Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

> i do great with the Quantum Pro product, which has a button on the
> back which you can adjust that dials anxiety back for me as well.

Button on the back? Mine has a knob on the front, and that's it. Does
your Quantum Pro have more than one control on it?

Marc

Can relate to the microwave food. I was recently working away and the accomodation I was in only had a microwave for cooking. After about a week , I began to feel really unwell ( still recovering). It really upset my energy system, will NEVER eat micowaved food again. My impression is that the dead and denatured molecules created as a result of fragmenting cells at ultra high frequencies creates abnormal chi which the body reacts to and cannot use. If anything Ive learned from this that live food equals live chi- expensive lesson to learn.

--- In [hidden email], Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@...> wrote:

hi again, Jennie,
 
yes, i have problems with metals, but to a much less extent than you.  i still use silverware and metals in some situations as i have learned over time how to do so.  i think what might help you alot is "grounding" yourself.  it helped me alot with this.  go out in the forest--fairly deep into the trees--or near a large body of running water.  sit on the ground with your tailbone touching the ground or on a tree stump.  sit there and "unwind" for about 40 mins.  if in 20 mins you feel worse, pick another spot.  you can also walk barefoot on a beach, sit on beach, literally hug a tree, and like ideas.  i try to do this at least twice a week.  in winter only i hug trees; i consider this the least helpful option.  if you wear shoes, this is the time to wear conductive soled shoes.  but you might be like me, where wearing rubber soles helps best in your daily life other than when grounding. 
 
it is probably a sign you have toxic metals built up in your body.  i am in contact now with a woman in France who is chelating metals.  there is a particular way which works better than others and i don't yet know the fine details.  if you read French, tho, i can send you the name of the bookwhere this info is detailed.  Shoot--i will do that anyway for others toread...  it is "Venite's Nu Les Maladies Emeyentes" by Francoise Cambayrac.  i got this info via Suzanne, whose boyfriend contacted me on this forum for help for her.  she is now doing much better and may soon be able to join the firum herself.
 
hope this helps,
diane

hi Cheryl,
 
didn't see your posts till after i wrote mine to Jennie.  we have so muchin common, tho i now do not react to metals usually.  do you 2 also react badly to iron ore and metal deposits in the ground?  that can make me still very ill when i am travelling.
 
di

--- On Sat, 6/6/09, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 1:39 AM








Hi again Jennie,
 
Sorry about the duplicate emails. Suddenly they got sent off as I was typing.
 
Anyway, when I switched to plastic utensils the rashes disappeared. So I knew for sure I had an allergy to metal. Back then I had no clue it had to dowith EMF although I was living 30 yards from a power tower and had been for some time. My research much later clued me into the obvious that I didn'twant to face - that in order to get well I had to move.
 
It was suggested to me to get magnetic insoles as I had symptoms of  a "negative polarity". They helped to reduce the sensation I had when touching metal. I had developed metal poisoning as I was absorbing metal that I touched so rapidly into my system. Anyway, oral chelation takes care of that. Istill take it daily.
 
I do eat microwaved food but I have very poor taste buds so I can't taste the bad taste you described. Interesting. ..
 
So much more I could tell you but I want to keep this short. Hope this helps. If you want more deatails/info just ask me. 
 
Cheryl
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM

Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

____________ _________ _________ __
From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

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Grounding your body does seem to work for me to. Just taking my shoes off and standing in the grass in the forest make my headache go away.

Has anyone tried sleeping on a bed sheet that is grounded to the earth.

This is a link to a website that provides these sheets - they are expensiveand I was just wondering if they worked for anyone.  

http://www.sleepgrounded.com/pd-3.aspx?code=6000

Also - where do I get shoes that are conductive to the ground - instead of rubber soles?

