I KNOW THAT WIFI CAN BE JAMMED OR WOBBLED BY DECT SIGNALS IS THERE A
DEVICE THAT CAN INTERFERE WITH DECT ? HOW ABOUT AN AM CB RADIO. !!! |
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> I KNOW THAT WIFI CAN BE JAMMED OR WOBBLED BY DECT SIGNALS IS THERE A
> DEVICE THAT CAN INTERFERE WITH DECT ? HOW ABOUT AN AM CB RADIO. !!! Wouldn't a person with ES have trouble tolerating the jamming device? It seems like you'd want fewer signals, not more... Marc |
It is like chasing the devil with Satan.
Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Martin" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 21:16 Subject: Re: [eSens] JAMMING OF DECT SIGNALS >> I KNOW THAT WIFI CAN BE JAMMED OR WOBBLED BY DECT SIGNALS IS THERE A >> DEVICE THAT CAN INTERFERE WITH DECT ? HOW ABOUT AN AM CB RADIO. !!! > > Wouldn't a person with ES have trouble tolerating the jamming device? > > It seems like you'd want fewer signals, not more... > > Marc > |
That was my first thought ! Jamming includes still more em emissions
I imagine. Now, I wouldn't say no to a dedicated machine use for targeting the emf, ahahah. In fact that would be the best thing we could come up with. Smart sabotage of phone mast, dect phone, wifi. Yesterday, I measured a peak at 50 uW for the dect signal. No wonder I need a lot of coffee in the morning to wake up. But today I feel a little bit better, because I put an aluminium paper shield against the dect signal(I measured that it didn't make much worse the phone mast signal coming from the opposite direction). But I doubt I'm gonna have a lasting break. jean. --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > It is like chasing the devil with Satan. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Martin" <marc@...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 21:16 > Subject: Re: [eSens] JAMMING OF DECT SIGNALS > > > >> I KNOW THAT WIFI CAN BE JAMMED OR WOBBLED BY DECT SIGNALS IS > >> DEVICE THAT CAN INTERFERE WITH DECT ? HOW ABOUT AN AM CB RADIO. !!! > > > > Wouldn't a person with ES have trouble tolerating the jamming device? > > > > It seems like you'd want fewer signals, not more... > > > > Marc > > > |
Hello Jean,
You do know that your HF meter has great trouble in detecting DECT signals. They mostly give signals from 2.000 up to 20.000 uW/m2 or more. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:37 Subject: [eSens] Re: JAMMING OF DECT SIGNALS > That was my first thought ! Jamming includes still more em emissions > I imagine. Now, I wouldn't say no to a dedicated machine use for > targeting the emf, ahahah. In fact that would be the best thing we > could come up with. Smart sabotage of phone mast, dect phone, wifi. > > Yesterday, I measured a peak at 50 uW for the dect signal. No wonder > I need a lot of coffee in the morning to wake up. But today I feel a > little bit better, because I put an aluminium paper shield against > the dect signal(I measured that it didn't make much worse the phone > mast signal coming from the opposite direction). But I doubt I'm > gonna have a lasting break. > > jean. > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: >> >> It is like chasing the devil with Satan. >> >> Greetings, >> Charles Claessens >> member Verband Baubiologie >> www.milieuziektes.nl >> www.milieuziektes.be >> www.hetbitje.nl >> checked by Norton Antivirus >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marc Martin" <marc@...> >> To: <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 21:16 >> Subject: Re: [eSens] JAMMING OF DECT SIGNALS >> >> >> >> I KNOW THAT WIFI CAN BE JAMMED OR WOBBLED BY DECT SIGNALS IS > THERE A >> >> DEVICE THAT CAN INTERFERE WITH DECT ? HOW ABOUT AN AM CB > RADIO. !!! >> > >> > Wouldn't a person with ES have trouble tolerating the jamming > device? >> > >> > It seems like you'd want fewer signals, not more... >> > >> > Marc >> > >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > |
Hi Charles,
yes I understand my meter is very unprecise. Also so far I have not been able to measure one single channel, it goes on scanning all the predefined dect channels. But for the values, the scales are the same as for the other frequencies. I can measure values in the magnitude of the uW/m2, it can measure still below, like in the nW/m2. 2000 uW/m2 !!! I'm scared, you mean that the measures on the display are wrong ???? jean. --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > Hello Jean, > > You do know that your HF meter has great trouble in detecting DECT signals. > They mostly give signals from 2.000 up to 20.000 uW/m2 or more. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > |
I'm really anxious to know more about that, because for now I've
measured from 5 to 20 uW/m2 for the dect channels. I understand this is precisely where my meter is wrong : getting the value for a single isolated frequency. Now if you're telling me that in fact the value is like 2000uW/m2 or more instead of the 20 uW/m2 displayed !!!!!! I'll be back later if you answer today. jean. --- In [hidden email], "jean" <tdx244@...> wrote: > > Hi Charles, > > yes I understand my meter is very unprecise. > > Also so far I have not been able to measure one single channel, it > goes on scanning all the predefined dect channels. > > But for the values, the scales are the same as for the other > frequencies. I can measure values in the magnitude of the uW/m2, > can measure still below, like in the nW/m2. 2000 uW/m2 !!! I'm > scared, you mean that the measures on the display are wrong ???? > > jean. > > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote: > > > > Hello Jean, > > > > You do know that your HF meter has great trouble in detecting > signals. > > They mostly give signals from 2.000 up to 20.000 uW/m2 or more. > > > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > www.milieuziektes.be > > www.hetbitje.nl > > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > |
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We do not bother about nW/m2.
