode




On Magnet therapy:  Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation 

 

As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in “The Body Electric,”

our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven
trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses.

 

These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted
by the electropollution around us,

 

especially when frequency wavelengthis in the
brainwave region (0-33 hertz),

or matches up with and resonates with
electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body.

 

Becker also found that healing only takes
place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged.

 

When it turns positive, the healing process
shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is
fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields

and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR.

 

Lizzie

     

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Re: Magnets

charles-4
Lesson:

Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic.
So, also from DC magnetic fields.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Elizabeth thode
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM
  Subject: [eSens] Magnets






  On Magnet therapy:  Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation 

   

  As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in “The Body Electric,”

  our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven
  trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses.

   

  These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted
  by the electropollution around us,

   

  especially when frequency wavelengthis in the
  brainwave region (0-33 hertz),

  or matches up with and resonates with
  electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body.

   

  Becker also found that healing only takes
  place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged.

   

  When it turns positive, the healing process
  shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is
  fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields

  and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR.

   

  Lizzie

         

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Re: Magnets

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On August 10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic.
> So, also from DC magnetic fields.

Although Lizzie reported feeling better when putting a small magnet
on her body, so it seems that (as usual) there is a wide range of
response to magnets (good and bad).

Marc
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RE: Magnets

Elizabeth thode
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Hi
Charles!

Hmm...very
interesting perspective you have.

However,
I disagree and I’ll tell you why.  

First
of all, I’ve seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress,
in situations where nothing else worked.

Which
would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients
are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the
purest  nutrients/ supplements would be
wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients.

As
toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many
illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of “why” the
body isn’t able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins.

Secondly,
I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals.
This begs the question of:  how can all
forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals?

My
working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf
fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out
of alignment.

Could
it be, that the  body normally operates
on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off
South/Positive Ions?  And when the body
is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the
cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply
Magnetic Field Deficiency.

 

Which
is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are
plentiful.

Simply
translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless
radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the body’s own natural “field” to become
over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction.

Barrie
Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that  wifi “entrains” the brain cells. To me, this
means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field.

True
enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed
made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as there’s have
a good track record of being correctly “labeled”.

 

And
think about this?

What
is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the
ground,  in a natural setting? What ions
are their body’s being exposed to?

 

Lizzie


 > To: [hidden email]

> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>
> Lesson:
>
> Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic.
> So, also from DC magnetic fields.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Emsisoft
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Elizabeth thode
>   To: [hidden email]
>   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM
>   Subject: [eSens] Magnets
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   On Magnet therapy:  Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation 
>
>    
>
>   As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in “The Body Electric,”
>
>   our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven
>   trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses.
>
>    
>
>   These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted
>   by the electropollution around us,
>
>    
>
>   especially when frequency wavelengthis in the
>   brainwave region (0-33 hertz),
>
>   or matches up with and resonates with
>   electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body.
>
>    
>
>   Becker also found that healing only takes
>   place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged.
>
>    
>
>   When it turns positive, the healing process
>   shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is
>   fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields
>
>   and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR.
>
>    
>
>   Lizzie
>
>          
>
>   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: Magnets

Elizabeth thode
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I take it Marc, you did at some time read Robert Becker's book?

 

The following info is taken
from both his work and the article: http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation

 

Every
moment of every day, invisible fields of electrons are striking our bodies like
tiny darts, triggering dozens of bio-chemical reactions,

which
undermine our health and stealthily lay the groundwork for disease.

 

How does
this happen? As Nobel-prize nominee,

 

Dr.
Robert Beckerdescribed in “The Body Electric,”

our
brains; our hearts and every one of the seven trillion cells in our bodies
operate on electrical impulses.

 

These
minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted by the electropollution
around us,

 

especially
when frequency wavelength is in the brainwave region (0-33 hertz),

or
matches up with and resonates with electrically-charged particles like ions and
chemicals or organs of the body.

 

Becker
also found that healing only takes place if the current at the point of injury
is negatively charged.

 

When
it turns positive, the healing process shuts down. So, even our
ability to heal is fundamentally

dependent
upon electrical fields and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR.

