Hi all,
I find myself in a situation where I may have to make a quick decision on an LCD TV to purchase. My main purpose for needing to buy an LCD TV at this time is to hook up to a desktop computer unit. This is for a space-limitedbedroom - so I need my LCD t.v. to "double" as a computer monitor. I haven't owned an LCD TV before, so I have no real experience and don't know what to expect. Are LCD TVs as troublesome as computers for electrosensitives? Or do you guys find LCD TVs tolerable? LCD TVs are widely "advertised" as emitting (much) less radiation than CRT TVs - even the emf-conscious sources push this fact (the article in Prevention magazine spoke favorably of LCD TVs and even virtually recommended them). I was wondering if electrosensitives' real-life experiences with LCDs matched-up with this fact. Are you guys able to use LCD TVs with little or no problems? Any recommendations as far as a brand, refresh-rate, or other "parameters" (720p, 1080i,etc.)? Oh, and since I'm sensitive to brightness - I am hoping to avoid a LCD witha really bright screen. The "dimmer" the screen, the better - at least toa point. Btw, I've decided that a 22-inch LCD would be the best fit for my bedroom. I would love to be able to "get away" with a 19-inch, but I believe that 19" screens are a little too small to be comfortably viewed from, say, 10 feet away (which is the approx. distance from where I lay in bed to the TV area). Any testimonies, help, etc. appreciated! ~Svetaswan P.S. - I really don't "need" an HDTV, but since basically all LCD TVs have that capacity, I guess I'm forced to buy one. |
I can't help you with the TV part but I am also sensitive to light and findmost LCD Monitors too bright. Still looking for one that doesn't bother myeyes.
As for EMF, on the LCD Monitor it is very good, my meter has to practicallybe touching it for it to get a high reading, I assume the same will be forLCD TV's. --- On Sun, 3/28/10, svetaswan <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: svetaswan <[hidden email]> > Subject: [eSens] LCD TVs - tolerable? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 10:38 AM > Hi all, > > I find myself in a situation where I may have to make a > quick decision on an LCD TV to purchase. My main purpose for > needing to buy an LCD TV at this time is to hook up to a > desktop computer unit. This is for a space-limited > bedroom - so I need my LCD t.v. to "double" as a computer > monitor. > > I haven't owned an LCD TV before, so I have no real > experience and don't know what to expect. Are LCD TVs > as troublesome as computers for electrosensitives? Or > do you guys find LCD TVs tolerable? > > LCD TVs are widely "advertised" as emitting (much) less > radiation than CRT TVs - even the emf-conscious sources push > this fact (the article in Prevention magazine spoke > favorably of LCD TVs and even virtually recommended > them). I was wondering if electrosensitives' real-life > experiences with LCDs matched-up with this fact. > > Are you guys able to use LCD TVs with little or no > problems? Any recommendations as far as a brand, > refresh-rate, or other "parameters" (720p, 1080i, > etc.)? > > Oh, and since I'm sensitive to brightness - I am hoping to > avoid a LCD with a really bright screen. The "dimmer" > the screen, the better - at least to a point. > > Btw, I've decided that a 22-inch LCD would be the best fit > for my bedroom. I would love to be able to "get away" > with a 19-inch, but I believe that 19" screens are a little > too small to be comfortably viewed from, say, 10 feet away > (which is the approx. distance from where I lay in bed to > the TV area). > > Any testimonies, help, etc. appreciated! > > ~Svetaswan > > P.S. - I really don't "need" an HDTV, but since basically > all LCD TVs have that capacity, I guess I'm forced to buy > one. > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [hidden email] > > > |
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I have a 60 inch LCD & I feel it but it's not bad. I sit pretty far away. Ithink that is the key. Don't sit too close to it. Loni
--- On Sun, 3/28/10, svetaswan <[hidden email]> wrote: From: svetaswan <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] LCD TVs - tolerable? To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 10:38 AM Hi all, I find myself in a situation where I may have to make a quick decision on an LCD TV to purchase. My main purpose for needing to buy an LCD TV at this time is to hook up to a desktop computer unit. This is for a space-limited bedroom - so I need my LCD t.v. to "double" as a computer monitor. I haven't owned an LCD TV before, so I have no real experience and don't know what to expect. Are LCD TVs as troublesome as computers for electrosensitives? Or do you guys find LCD TVs tolerable? LCD TVs are widely "advertised" as emitting (much) less radiation than CRT TVs - even the emf-conscious sources push this fact (the article in Prevention magazine spoke favorably of LCD TVs and even virtually recommended them). I was wondering if electrosensitives' real-life experiences with LCDs matched-up with this fact. Are you guys able to use LCD TVs with little or no problems? Any recommendations as far as a brand, refresh-rate, or other "parameters" (720p, 1080i, etc.)? Oh, and since I'm sensitive to brightness - I am hoping to avoid a LCD witha really bright screen. The "dimmer" the screen, the better - at least to a point. Btw, I've decided that a 22-inch LCD would be the best fit for my bedroom. I would love to be able to "get away" with a 19-inch, but I believe that 19" screens are a little too small to be comfortably viewed from, say, 10 feet away (which is the approx. distance from where I lay in bed to the TV area). Any testimonies, help, etc. appreciated! ~Svetaswan P.S. - I really don't "need" an HDTV, but since basically all LCD TVs have that capacity, I guess I'm forced to buy one. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Are LCD TVs as troublesome as computers for electrosensitives?
