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Magnetic Therapy

Jennie Wassenaar
Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been 4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get a good nights sleep.

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Re: Magnetic Therapy

Cheryl Griffing-2
Hi Jennie,
 
I use Nikkon magnetic insoles to help to protect me from EMF exposure. I have found that they really do give me more energy, especially in the earlieryears of wearing them. Every time I wear a pair out - which takes quite awhile - I replace them as I feel I can't live without them. Hope this info helps you.
 
Cheryl
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From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
To: "EMS" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM


 



Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a goodnight's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been 4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chamberswith no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get a good nights sleep.

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Re: Magnetic Therapy

Loni Rosser
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Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night?  I have to go to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
To: "EMS" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM


 



Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a goodnight's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been 4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chamberswith no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get a good nights sleep.

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Re: Magnetic Therapy

Jennie Wassenaar
That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am making will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to help me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.

Have a great day,

Jennie





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From: Loni <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy


Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM



Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been 4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get a good nights sleep.

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RE: Magnetic Therapy

Ian Kemp
Hi Jennie,
Sue also had to go to a nearby park area with a lake to sleep when her ES
was at its worst. It really helped - lack of sleep was running her down even
more. Some of our friends weren't too happy with the idea, but desperate
situations need desperate remedies! It was a deserted country area, which
was paradoxically safer than a city park because there was nobody around at
all, so no danger of being disturbed by drunks, tramps etc. When Sue had
recovered a bit (and when winter arrived), she was able to sleep in the
house with the power off at night. It is a bit inconvenient, and we
eventually got the fuse box changed and had some areas (like my study and an
outhouse with the freezer) put on a separate circuit which can be left on at
night - the wires don't run anywhere near our bedroom so it gives Sue no
problems.

Ian

_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Jennie Wassenaar
Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy




That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never
thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am making
will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at
night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to help
me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.

Have a great day,

Jennie

________________________________
From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. <mailto:loni326%40yahoo.com> com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go
to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM

Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good
night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been
4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by
taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed
back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers
with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get
a good nights sleep.

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Re: Magnetic Therapy

charles-4
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Hello,

electrosensibles should avoid at all costs everything that is magnetic.

This goes for alternating as well as static magnetic fields.

And certrainly for magnetic therapies as well as magnetic inlays in shoes,
beds etc.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton

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Re: Magnetic Therapy

JBainSI
In reply to this post by Jennie Wassenaar
In a message dated 13/09/2009 10:46:59 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

>>>>>>electrosensibles should avoid at all costs everything that is
magnetic.
This goes for alternating as well as static magnetic fields.
And certrainly for magnetic therapies as well as magnetic inlays in shoes,
>>>>>>
This doesn't appear correct for everyone. A friend of mine tried
kinesiology(muscle testing) which showed him that a magnetic bracelet helped reduce
problems from mobile phones.

He's since found something better, but magnetic therapy may be worth
trying. Everyone is different.

best wishes
John
electrosensitivity.co.uk





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RE: Husbands Anonymous

Ian Kemp
In reply to this post by Jennie Wassenaar
I wonder sometimes if I should set up a group called "Husbands (or
Spouses/Partners) Anonymous" to help the partners of ES people and, hence,
ES'sers themselves! Having been through it myself I can see how tough it is
for someone when their partner starts experiencing symptoms which seem to
defy all normal experience and "common sense". It would be good to help
relationships by reassuring people that neither they nor their partner is
suffering delusions, nor is it psychosomatic, and that there are other
people around who have gone through this too.

I feel I was fortunate in that I had already gone through the "disbelief
phase" when Sue developed MCS and started reacting to perfumes, household
chemicals, weedkiller and traffic fumes. We then agreed together to try a
new doctor and we were both there when he used a machine which caused her to
start developing ES symptoms within an hour. I'd been a bit surprised at the
time that 3 Ghz microwave radiation was being used unshielded, and I knew
that neither Sue or I had ever heard of ES, so there was no danger that we
were "imagining she'd got something we'd seen on the internet". Even with
this knowledge, I still found it hard to cope over the following months as
Sue gradually became sensitive to mobile phones, computers, TV's, household
electricity and even the earpieces of normal phones, and her associated fear
as the environment around her became "unsafe". We had a complete range of
reactions from our friends, who varied from the highly supportive to the
totally incredulous, and sadly we have lost some long-standing friendships
as a result. On the other hand some casual friendships became deeper - for
example with my boss whose daughter had dust mite allergy and other mild MCS
symptoms.

