Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

The symptoms are as follows after one hour on a desk top PC :-
Anxiety/fatigue/stress/panic/memory loss/ feeling surreal as if everything is in slow motion. This condition persists the next day. Is my only option to give up my computer and if I don`t will the condition worsen?

{I do boxer fit class twice a week and recently I have noticed at the end of my training I don`t seem to get the `feel good factor` as did 12 months ago when I started. Could it be over training or EMF given off by gym fluorescent lights?}

Answers and comments most appreciated.

> The symptoms are as follows after one hour on a desk top PC :-
> Anxiety/fatigue/stress/panic/memory loss/ feeling surreal as if
> everything is in slow motion. This condition persists the next day. Is
> my only option to give up my computer and if I don`t will the
> condition worsen?

Giving up your computer is NOT your only option, and in fact if one is
really patient and can afford to try a lot of different things, one
can largely overcome or eliminate the sensitivity.

Certainly your total daily exposure is contributing to your sensitivity.
So that includes the amount of time you spend underneath florescent
lights, using a computer, watching a TV, using a cellphone or wireless
phone, are nearby wireless Internet (yours, your neighbors, in coffee shops,
etc.), nearby energy efficient lights. Reducing anything that isn't
really necessary is a good first step -- for example, switching to wired
Internet and phones, going back to incandescent lighting, moving
electronics further away from you, etc. It's possible that you've got a
piece of electronics that is particularly nasty (e.g. almost any plasma
TV would fall into that category, as would some computers), and if so,
you may need to replace it with something else that is less nasty.
It's also possible your in an environment with electrical wiring that
worsens the situation.

Also, if you have metal on your person while near EMF fields, you might
want to try removing it (this would include eyeglasses, necklaces, etc.)

Also, there are a variety of things that one can do from a health-
improvement standpoint that can reduce one's sensitivity -- minerals,
vitamins, enzymes, detoxing heavy metals and chemicals, eliminating
parasites and bad bacteria while rebuilding good bacteria, removing
metal dental work, supporting various organs like the adrenals,
thyroid, liver.

There are also "EMF protection devices", although people react
differently to various devices, so this is a trial & error process.
I have personally found a few of these to be quite helpful, but some
others have actually worsened symptoms like anxiety.

And some folks have used shielding materials around their electronics,
on their walls, etc. to reduce their exposure to EMF.

Marc

Marc is right. But I'd add start by unplugging all electronics when not in
use.
Watch out for dimmer switches, anything with a computer display, touch
lights, etc.
Hold an AM radio up to everything. If it buzzes, try to get rid of it (but
all computers
buzz; a laptop on battery with external keyboard could be a big improvement
though.
The Asus EEE with SSD has been recommended. Apple laptops are better than
average.).

Bill

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> Watch out for dimmer switches

Oh, yes -- replace dimmer switches with regular switches,
and if you want less light, use fewer bulbs or a bulb
with less wattage.

Also, reduce your exposure to all things unhealthy --
like chemical-laden cleaning products, personal
products (soap, shampoo, etc.), unhealthy food, etc.
If you live anywhere near a health food store,
you can buy healthier foods, soaps, cleaners, etc.
which may make things better (as your liver will
have fewer toxins to process on a daily basis)

Marc

Soon as I get a chance to try out the Eee PC with battery and SSD, I'll let everyone know what I found!

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From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?
To: [hidden email]
Received: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 9:33 PM

















Marc is right. But I'd add start by unplugging all electronics when not in

use.

Watch out for dimmer switches, anything with a computer display, touch

lights, etc.

Hold an AM radio up to everything. If it buzzes, try to get rid of it (but

all computers

buzz; a laptop on battery with external keyboard could be a big improvement

though.

The Asus EEE with SSD has been recommended. Apple laptops are better than

average.).



Bill



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>

>

> The symptoms are as follows after one hour on a desk top PC :-

> Anxiety/fatigue/ stress/panic/ memory loss/ feeling surreal as if everything

> is in slow motion. This condition persists the next day. Is my only option

> to give up my computer and if I don`t will the condition worsen?

