Li-Fi better than wi-fi ?

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>Barrie Trower said photon transmission is safer than microwave rf; not sure how true is it.
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>this article talks of micro led Li-Fi:
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>http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/147339-micro-led-lifi-where-every-light-source-in-the-world-is-also-tv-and-provides-gigabit-internet-access
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> On Wed, May 29, 2013 9:43 AM PDT muii20 wrote:
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> >Barrie Trower said photon transmission is safer than microwave rf; not
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> >this article talks of micro led Li-Fi:
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>Barrie Trower said photon transmission is safer than microwave rf; not sure how
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>this article talks of micro led Li-Fi:
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>http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/147339-micro-led-lifi-where-every-light-source-in-the-world-is-also-tv-and-provides-gigabit-internet-access
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> On May 30, John Puccetti <johnpuccetti@...> wrote:
> > What meter would you use? My HF 35 C 800 MHZ  to 2500 shows nothing? I don't
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> Well... there are people on this list who have (apparently) invested thousands
> and thousands of dollars on EMF meters (maybe even more than ten thousand?),
> and yet even they say that they cannot measure everything that they want to
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> I, on the other hand, have taken the approach that *I* am the meter -- if
> it's bothering me, then I should do something about it.  If it's not, then I
> don't.  That is the most relevant "meter" for me personally, but does leave
> me "in the dark" about how things measure on various meters.
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> And personally, I have found electronics that are totally unbearable to me
> when turned on, and yet none of the meters I own (admittedly few) indicate
> anything at all coming from them.  So to me, a "zero" reading is meaningless.
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> > understand what you are looking for could you tell me what meter you would
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> Well... there are people on this list who have (apparently) invested thousands
> and thousands of dollars on EMF meters (maybe even more than ten thousand?),
> and yet even they say that they cannot measure everything that they want to
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> I, on the other hand, have taken the approach that *I* am the meter -- if
> it's bothering me, then I should do something about it. If it's not, then I
> don't. That is the most relevant "meter" for me personally, but does leave
> me "in the dark" about how things measure on various meters.
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> And personally, I have found electronics that are totally unbearable to me
> when turned on, and yet none of the meters I own (admittedly few) indicate
> anything at all coming from them. So to me, a "zero" reading is meaningless.
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> Marc
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> I am a general contractor electrician specializing in emf and rf detection and
> mitigation. LED lights, good ones have no dirty electricity and very low rf but
> some people have a problem with less than 100 hz. www.ledwholesalers.com has
> quality LEDs.
> You should never get a shock from a ground rod. Have that looked at. Water pipes
> can carry stray voltage. But your EMF tester should show you Trifield is not bad
> I like digital meters better.That is a funny term (stray voltage) because the
> electric utilities ground a live wire the white neutral to ground. All states
> except CA have no neutral on high tension lines which means they use the earth
> to carry voltage between towers nine grounding rods per mile.
> Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti
> 805-642-0546
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> mitigation. LED lights, good ones have no dirty electricity and very low rf but
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> some people have a problem with less than 100 hz. www.ledwholesalers.com has
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> You should never get a shock from a ground rod. Have that looked at. Water
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> can carry stray voltage. But your EMF tester should show you Trifield is not
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> I like digital meters better.That is a funny term (stray voltage) because the
> electric utilities ground a live wire the white neutral to ground. All states
> except CA have no neutral on high tension lines which means they use the earth

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> My property has underground water, probably odd somehing and stray voltage, I believe. Got shocked grounding one day! Came up through the grounding rod. My body measured that!!
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> Yes, that is a huge problem and it goes mainly unrecognized....that is not really stray voltage, it is live current.
> Check out this website: www.streetzaps.com
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> The utility co's use the "earth" to ground the power poles.
> Electricity will always follow the path of least resistance.
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> I have sent you an attachment on how to use a grounding rod on your bed, without using the "earth" as so called "ground".
> this is a technology, easy to DO, not expensive, works very well, and was given to me by my Irish Healer Colleague, Ciaran.
> (thank you soo much Ciaran!)
> I have used this system for 3 years for both my daughter and myself.
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> You have underground water, this is underground subterranean caverns. And these earth stress lines, put out HUGELY
> powerful geopathic stress- especially when sleeping over these lines. Which is just about everyone on the planet!
> And the practice known as Fracking, has been documented to cause more earthquakes...not really a surpreise when
> you think about how frackign is done.
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> Geopathic Stress - Land & Spirit www.landandspirit.net/html/body_geopathic_stress.html�I would suggest you place MIRRORS FACING DOWN, under your bed.
> This will reflect the geopathic stress coming up from the subterranean water....
> AWAY from you during sleep.
> I bought those door mirrors at Target, for 6 bucks a piece, depending on how big your bed is..
> I laid 3 down MIRROR FACING DOWN...and layered them slightly, and used duct tape to hold them
> in place. Then I taped bubble wrap at the floor, at the edge of the bed, so I wouldn't step on the edge of the mirror.
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> Geopathic stress is the original source of ES...because it is the ORIGINAL source of radiation
> we were heavily exposed to.
> This is my working theory, the geopathic stress was here way before the cell phones were.
> This info gets ignored often, especially on this esens site.
> All I can tell you, try the mirrors and this willl be your proof!