 

 

 

 

 

 


 
 
  NORTH POLE

  ( - ) Negative magnetic field energy:

 

  Increases
  cellular oxygen *

  Pulls fluids & gases

  Reduces
  fluid retention

  Encourages
  deep restorative sleep

  Fights
  infection

  Promotes
  mental acuity

  supports
  biological healing

  Reduces
  inflammation

  Normalizes
  acid base balance

  Relieves/stops
  pain

  Reduces/dissolves
  fatty deposits

  Reduces
  dissolves calcium deposits
 
 
 
  SOUTH POLE

  ( + ) Positive magnetic field energy:

 

  Decreases
  cellular oxygen *

  Pushes fluids & gases

  Increases
  intracellular edema

  Stimulates
  wakefulness

  Accelerates
  micro-organism growth

  Inhibits
  biological healing

  Can
  increase inflammation

  pH
  level becomes more acidic

  Increases
  pain

  Encourages
  fat depositing
 
 


 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  www.azunimags.com/

Each Mini-Block
Biomagnet measures:

{ 1-7/8" x
7/8" x 3/8" thick }

Each Magnet Is Rated
3,950 gauss @ core minimum

 

So while yes, these
are small magnets, they are actually fairly powerful, but when used as I have
described,

 

powerful enough to
help re store the body's polarity, without causing any harm.

 P. S.  I do know of several who tried magnets, and they did not have good success. When I inquired as to "what kind of magnets" used, I was always told they tried the Bi-Polar Magnets, these haveboth North and South. They didn't necessarily call the magnets Bi Polar, but they did point out where they got them from. The ones in this article, are ONLY from the listed company, and ONLY used North Side facing the skin and North facing the skinis the ONLY way I use mine.  I have myself, tested many magnetic products , and found thatmany co's are selling magnetics that are labeled: North, when they are actually South!  There is much confusion among magnetic company's and how they label magnets.   Which is why I only use the magnets from theabove company, as they are labeled correctly, which has everything to do with, WHYthey work, and not hinder.  

Lizzie

 

 


 
 
 

 

   
 
 
   
 
 

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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:00:13 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
















 



 


   
     
     
      On August 10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic.

> So, also from DC magnetic fields.



Although Lizzie reported feeling better when putting a small magnet

on her body, so it seems that (as usual) there is a wide range of

response to magnets (good and bad).



Marc



   
     

   
   






       

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Re: Magnets

charles-4
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Hello Lizzie,

I wrote *electrosensitive people*.

Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people.
Not for *electrosensitives*.

Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields.
Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields.
He only wrote about AC fields.
You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions.

I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower.
But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V.
There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone.

Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Elizabeth thode
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM
  Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets



   

  Hi
  Charles!

  Hmm...very
  interesting perspective you have.

  However,
  I disagree and I’ll tell you why.  

  First
  of all, I’ve seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress,
  in situations where nothing else worked.

  Which
  would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients
  are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the
  purest  nutrients/ supplements would be
  wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients.

  As
  toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many
  illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of “why” the
  body isn’t able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins.

  Secondly,
  I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals.
  This begs the question of:  how can all
  forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals?

  My
  working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf
  fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out
  of alignment.

  Could
  it be, that the  body normally operates
  on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off
  South/Positive Ions?  And when the body
  is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the
  cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply
  Magnetic Field Deficiency.

   

  Which
  is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are
  plentiful.

  Simply
  translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless
  radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the body’s own natural “field” to become
  over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction.

  Barrie
  Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that  wifi “entrains” the brain cells. To me, this
  means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field.

  True
  enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed
  made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as there’s have
  a good track record of being correctly “labeled”.

   

  And
  think about this?

  What
  is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the
  ground,  in a natural setting? What ions
  are their body’s being exposed to?

   

  Lizzie


   > To: [hidden email]
  > From: [hidden email]
  > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200
  > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
  >
  > Lesson:
  >
  > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic.
  > So, also from DC magnetic fields.
  >
  > Greetings,
  > Charles Claessens
  > member Verband Baubiologie
  > www.milieuziektes.nl
  > www.milieuziektes.be
  > www.hetbitje.nl
  > checked by Emsisoft
  >
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Elizabeth thode
  >   To: [hidden email]
  >   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM
  >   Subject: [eSens] Magnets
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >   On Magnet therapy:  Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation 
  >
  >    
  >
  >   As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in “The Body Electric,”
  >
  >   our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven
  >   trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses.
  >
  >    
  >
  >   These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted
  >   by the electropollution around us,
  >
  >    
  >
  >   especially when frequency wavelengthis in the
  >   brainwave region (0-33 hertz),
  >
  >   or matches up with and resonates with
  >   electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body.
  >
  >    
  >
  >   Becker also found that healing only takes
  >   place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged.
  >
  >    
  >
  >   When it turns positive, the healing process
  >   shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is
  >   fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields
  >
  >   and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR.
  >
  >    
  >
  >   Lizzie
  >
  >          
  >
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RE: Magnets

Elizabeth thode

 

Hi
Charles!

Love
that part: “normal people”.

I
think it’s going to come down to people trying this and seeing if it helps or
not. I totally agree, there are those who are extremely sensitive.

My
daughter was a “walking  meter” for all
kinds of fields. She is now no longer ES, after two and a half years of being
severely ES. Your protocols are similar to mine, in many ways. Very thorough
and impressive.