>

> {I do boxer fit class twice a week and recently I have noticed at the end

> of my training I don`t seem to get the `feel good factor` as did 12 months

> ago when I started. Could it be over training or EMF given off by gym

> fluorescent lights?}

>

> Answers and comments most appreciated.

>

>

>



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Marc,

You seem to have a good handle on EMS. EMS effects me in a variety of ways, one being sleeplessness. Over the last 6 weeks I have not had a full nights sleep, often as little as 2 hours a night. This seems to coincide with the placement of a huge tower 1/2 mile away (right next to our local high school). I should be getting information in the next couple of days so I can see when the tower was activated (because I know the exact night this ongoing sleeplessness started). We also had new neighbors move in that same weekend. At this time I am trying to narrow down the "suspects".

Do you have any suggestions on preventing EMS so I can get a full nights sleep? Would sleeping in the basement help? I'm willing to try it, but not crazy about the idea because of allergies.

I have already done most of the suggestions you listed below:
Removing my amalgams, removing all wireless from my home, limited amount of time on my computer, change in diet, eating more organic, avoidance of chemicals (I have multiple chemical sensitives as well) etc......

Unfortunately I need some low cost suggestions if possible, my husband has been unemployed for almost 9 months.

Thanks for any insight,

jw




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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:35:03 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?





> The symptoms are as follows after one hour on a desk top PC :-
> Anxiety/fatigue/ stress/panic/ memory loss/ feeling surreal as if
> everything is in slow motion. This condition persists the next day. Is
> my only option to give up my computer and if I don`t will the
> condition worsen?

Giving up your computer is NOT your only option, and in fact if one is
really patient and can afford to try a lot of different things, one
can largely overcome or eliminate the sensitivity.

Certainly your total daily exposure is contributing to your sensitivity.
So that includes the amount of time you spend underneath florescent
lights, using a computer, watching a TV, using a cellphone or wireless
phone, are nearby wireless Internet (yours, your neighbors, in coffee shops,
etc.), nearby energy efficient lights. Reducing anything that isn't
really necessary is a good first step -- for example, switching to wired
Internet and phones, going back to incandescent lighting, moving
electronics further away from you, etc. It's possible that you've got a
piece of electronics that is particularly nasty (e.g. almost any plasma
TV would fall into that category, as would some computers), and if so,
you may need to replace it with something else that is less nasty.
It's also possible your in an environment with electrical wiring that
worsens the situation.

Also, if you have metal on your person while near EMF fields, you might
want to try removing it (this would include eyeglasses, necklaces, etc.)

Also, there are a variety of things that one can do from a health-
improvement standpoint that can reduce one's sensitivity -- minerals,
vitamins, enzymes, detoxing heavy metals and chemicals, eliminating
parasites and bad bacteria while rebuilding good bacteria, removing
metal dental work, supporting various organs like the adrenals,
thyroid, liver.

There are also "EMF protection devices", although people react
differently to various devices, so this is a trial & error process.
I have personally found a few of these to be quite helpful, but some
others have actually worsened symptoms like anxiety.

And some folks have used shielding materials around their electronics,
on their walls, etc. to reduce their exposure to EMF.

Marc



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> Do you have any suggestions on preventing EMS so I can get a full
> nights sleep? Would sleeping in the basement help? I'm willing to
> try it, but not crazy about the idea because of allergies.

Hmmm, could you describe a little more specifically what you mean by
"sleeplessness"? Is this a feeling of hyperactivity? Anxiety? Toxemia?
Or simply not being able to get to sleep?

Some people suggest things like painting your wall with shielded paint,
but personally I avoid solutions that cannot easily be undone, as
sometimes the solution turns out to be worse than the problem.

My own sleeplessness problems in the past have been mostly a toxemia
type, which I would solve with toxin neutralizers like antioxidants
(H-Minus, Amrit Amrosia), magnesium citrate ("Natural Calm"), or
activated charcoal.

If it's an anxiety type, then perhaps Inositol (a B-Vitamin) might help,
or maybe Valerian (an herbal). There are also things like GABA and 5-
HTP (although for me, 5-HTP made me sleepy the next morning!)