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> For some, it only takes a night to know this makes a big difference.....
> for others, it takes a few nights to see the results.
> And too, geopathic stress is made MUCH worse by earthquakes.
> The more earthquakes, the more geopathic stress.
> SEE: http://earthquake-report.com
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> Radiation IS strong magnetic fields.
> And the equipment to measure geopathic stress is highly specialized, and not  easily available .....
> unless you happpen to be near Dr. Klinghardts's Seattle office, he does have this equipt
> that he rents out to his patients. (If you haven't heard of Dr. Klinghardt, google him,
> he is a well known alternative doctor, who has two offices, one here in the states, and the other
> in Europe. He says 80% of chronic diseases/conditions are caused from emfs.
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> Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt - Smart Meters & EMR: The Health
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> > http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/dr-dietrich-klinghardt-smart-meters-emr-the-health-crisis-of-our-time/
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> That equip to measure geopathic stress probably came from Europe (probably Vienna, Austria)...where geopathic stress is much better recognized.
> SEe also book: Earth Radiation by Kathe Bachler (amazon)
> There is PLENTY of documentation to prove how harmful geopathic stress IS.
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> ONe day my dog peed on a tree, got zapped so strong, this live current picked up my 90 lb dog and tossed her
> at the back of my ankles...just about knocked me down! Up above the tree branches, I saw a telephone line!
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> Blessings,
> Lizzie
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> From: judyl_nev@...
> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 00:33:23 +0000
> Subject: [eSens] Re: Li-Fi better than wi-fi ?
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>       I have just ordered my third meter. Total cost for 3 about $700.
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> I have spent THOUSANDS trying to find out what was the matter with me, trying to fix me and buying pendants and gadgets trying to shield me. Money is always an issue.
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> The meters are a huge help because now I'm able to measure and verify what I feel. And I CAN SHOW others what the heck I'm talking about. And I can measure others' homes or offices. I recently had an electrician over to check the electrical on the house. I could show him readings. He suffers seizures, and I'm hoping that what I taught him (!) will be helpful to HIM.
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> But, like Marc says, there are things that bother me still, and I don't know what it is! It is maddening. My situation is complicated by other health issues. But now I've become much better at ferreting out which field is the problem.. Then you can learn how to remediate it.
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> I have a Trifield meter :.. very helpful. I discovered that magnetic fields appear to be my greatest problem. I have overhead power lines, and the magnetic field is terrible. I'm visiting my sister's house right now, and powerlines are buried. Magnetic field reading is near zero.
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> I have a Stetzerizer... very helpful! I had readings in some rooms of 1500 to 1900!! Caused by (believe it or not) poor quality LED lightbulbs I bought, thinking I was doing the right thing... once they were removed, and I put back incandescent bulbs, the Dirty Electricity readings went to reasonable. Still need to do a little more on that.
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> I have an acoustimeter on order. That should prove to be fun!
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> I have a so-called Analog meter replacement for a smart meter. It is terrible. It makes me feel awful. The only thing measured so far is with a voltmeter. It puts through very irregular voltage.
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> --- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@> wrote:
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> > On May 30, John Puccetti <johnpuccetti@> wrote:
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> > > What meter would you use? My HF 35 C 800 MHZ  to 2500 shows nothing? I don't
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> > > understand what you are looking for could you tell me what meter you would use?
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> > Well... there are people on this list who have (apparently) invested thousands
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> > and thousands of dollars on EMF meters (maybe even more than ten thousand?),
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> > and yet even they say that they cannot measure everything that they want to
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> > I, on the other hand, have taken the approach that *I* am the meter -- if
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> > it's bothering me, then I should do something about it.  If it's not, then I
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> > don't.  That is the most relevant "meter" for me personally, but does leave
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> > me "in the dark" about how things measure on various meters.
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> > And personally, I have found electronics that are totally unbearable to me
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> > when turned on, and yet none of the meters I own (admittedly few) indicate
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> LED's are not perfect but in my mind they are the best option at the moment. I
> have solar panels and they create a lot of dirty electricity. But I still feel
> the goal is to be as clean as possible and as independent as possible from the
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> 1. I minimize my usage unplug all those ac to dc transformers that you can. Do
> not use dimmer switches.
> 2. Then I try to clean up the dirty electricity. with GS filters. You can twist
> the hot and neutral wires from panels or in your wiring to eliminate EMF. But
> you must have wiring in conduit to do that. Hard to do with existing wiring.
> 3. With 12 GS filters I have our house down to 40 gs. That is what is
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> Sent from a Hard-Wired Computer and a low RF environment. John Puccetti
> 805-642-0546
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> From: Marc Martin <marc@...>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Sat, June 1, 2013 9:22:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Li-Fi better than wi-fi ?
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> On May 31, John Puccetti <johnpuccetti@...> wrote:
> > I am a general contractor electrician specializing in emf and rf detection and
>
> > mitigation. LED lights, good ones have no dirty electricity and very low rf but
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> > some people have a problem with less than 100 hz. www.ledwholesalers.com has
> > quality LEDs.
>
> We've had people here complain about LED lights, due the transformers from
> line voltage down to the LED voltage (12v?). Seems like the safest lighting
> is still incandescent, although it sounds like there is line voltage halogen
> lighting as well.
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