On Magnet therapy: Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in The Body Electric, our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses. These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted by the electropollution around us, especially when frequency wavelengthis in the brainwave region (0-33 hertz), or matches up with and resonates with electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body. Becker also found that healing only takes place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged. When it turns positive, the healing process shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR. Lizzie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic. So, also from DC magnetic fields. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth thode To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM Subject: [eSens] Magnets On Magnet therapy: Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in The Body Electric, our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses. These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted by the electropollution around us, especially when frequency wavelengthis in the brainwave region (0-33 hertz), or matches up with and resonates with electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body. Becker also found that healing only takes place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged. When it turns positive, the healing process shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR. Lizzie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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> Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic. > So, also from DC magnetic fields. Although Lizzie reported feeling better when putting a small magnet on her body, so it seems that (as usual) there is a wide range of response to magnets (good and bad). Marc |
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Hi Charles! Hmm...very interesting perspective you have. However, I disagree and Ill tell you why. First of all, Ive seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress, in situations where nothing else worked. Which would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the purest nutrients/ supplements would be wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients. As toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of why the body isnt able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins. Secondly, I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals. This begs the question of: how can all forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals? My working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out of alignment. Could it be, that the body normally operates on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off South/Positive Ions? And when the body is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply Magnetic Field Deficiency. Which is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are plentiful. Simply translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the bodys own natural field to become over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction. Barrie Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that wifi entrains the brain cells. To me, this means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field. True enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as theres have a good track record of being correctly labeled. And think about this? What is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the ground, in a natural setting? What ions are their bodys being exposed to? Lizzie > To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > Lesson: > > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic. > So, also from DC magnetic fields. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Emsisoft > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elizabeth thode > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM > Subject: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > > On Magnet therapy: Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation > > > > As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in The Body Electric, > > our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven > trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses. > > > > These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted > by the electropollution around us, > > > > especially when frequency wavelengthis in the > brainwave region (0-33 hertz), > > or matches up with and resonates with > electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body. > > > > Becker also found that healing only takes > place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged. > > > > When it turns positive, the healing process > shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is > fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields > > and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR. > > > > Lizzie > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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I take it Marc, you did at some time read Robert Becker's book? The following info is taken from both his work and the article: http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation Every moment of every day, invisible fields of electrons are striking our bodies like tiny darts, triggering dozens of bio-chemical reactions, which undermine our health and stealthily lay the groundwork for disease. How does this happen? As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Beckerdescribed in The Body Electric, our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses. These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted by the electropollution around us, especially when frequency wavelength is in the brainwave region (0-33 hertz), or matches up with and resonates with electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body. Becker also found that healing only takes place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged. When it turns positive, the healing process shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR. NORTH POLE ( - ) Negative magnetic field energy: Increases cellular oxygen * Pulls fluids & gases Reduces fluid retention Encourages deep restorative sleep Fights infection Promotes mental acuity supports biological