thanks

rewire.me

hi Marc,
 
i think this is the difference between the Q-Pro and the Q-Home.  you have the Home, right?  yes, my Pro has the dial on front and a button with 10 comfort settings on the back.  in speaking with Margi, the company rep,we decided the Pro was a better one for me to try and as it is, i already have it 3/4 maxed out, without any phone, tv, computer, etc yet in my home.  i am waiting till the digital conversion on june 12 till i hook anything else up to see if i can tolerate the new vibes.  ;)  also, since my hand surgery, i am not as sure of symtomology as before, so i have not been spending everyday at my other house.  my hand swelling is still bad andi thought it might be worse temporarily at that house esp with the Pro--from detoxing.  of course surgeon is telling me i will have swelling from surgery for perhaps the next year!  oh the joy...   emfs seem to affect my nerve pain (in hand) a great deal, so i had to send for the Q Companion
too, to try when out and about.  Got it but have not yet used it--will let you know how it goes.  :)
 
interesting side note--since surgery, i can sense pain in my head and hand when we open a door or window at that house!  i called Margi to ask if the Pro effectively works with open windows and doors and she says yes, but iwonder.  can you tell a difference with open windows? 
 
di

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 12:05 PM








> i do great with the Quantum Pro product, which has a button on the
> back which you can adjust that dials anxiety back for me as well.

Button on the back? Mine has a knob on the front, and that's it. Does
your Quantum Pro have more than one control on it?

Marc
















     

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> i think this is the difference between the Q-Pro and the Q-Home.  you
> have the Home, right?  yes, my Pro has the dial on front and a button
> with 10 comfort settings on the back.

Actually, I have both a Quantum Home and a Quantum Pro (for home and
for work), but my Quantum Pro is many years old, and it sounds like
they've changed the Pro to now have the button on the back.

> i am waiting till the digital conversion on june 12 till
> i hook anything else up to see if i can tolerate the new vibes.  ;) 

I am not anticipating any new frequencies on June 12th, as that
is the date that they shut OFF the analog frequencies. The
digital frequencies have already been broadcasting for years,
but I suppose on June 12th they may increase the power or change
the channel that they are broadcasting on, which may impact
someone.

> interesting side note--since surgery, i can sense pain in my head and
> hand when we open a door or window at that house!  i called Margi to ask
> if the Pro effectively works with open windows and doors and she says
> yes, but i wonder.  can you tell a difference with open windows? 

I don't think I was ever that sensitive!

Marc

> Also - where do I get shoes that are conductive to the ground - instead
> of rubber soles?

I got mine at a local Red Wing Shoe store (USA).

Marc

Hi Di,
 
How do you know where the iron ore and metal deposits in the ground are located?
I don't travel - am somewhat agoraphobic, but am able to drive around the local area. Very interesting that that could also be effecting me.
 
What did you do to decrease the effect of the metal? Sorry if you posted italready - I am behind in reading all the posts. Did you also get metal poisoning?
 
Thanks for your response.
 
Cheryl


--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 9:32 AM








hi Cheryl,
 
didn't see your posts till after i wrote mine to Jennie.  we have so muchin common, tho i now do not react to metals usually.  do you 2 also react badly to iron ore and metal deposits in the ground?  that can make me still very ill when i am travelling.
 
di

--- On Sat, 6/6/09, Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 1:39 AM

Hi again Jennie,
 
Sorry about the duplicate emails. Suddenly they got sent off as I was typing.
 
Anyway, when I switched to plastic utensils the rashes disappeared. So I knew for sure I had an allergy to metal. Back then I had no clue it had to dowith EMF although I was living 30 yards from a power tower and had been for some time. My research much later clued me into the obvious that I didn'twant to face - that in order to get well I had to move.
 
It was suggested to me to get magnetic insoles as I had symptoms of  a "negative polarity". They helped to reduce the sensation I had when touching metal. I had developed metal poisoning as I was absorbing metal that I touched so rapidly into my system. Anyway, oral chelation takes care of that. Istill take it daily.
 
I do eat microwaved food but I have very poor taste buds so I can't taste the bad taste you described. Interesting. ..
 
So much more I could tell you but I want to keep this short. Hope this helps. If you want more deatails/info just ask me. 
 
Cheryl
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM

Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

____________ _________ _________ __
From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

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I'm curious about this (and I've heard of such things before).
Here are some thoughts:
any ambient electric field will be concentrated near any pointy part of
a metal object.
any ambient magnetic field will be concentrated near the ends of any
magnetic metal object (that a magnet will stick to).
ambient RF fields will I think have a larger magnetic component near
the object.