LCD TVs are usually much further away from people than computers are, so they can be less of an issue. I know that I had some reactions to my 37" 1080p LCD HDTV (a Panasonic) when I first used it, but the application of a few EMF protection devices and it was fine -- from 10 feet away! I'd avoid anything that has faster refresh rates -- 120hz, etc. (60hz is probably more tolerable than 120hz, I'd think, but I have no personal experience). I'd avoid plasma at all costs. Make sure than the backlight is dimmable, as dimmed TVs are more tolerable (for me, at least). Some LCDs are now backlight by LED lights instead of florescent. I don't know how much difference that might make in reactions. Marc |
Yes my computer is much worse for me than my LCD tv because I am much closer to it. Loni
--- On Sun, 3/28/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] LCD TVs - tolerable? To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 12:08 PM > Are LCD TVs as troublesome as computers for electrosensitives? LCD TVs are usually much further away from people than computers are, so they can be less of an issue. I know that I had some reactions to my 37" 1080p LCD HDTV (a Panasonic) when I first used it, but the application of a few EMF protection devices and it was fine -- from 10 feet away! I'd avoid anything that has faster refresh rates -- 120hz, etc. (60hz is probably more tolerable than 120hz, I'd think, but I have no personal experience). I'd avoid plasma at all costs. Make sure than the backlight is dimmable, as dimmed TVs are more tolerable (for me, at least). Some LCDs are now backlight by LED lights instead of florescent. I don't know how much difference that might make in reactions. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Are LCD TVs as troublesome as computers for electrosensitives? > > LCD TVs are usually much further away from people than computers > are, so they can be less of an issue. I know that I had some > reactions to my 37" 1080p LCD HDTV (a Panasonic) when I first > used it, but the application of a few EMF protection devices > and it was fine -- from 10 feet away! > > I'd avoid anything that has faster refresh rates -- 120hz, etc. > (60hz is probably more tolerable than 120hz, I'd think, but > I have no personal experience). > > I'd avoid plasma at all costs. > > Make sure than the backlight is dimmable, as dimmed TVs are > more tolerable (for me, at least). > > Some LCDs are now backlight by LED lights instead of florescent. > I don't know how much difference that might make in reactions. > > Marc > Interesting - so LCDs with faster refresh rates are more dangerous emf-wise? The reason this is "interesting" to me is because, IIRC - I've read info(was it on the Conrad Biologic website?) indicating that faster refresh rates are supposed to be healthier for the eyes and brains of those who are sensitive to screen refresh rates (which I may be - subconsiously, at least). So I guess it may be a trade-off - what you may gain in visual comfort, you may "lose" in electromagnetic comfort. 120Hz LCDS are much more expensive anyway (and they may not even make any "small" LCDs with 120Hz refresh rates) - it may not be worth paying the extra $$$ for a visual relief that I may or may not feel. Thanks to everyone who replied in this thread - appreciate it. ~Svetaswan |
What EMF devices made the LCD more tolerable? Loni
--- On Tue, 4/6/10, svetaswan <[hidden email]> wrote: From: svetaswan <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: LCD TVs - tolerable? To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 9:30 PM --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > Are LCD TVs as troublesome as computers for electrosensitives? > > LCD TVs are usually much further away from people than computers > are, so they can be less of an issue. I know that I had some > reactions to my 37" 1080p LCD HDTV (a Panasonic) when I first > used it, but the application of a few EMF protection devices > and it was fine -- from 10 feet away! > > I'd avoid anything that has faster refresh rates -- 120hz, etc. > (60hz is probably more tolerable than 120hz, I'd think, but > I have no personal experience). > > I'd avoid plasma at all costs. > > Make sure than the backlight is dimmable, as dimmed TVs are > more tolerable (for me, at least). > > Some LCDs are now backlight by LED lights instead of florescent. > I don't know how much difference that might make in reactions. > > Marc > Interesting - so LCDs with faster refresh rates are more dangerous emf-wise? The reason this is "interesting" to me is because, IIRC - I've read info (was it on the Conrad Biologic website?) indicating that faster refresh rates are supposed to be healthier for the eyes and brains of those who are sensitive to screen refresh rates (which I may be - subconsiously, at least).So I guess it may be a trade-off - what you may gain in visual comfort, you may "lose" in electromagnetic comfort. 120Hz LCDS are much more expensive anyway (and they may not even make any "small" LCDs with 120Hz refresh rates) - it may not be worth paying the extra $$$ for a visual relief that I may or may not feel. Thanks to everyone who replied in this thread - appreciate it. ~Svetaswan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> What EMF devices made the LCD more tolerable? Loni