healing Reduces inflammation Normalizes acid base balance Relieves/stops pain Reduces/dissolves fatty deposits Reduces dissolves calcium deposits SOUTH POLE ( + ) Positive magnetic field energy: Decreases cellular oxygen * Pushes fluids & gases Increases intracellular edema Stimulates wakefulness Accelerates micro-organism growth Inhibits biological healing Can increase inflammation pH level becomes more acidic Increases pain Encourages fat depositing www.azunimags.com/ Each Mini-Block Biomagnet measures: { 1-7/8" x 7/8" x 3/8" thick } Each Magnet Is Rated 3,950 gauss @ core minimum So while yes, these are small magnets, they are actually fairly powerful, but when used as I have described, powerful enough to help re store the body's polarity, without causing any harm. P. S. I do know of several who tried magnets, and they did not have good success. When I inquired as to "what kind of magnets" used, I was always told they tried the Bi-Polar Magnets, these haveboth North and South. They didn't necessarily call the magnets Bi Polar, but they did point out where they got them from. The ones in this article, are ONLY from the listed company, and ONLY used North Side facing the skin and North facing the skinis the ONLY way I use mine. I have myself, tested many magnetic products , and found thatmany co's are selling magnetics that are labeled: North, when they are actually South! There is much confusion among magnetic company's and how they label magnets. Which is why I only use the magnets from theabove company, as they are labeled correctly, which has everything to do with, WHYthey work, and not hinder. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:00:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets On August 10, charles <[hidden email]> wrote: > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic. > So, also from DC magnetic fields. Although Lizzie reported feeling better when putting a small magnet on her body, so it seems that (as usual) there is a wide range of response to magnets (good and bad). Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [hidden email] [hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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Hello Lizzie,
I wrote *electrosensitive people*. Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people. Not for *electrosensitives*. Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields. Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields. He only wrote about AC fields. You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions. I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower. But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V. There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone. Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth thode To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets Hi Charles! Hmm...very interesting perspective you have. However, I disagree and Ill tell you why. First of all, Ive seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress, in situations where nothing else worked. Which would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the purest nutrients/ supplements would be wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients. As toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of why the body isnt able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins. Secondly, I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals. This begs the question of: how can all forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals? My working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out of alignment. Could it be, that the body normally operates on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off South/Positive Ions? And when the body is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply Magnetic Field Deficiency. Which is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are plentiful. Simply translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the bodys own natural field to become over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction. Barrie Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that wifi entrains the brain cells. To me, this means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field. True enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as theres have a good track record of being correctly labeled. And think about this? What is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the ground, in a natural setting? What ions are their bodys being exposed to? Lizzie > To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > Lesson: > > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic. > So, also from DC magnetic fields. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Emsisoft > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elizabeth thode > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM > Subject: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > > On Magnet therapy: Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation > > > > As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in The Body Electric, > > our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven > trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses. > > > > These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted > by the electropollution around us, > > > > especially when frequency wavelengthis in the > brainwave region (0-33 hertz), > > or matches up with and resonates with > electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body. > > > > Becker also found that healing only takes > place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged. > > > > When it turns positive, the healing process > shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is > fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields > > and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR. > > > > Lizzie > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/join (Yahoo! 