Would be interested in others' views on this! Mostly it is sceptical
husbands who seem to be mentioned - not sure if wives are usually more ready
to believe, or that more women than men get ES (or both factors together).

_____

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Jennie Wassenaar
Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy




That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never
thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am making
will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at
night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to help
me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.

Have a great day,

Jennie

________________________________
From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. <mailto:loni326%40yahoo.com> com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go
to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM

Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good
night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been
4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by
taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed
back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers
with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get
a good nights sleep.

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Re: Magnetic Therapy

skolyer
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I have three magnetic mattresses. According to Jeff Rense you should put them between the box springs and the mattress and not on top of the bed. You might want to try Craig's list. I got a very expensive one for only 50 dollars from there. They say that you should put the negative side up so that it will increase the earth's electromagnetic field. Personally I think a lot of the problem is the earth's electric fields and put the positive side up so as to try to repel the field. I know that if it were me that would not be enough but they do bring a comforting feeling. I haven't lived in the city for many years but even here in the country I have a couple of masts not that far away. I use shielding but I know most people can't do a lot of that. Good luck.

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Re: Husbands Anonymous

Andrew McAfee
In reply to this post by Ian Kemp
Hey if you have the energy to start a new group for spouses and/or
other non believers or just as a support group for
believers/caregivers, that would be tremendous!
Thank you,
Andrew

On Sep 13, 2009, at 7:56 PM, Ian Kemp wrote:

> I wonder sometimes if I should set up a group called "Husbands (or
> Spouses/Partners) Anonymous" to help the partners of ES people and,
> hence,
> ES'sers themselves! Having been through it myself I can see how tough
> it is
> for someone when their partner starts experiencing symptoms which seem
> to
> defy all normal experience and "common sense". It would be good to
> help
> relationships by reassuring people that neither they nor their partner
> is
> suffering delusions, nor is it psychosomatic, and that there are other
> people around who have gone through this too.
>
> I feel I was fortunate in that I had already gone through the
> "disbelief
> phase" when Sue developed MCS and started reacting to perfumes,
> household
> chemicals, weedkiller and traffic fumes. We then agreed together to
> try a
> new doctor and we were both there when he used a machine which caused
> her to
> start developing ES symptoms within an hour. I'd been a bit surprised
> at the
> time that 3 Ghz microwave radiation was being used unshielded, and I
> knew
> that neither Sue or I had ever heard of ES, so there was no danger
> that we
> were "imagining she'd got something we'd seen on the internet". Even
> with
> this knowledge, I still found it hard to cope over the following
> months as
> Sue gradually became sensitive to mobile phones, computers, TV's,
> household
> electricity and even the earpieces of normal phones, and her
> associated fear
> as the environment around her became "unsafe". We had a complete range
> of
> reactions from our friends, who varied from the highly supportive to
> the
> totally incredulous, and sadly we have lost some long-standing
> friendships
> as a result. On the other hand some casual friendships became deeper -
> for
> example with my boss whose daughter had dust mite allergy and other
> mild MCS
> symptoms.
>
> Would be interested in others' views on this! Mostly it is sceptical
> husbands who seem to be mentioned - not sure if wives are usually more
> ready
> to believe, or that more women than men get ES (or both factors
> together).
>
> _____
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Jennie Wassenaar
> Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
>
>
>
>
> That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had
> never
> thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am
> making
> will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at
> night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience
> to help
> me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me
> know.
>
> Have a great day,
>
> Jennie
>
> ________________________________
> From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. <mailto:loni326%40yahoo.com> com>
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
>
> Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have
> to go
> to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni
>
> --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:
>
> From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
> Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
> To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM
>
> Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?
>
> I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a
> good
> night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile).
> It's been
> 4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has
> improved by
> taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear
> some feed
> back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jennie
>
> PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air
> chambers
> with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help
> me get
> a good nights sleep.
>
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RE: Husbands Anonymous

S.T.
In reply to this post by Ian Kemp
Hi Ian, yes and  while you are it, please ask if there are any available partners caregivers willing to enter a relationship with ES people, provided they wanted to help out like you are doing, as oppose to running away at the first symptom.  I hope Marc is not cringing "Is she nuts, this isnot a dating site" LOL,  I AM KIDDING. In this misery of a condition Istill find I need to laugh.
 