Putting my Quantum Pro next to the set, and/or putting a small tachyon silica disc on the TV's power cord. (the latter option being significantly cheaper!) Marc |
If you can feel the difference with the silica disc, you
could try some experiments... does it matter which end of the cord it's on? What if you wrap that section of the cord with foil... does it still work? What if you wrap the disc in foil? Also, does it change the sound or reading on the Entech? Does it work to put the disc on a different cord (an extension cord say) that is plugged into the same outlet (like the filter tests you did). Ideally try to figure out a way to test it blind, like if you had two identical cords, one plugged into the outlet, one to nothing, mix them up, put the disc on one, see if you can it was the plugged in cord without looking. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > What EMF devices made the LCD more tolerable? Loni > > Putting my Quantum Pro next to the set, and/or putting > a small tachyon silica disc on the TV's power cord. > (the latter option being significantly cheaper!) > > Marc > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> If you can feel the difference with the silica disc, you
> could try some experiments... does it matter which end > of the cord it's on? Well, it's too late for me to run these experiments -- I don't think I'm sensitive to my HDTV at all anymore. And I'm pretty sure that the disc has no effect on any meter readings (same applies with the Quantum Home, etc., which I personally do notice, but the meters don't register it -- although apparently Vinny Pinto was able to measure it doing something) Marc |
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from your favorable posts Marc - "emf protection devices" are redeemed in my eyes. :) It's just that recently, I read a few things that made me feel "stupid" and "suckered in" for buying these devices and for thinking that they were of any real benefit. So I backed off of them. But it's been goodto read that you, among others - believe in these devices enough that you've incorporated them into your lives. So I might start experimenting with these devices again. I've only tried emf-protection devices from a couple of sources - I became a fan of the stuff at www.emfblues.com, for ex.. There might be better stuff out there thatI have yet to discover for myself - but for some reason I have a certain "comfort level" with those products. (The relatively-low cost of the products doesn't hurt.) I also bought some orgonite - I actually found someone who made several orgonite pieces for me that he claimed were significantly stronger than the typical piece of orgonite...but I've had very iffy results with the pieces. They recommend placing some orgonite in your room, under your bed, etc. - to enhance sleep and for general wellbeing - but I found that, after a shortwhile, that the orgonite placed in my bedroom seemed to make me feel worse- more stressed and "agitated". Detox reaction, perhaps? Could be...but right now I'm not willing to persist to find out. Maybe those orgonite pieces were made *too* strong for me. But anyway - do you think these protection devices actually make emf-radiating products safer to be around? Are we still being harmed by these products - but, thanks to the emf-protecting devices, we just don't feel it as much? And Loni - thanks for asking Marc the exact follow-up question that I wanted to ask. Saved me some energy. :) ~Svetaswan --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > What EMF devices made the LCD more tolerable? Loni > > Putting my Quantum Pro next to the set, and/or putting > a small tachyon silica disc on the TV's power cord. > (the latter option being significantly cheaper!) > > Marc > |
Hi again, Svetaswan,
Re the orgonite: Orgonite might be similar to the gemstone necklaces I have been using--they need "cleared" periodically or they will make you feel worse. You can probably google "clearing orgonite" and it might bring up whether this is so and how to do it. Actually I just tried this. It brought up this site (and others) and I skimmed over it rather quickly, so I can't say I digested it all. However, I did see a blurb there about adding quartz crystal to the orgone. And one thing I do know about quartz crystal is it needs frequent cleaning and clearing. I saw no advise on how to achieve this with orgone, however. http://www.envirohealthtech.com/orgonite.htm My 2 pennies, Diane --- On Thu, 4/15/10, svetaswan <[hidden email]> wrote: From: svetaswan <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: LCD TVs - emf protection devices To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 