Again,
the magnet use is just one piece of a multi protocol. And what my daughter was
exposed to runs the gamut of extremely:  high electric fields, magnetic fields, dirty
electricity, and current in the water.

Suffice
it to say, the emf  loads combined with
environmental loads- were off the charts. What she was exposed to, long term,
causes Leukemia/ cancer clusters in children, just one of these fields alone. And
this was with eating organic foods for 8  years!

What’s
interesting is,  she used to “drain” the
batteries off of flashlights and her camera, within hours. She never tanned in
the sun either.

Bottom
line? ES really is a mixed bag and people will respond differently to various
treatments. It’s a matter of finding what works and what doesn’t.  P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently.

Lizzie


 > To: [hidden email]

> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:04:41 +0200
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>
> Hello Lizzie,
>
> I wrote *electrosensitive people*.
>
> Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people.
> Not for *electrosensitives*.
>
> Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields.
> Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields.
> He only wrote about AC fields.
> You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions.
>
> I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower.
> But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V.
> There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone.
>
> Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Emsisoft
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Elizabeth thode
>   To: [hidden email]
>   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM
>   Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets
>
>
>
>    
>
>   Hi
>   Charles!
>
>   Hmm...very
>   interesting perspective you have.
>
>   However,
>   I disagree and I’ll tell you why.  
>
>   First
>   of all, I’ve seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress,
>   in situations where nothing else worked.
>
>   Which
>   would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients
>   are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the
>   purest  nutrients/ supplements would be
>   wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients.
>
>   As
>   toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many
>   illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of “why” the
>   body isn’t able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins.
>
>   Secondly,
>   I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals.
>   This begs the question of:  how can all
>   forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals?
>
>   My
>   working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf
>   fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out
>   of alignment.
>
>   Could
>   it be, that the  body normally operates
>   on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off
>   South/Positive Ions?  And when the body
>   is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the
>   cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply
>   Magnetic Field Deficiency.
>
>    
>
>   Which
>   is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are
>   plentiful.
>
>   Simply
>   translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless
>   radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the body’s own natural “field” to become
>   over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction.
>
>   Barrie
>   Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that  wifi “entrains” the brain cells. To me, this
>   means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field.
>
>   True
>   enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed
>   made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as there’s have
>   a good track record of being correctly “labeled”.
>
>    
>
>   And
>   think about this?
>
>   What
>   is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the
>   ground,  in a natural setting? What ions
>   are their body’s being exposed to?
>
>    
>
>   Lizzie
>
>
>    > To: [hidden email]
>   > From: [hidden email]
>   > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200
>   > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>   >
>   > Lesson:
>   >
>   > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic.
>   > So, also from DC magnetic fields.
>   >
>   > Greetings,
>   > Charles Claessens
>   > member Verband Baubiologie
>   > www.milieuziektes.nl
>   > www.milieuziektes.be
>   > www.hetbitje.nl
>   > checked by Emsisoft
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Elizabeth thode
>   >   To: [hidden email]
>   >   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM
>   >   Subject: [eSens] Magnets
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   On Magnet therapy:  Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation 
>   >
>   >    
>   >
>   >   As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in “The Body Electric,”
>   >
>   >   our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven
>   >   trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses.
>   >
>   >    
>   >
>   >   These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted
>   >   by the electropollution around us,
>   >
>   >    
>   >
>   >   especially when frequency wavelengthis in the
>   >   brainwave region (0-33 hertz),
>   >
>   >   or matches up with and resonates with
>   >   electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body.
>   >
>   >    
>   >
>   >   Becker also found that healing only takes
>   >   place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged.
>   >
>   >    
>   >
>   >   When it turns positive, the healing process
>   >   shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is
>   >   fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields
>   >
>   >   and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR.
>   >
>   >    
>   >
>   >   Lizzie
>   >
>   >          
>   >
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ellenelle
Lizzie,

Where on his body did he place the magnet that helped him to tolerate talking on the phone?

Thanks,
Ellen

>P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently.

Lizzie


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charles-4
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Hello Lizzie,

overhere they sell *Piezo* telephones (landline), because of the magnetic fields in ordinary phones.

I have found that a common factor with electrosensitives is a chronic Calcium shortage.
And, they also do have a Calcium loss.

For that, vitamin K2 and D3 are necessary to see, that the Calcium gets in the right place in the body.

It seems that Calcium Citrate is the best form which the body absorbs.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Elizabeth thode
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:08 PM
  Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets



   

  Hi
  Charles!

  Love
  that part: “normal people”.

  I
  think it’s going to come down to people trying this and seeing if it helps or
  not. I totally agree, there are those who are extremely sensitive.

  My
  daughter was a “walking  meter” for all
  kinds of fields. She is now no longer ES, after two and a half years of being
  severely ES. Your protocols are similar to mine, in many ways. Very thorough
  and impressive.