Ian you are doing such a great job helping your spouse that the rest ofus can only admire and congratulate your effort. 
 
 My hat off to you and those that work so hard to help their partners. Good Bless!

Sandra
 

--- On Sun, 9/13/09, Ian Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Ian Kemp <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
To: [hidden email]
Received: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 4:56 PM


 



I wonder sometimes if I should set up a group called "Husbands (or
Spouses/Partners) Anonymous" to help the partners of ES people and, hence,
ES'sers themselves! Having been through it myself I can see how tough it is
for someone when their partner starts experiencing symptoms which seem to
defy all normal experience and "common sense". It would be good to help
relationships by reassuring people that neither they nor their partner is
suffering delusions, nor is it psychosomatic, and that there are other
people around who have gone through this too.

I feel I was fortunate in that I had already gone through the "disbelief
phase" when Sue developed MCS and started reacting to perfumes, household
chemicals, weedkiller and traffic fumes. We then agreed together to try a
new doctor and we were both there when he used a machine which caused her to
start developing ES symptoms within an hour. I'd been a bit surprised at the
time that 3 Ghz microwave radiation was being used unshielded, and I knew
that neither Sue or I had ever heard of ES, so there was no danger that we
were "imagining she'd got something we'd seen on the internet". Even with
this knowledge, I still found it hard to cope over the following months as
Sue gradually became sensitive to mobile phones, computers, TV's, household
electricity and even the earpieces of normal phones, and her associated fear
as the environment around her became "unsafe". We had a complete range of
reactions from our friends, who varied from the highly supportive to the
totally incredulous, and sadly we have lost some long-standing friendships
as a result. On the other hand some casual friendships became deeper - for
example with my boss whose daughter had dust mite allergy and other mild MCS
symptoms.

Would be interested in others' views on this! Mostly it is sceptical
husbands who seem to be mentioned - not sure if wives are usually more ready
to believe, or that more women than men get ES (or both factors together).

_____

From: eSens@yahoogroups. com [mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Jennie Wassenaar
Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never
thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am making
will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at
night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to help
me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.

Have a great day,

Jennie

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. <mailto:loni326% 40yahoo.com> com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens% 40yahoogroups. com> com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go
to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM

Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good
night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been
4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by
taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed
back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers
with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get
a good nights sleep.

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RE: Husbands Anonymous

kenled2
   I'm also interested in husbands anonymous.  Both my wife and I areretired and have MCS, but only she is emf sensitive.                                       Ken

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, S.T. <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: S.T. <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:20 AM


Hi Ian, yes and  while you are it, please ask if there are any available partners caregivers willing to enter a relationship with ES people, provided they wanted to help out like you are doing, as oppose to running away at the first symptom.  I hope Marc is not cringing "Is she nuts, this isnot a dating site" LOL,  I AM KIDDING. In this misery of a condition Istill find I need to laugh.
 
Ian you are doing such a great job helping your spouse that the rest ofus can only admire and congratulate your effort. 
 
 My hat off to you and those that work so hard to help their partners. Good Bless!

Sandra
 

--- On Sun, 9/13/09, Ian Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Ian Kemp <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
To: [hidden email]
Received: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 4:56 PM


 



I wonder sometimes if I should set up a group called "Husbands (or
Spouses/Partners) Anonymous" to help the partners of ES people and, hence,
ES'sers themselves! Having been through it myself I can see how tough it is
for someone when their partner starts experiencing symptoms which seem to
defy all normal experience and "common sense". It would be good to help
relationships by reassuring people that neither they nor their partner is
suffering delusions, nor is it psychosomatic, and that there are other
people around who have gone through this too.