10:03 PM from your favorable posts Marc - "emf protection devices" are redeemed in my eyes. :) It's just that recently, I read a few things that made me feel "stupid" and "suckered in" for buying these devices and for thinking that they were of any real benefit. So I backed off of them. But it's been good toread that you, among others - believe in these devices enough that you've incorporated them into your lives. So I might start experimenting with these devices again. I've only tried emf-protection devices from a couple of sources - I became a fan of the stuffat www.emfblues. com, for ex.. There might be better stuff out there that I have yet to discover for myself - but for some reason I have a certain "comfort level" with those products. (The relatively-low cost of the productsdoesn't hurt.) I also bought some orgonite - I actually found someone who made several orgonite pieces for me that he claimed were significantly stronger than the typical piece of orgonite...but I've had very iffy results with the pieces. They recommend placing some orgonite in your room, under your bed, etc. - toenhance sleep and for general wellbeing - but I found that, after a short while, that the orgonite placed in my bedroom seemed to make me feel worse - more stressed and "agitated". Detox reaction, perhaps? Could be...but right now I'm not willing to persist to find out. Maybe those orgonite pieces were made *too* strong for me. But anyway - do you think these protection devices actually make emf-radiating products safer to be around? Are we still being harmed by these products - but, thanks to the emf-protecting devices, we just don't feel it as much? And Loni - thanks for asking Marc the exact follow-up question that I wanted to ask. Saved me some energy. :) ~Svetaswan --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > What EMF devices made the LCD more tolerable? Loni > > Putting my Quantum Pro next to the set, and/or putting > a small tachyon silica disc on the TV's power cord. > (the latter option being significantly cheaper!) > > Marc > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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>And Loni - thanks for asking Marc the exact follow-up question that I wanted to ask. >Saved me some energy. :)
Svetaswan; Happy it helped you too. Great thing about this forum. Just FYI; I called to try the Quantum pro & got talked in to the Comfort Clock. Hasn't helped at all. I'm going to try stetzer filters as soon as I return this clock. Loni --- On Thu, 4/15/10, svetaswan <[hidden email]> wrote: From: svetaswan <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: LCD TVs - emf protection devices To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 7:03 PM from your favorable posts Marc - "emf protection devices" are redeemed in my eyes. :) It's just that recently, I read a few things that made me feel "stupid" and "suckered in" for buying these devices and for thinking that they were of any real benefit. So I backed off of them. But it's been good toread that you, among others - believe in these devices enough that you've incorporated them into your lives. So I might start experimenting with these devices again. I've only tried emf-protection devices from a couple of sources - I became a fan of the stuffat www.emfblues. com, for ex.. There might be better stuff out there that I have yet to discover for myself - but for some reason I have a certain "comfort level" with those products. (The relatively-low cost of the productsdoesn't hurt.) I also bought some orgonite - I actually found someone who made several orgonite pieces for me that he claimed were significantly stronger than the typical piece of orgonite...but I've had very iffy results with the pieces. They recommend placing some orgonite in your room, under your bed, etc. - toenhance sleep and for general wellbeing - but I found that, after a short while, that the orgonite placed in my bedroom seemed to make me feel worse - more stressed and "agitated". Detox reaction, perhaps? Could be...but right now I'm not willing to persist to find out. Maybe those orgonite pieces were made *too* strong for me. But anyway - do you think these protection devices actually make emf-radiating products safer to be around? Are we still being harmed by these products - but, thanks to the emf-protecting devices, we just don't feel it as much? ~Svetaswan --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > > What EMF devices made the LCD more tolerable? Loni > > Putting my Quantum Pro next to the set, and/or putting > a small tachyon silica disc on the TV's power cord. > (the latter option being significantly cheaper!) > > Marc > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Loni,