For us, the uW/m2 are important. Regarding DECT signals, this meter gives only what we call *housenumbers*. I am sorry for you, but that is the case. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 16:29 Subject: [eSens] Re: JAMMING OF DECT SIGNALS > Hi Charles, > > yes I understand my meter is very unprecise. > > Also so far I have not been able to measure one single channel, it > goes on scanning all the predefined dect channels. > > But for the values, the scales are the same as for the other > frequencies. I can measure values in the magnitude of the uW/m2, it > can measure still below, like in the nW/m2. 2000 uW/m2 !!! I'm > scared, you mean that the measures on the display are wrong ???? > > jean. > > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: >> >> Hello Jean, >> >> You do know that your HF meter has great trouble in detecting DECT > signals. >> They mostly give signals from 2.000 up to 20.000 uW/m2 or more. >> >> Greetings, >> Charles Claessens >> member Verband Baubiologie >> www.milieuziektes.nl >> www.milieuziektes.be >> www.hetbitje.nl >> checked by Norton Antivirus >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > |
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HI,
I'm curious, has anyone been able to try the jammers? As far as I've looked they're not legal in the U.S. My first thoughts agree, it would add more. Then again, perhaps it works like noise cancellation tech. making an equal and opposite wave that cancels each other out. Anyone know? ~ Snoshoe --- In [hidden email], "jean" <tdx244@...> wrote: > > That was my first thought ! Jamming includes still more em emissions > I imagine. Now, I wouldn't say no to a dedicated machine use for > targeting the emf, ahahah. In fact that would be the best thing we > could come up with. Smart sabotage of phone mast, dect phone, wifi. > > Yesterday, I measured a peak at 50 uW for the dect signal. No wonder > I need a lot of coffee in the morning to wake up. But today I feel a > little bit better, because I put an aluminium paper shield against > the dect signal(I measured that it didn't make much worse the phone > mast signal coming from the opposite direction). But I doubt I'm > gonna have a lasting break. > > jean. > > --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@> wrote: > > > > It is like chasing the devil with Satan. > > > > Greetings, > > Charles Claessens > > member Verband Baubiologie > > www.milieuziektes.nl > > www.milieuziektes.be > > www.hetbitje.nl > > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marc Martin" <marc@> > > To: <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 21:16 > > Subject: Re: [eSens] JAMMING OF DECT SIGNALS > > > > > > >> I KNOW THAT WIFI CAN BE JAMMED OR WOBBLED BY DECT SIGNALS IS > THERE A > > >> DEVICE THAT CAN INTERFERE WITH DECT ? HOW ABOUT AN AM CB > RADIO. !!! > > > > > > Wouldn't a person with ES have trouble tolerating the jamming > device? > > > > > > It seems like you'd want fewer signals, not more... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > |
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That would still be okay if there was some kind of multiplication
factor. Say if I measure 10 uW on my meter I just have to multiply it by 20 to find the correct value. Now, I borrowed the meter with the green large antenna, one year ago, and maybe the measures for the phone mast were of the same range than what I can get right now with my meter. I have to find back the recored I made, though. Okay more news : close to the wall with the neighbor, I measured up to 140 uW for the dect today... jean. --- In [hidden email], "charles" <charles@...> wrote: > > We do not bother about nW/m2. > For us, the uW/m2 are important. > > Regarding DECT signals, this meter gives only what we call *housenumbers*. > I am sorry for you, but that is the case. > > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jean" <tdx244@...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 16:29 > Subject: [eSens] Re: JAMMING OF DECT SIGNALS > > > > Hi Charles, > > > > yes I understand my meter is very unprecise. > > > > Also so far I have not been able to measure one single channel, > > goes on scanning all the predefined dect channels. > > > > But for the values, the scales are the same as for the other > > frequencies. I can measure values in the magnitude of the uW/m2, it > > can measure still below, like in the nW/m2. 2000 uW/m2 !!! I'm > > scared, you mean that the measures on the display are wrong ???? > > > > jean. |
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