I feel I was fortunate in that I had already gone through the "disbelief
phase" when Sue developed MCS and started reacting to perfumes, household
chemicals, weedkiller and traffic fumes. We then agreed together to try a
new doctor and we were both there when he used a machine which caused her to
start developing ES symptoms within an hour. I'd been a bit surprised at the
time that 3 Ghz microwave radiation was being used unshielded, and I knew
that neither Sue or I had ever heard of ES, so there was no danger that we
were "imagining she'd got something we'd seen on the internet". Even with
this knowledge, I still found it hard to cope over the following months as
Sue gradually became sensitive to mobile phones, computers, TV's, household
electricity and even the earpieces of normal phones, and her associated fear
as the environment around her became "unsafe". We had a complete range of
reactions from our friends, who varied from the highly supportive to the
totally incredulous, and sadly we have lost some long-standing friendships
as a result. On the other hand some casual friendships became deeper - for
example with my boss whose daughter had dust mite allergy and other mild MCS
symptoms.

Would be interested in others' views on this! Mostly it is sceptical
husbands who seem to be mentioned - not sure if wives are usually more ready
to believe, or that more women than men get ES (or both factors together).

_____

From: eSens@yahoogroups. com [mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Jennie Wassenaar
Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never
thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am making
will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at
night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to help
me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.

Have a great day,

Jennie

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. <mailto:loni326% 40yahoo.com> com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens% 40yahoogroups. com> com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go
to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM

Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good
night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been
4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by
taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed
back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers
with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get
a good nights sleep.

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RE: Husbands Anonymous

Marc Martin
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> Ian you are doing such a great job helping your spouse that the rest of
> us can only admire and congratulate your effort. 

Yes, it'd be great if other spouses were as supportive as Ian. I'm just
happy that my wife doesn't insist on having a wireless phone in the house,
nor wireless internet, compact fluorescent lights, or dimmer switches.
It's almost like living in the stone age, except for that HDTV we have
in the living room, and I can only blame myself for that... :-)

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Loni Rosser
Ya, I could give up anything except my t.v. Takes my mind of off things youknow. Loni

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Subject: RE: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 9:44 AM


 



> Ian you are doing such a great job helping your spouse that the rest of
> us can only admire and congratulate your effort. 

Yes, it'd be great if other spouses were as supportive as Ian. I'm just
happy that my wife doesn't insist on having a wireless phone in the house,
nor wireless internet, compact fluorescent lights, or dimmer switches.
It's almost like living in the stone age, except for that HDTV we have
in the living room, and I can only blame myself for that... :-)

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Marc Martin
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> Ya, I could give up anything except my t.v. Takes my mind of off things
> you know. Loni

I find that the combination of distance and EMF protection devices
work fine for me when watching TV, even with a digital cable box
and HDTV. I watch TV from about 10 feet away, with a 37" set.

At my worst, I got symptoms even at 15 feet away from the TV.

Marc

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Loni Rosser
In reply to this post by kenled2
Ian you are a saint! This is such a great idea. My relationship has suffered severely since my injury/illness. I hope Sue know how lucky she is to have you. It is so commendable that you are on this support group trying to help her as you are. I know more than a few of us ladies would love to have apartner as open minded & caring as you are.
 
I hope that you or someone does start this group. It is soooooooo needed! Probably Partner or Spouse Anonymous as to not rule out any gender.
 
I sent it to my husband & can't wait for feedback. Loni

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From: kenneth lederman <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 8:41 AM


 



   I'm also interested in husbands anonymous.  Both my wife and I areretired and have MCS, but only she is emf sensitive.                                       Ken

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From: S.T. <stcro@rogers. com>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:20 AM

Hi Ian, yes and  while you are it, please ask if there are any available partners caregivers willing to enter a relationship with ES people, provided they wanted to help out like you are doing, as oppose to running away at the first symptom.  I hope Marc is not cringing "Is she nuts, this isnot a dating site" LOL,  I AM KIDDING. In this misery of a condition Istill find I need to laugh.
 
Ian you are doing such a great job helping your spouse that the rest ofus can only admire and congratulate your effort. 
 
 My hat off to you and those that work so hard to help their partners. Good Bless!

Sandra
 

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From: Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@ ukgateway. net>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Received: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 4:56 PM

 

I wonder sometimes if I should set up a group called "Husbands (or
Spouses/Partners) Anonymous" to help the partners of ES people and, hence,
ES'sers themselves! Having been through it myself I can see how tough it is
for someone when their partner starts experiencing symptoms which seem to
defy all normal experience and "common sense". It would be good to help
relationships by reassuring people that neither they nor their partner is
suffering delusions, nor is it psychosomatic, and that there are other
people around who have gone through this too.