Can you let us know how it goes with the stetzer filters? Thanks, Steve --- On Fri, 4/16/10, Loni <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Loni <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: LCD TVs - emf protection devices > To: [hidden email] > Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:11 AM > >And Loni - thanks for asking Marc > the exact follow-up question that I wanted to ask. >Saved > me some energy. :) > > Svetaswan; > > Happy it helped you too. Great thing about this forum. > > Just FYI; I called to try the Quantum pro & got talked > in to the Comfort Clock. Hasn't helped at all. > > I'm going to try stetzer filters as soon as I return this > clock. Loni > > > --- On Thu, 4/15/10, svetaswan <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > From: svetaswan <[hidden email]> > Subject: [eSens] Re: LCD TVs - emf protection devices > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 7:03 PM > > > > > > > > > From your favorable posts Marc - "emf protection devices" > are redeemed in my eyes. :) It's just that recently, I read > a few things that made me feel "stupid" and "suckered in" > for buying these devices and for thinking that they were of > any real benefit. So I backed off of them. But it's been > good to read that you, among others - believe in these > devices enough that you've incorporated them into your > lives. > > So I might start experimenting with these devices again. > I've only tried emf-protection devices from a couple of > sources - I became a fan of the stuff at www.emfblues. com, > for ex.. There might be better stuff out there that I have > yet to discover for myself - but for some reason I have a > certain "comfort level" with those products. (The > relatively-low cost of the products doesn't hurt.) > > I also bought some orgonite - I actually found someone who > made several orgonite pieces for me that he claimed were > significantly stronger than the typical piece of > orgonite...but I've had very iffy results with the pieces. > They recommend placing some orgonite in your room, under > your bed, etc. - to enhance sleep and for general wellbeing > - but I found that, after a short while, that the orgonite > placed in my bedroom seemed to make me feel worse - more > stressed and "agitated". Detox reaction, perhaps? Could > be...but right now I'm not willing to persist to find out. > Maybe those orgonite pieces were made *too* strong for me. > > But anyway - do you think these protection devices actually > make emf-radiating products safer to be around? Are we still > being harmed by these products - but, thanks to the > emf-protecting devices, we just don't feel it as much? > > ~Svetaswan > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" > <marc@...> wrote: > > > > > What EMF devices made the LCD more tolerable? > Loni > > > > Putting my Quantum Pro next to the set, and/or > putting > > a small tachyon silica disc on the TV's power cord. > > (the latter option being significantly cheaper!) > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [hidden email] > > > |
Sure Steve; I definitely will! Loni
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Steve G <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Steve G <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: LCD TVs - emf protection devices To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:59 AM Loni, Can you let us know how it goes with the stetzer filters? Thanks, Steve --- On Fri, 4/16/10, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote: > From: Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: LCD TVs - emf protection devices > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 10:11 AM > >And Loni - thanks for asking Marc > the exact follow-up question that I wanted to ask. >Saved > me some energy. :) > > Svetaswan; > > Happy it helped you too. Great thing about this forum. > > Just FYI; I called to try the Quantum pro & got talked > in to the Comfort Clock. Hasn't helped at all. > > I'm going to try stetzer filters as soon as I return this > clock. Loni > > > --- On Thu, 4/15/10, svetaswan <svetaswan@yahoo. com> > wrote: > > > From: svetaswan <svetaswan@yahoo. com> > Subject: [eSens] Re: LCD TVs - emf protection devices > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 7:03 PM > > > > > > > > > From your favorable posts Marc - "emf protection devices" > are redeemed in my eyes. :) It's just that recently, I read > a few things that made me feel "stupid" and "suckered in" > for buying these devices and for thinking that they were of > any real benefit. So I backed off of them. But it's been > good to read that you, among others - believe in these > devices enough that you've incorporated them into your > lives. > > So I might start experimenting with these devices again. > I've only tried emf-protection devices from a couple of > sources - I became a fan of the stuff at www.emfblues. com, > for ex.. There might be better stuff out there that I have > yet to discover for myself - but for some reason I have a > certain "comfort level" with those products. (The > relatively-low cost of the products doesn't hurt.) > > I also bought some orgonite - I actually found someone who > made several orgonite pieces for me that he