  Again,
  the magnet use is just one piece of a multi protocol. And what my daughter was
  exposed to runs the gamut of extremely:  high electric fields, magnetic fields, dirty
  electricity, and current in the water.

  Suffice
  it to say, the emf  loads combined with
  environmental loads- were off the charts. What she was exposed to, long term,
  causes Leukemia/ cancer clusters in children, just one of these fields alone. And
  this was with eating organic foods for 8  years!

  What’s
  interesting is,  she used to “drain” the
  batteries off of flashlights and her camera, within hours. She never tanned in
  the sun either.

  Bottom
  line? ES really is a mixed bag and people will respond differently to various
  treatments. It’s a matter of finding what works and what doesn’t.  P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently.

  Lizzie


   > To: [hidden email]
  > From: [hidden email]
  > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:04:41 +0200
  > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
  >
  > Hello Lizzie,
  >
  > I wrote *electrosensitive people*.
  >
  > Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people.
  > Not for *electrosensitives*.
  >
  > Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields.
  > Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields.
  > He only wrote about AC fields.
  > You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions.
  >
  > I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower.
  > But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V.
  > There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone.
  >
  > Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets.
  >
  > Greetings,
  > Charles Claessens
  > member Verband Baubiologie
  > www.milieuziektes.nl
  > www.milieuziektes.be
  > www.hetbitje.nl
  > checked by Emsisoft
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Elizabeth thode
  >   To: [hidden email]
  >   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM
  >   Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets
  >
  >
  >
  >    
  >
  >   Hi
  >   Charles!
  >
  >   Hmm...very
  >   interesting perspective you have.
  >
  >   However,
  >   I disagree and I’ll tell you why.  
  >
  >   First
  >   of all, I’ve seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress,
  >   in situations where nothing else worked.
  >
  >   Which
  >   would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients
  >   are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the
  >   purest  nutrients/ supplements would be
  >   wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients.
  >
  >   As
  >   toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many
  >   illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of “why” the
  >   body isn’t able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins.
  >
  >   Secondly,
  >   I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals.
  >   This begs the question of:  how can all
  >   forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals?
  >
  >   My
  >   working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf
  >   fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out
  >   of alignment.
  >
  >   Could
  >   it be, that the  body normally operates
  >   on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off
  >   South/Positive Ions?  And when the body
  >   is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the
  >   cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply
  >   Magnetic Field Deficiency.
  >
  >    
  >
  >   Which
  >   is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are
  >   plentiful.
  >
  >   Simply
  >   translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless
  >   radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the body’s own natural “field” to become
  >   over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction.
  >
  >   Barrie
  >   Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that  wifi “entrains” the brain cells. To me, this
  >   means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field.
  >
  >   True
  >   enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed
  >   made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as there’s have
  >   a good track record of being correctly “labeled”.
  >
  >    
  >
  >   And
  >   think about this?
  >
  >   What
  >   is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the
  >   ground,  in a natural setting? What ions
  >   are their body’s being exposed to?
  >
  >    
  >
  >   Lizzie
  >
  >
  >    > To: [hidden email]
  >   > From: [hidden email]
  >   > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200
  >   > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
  >   >
  >   > Lesson:
  >   >
  >   > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic.
  >   > So, also from DC magnetic fields.
  >   >
  >   > Greetings,
  >   > Charles Claessens
  >   > member Verband Baubiologie
  >   > www.milieuziektes.nl
  >   > www.milieuziektes.be
  >   > www.hetbitje.nl
  >   > checked by Emsisoft
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   From: Elizabeth thode
  >   >   To: [hidden email]
  >   >   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM
  >   >   Subject: [eSens] Magnets
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   On Magnet therapy:  Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation 
  >   >
  >   >    
  >   >
  >   >   As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in “The Body Electric,”
  >   >
  >   >   our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven
  >   >   trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses.
  >   >
  >   >    
  >   >
  >   >   These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted
  >   >   by the electropollution around us,
  >   >
  >   >    
  >   >
  >   >   especially when frequency wavelengthis in the
  >   >   brainwave region (0-33 hertz),
  >   >
  >   >   or matches up with and resonates with
  >   >   electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body.
  >   >
  >   >    
  >   >
  >   >   Becker also found that healing only takes
  >   >   place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged.
  >   >
  >   >    
  >   >
  >   >   When it turns positive, the healing process
  >   >   shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is
  >   >   fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields
  >   >
  >   >   and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR.
  >   >
  >   >    
  >   >
  >   >   Lizzie
  >   >
  >   >          
  >   >
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Elizabeth thode
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Ellen,  On his Left inner ankle. (My daughter wore her's on her Left wrist, palm side up) Lizzie
 To: [hidden email]
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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:36:35 -0400
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      Lizzie,



Where on his body did he place the magnet that helped him to tolerate talking on the phone?