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Hi Charles! Love that part: normal people. I think its going to come down to people trying this and seeing if it helps or not. I totally agree, there are those who are extremely sensitive. My daughter was a walking meter for all kinds of fields. She is now no longer ES, after two and a half years of being severely ES. Your protocols are similar to mine, in many ways. Very thorough and impressive. Again, the magnet use is just one piece of a multi protocol. And what my daughter was exposed to runs the gamut of extremely: high electric fields, magnetic fields, dirty electricity, and current in the water. Suffice it to say, the emf loads combined with environmental loads- were off the charts. What she was exposed to, long term, causes Leukemia/ cancer clusters in children, just one of these fields alone. And this was with eating organic foods for 8 years! Whats interesting is, she used to drain the batteries off of flashlights and her camera, within hours. She never tanned in the sun either. Bottom line? ES really is a mixed bag and people will respond differently to various treatments. Its a matter of finding what works and what doesnt. P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently. Lizzie > To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:04:41 +0200 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > Hello Lizzie, > > I wrote *electrosensitive people*. > > Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people. > Not for *electrosensitives*. > > Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields. > Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields. > He only wrote about AC fields. > You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions. > > I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower. > But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V. > There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone. > > Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Emsisoft > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elizabeth thode > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM > Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > Hi > Charles! > > Hmm...very > interesting perspective you have. > > However, > I disagree and Ill tell you why. > > First > of all, Ive seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress, > in situations where nothing else worked. > > Which > would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients > are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the > purest nutrients/ supplements would be > wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients. > > As > toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many > illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of why the > body isnt able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins. > > Secondly, > I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals. > This begs the question of: how can all > forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals? > > My > working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf > fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out > of alignment. > > Could > it be, that the body normally operates > on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off > South/Positive Ions? And when the body > is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the > cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply > Magnetic Field Deficiency. > > > > Which > is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are > plentiful. > > Simply > translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless > radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the bodys own natural field to become > over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction. > > Barrie > Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that wifi entrains the brain cells. To me, this > means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field. > > True > enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed > made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as theres have > a good track record of being correctly labeled. > > > > And > think about this? > > What > is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the > ground, in a natural setting? What ions > are their bodys being exposed to? > > > > Lizzie > > > > To: [hidden email] > > From: [hidden email] > > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200 > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > > > Lesson: > > > > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic. > > So, also from DC magnetic fields. > > > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > www.milieuziektes.be > > www.hetbitje.nl > > checked by Emsisoft > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Elizabeth thode > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM > > Subject: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Magnet therapy: Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation > > > > > > > > As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in The Body Electric, > > > > our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven > > trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses. > > > > > > > > These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted > > by the electropollution around us, > > > > > > > > especially when frequency wavelengthis in the > > brainwave region (0-33 hertz), > > > > or matches up with and resonates with > > electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body. > > > > > > > > Becker also found that healing only takes > > place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged. > > > > > > > > When it turns positive, the healing process > > shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is > > fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields > > > > and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR. > > > > > > > > Lizzie > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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Where on his body did he place the magnet that helped him to tolerate talking on the phone? Thanks, Ellen >P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently. Lizzie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello Lizzie,