claimed were > significantly stronger than the typical piece of > orgonite...but I've had very iffy results with the pieces. > They recommend placing some orgonite in your room, under > your bed, etc. - to enhance sleep and for general wellbeing > - but I found that, after a short while, that the orgonite > placed in my bedroom seemed to make me feel worse - more > stressed and "agitated". Detox reaction, perhaps? Could > be...but right now I'm not willing to persist to find out. > Maybe those orgonite pieces were made *too* strong for me. > > But anyway - do you think these protection devices actually > make emf-radiating products safer to be around? Are we still > being harmed by these products - but, thanks to the > emf-protecting devices, we just don't feel it as much? > > ~Svetaswan > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, "Marc Martin" > <marc@...> wrote: > > > > > What EMF devices made the LCD more tolerable? > Loni > > > > Putting my Quantum Pro next to the set, and/or > putting > > a small tachyon silica disc on the TV's power cord. > > (the latter option being significantly cheaper!) > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > eSens-fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Just FYI; I called to try the Quantum pro & got talked in to the Comfort
> Clock. Hasn't helped at all. Yes, but you called Ken Lesser at Advanced Living, didn't you? I don't think Ken even sells Quantum Products anymore, does he? I think he's just interested in selling those clocks. If you called up Quantum Products, I'm sure they would have been happy to sell you a Quantum Pro. :-) Marc |
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> > Just FYI; I called to try the Quantum pro & got talked in to the Comfort
> > Clock. Hasn't helped at all. Also Loni, you had previously mentioned that the Q-Link pendant was helpful to you. Doesn't that same company sell stronger products than the pendant? I'm curious why you didn't pursue that, if the weakest item they offer was helping you... Marc |
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> I also bought some orgonite - I found
> that, after a short while, that the orgonite placed in my bedroom seemed > to make me feel worse - more stressed and "agitated". Detox reaction, > perhaps? I also had an "agitated" reaction to the several pieces of orgonite I've tried from various sources. I eventually decided that this was NOT a detox reaction, but rather that organite puts out some nasty energy, and "energy-sensitive" people might want to stay away from it. And yes, I know that the websites say just the opposite... :-) > But anyway - do you think these protection devices actually make > emf-radiating products safer to be around? Are we still being harmed by > these products - but, thanks to the emf-protecting devices, we just don't > feel it as much? I think that we are in such a state of poor health, that if we try an EMF protection device that makes us obviously healthier, then you are obviously not being damaged as much by the EMF around you. And it doesn't really matter what the meter says, or what the skeptics say. The "placebo effect" is only supposed to help you for a limited amount of time (months at most), and I've had good experiences with some of these devices for almost 10 years. Marc |
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Well it is an option but I like to try things from referrals. You & Diane like the Quantum Pro & others have talked about the Stetzer Filters in a positive way. I originally bought the QLink because my friend said it helped her. The QLink has lost some of it's Umph but I still wear it. That's the skinny! Loni
--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: LCD TVs - emf protection devices To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 11:49 AM > > Just FYI; I called to try the Quantum pro & got talked in to the Comfort > > Clock. Hasn't helped at all. Also Loni, you had previously mentioned that the Q-Link pendant was helpful to you. Doesn't that same company sell stronger products than the pendant? I'm curious why you didn't pursue that, if the weakest item they offer was helping you... Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I thought I was calling Quantum but maybe not. I googled & that's where I ended up.
Loni --- On Fri, 4/16/10, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: LCD TVs - emf protection devices To: [hidden email] Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 11:47 AM > Just FYI; I called to try the Quantum pro & got talked in to the Comfort > Clock. Hasn't helped at all. Yes, but you called Ken Lesser at Advanced Living, didn't you? I don't think Ken even sells Quantum Products anymore, does he? I think he's just interested in selling those clocks. If you called up Quantum Products, I'm sure they would have been happy to sell you a Quantum Pro. :-) Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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