As for EMF protection devices, my usual recommendations are something
from Quantum Products, although I've personally found that these can
make sleeplessness WORSE if I'm already prone to it (e.g., if I've
recently drank some tea). Springlife Polarizers might be a better bet,
although I'm not sure about their effectiveness against cellphone tower
frequencies, as I don't think I've really had that problem here.

Marc

In a message dated 05/06/2009 05:28:10 GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I have already done most of the suggestions you listed below:
Removing my amalgams, removing all wireless from my home, limited amount
of time on my computer, change in diet, eating more organic, avoidance of
chemicals (I have multiple chemical sensitives as well) etc......

Unfortunately I need some low cost suggestions if possible, my husband has
been unemployed for almost 9 months.

Thanks for any insight,



Hi I presume that you have checked the RF in your house with a meter, good
start is the Electrosmog detector also an AM radio, check your matress if
its a metal sprung type with the AM radio (tuned in to end of dial 1600khz)
metal matresses can pick up a great deal of RF and often in the form of
dirty power rf transfered from adjacent walls, floors and wires. Assuming you
check with a meter you could erect a microwave reflective fabric over the
windows and also turn of as much electricity at the mains box as possible
everynight. Definitaely move your bed away from walls etc.

paul uk


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In a message dated 04/06/2009 22:44:09 GMT Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes:

everything
> is in slow motion. This condition persists the next day. Is my only
option
> to give up my computer and if I don`t will the condition worsen?
>
> {I do boxer fit class twice a week and recently I have noticed at the end
> of my training I don`t seem to get the `feel good factor` as did 12
months
> ago when I started. Could it be over training or EMF given off by gym
> fluorescent lights?}
>
> Answers and comments most appreciated


Paul uk replies - sadly this is all to familiar scenario. Ypu are likely
going into the 1st phase of EMF meltdown, take steps now to reduce your
exposure and total load. Use the pc as quickly and efficiently as you can,
distance yourself from the main (I say as I smell burning from the pan I left
on the stove and tottally forgot ! sound familiar...) anyway keep your
distance from all electronic devices, you could use zoomtext on your pc so that
you can veiw this from a good distance. As for the training, and in
general get outside in the fresh air andsunshine as much as you can, you will see
an improvement. I think once your immune system has tagged and classified
emf as bad you will find that it will bassically try to protect you by
inducing many of the symptoms that you describe (a cascading effect
unfortunately) rather like pain and smell. Take it as a warning, in some way you
might be lucky that your body is lettintg you know that something is wrong.

Paul


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Paul and Marc thanks for your comments.

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically aches from lack of sleep (like a bad flu) but my mind will not fall asleep. If I do fall asleep when I wake up I am instantly awake and alert and can not fall back to sleep. If I take Ambien I still wake up after 3 - 4 hours and am alert.

I guess this would fall into the hyperactivity category. I know it is not anxiety and I'm not 100% sure what you mean by toxicity. As I mentioned I do have Multiple Chemical Sensitivity as well but I can usually distinguish between the effects of MCS and EMS.

Thanks again for your insight,

jw


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From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 6:18:22 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?






In a message dated 05/06/2009 05:28:10 GMT Daylight Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

I have already done most of the suggestions you listed below:
Removing my amalgams, removing all wireless from my home, limited amount
of time on my computer, change in diet, eating more organic, avoidance of
chemicals (I have multiple chemical sensitives as well) etc......

Unfortunately I need some low cost suggestions if possible, my husband has
been unemployed for almost 9 months.

Thanks for any insight,

Hi I presume that you have checked the RF in your house with a meter, good
start is the Electrosmog detector also an AM radio, check your matress if
its a metal sprung type with the AM radio (tuned in to end of dial 1600khz)
metal matresses can pick up a great deal of RF and often in the form of
dirty power rf transfered from adjacent walls, floors and wires. Assuming you
check with a meter you could erect a microwave reflective fabric over the
windows and also turn of as much electricity at the mains box as possible
everynight. Definitaely move your bed away from walls etc.

paul uk

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> We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where
> could I locate microwave reflective material?

LessEMF.com is a good place to look.

> I guess this would fall into the hyperactivity category.