overhere they sell *Piezo* telephones (landline), because of the magnetic fields in ordinary phones. I have found that a common factor with electrosensitives is a chronic Calcium shortage. And, they also do have a Calcium loss. For that, vitamin K2 and D3 are necessary to see, that the Calcium gets in the right place in the body. It seems that Calcium Citrate is the best form which the body absorbs. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Emsisoft ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth thode To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:08 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets Hi Charles! Love that part: normal people. I think its going to come down to people trying this and seeing if it helps or not. I totally agree, there are those who are extremely sensitive. My daughter was a walking meter for all kinds of fields. She is now no longer ES, after two and a half years of being severely ES. Your protocols are similar to mine, in many ways. Very thorough and impressive. Again, the magnet use is just one piece of a multi protocol. And what my daughter was exposed to runs the gamut of extremely: high electric fields, magnetic fields, dirty electricity, and current in the water. Suffice it to say, the emf loads combined with environmental loads- were off the charts. What she was exposed to, long term, causes Leukemia/ cancer clusters in children, just one of these fields alone. And this was with eating organic foods for 8 years! Whats interesting is, she used to drain the batteries off of flashlights and her camera, within hours. She never tanned in the sun either. Bottom line? ES really is a mixed bag and people will respond differently to various treatments. Its a matter of finding what works and what doesnt. P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently. Lizzie > To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:04:41 +0200 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > Hello Lizzie, > > I wrote *electrosensitive people*. > > Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people. > Not for *electrosensitives*. > > Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields. > Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields. > He only wrote about AC fields. > You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions. > > I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower. > But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V. > There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone. > > Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Emsisoft > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elizabeth thode > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM > Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > Hi > Charles! > > Hmm...very > interesting perspective you have. > > However, > I disagree and Ill tell you why. > > First > of all, Ive seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress, > in situations where nothing else worked. > > Which > would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients > are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the > purest nutrients/ supplements would be > wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients. > > As > toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many > illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of why the > body isnt able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins. > > Secondly, > I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals. > This begs the question of: how can all > forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals? > > My > working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf > fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out > of alignment. > > Could > it be, that the body normally operates > on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off > South/Positive Ions? And when the body > is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the > cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply > Magnetic Field Deficiency. > > > > Which > is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are > plentiful. > > Simply > translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless > radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the bodys own natural field to become > over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction. > > Barrie > Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that wifi entrains the brain cells. To me, this > means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field. > > True > enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed > made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as theres have > a good track record of being correctly labeled. > > > > And > think about this? > > What > is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the > ground, in a natural setting? What ions > are their bodys being exposed to? > > > > Lizzie > > > > To: [hidden email] > > From: [hidden email] > > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200 > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > > > Lesson: > > > > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic. > > So, also from DC magnetic fields. > > > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > www.milieuziektes.be > > www.hetbitje.nl > > checked by Emsisoft > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Elizabeth thode > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM > > Subject: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Magnet therapy: Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation > > > > > > > > As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in The Body Electric, > > > > our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven > > trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses. > > > > > > > > These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted > > by the electropollution around us, > > > > > > > > especially when frequency wavelengthis in the > > brainwave region (0-33 hertz), > > > > or matches up with and resonates with > > electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body. > > > > > > > > Becker also found that healing only takes > > place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged. > > > > > > > > When it turns positive, the healing process > > shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is > > fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields > > > > and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR. > > > > > > > > Lizzie > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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Ellen, On his Left inner ankle. (My daughter wore her's on her Left wrist, palm side up) Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:36:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets Lizzie, Where on his body did he place the magnet that helped him to tolerate talking on the phone? Thanks, Ellen >P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently. Lizzie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hello Charles, Yes, calcium efflux is a well documented effect. (Some call this: calcium leaching.)Both Calcium and Vit D3 are included in my protocol. As are high quality Omega 3'sand Probiotics. Magnesium is also necessary, as Magnesium is necessary to open/regulate the calciumchannels. I don't know about your area, but here in the less sunny states, Vit D3 deficiency is the norm.Again, you can take the necessary supplements, but the body HAS to be able to absorb them. Remember: Reverse Polarity means no nutrients are "able" to get IN to the cells. It is my belief that radiation zaps all vital nutrients; just as using a micro wave oven to cookfoods depletes the nutrition in foods. A great dis service is done in only reporting Calcium shortages, in my opinion. I'm certain you are familiar with the research on the Chernobyl effects of radiation effects on the Thyroidgland. One of the most documented antidotes for exposures to ionising radiation is Iodine! I always say: Radiation is radiation is radiation. The effects of nuclear "ionizing" radiation are in many ways, (depending upon: duration/dose/ proximity)the same as "non ionizing" radiation. Lizzie> To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:51:13 +0200 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > Hello Lizzie, > > overhere they sell *Piezo* telephones (landline), because of the magnetic fields in ordinary phones. > > I have found that a common factor with electrosensitives is a chronic Calcium shortage. > And, they also do have a Calcium loss. > > For that, vitamin K2 and D3 are necessary to see, that the Calcium gets in the right place in the body. > > It seems that Calcium Citrate is the best form which the body absorbs. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Emsisoft > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elizabeth thode > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:08 PM > Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > Hi > Charles! > > Love > that part: normal people. > > I > think its going to come down to people trying this and seeing if it helps or > not. I totally agree, there are those who are extremely sensitive. > > My > daughter was a walking meter for all > kinds of fields. She is now no longer ES, after two and a half years of being > severely ES. Your protocols are similar to mine, in many ways. Very thorough > and impressive. > > Again, > the magnet use is just one piece of a multi protocol. And what my daughter was > exposed to runs the gamut of extremely: high electric fields, magnetic fields, dirty > electricity, and current in the water. > > Suffice > it to say, the emf loads combined with > environmental loads- were off the charts. What she was exposed to, long term, > causes Leukemia/ cancer clusters in children, just one of these fields alone. And > this was with eating organic foods for 8 years! > > Whats > interesting is, she used to drain the > batteries off of flashlights and her camera, within hours. She never tanned in > the sun either. > > Bottom > line? ES really is a mixed bag and people will respond differently to various > treatments. Its a matter of finding what works and what doesnt. P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently. > > Lizzie > > > > To: [hidden email] > > From: [hidden email] > > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:04:41 +0200 > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > > > Hello Lizzie, > > > > I wrote *electrosensitive people*. > > > > Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people. > > Not for *electrosensitives*. > > > > Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields. > > Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields. > > He only wrote about AC fields. > > You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions. > > > > I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower. > > But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V. > > There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone. > > > > Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets. > > > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > www.milieuziektes.be > > www.hetbitje.nl > > checked by Emsisoft > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Elizabeth thode > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM > > Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > Charles! > > > > Hmm...very > > interesting perspective you have. > > > > However, > > I disagree and Ill tell you why. > > > > First > > of all, Ive seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress, > > in situations where nothing else worked. > > > > Which > > would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients > > are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the > > purest nutrients/ supplements would be > > wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients. > > > > As > > toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many > > illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of why the > > body isnt able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins. > > > > Secondly, > > I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals. > > This begs the question of: how can all > > forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals? > > > > My > > working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf > > fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out > > of alignment. > > > > Could > > it be, that the body normally operates > > on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off > > South/Positive Ions? And when the body > > is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the > > cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply > > Magnetic Field Deficiency. > > > > > > > > Which > > is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are > > plentiful. > > > > Simply > > translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless > > radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the bodys own natural field to become > > over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction. > > > > Barrie > > Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that wifi entrains the brain cells. To me, this > > means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field. > > > > True > > enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed > > made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as theres have > > a good track record of being correctly labeled. > > > > > > > > And > > think about this? > > > > What > > is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the > > ground, in a natural setting? What ions > > are their bodys being exposed to? > > > > > > > > Lizzie > > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > > > From: [hidden email] > > > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200 > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > Lesson: > > > > > > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic. > > > So, also from DC magnetic fields. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > Charles Claessens > > > member Verband Baubiologie > > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > > www.milieuziektes.be > > > www.hetbitje.nl > > > checked by Emsisoft > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Elizabeth thode > > > To: [hidden email] > > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM > > > Subject: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Magnet therapy: Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation > > > > > > > > > > > > As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in The Body Electric, > > > > > > our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven > > > trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses. > > > > > > > > > > > > These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted > > > by the electropollution around us, > > > > > > > > > > > > especially when frequency wavelengthis in the > > > brainwave region (0-33 hertz), > > > > > > or matches up with and resonates with > > > electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > Becker also found that healing only takes > > > place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged. > > > > > > > > > > > > When it turns positive, the healing process > > > shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is > > > fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields > > > > > > and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lizzie > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! 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Hi Elizabeth,
You might find interesting this paper a friend and I did a few years ago, because, radiation is radiation, chemical or photon. Microwaves are ionizing, but most media hasn't corrected their thoughts on it yet. Under files> EMF_and_RF_Emission.pdf ~ Snoshoe --- In [hidden email], Elizabeth thode <lizt777@...> wrote: "I always say: Radiation is radiation is radiation." |
More on magnets. I know they can be bad for some of the people here,
but they do seem to do good things for me, north side of course. I bought ?last year, a mattress pad with them, and even though it isn't strong enough for me, it does seem to help with sleep some. If I take it off the bed, which I have a couple times to retest, I can tell a noticeable difference. What I've done then, when I decide I'm not sleeping well, and don't want to take the bed apart in the middle of the night, is put the top side down over the covers, and that actually feels really good. What I found is if you wrap yourself in it, it seems to feel much, much better, though that is too hot and a bother for sleeping long. I think it is because you are getting that nice negative ion/north field all around you, and it's helping keep other stuff out. If I could feel that way during the day, it would be nice. Magnets don't relieve my head very much when it's really bad, but it does seem to help some, using one applied to whatever area emf seems to be coming from, when you can tell the direction. I think that is because it is helping avert at least some of the depolarization that goes on in the brain, when it happens. Or trying that after driving through a bad spot, seems to at least relieve some of the pressure and muddy thought, again, I think because it is realigning what was knocked out of whack. I also like the Nikken insoles. Now those, the first couple days I could only use a little at a time, but no problem wearing them all day anymore. ~ Snoshoe |
Hi Snoshoe,
I also really like the Nikken insoles. I have been wearing them for about 14 years now. I feel that they give me more energy. As each pair wears out I reorder from ebay which is about half what you would pay directly from Nikken. Thanks for the info about the mattress pad. Interesting. Cheryl ________________________________ From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:10 AM Subject: [eSens] Re: Magnets More on magnets. I know they can be bad for some of the people here, but they do seem to do good things for me, north side of course. I bought ?last year, a mattress pad with them, and even though it isn't strong enough for me, it does seem to help with sleep some. If I take it off the bed, which I have a couple times to retest, I can tell a noticeable difference. What I've done then, when I decide I'm not sleeping well, and don't want to take the bed apart in the middle of the night, is put the top side down over the covers, and that actually feels really good. What I found is if you wrap yourself in it, it seems to feel much, much better, though that is too hot and a bother for sleeping long. I think it is because you are getting that nice negative ion/north field all around you, and it's helping keep other stuff out. If I could feel that way during the day, it would be nice. Magnets don't relieve my head very much when it's really bad, but it does seem to help some, using one applied to whatever area emf seems to be coming from, when you can tell the direction. I think that is because it is helping avert at least some of the depolarization that goes on in the brain, when it happens. Or trying that after driving through a bad spot, seems to at least relieve some of the pressure and muddy thought, again, I think because it is realigning what was knocked out of whack. I also like the Nikken insoles. Now those, the first couple days I could only use a little at a time, but no problem wearing them all day anymore. ~ Snoshoe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Lizzie