I feel I was fortunate in that I had already gone through the "disbelief
phase" when Sue developed MCS and started reacting to perfumes, household
chemicals, weedkiller and traffic fumes. We then agreed together to try a
new doctor and we were both there when he used a machine which caused her to
start developing ES symptoms within an hour. I'd been a bit surprised at the
time that 3 Ghz microwave radiation was being used unshielded, and I knew
that neither Sue or I had ever heard of ES, so there was no danger that we
were "imagining she'd got something we'd seen on the internet". Even with
this knowledge, I still found it hard to cope over the following months as
Sue gradually became sensitive to mobile phones, computers, TV's, household
electricity and even the earpieces of normal phones, and her associated fear
as the environment around her became "unsafe". We had a complete range of
reactions from our friends, who varied from the highly supportive to the
totally incredulous, and sadly we have lost some long-standing friendships
as a result. On the other hand some casual friendships became deeper - for
example with my boss whose daughter had dust mite allergy and other mild MCS
symptoms.

Would be interested in others' views on this! Mostly it is sceptical
husbands who seem to be mentioned - not sure if wives are usually more ready
to believe, or that more women than men get ES (or both factors together).

_____

From: eSens@yahoogroups. com [mailto:eSens@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Jennie Wassenaar
Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never
thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am making
will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at
night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to help
me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.

Have a great day,

Jennie

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From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. <mailto:loni326% 40yahoo.com> com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens% 40yahoogroups. com> com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go
to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM

Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good
night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been
4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by
taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed
back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers
with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get
a good nights sleep.

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Jennie Wassenaar
In reply to this post by Ian Kemp
Ian,

That sounds like a great idea. This is such a strange condition, who can my husband talk to about it? We personally do not know anyone else who struggles with EMS.

I do not have the opportunity to read all the groups posts, I only open the ones whos subject line catches my eye. The irony is that I learn more about EMS on line but because I have EMS the amount of time I can spend on line is limited. But I do save all the posts to a file in hopes that one day if one of my family members is willing they can go through the saved post and garner some helpful information for me. That might be a helpful hint for a support person.

Good Luck,

Jennie


I wonder sometimes if I should set up a group called "Husbands (or
Spouses/Partners) Anonymous" to help the partners of ES people and, hence,
ES'sers themselves! Having been through it myself I can see how tough it is
for someone when their partner starts experiencing symptoms which seem to
defy all normal experience and "common sense". It would be good to help
relationships by reassuring people that neither they nor their partner is
suffering delusions, nor is it psychosomatic, and that there are other
people around who have gone through this too.

I feel I was fortunate in that I had already gone through the "disbelief
phase" when Sue developed MCS and started reacting to perfumes, household
chemicals, weedkiller and traffic fumes. We then agreed together to try a
new doctor and we were both there when he used a machine which caused her to
start developing ES symptoms within an hour. I'd been a bit surprised at the
time that 3 Ghz microwave radiation was being used unshielded, and I knew
that neither Sue or I had ever heard of ES, so there was no danger that we
were "imagining she'd got something we'd seen on the internet". Even with
this knowledge, I still found it hard to cope over the following months as
Sue gradually became sensitive to mobile phones, computers, TV's, household
electricity and even the earpieces of normal phones, and her associated fear
as the environment around her became "unsafe". We had a complete range of
reactions from our friends, who varied from the highly supportive to the
totally incredulous, and sadly we have lost some long-standing friendships
as a result. On the other hand some casual friendships became deeper - for
example with my boss whose daughter had dust mite allergy and other mild MCS
symptoms.

Would be interested in others' views on this! Mostly it is sceptical
husbands who seem to be mentioned - not sure if wives are usually more ready
to believe, or that more women than men get ES (or both factors together).

_____

From: eSens@yahoogroups. com [mailto:eSens@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Jennie Wassenaar
Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never
thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am making
will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at
night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to help
me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.

Have a great day,

Jennie

____________ _________ _________ __
From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. <mailto:loni326% 40yahoo.com> com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens% 40yahoogroups. com> com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go
to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM

Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good
night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been
4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by
taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed
back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers
with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get
a good nights sleep.