Yes, that's what it sounds like. I assume you've eliminated
all sources of caffeine, and aren't taking too much iodine?
I'd still suggest looking at things like melatonin, inositol,
B vitamins, magnesium, calcium, etc.

> I'm not 100% sure what you mean by toxicity.

For me, toxicity symptoms would be things like dehydration,
dry mouth, metallic taste in mouth, headache, flu-like
symptoms, etc. Quantum Products are good for relieving
these sorts of problems, but probably not for hyperactivity
(and might make hyperactivity worse).

Marc

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically


Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such
a bad deal for us all !


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw


________________________________
From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?






In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such
a bad deal for us all !

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Jennie,
 
You are not alone! I stopped using silverware in the early 1990's. Prior to that I had a red rash on my hands that was quite intense. I noticed a "strange sensation" when I picked up the silverware to eat with so I fugured there may be a connection. When  

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM








Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

____________ _________ _________ __
From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

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Hi Jennie,
 
You are not alone! I stopped using silverware in the early 1990's. Prior to that I had a red rash on my hands that was quite intense. I noticed a "strange sensation" when I picked up the silverware to eat with so I fugured there may be a connection. When I  

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM








Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

____________ _________ _________ __
From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Jennie,
 
You are not alone! I stopped using silverware in the early 1990's. Prior to that I had a red rash on my hands that was quite intense. I noticed a "strange sensation" when I picked up the silverware to eat with so I fugured there may be a connection. When I switched  

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM








Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

____________ _________ _________ __
From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

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Hi Jennie,
 
You are not alone! I stopped using silverware in the early 1990's. Prior to that I had a red rash on my hands that was quite intense. I noticed a "strange sensation" when I picked up the silverware to eat with so I fugured there may be a connection. When I switched to  

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM








Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

____________ _________ _________ __
From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Jennie,
 
You are not alone! I stopped using silverware in the early 1990's. Prior to that I had a red rash on my hands that was quite intense. I noticed a "strange sensation" when I picked up the silverware to eat with so I fugured there may be a connection. When I switched to plastic  

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM








Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

____________ _________ _________ __
From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

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Hi again Jennie,
 
Sorry about the duplicate emails. Suddenly they got sent off as I was typing.
 
Anyway, when I switched to plastic utensils the rashes disappeared. So I knew for sure I had an allergy to metal. Back then I had no clue it had to dowith EMF although I was living 30 yards from a power tower and had been for some time. My research much later clued me into the obvious that I didn'twant to face - that in order to get well I had to move.
 
It was suggested to me to get magnetic insoles as I had symptoms of  a "negative polarity". They helped to reduce the sensation I had when touching metal. I had developed metal poisoning as I was absorbing metal that I touched so rapidly into my system. Anyway, oral chelation takes care of that. Istill take it daily.
 
I do eat microwaved food but I have very poor taste buds so I can't taste the bad taste you described. Interesting...
 
So much more I could tell you but I want to keep this short. Hope this helps. If you want more deatails/info just ask me. 
 
Cheryl
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From: Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM








Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

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From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

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hi Marc and Jennie,
 
i had the same type of sleeplessness, Jennie.  high dose sublingual B12 at night before bed helped it and also took care of vibrating feelings i had.  and i am not saying everyone would be the same, but i do great with the Quantum Pro product, which has a button on the back which you can adjust that dials anxiety back for me as well.  i have slept fine with the Prorunning.
 
di

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 1:27 PM








> We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where
> could I locate microwave reflective material?

LessEMF.com is a good place to look.

> I guess this would fall into the hyperactivity category.

Yes, that's what it sounds like. I assume you've eliminated
all sources of caffeine, and aren't taking too much iodine?
I'd still suggest looking at things like melatonin, inositol,
B vitamins, magnesium, calcium, etc.

> I'm not 100% sure what you mean by toxicity.

For me, toxicity symptoms would be things like dehydration,
dry mouth, metallic taste in mouth, headache, flu-like
symptoms, etc. Quantum Products are good for relieving
these sorts of problems, but probably not for hyperactivity
(and might make hyperactivity worse).

Marc
















     

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