Would you send me your protocol - i am doing the following fish oils vit d3 vit b12 [but by sublingual tablet not injection since docs here won't do injections unless you have pernicious anaemia] ginger boswellia [for inflammation - but am going to try your magnets idea!!!] vit e vit c milk thistle selenium zinc small amount of himalaya salt choline bitartrate [to help liver and gall bladder - both have improved since I introduced this] I have tried to research these supps as much as I can but would be interested in your advice I have tried a calmag citrate combo but my body didn't tolerate it so try to get calcium via diet and am going to start epsom salts baths for the mag. Thanks Steph ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012, 16:15 Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets Hello Charles, Yes, calcium efflux is a well documented effect. (Some call this: calcium leaching.)Both Calcium and Vit D3 are included in my protocol. As are high quality Omega 3'sand Probiotics. Magnesium is also necessary, as Magnesium is necessary to open/regulate the calciumchannels. I don't know about your area, but here in the less sunny states, Vit D3 deficiency is the norm.Again, you can take the necessary supplements, but the body HAS to be able to absorb them. Remember: Reverse Polarity means no nutrients are "able" to get IN to the cells. It is my belief that radiation zaps all vital nutrients; just as using a micro wave oven to cookfoods depletes the nutrition in foods. A great dis service is done in only reporting Calcium shortages, in my opinion. I'm certain you are familiar with the research on the Chernobyl effects of radiation effects on the Thyroidgland. One of the most documented antidotes for exposures to ionising radiation is Iodine! I always say: Radiation is radiation is radiation. The effects of nuclear "ionizing" radiation are in many ways, (depending upon: duration/dose/ proximity)the same as "non ionizing" radiation. Lizzie> To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:51:13 +0200 > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > Hello Lizzie, > > overhere they sell *Piezo* telephones (landline), because of the magnetic fields in ordinary phones. > > I have found that a common factor with electrosensitives is a chronic Calcium shortage. > And, they also do have a Calcium loss. > > For that, vitamin K2 and D3 are necessary to see, that the Calcium gets in the right place in the body. > > It seems that Calcium Citrate is the best form which the body absorbs. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Emsisoft > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elizabeth thode > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:08 PM > Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > Hi > Charles! > > Love > that part: “normal people”. > > I > think it’s going to come down to people trying this and seeing if it helps or > not. I totally agree, there are those who are extremely sensitive. > > My > daughter was a “walking meter” for all > kinds of fields. She is now no longer ES, after two and a half years of being > severely ES. Your protocols are similar to mine, in many ways. Very thorough > and impressive. > > Again, > the magnet use is just one piece of a multi protocol. And what my daughter was > exposed to runs the gamut of extremely: high electric fields, magnetic fields, dirty > electricity, and current in the water. > > Suffice > it to say, the emf loads combined with > environmental loads- were off the charts. What she was exposed to, long term, > causes Leukemia/ cancer clusters in children, just one of these fields alone. And > this was with eating organic foods for 8 years! > > What’s > interesting is, she used to “drain” the > batteries off of flashlights and her camera, within hours. She never tanned in > the sun either. > > Bottom > line? ES really is a mixed bag and people will respond differently to various > treatments. It’s a matter of finding what works and what doesn’t. P.S. I know an ES guy who used to get severely ILL from using a regular landline telephone. There are magnets in the speaker part of the handset.When I say sickened, I mean incapacitated to the point where he'd spend the rest of the day in bed! After using a magnet, North polarity side facing the skin, he is now able to USE a regular telephone without being sickened. Clearly, there IS something to this, and the magnet North side, was the ONLY thing he did differently. > > Lizzie > > > > To: [hidden email] > > From: [hidden email] > > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:04:41 +0200 > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > > > Hello Lizzie, > > > > I wrote *electrosensitive people*. > > > > Sure a magnetic therapy may help, f.i. with a *tennis-arm*, but, for only *normal* people. > > Not for *electrosensitives*. > > > > Magnets are static (DC) magnetic fields. > > Robert Becker nowhere wrote about static magnetic fields. > > He only wrote about AC fields. > > You cannot place all reports/studies/publications in one basket, and jump to conclusions. > > > > I now have experience with electrosensitive people for thirteen years, and I even managed to make their sensitivity to lower. > > But a number do not feel the mobile phone masts, DECT phones, mobile phones, smartphones, tablets and Wifi anymore. But a number of them still feel the very low fields of magnets, and batteries (accu's), even of 9V. > > There are persons who do react to the batteries of a mobile phone. > > > > Perhaps you are not sensitive enough, but I still keep warning electrosensitive people to avois magnets. > > > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > www.milieuziektes.be > > www.hetbitje.nl > > checked by Emsisoft > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Elizabeth thode > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:57 PM > > Subject: RE: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > Charles! > > > > Hmm...very > > interesting perspective you have. > > > > However, > > I disagree and I’ll tell you why. > > > > First > > of all, I’ve seen magnetic therapy work very well, resulting in great progress, > > in situations where nothing else worked. > > > > Which > > would make sense, as when the