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Christina Steils
I recognized that I had ES last year, when my body crashed and i ended up in AE. Over the year I realized i had to detox from wifi mobile phones, mostimportantly clear the bedroom of Electrical devises, phone etc.
Reki helped in the early days, then Q Gong this is really a must! As it makes you understand and take control with what your body is doing under the stress of wifi and mobile phones and life.
Rose quartz under the  pillow really helped me sleep, amazing!! I hadnt slept for so long.Waking up at 4.30am each morning for months. Pins and needles, sweating dizzy etc
Make sure you arent sleeping on a  GS /  Geopathic stress, this is veryimportant. We were! Not good.
I feel much better now, dealing with  wifi and mobile masts.Mostly Just atickle/ pressure from from the phone masts at the top of the nose and brow. No more coughing when on the motorway as i go past a mast.
I still dont get to close to mobiles TV , and the computer due to EMF but have worked how to us the Mac all day, just with a ext key board. I use a projector for a TV great cinema.

Good Luck.
GilesUK


--- On Fri, 18/9/09, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, 18 September, 2009, 5:11 PM












 
 




   
Ian,



That sounds like a great idea. This is such a strange condition, who can my husband talk to about it? We personally do not know anyone else who struggles with EMS.



I do not have the opportunity to read all the groups posts, I only open theones whos subject line catches my eye. The irony is that I learn more about EMS on line but because I have EMS the amount of time I can spend on line is limited. But I do save all the posts to a file in hopes that one day if one of my family members is willing they can go through the saved post and garner some helpful information for me. That might be a helpful hint for a support person.



Good Luck,



Jennie



I wonder sometimes if I should set up a group called "Husbands (or

Spouses/Partners) Anonymous" to help the partners of ES people and, hence,

ES'sers themselves! Having been through it myself I can see how tough it is

for someone when their partner starts experiencing symptoms which seem to

defy all normal experience and "common sense". It would be good to help

relationships by reassuring people that neither they nor their partner is

suffering delusions, nor is it psychosomatic, and that there are other

people around who have gone through this too.



I feel I was fortunate in that I had already gone through the "disbelief

phase" when Sue developed MCS and started reacting to perfumes, household

chemicals, weedkiller and traffic fumes. We then agreed together to try a

new doctor and we were both there when he used a machine which caused her to

start developing ES symptoms within an hour. I'd been a bit surprised at the

time that 3 Ghz microwave radiation was being used unshielded, and I knew

that neither Sue or I had ever heard of ES, so there was no danger that we

were "imagining she'd got something we'd seen on the internet". Even with

this knowledge, I still found it hard to cope over the following months as

Sue gradually became sensitive to mobile phones, computers, TV's, household

electricity and even the earpieces of normal phones, and her associated fear

as the environment around her became "unsafe". We had a complete range of

reactions from our friends, who varied from the highly supportive to the

totally incredulous, and sadly we have lost some long-standing friendships

as a result. On the other hand some casual friendships became deeper - for

example with my boss whose daughter had dust mite allergy and other mild MCS

symptoms.



Would be interested in others' views on this! Mostly it is sceptical

husbands who seem to be mentioned - not sure if wives are usually more ready

to believe, or that more women than men get ES (or both factors together).



_____



From: eSens@yahoogroups. com [mailto:eSens@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

Jennie Wassenaar

Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy



That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never

thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am making

will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at

night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to help

me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.



Have a great day,



Jennie



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From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. <mailto:loni326% 40yahoo.com> com>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens% 40yahoogroups. com> com

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy



Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go

to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni



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From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM



Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?



I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good

night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been

4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by

taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed

back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.



Thanks,



Jennie



PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers

with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get

a good nights sleep.