Thanks,

Ellen



>P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently.



Lizzie



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 Hello Charles,  Yes, calcium efflux is a well documented effect. (Some call this: calcium leaching.)Both Calcium and Vit D3 are included in my protocol. As are high quality Omega 3'sand Probiotics.   Magnesium is also necessary, as Magnesium is necessary to open/regulate the calciumchannels.  I don't know about your area, but here in the less sunny states,  Vit D3 deficiency is the norm.Again, you can take the necessary supplements, but the body HAS to be able to absorb them.  Remember: Reverse Polarity means no nutrients are "able" to get IN to the cells. It is my belief that radiation zaps all vital nutrients; just as using a micro wave oven to cookfoods depletes the nutrition in foods.  A great dis service is done in only reporting Calcium shortages, in my opinion.    I'm certain you are familiar with the research on the Chernobyl effects of radiation effects on the Thyroidgland. One of the most documented antidotes for exposures to ionising radiation is Iodine!  I always say: Radiation is radiation is radiation. The effects of nuclear "ionizing" radiation are in many ways, (depending upon: duration/dose/ proximity)the same as "non ionizing" radiation.  Lizzie> To: [hidden email]

> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:51:13 +0200
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>
> Hello Lizzie,
>
> overhere they sell *Piezo* telephones (landline), because of the magnetic fields in ordinary phones.
>
> I have found that a common factor with electrosensitives is a chronic Calcium shortage.
> And, they also do have a Calcium loss.
>
> For that, vitamin K2 and D3 are necessary to see, that the Calcium gets in the right place in the body.
>
> It seems that Calcium Citrate is the best form which the body absorbs.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Emsisoft
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Elizabeth thode
>   To: [hidden email]
>   Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:08 PM
>   Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets
>
>
>
>    
>
>   Hi
>   Charles!
>
>   Love
>   that part: “normal people”.
>
>   I
>   think it’s going to come down to people trying this and seeing if it helps or
>   not. I totally agree, there are those who are extremely sensitive.
>
>   My
>   daughter was a “walking  meter” for all
>   kinds of fields. She is now no longer ES, after two and a half years of being
>   severely ES. Your protocols are similar to mine, in many ways. Very thorough
>   and impressive.
>
>   Again,
>   the magnet use is just one piece of a multi protocol. And what my daughter was
>   exposed to runs the gamut of extremely:  high electric fields, magnetic fields, dirty
>   electricity, and current in the water.
>
>   Suffice
>   it to say, the emf  loads combined with
>   environmental loads- were off the charts. What she was exposed to, long term,
>   causes Leukemia/ cancer clusters in children, just one of these fields alone. And
>   this was with eating organic foods for 8  years!
>
>   What’s
>   interesting is,  she used to “drain” the
>   batteries off of flashlights and her camera, within hours. She never tanned in
>   the sun either.
>
>   Bottom
>   line? ES really is a mixed bag and people will respond differently to various
>   treatments. It’s a matter of finding what works and what doesn’t.  P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently.
>
>   Lizzie
>
>
>    > To: [hidden email]
>   > From: [hidden email]
>   > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:04:41 +0200
>   > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>   >
>   > Hello Lizzie,
>   >
>   > I wrote *electrosensitive people*.
>   >
>   > Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people.
>   > Not for *electrosensitives*.
>   >
>   > Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields.
>   > Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields.
>   > He only wrote about AC fields.
>   > You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions.
>   >
>   > I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower.
>   > But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V.
>   > There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone.
>   >
>   > Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets.
>   >
>   > Greetings,
>   > Charles Claessens
>   > member Verband Baubiologie
>   > www.milieuziektes.nl
>   > www.milieuziektes.be
>   > www.hetbitje.nl
>   > checked by Emsisoft
>   >
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Elizabeth thode
>   >   To: [hidden email]
>   >   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM
>   >   Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >    
>   >
>   >   Hi
>   >   Charles!
>   >
>   >   Hmm...very
>   >   interesting perspective you have.
>   >
>   >   However,
>   >   I disagree and I’ll tell you why.  
>   >
>   >   First
>   >   of all, I’ve seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress,
>   >   in situations where nothing else worked.
>   >
>   >   Which
>   >   would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients
>   >   are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the
>   >   purest  nutrients/ supplements would be
>   >   wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients.
>   >
>   >   As
>   >   toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many
>   >   illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of “why” the
>   >   body isn’t able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins.
>   >
>   >   Secondly,
>   >   I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals.
>   >   This begs the question of:  how can all
>   >   forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals?
>   >
>   >   My
>   >   working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf
>   >   fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out
>   >   of alignment.
>   >
>   >   Could
>   >   it be, that the  body normally operates
>   >   on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off
>   >   South/Positive Ions?  And when the body
>   >   is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the
>   >   cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply
>   >   Magnetic Field Deficiency.
>   >
>   >    
>   >
>   >   Which
>   >   is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are
>   >   plentiful.
>   >
>   >   Simply
>   >   translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless
>   >   radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the body’s own natural “field” to become
>   >   over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction.
>   >
>   >   Barrie
>   >   Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that  wifi “entrains” the brain cells. To me, this
>   >   means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field.
>   >
>   >   True
>   >   enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed
>   >   made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as there’s have
>   >   a good track record of being correctly “labeled”.
>   >
>   >    
>   >
>   >   And
>   >   think about this?
>   >
>   >   What
>   >   is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the
>   >   ground,  in a natural setting? What ions
>   >   are their body’s being exposed to?
>   >
>   >    
>   >
>   >   Lizzie
>   >
>   >
>   >    > To: [hidden email]
>   >   > From: [hidden email]
>   >   > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200
>   >   > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>   >   >
>   >   > Lesson:
>   >   >
>   >   > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic.
>   >   > So, also from DC magnetic fields.
>   >   >
>   >   > Greetings,
>   >   > Charles Claessens
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>   >   >   From: Elizabeth thode
>   >   >   To: [hidden email]
>   >   >   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM
>   >   >   Subject: [eSens] Magnets
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   On Magnet therapy:  Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation 
>   >   >
>   >   >    
>   >   >
>   >   >   As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in “The Body Electric,”
>   >   >
>   >   >   our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven
>   >   >   trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses.
>   >   >
>   >   >    
>   >   >
>   >   >   These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted
>   >   >   by the electropollution around us,
>   >   >
>   >   >    
>   >   >
>   >   >   especially when frequency wavelengthis in the
>   >   >   brainwave region (0-33 hertz),
>   >   >
>   >   >   or matches up with and resonates with
>   >   >   electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body.
>   >   >
>   >   >    
>   >   >
>   >   >   Becker also found that healing only takes
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>   >   >
>   >   >    
>   >   >
>   >   >   When it turns positive, the healing process
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>   >   >   fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields
>   >   >
>   >   >   and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR.
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Snoshoe
Hi Elizabeth,
You might find interesting this paper a friend and I did a few years ago, because, radiation is radiation, chemical or photon. Microwaves are ionizing, but most media hasn't corrected their thoughts on it yet.
Under files> EMF_and_RF_Emission.pdf