cells are spinning the wrong way, no nutrients > > are able to get IN, and no toxins are able to get OUT. This means taking the > > purest nutrients/ supplements would be > > wasted, if the body is unable to absorb these nutrients. > > > > As > > toxic overload and nutritional deficiencies are often the root cause of many > > illnesses/diseases/conditions, one would have to address the issue of “why” the > > body isn’t able to either absorb nutrients, and/or get rid of toxins. > > > > Secondly, > > I have read many articles that state the human brain contains Magnetite crystals. > > This begs the question of: how can all > > forms of magnets be bad, if the body itself, contains magnetic crystals? > > > > My > > working theory is, that when the body is exposed to strong Positive/South emf > > fields, this causes the magnetite balance to be reversed or altered, as in out > > of alignment. > > > > Could > > it be, that the body normally operates > > on Negative/North ions, and Alternating pulses from electricity gives off > > South/Positive Ions? And when the body > > is exposed to over powering fields of South magnetic fields, this causes the > > cells to spin in the wrong direction; Reverse Polarity/Inverted/ or simply > > Magnetic Field Deficiency. > > > > > > > > Which > > is also why many feel better when at the ocean, where negative/north ions are > > plentiful. > > > > Simply > > translated, a strong field, be it from dirty electricity, wifi/ wireless > > radiation, ele appliances, ect, caused the body’s own natural “field” to become > > over powered.- thus, causing the cells to spin in the wrong direction. > > > > Barrie > > Trower, a british Scientist who is expert in micro wave radiation, states that wifi “entrains” the brain cells. To me, this > > means the frequency is strong enough to over -power the brains natural field. > > > > True > > enough, there are those who have tried the Bi-Polar magnets, who were indeed > > made worse. Which is why I only use the magnets from azunemags, as there’s have > > a good track record of being correctly “labeled”. > > > > > > > > And > > think about this? > > > > What > > is it......the body is doing, when people are walking barefoot on the > > ground, in a natural setting? What ions > > are their body’s being exposed to? > > > > > > > > Lizzie > > > > > > > To: [hidden email] > > > From: [hidden email] > > > Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:45:36 +0200 > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > Lesson: > > > > > > Electrosensitives should stay (far) away from everything that is magnetic. > > > So, also from DC magnetic fields. > > > > > > Greetings, > > > Charles Claessens > > > member Verband Baubiologie > > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > > www.milieuziektes.be > > > www.hetbitje.nl > > > checked by Emsisoft > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Elizabeth thode > > > To: [hidden email] > > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 5:32 AM > > > Subject: [eSens] Magnets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Magnet therapy: Look at this paragraph, I'd forgotten all about it, until now, with the discussions about Magnets! http://www.prove-it.co/content/electropollution-and-decline-health-nation > > > > > > > > > > > > As Nobel-prize nominee, Dr. Robert Becker described in “The Body Electric,” > > > > > > our brains; our hearts and every one of the seven > > > trillion cells in our bodies operate on electrical impulses. > > > > > > > > > > > > These minuscule electrical fields can easily be disrupted > > > by the electropollution around us, > > > > > > > > > > > > especially when frequency wavelengthis in the > > > brainwave region (0-33 hertz), > > > > > > or matches up with and resonates with > > > electrically-charged particles like ions and chemicals or organs of the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > Becker also found that healing only takes > > > place if the current at the point of injury is negatively charged. > > > > > > > > > > > > When it turns positive, the healing process > > > shuts down. So, even our ability to heal is > > > fundamentally dependent upon electrical fields > > > > > > and thus subject to interference from ambient EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lizzie > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! 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Where do you get the Nikken insoles and the magnet impregnated mattress pad??? they both sound great and I am in a place right now where I would try anything and everything!!! Thanks Steph ________________________________ From: snoshoe_2 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 17:10 Subject: [eSens] Re: Magnets More on magnets. I know they can be bad for some of the people here, but they do seem to do good things for me, north side of course. I bought ?last year, a mattress pad with them, and even though it isn't strong enough for me, it does seem to help with sleep some. If I take it off the bed, which I have a couple times to retest, I can tell a noticeable difference. What I've done then, when I decide I'm not sleeping well, and don't want to take the bed apart in the middle of the night, is put the top side down over the covers, and that actually feels really good. What I found is if you wrap yourself in it, it seems to feel much, much better, though that is too hot and a bother for sleeping long. I think it is because you are getting that nice negative ion/north field all around you, and it's helping keep other stuff out. If I could feel that way during the day, it would be nice. Magnets don't relieve my head very much when it's really bad, but it does seem to help some, using one applied to whatever area emf seems to be coming from, when you can tell the direction. I think that is because it is helping avert at least some of the depolarization that goes on in the brain, when it happens. Or trying that after driving through a bad spot, seems to at least relieve some of the pressure and muddy thought, again, I think because it is realigning what was knocked out of whack. I also like the Nikken insoles. Now those, the first couple days I could only use a little at a time, but no problem wearing them all day anymore. ~ Snoshoe [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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