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angela england
COULD YOU PLEASE SPECIFY WHAT IS REKI AND Q GONG?   ALSO, WHERE DO YOU FIND A KEYBOARD EXTENSION AND TV PROJECTOR?  THANKS,  MIKE

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From: Christina Steils <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:46 AM


 



I recognized that I had ES last year, when my body crashed and i ended up in AE. Over the year I realized i had to detox from wifi mobile phones, mostimportantly clear the bedroom of Electrical devises, phone etc.
Reki helped in the early days, then Q Gong this is really a must! As it makes you understand and take control with what your body is doing under the stress of wifi and mobile phones and life.
Rose quartz under the  pillow really helped me sleep, amazing!! I hadnt slept for so long.Waking up at 4.30am each morning for months. Pins and needles, sweating dizzy etc
Make sure you arent sleeping on a  GS /  Geopathic stress, this is veryimportant. We were! Not good.
I feel much better now, dealing with  wifi and mobile masts.Mostly Just atickle/ pressure from from the phone masts at the top of the nose and brow. No more coughing when on the motorway as i go past a mast.
I still dont get to close to mobiles TV , and the computer due to EMF but have worked how to us the Mac all day, just with a ext key board. I use a projector for a TV great cinema.

Good Luck.
GilesUK

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From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, 18 September, 2009, 5:11 PM

 

Ian,

That sounds like a great idea. This is such a strange condition, who can myhusband talk to about it? We personally do not know anyone else who struggles with EMS.

I do not have the opportunity to read all the groups posts, I only open theones whos subject line catches my eye. The irony is that I learn more about EMS on line but because I have EMS the amount of time I can spend on lineis limited. But I do save all the posts to a file in hopes that one day ifone of my family members is willing they can go through the saved post andgarner some helpful information for me. That might be a helpful hint for asupport person.

Good Luck,

Jennie

I wonder sometimes if I should set up a group called "Husbands (or

Spouses/Partners) Anonymous" to help the partners of ES people and, hence,

ES'sers themselves! Having been through it myself I can see how tough it is

for someone when their partner starts experiencing symptoms which seem to

defy all normal experience and "common sense". It would be good to help

relationships by reassuring people that neither they nor their partner is

suffering delusions, nor is it psychosomatic, and that there are other

people around who have gone through this too.

I feel I was fortunate in that I had already gone through the "disbelief

phase" when Sue developed MCS and started reacting to perfumes, household

chemicals, weedkiller and traffic fumes. We then agreed together to try a

new doctor and we were both there when he used a machine which caused her to

start developing ES symptoms within an hour. I'd been a bit surprised at the

time that 3 Ghz microwave radiation was being used unshielded, and I knew

that neither Sue or I had ever heard of ES, so there was no danger that we

were "imagining she'd got something we'd seen on the internet". Even with

this knowledge, I still found it hard to cope over the following months as

Sue gradually became sensitive to mobile phones, computers, TV's, household

electricity and even the earpieces of normal phones, and her associated fear

as the environment around her became "unsafe". We had a complete range of

reactions from our friends, who varied from the highly supportive to the

totally incredulous, and sadly we have lost some long-standing friendships

as a result. On the other hand some casual friendships became deeper - for

example with my boss whose daughter had dust mite allergy and other mild MCS

symptoms.

Would be interested in others' views on this! Mostly it is sceptical

husbands who seem to be mentioned - not sure if wives are usually more ready

to believe, or that more women than men get ES (or both factors together).

_____

From: eSens@yahoogroups. com [mailto:eSens@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of

Jennie Wassenaar

Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07

To: eSens@yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never

thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am making

will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at

night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to help

me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.

Have a great day,

Jennie

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. <mailto:loni326% 40yahoo.com> com>

To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens% 40yahoogroups. com> com

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go

to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>

Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy

To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>

Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM

Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good

night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been

4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by

taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed

back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers

with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get

a good nights sleep.

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BiBrun
I would like to know which projectors people have had success with, and at
what distance. The LED mini projectors are promising but so far they
are not very good resolution.
Bill

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:53 AM, angela england <[hidden email]>wrote:

>
>
> COULD YOU PLEASE SPECIFY WHAT IS REKI AND Q GONG? ALSO, WHERE DO YOU FIND
> A KEYBOARD EXTENSION AND TV PROJECTOR? THANKS, MIKE
>
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> wrote:
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> From: Christina Steils <[hidden email] <csteils%40yahoo.co.uk>>
>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 10:46 AM
>
>
>
>
> I recognized that I had ES last year, when my body crashed and i ended up
> in AE. Over the year I realized i had to detox from wifi mobile phones, most
> importantly clear the bedroom of Electrical devises, phone etc.
> Reki helped in the early days, then Q Gong this is really a must! As it
> makes you understand and take control with what your body is doing under the
> stress of wifi and mobile phones and life.
> Rose quartz under the pillow really helped me sleep, amazing!! I hadnt
> slept for so long.Waking up at 4.30am each morning for months. Pins and
> needles, sweating dizzy etc
> Make sure you arent sleeping on a GS / Geopathic stress, this is very
> important. We were! Not good.
> I feel much better now, dealing with wifi and mobile masts.Mostly Just a
> tickle/ pressure from from the phone masts at the top of the nose and
> brow. No more coughing when on the motorway as i go past a mast.
> I still dont get to close to mobiles TV , and the computer due to EMF but
> have worked how to us the Mac all day, just with a ext key board. I use a
> projector for a TV great cinema.
>
> Good Luck.
> GilesUK
>
> --- On Fri, 18/9/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:
>
> From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Husbands Anonymous
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, 18 September, 2009, 5:11 PM
>
>
>
> Ian,
>
> That sounds like a great idea. This is such a strange condition, who can my
> husband talk to about it? We personally do not know anyone else who
> struggles with EMS.
>
> I do not have the opportunity to read all the groups posts, I only open the
> ones whos subject line catches my eye. The irony is that I learn more about
> EMS on line but because I have EMS the amount of time I can spend on line is
> limited. But I do save all the posts to a file in hopes that one day if one
> of my family members is willing they can go through the saved post and
> garner some helpful information for me. That might be a helpful hint for a
> support person.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Jennie
>
> I wonder sometimes if I should set up a group called "Husbands (or
>
> Spouses/Partners) Anonymous" to help the partners of ES people and, hence,
>
> ES'sers themselves! Having been through it myself I can see how tough it is
>
> for someone when their partner starts experiencing symptoms which seem to
>
> defy all normal experience and "common sense". It would be good to help
>
> relationships by reassuring people that neither they nor their partner is
>
> suffering delusions, nor is it psychosomatic, and that there are other
>
> people around who have gone through this too.
>
> I feel I was fortunate in that I had already gone through the "disbelief
>
> phase" when Sue developed MCS and started reacting to perfumes, household
>
> chemicals, weedkiller and traffic fumes. We then agreed together to try a
>
> new doctor and we were both there when he used a machine which caused her
> to
>
> start developing ES symptoms within an hour. I'd been a bit surprised at
> the
>
> time that 3 Ghz microwave radiation was being used unshielded, and I knew
>
> that neither Sue or I had ever heard of ES, so there was no danger that we
>
> were "imagining she'd got something we'd seen on the internet". Even with
>
> this knowledge, I still found it hard to cope over the following months as
>
> Sue gradually became sensitive to mobile phones, computers, TV's, household
>
> electricity and even the earpieces of normal phones, and her associated
> fear
>
> as the environment around her became "unsafe". We had a complete range of
>
> reactions from our friends, who varied from the highly supportive to the
>
> totally incredulous, and sadly we have lost some long-standing friendships
>
> as a result. On the other hand some casual friendships became deeper - for
>
> example with my boss whose daughter had dust mite allergy and other mild
> MCS
>
> symptoms.
>
> Would be interested in others' views on this! Mostly it is sceptical
>
> husbands who seem to be mentioned - not sure if wives are usually more
> ready
>
> to believe, or that more women than men get ES (or both factors together).
>
> _____
>
> From: eSens@yahoogroups. com [mailto:eSens@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
>
> Jennie Wassenaar
>
> Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07
>
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
>
> That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never
>
> thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am
> making
>
> will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at
>
> night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to
> help
>
> me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.
>
> Have a great day,
>
> Jennie
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. <mailto:loni326% <loni326%25> 40yahoo.com> com>
>
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. <mailto:eSens% <eSens%25> 40yahoogroups. com> com
>
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
>
> Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go
>
> to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni
>
> --- On Thu, 9/10/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:
>
> From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
>
> Subject: [eSens] Magnetic Therapy
>
> To: "EMS" <eSens@yahoogroups. com>
>
> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM
>
> Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?
>
> I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good
>
> night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's
> been
>
> 4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved
> by
>
> taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some
> feed
>
> back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jennie
>
> PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers
>
> with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get
>
> a good nights sleep.
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