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Snoshoe
More on magnets. I know they can be bad for some of the people here,
but they do seem to do good things for me, north side of course.

I bought ?last year, a mattress pad with them, and even though it isn't
strong enough for me, it does seem to help with sleep some. If I take
it off the bed, which I have a couple times to retest, I can tell a noticeable difference.

What I've done then, when I decide I'm not sleeping well, and don't want to take the bed apart in the middle of the night, is put the top
side down over the covers, and that actually feels really good. What
I found is if you wrap yourself in it, it seems to feel much, much
better, though that is too hot and a bother for sleeping long.

I think it is because you are getting that nice negative ion/north field
all around you, and it's helping keep other stuff out. If I could feel
that way during the day, it would be nice. Magnets don't relieve my head
very much when it's really bad, but it does seem to help some, using one applied to whatever area emf seems to be coming from, when you can tell the direction. I think that is because it is helping avert at least some of the depolarization that goes on in the brain, when it happens. Or trying that after driving through a bad spot, seems to at least relieve some of the pressure and muddy thought, again, I think because it is realigning what was knocked out of whack.

I also like the Nikken insoles. Now those, the first couple days I could
only use a little at a time, but no problem wearing them all day anymore.

~ Snoshoe



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Cheryl Griffing-2
Hi Snoshoe,

I also really like the Nikken insoles. I have been wearing them for about 14 years now. I feel that they give me more energy. As each pair wears out I reorder from ebay which is about half what you would pay directly from Nikken.

Thanks for the info about the mattress pad. Interesting.

Cheryl



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 From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:10 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Magnets
 

 
More on magnets. I know they can be bad for some of the people here,
but they do seem to do good things for me, north side of course.

I bought ?last year, a mattress pad with them, and even though it isn't
strong enough for me, it does seem to help with sleep some. If I take
it off the bed, which I have a couple times to retest, I can tell a noticeable difference.

What I've done then, when I decide I'm not sleeping well, and don't want to take the bed apart in the middle of the night, is put the top
side down over the covers, and that actually feels really good. What
I found is if you wrap yourself in it, it seems to feel much, much
better, though that is too hot and a bother for sleeping long.

I think it is because you are getting that nice negative ion/north field
all around you, and it's helping keep other stuff out. If I could feel
that way during the day, it would be nice. Magnets don't relieve my head
very much when it's really bad, but it does seem to help some, using one applied to whatever area emf seems to be coming from, when you can tell the direction. I think that is because it is helping avert at least some of the depolarization that goes on in the brain, when it happens. Or trying that after driving through a bad spot, seems to at least relieve some of the pressure and muddy thought, again, I think because it is realigning what was knocked out of whack.

I also like the Nikken insoles. Now those, the first couple days I could
only use a little at a time, but no problem wearing them all day anymore.

~ Snoshoe


 

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Steph Smith
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Hi Lizzie

Would you send me your protocol - i am doing the following

fish oils
vit d3 
vit b12 [but by sublingual tablet not injection since docs here won't do injections unless you have pernicious anaemia]
ginger
boswellia [for inflammation - but am going to try your magnets idea!!!]
vit e
vit c
milk thistle
selenium
zinc
small amount of himalaya salt
choline bitartrate [to help liver and gall bladder - both have improved since I introduced this]

I have tried to research these supps as much as I can but would be interested in your advice

I have tried a calmag citrate combo but my body didn't tolerate it so try to get calcium via diet and am going to start epsom salts baths for the mag.

Thanks

Steph



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 From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012, 16:15
Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets
 


Hello Charles,  Yes, calcium efflux is a well documented effect. (Some call this: calcium leaching.)Both Calcium and Vit D3 are included in my protocol. As are high quality Omega 3'sand Probiotics.   Magnesium is also necessary, as Magnesium is necessary to open/regulate the calciumchannels.  I don't know about your area, but here in the less sunny states,  Vit D3 deficiency is the norm.Again, you can take the necessary supplements, but the body HAS to be able to absorb them.  Remember: Reverse Polarity means no nutrients are "able" to get IN to the cells. It is my belief that radiation zaps all vital nutrients; just as using a micro wave oven to cookfoods depletes the nutrition in foods.  A great dis service is done in only reporting Calcium shortages, in my opinion.    I'm certain you are familiar with the research on the Chernobyl effects of radiation effects on the Thyroidgland. One of the most documented antidotes for exposures to ionising
 radiation is Iodine!  I always say: Radiation is radiation is radiation. The effects of nuclear "ionizing" radiation are in many ways, (depending upon: duration/dose/ proximity)the same as "non ionizing" radiation.  Lizzie> To: [hidden email]

> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:51:13 +0200
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>
> Hello Lizzie,
>
> overhere they sell *Piezo* telephones (landline), because of the magnetic fields in ordinary phones.
>
> I have found that a common factor with electrosensitives is a chronic Calcium shortage.
> And, they also do have a Calcium loss.
>
> For that, vitamin K2 and D3 are necessary to see, that the Calcium gets in the right place in the body.
>
> It seems that Calcium Citrate is the best form which the body absorbs.
>
> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
> member Verband Baubiologie
> www.milieuziektes.nl
> www.milieuziektes.be
> www.hetbitje.nl
> checked by Emsisoft
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Elizabeth thode
>   To: [hidden email]
>   Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:08 PM
>   Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets
>
>
>
>   
>
>   Hi
>   Charles!
>
>   Love
>   that part: “normal people”.
>
>   I
>   think it’s going to come down to people trying this and seeing if it helps or
>   not. I totally agree, there are those who are extremely sensitive.
>
>   My
>   daughter was a “walking  meter” for all
>   kinds of fields. She is now no longer ES, after two and a half years of being
>   severely ES. Your protocols are similar to mine, in many ways. Very thorough
>   and impressive.
>
>   Again,
>   the magnet use is just one piece of a multi protocol. And what my daughter was
>   exposed to runs the gamut of extremely:  high electric fields, magnetic fields, dirty
>   electricity, and current in the water.
>
>   Suffice
>   it to say, the emf  loads combined with
>   environmental loads- were off the charts. What she was exposed to, long term,
>   causes Leukemia/ cancer clusters in children, just one of these fields alone. And
>   this was with eating organic foods for 8  years!
>
>   What’s
>   interesting is,  she used to “drain” the
>   batteries off of flashlights and her camera, within hours. She never tanned in
>   the sun either.
>
>   Bottom
>   line? ES really is a mixed bag and people will respond differently to various
>   treatments. It’s a matter of finding what works and what doesn’t.  P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently.
>
>   Lizzie
>
>
>    > To: [hidden email]
>   > From: [hidden email]
>   > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:04:41 +0200
>   > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>   >
>   > Hello Lizzie,
>   >
>   > I wrote *electrosensitive people*.
>   >
>   > Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people.
>   > Not for *electrosensitives*.
>   >
>   > Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields.
>   > Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields.
>   > He only wrote about AC fields.
>   > You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions.
>   >
>   > I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower.
>   > But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V.
>   > There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone.
>   >
>   > Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets.
>   >
>   > Greetings,
>   > Charles Claessens
>   > member Verband Baubiologie
>   > www.milieuziektes.nl
>   > www.milieuziektes.be
>   > www.hetbitje.nl
>   > checked by Emsisoft
>   >
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Elizabeth thode
>   >   To: [hidden email]
>   >   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM
>   >   Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   
>   >
>   >   Hi
>   >   Charles!
>   >
>   >   Hmm...very
>   >   interesting perspective you have.
>   >
>   >   However,
>   >   I disagree and I’ll tell you why. 
>   >
>   >   First
>   >   of all, I’ve seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress,
>   >   in situations where nothing else worked.
>   >
>   >   Which
>   >   would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients
>   >   are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the
>   >   purest  nutrients/ supplements would be
>   >   wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients.
>   >
>   >   As
>   >   toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many
>   >   illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of “why” the
>   >   body isn’t able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins.
>   >
>   >   Secondly,
>   >   I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals.
>   >   This begs the question of:  how can all
>   >   forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals?
>   >
>   >   My
>   >   working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf
>   >   fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out
>   >   of alignment.
>   >
>   >   Could
>   >   it be, that the  body normally operates
>   >   on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off
>   >   South/Positive Ions?  And when the body
>   >   is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the
>   >   cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply
>   >   Magnetic Field Deficiency.
>   >
>   >   
>   >
>   >   Which
>   >   is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are
>   >   plentiful.
>   >
>   >   Simply
>   >   translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless
>   >   radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the body’s own natural “field” to become
>   >   over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction.
>   >
>   >   Barrie
>   >   Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that  wifi “entrains” the brain cells. To me, this
>   >   means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field.
>   >
>   >   True
>   >   enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed
>   >   made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as there’s have
>   >   a good track record of being correctly “labeled”.
>   >
>   >   
>   >
>   >   And
>   >   think about this?
>   >
>   >   What
>   >   is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the
>   >   ground,  in a natural setting? What ions
>   >   are their body’s being exposed to?
>   >
>   >   
>   >
>   >   Lizzie
>   >
>   >
>   >    > To: [hidden email]
>   >   > From: [hidden email]
>   >   > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200
>   >   > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets
>   >   >
>   >   > Lesson:
>   >   >
>   >   > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic.
>   >   > So, also from DC magnetic fields.
>   >   >
>   >   > Greetings,
>   >   > Charles Claessens
>   >   > member Verband Baubiologie
>   >   > www.milieuziektes.nl
>   >   > www.milieuziektes.be
>   >   > www.hetbitje.nl
>   >   > checked by Emsisoft
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>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   >   From: Elizabeth thode
>   >   >   To: [hidden email]
>   >   >   Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM
>   >   >   Subject: [eSens] Magnets
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   On Magnet therapy:  Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation 
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in “The Body Electric,”
>   >   >
>   >   >   our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven
>   >   >   trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses.
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted
>   >   >   by the electropollution around us,
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   especially when frequency wavelengthis in the
>   >   >   brainwave region (0-33 hertz),
>   >   >
>   >   >   or matches up with and resonates with
>   >   >   electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body.
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   Becker also found that healing only takes
>   >   >   place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged.
>   >   >
>   >   >   
>   >   >
>   >   >   When it turns positive, the healing process
>   >   >   shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is
>   >   >   fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields
>   >   >
>   >   >   and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR.
>   >   >
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>   >   >
>   >   >   Lizzie
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Steph Smith
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Hi Snoshoe

Where do you get the Nikken insoles and the magnet impregnated mattress pad???
they both sound great and I am in a place right now where I would try anything and everything!!!
Thanks
Steph


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To: [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 17:10
Subject: [eSens] Re: Magnets
 

 
More on magnets. I know they can be bad for some of the people here,
but they do seem to do good things for me, north side of course.

I bought ?last year, a mattress pad with them, and even though it isn't
strong enough for me, it does seem to help with sleep some. If I take
it off the bed, which I have a couple times to retest, I can tell a noticeable difference.

What I've done then, when I decide I'm not sleeping well, and don't want to take the bed apart in the middle of the night, is put the top
side down over the covers, and that actually feels really good. What
I found is if you wrap yourself in it, it seems to feel much, much
better, though that is too hot and a bother for sleeping long.

I think it is because you are getting that nice negative ion/north field
all around you, and it's helping keep other stuff out. If I could feel
that way during the day, it would be nice. Magnets don't relieve my head
very much when it's really bad, but it does seem to help some, using one applied to whatever area emf seems to be coming from, when you can tell the direction. I think that is because it is helping avert at least some of the depolarization that goes on in the brain, when it happens. Or trying that after driving through a bad spot, seems to at least relieve some of the pressure and muddy thought, again, I think because it is realigning what was knocked out of whack.

I also like the Nikken insoles. Now those, the first couple days I could
only use a little at a time, but no problem wearing them all day anymore.

~ Snoshoe


 

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