Bill

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Jennie Wassenaar <[hidden email]>wrote:


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hi Bill,
 
i notice it worse towards pointy ends of metal, but i can feel energy over the entire piece of metal when i touch it.  how much i can feel, tho, is pretty much proportional to the amount of emfs in the area.  i can eat now with silverware in both homes i have (i am between houses at moment and hope to soon sell one).  but could not eat comfortably w silver in the onehouse till i used the Quantum Pro.  (my other house is in a secluded river valley, but has flooding w asso mold and pesticide issues, which is why we were trying to move.)  yes, i also can feel more concentrated emfs between some metal objects or when they are in high rf, i can feel more rf near the object, when not touching it. 
 
d


--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 11:36 PM








I'm curious about this (and I've heard of such things before).
Here are some thoughts:
any ambient electric field will be concentrated near any pointy part of
a metal object.
any ambient magnetic field will be concentrated near the ends of any
magnetic metal object (that a magnet will stick to).
ambient RF fields will I think have a larger magnetic component near
the object.

Bill

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>wrote:

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hi Cheryl,
 
re how i know where ore deposits are.... well, i react then i investigate.  lol  i live in an area where there used to be many furnaces for forging various metals.  that is how i came to suspect i was reacting to ore deposits.  i noticed i reacted very often near antique furnaces.  you might be able to get a map for this from your state govt or agricultural extention.  maybe there is a reason you are agorophobic!  es could also contribute i am sure!  i have reacted in areas of ore deposits since i was a child.  i came over time to suspect magnetic frequencies there as being involved.  i also had problems wearing watches from the time i was a child.  and i seem to attract into my body electrical frequencies--likei am a capacitor.
 
did many things to decrease my symptoms and suspect various things are involved....  i have been investigating channelopathy diseases and saw a suspected channelopathy involved metal "hoarding", for lack of a better term.  i wanted to share the site here, but have since misplaced it, had my accident and surgery, etc, etc.... as result, i have not got around to going there again yet.  if/when i find this info again, i will post it here.  i have long suspected there is a genetic component which causes toxic metals to accummulate in some people.  the site i read said the lymphatic system function is usually affected due to this and that is another thingwhich i see as rife in this forum--not only are metals a problem, but all sorts of toxic issues are going on. 
 
most of what i have done involves detoxing, utilizing nutrients to strenghthen and heal various areas--esp liver, and treating known deficiencies....  i also wrote a long post recently, if you can look back several weeks (it was sent to Christine in the subject line), noting all the things i could think of which have helped me.  this was for es as a whole, but i consider the metal problem part of my es.  i recently mentioned grounding and see that as helpful.  i recently bought a Quantum Pro--which i think the company calls an energy or electrical "conditioner", which i just mentioned to Bill here, that has helped. 
 
metal poisoning?  not sure what constitutes metal poisoning.  i did have rashes to some metals, not anything more than that and es type symptoms, tho.  i got very ill after amalgam filling removal, to the point i could barely function.  i had some chelation.  for me personally, i find ithelped right away, but did not last.  i wouldn't hesitate going there again tho if i knew the doc knew what he was doing and was using the best possible procedure.  hence the info i sent re the french book, recently.  my understanding is that some beneficial metals are not able to be utilizedby the body due to toxic levels of harmful metals.  to that end, i have tried after detoxing/chelation to add particular minerals back, which has had some success.  i certainly have not been as bad in this regard, tho, as some here, like Loni, who pretty much reacts badly even to beneficialmetals.
 
hope this helps,
di

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Cheryl Griffing <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 1:53 PM








Hi Di,
 
How do you know where the iron ore and metal deposits in the ground are located?
I don't travel - am somewhat agoraphobic, but am able to drive around the local area. Very interesting that that could also be effecting me.
 
What did you do to decrease the effect of the metal? Sorry if you posted italready - I am behind in reading all the posts. Did you also get metal poisoning?
 
Thanks for your response.
 
Cheryl

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 9:32 AM

hi Cheryl,
 
didn't see your posts till after i wrote mine to Jennie.  we have so muchin common, tho i now do not react to metals usually.  do you 2 also react badly to iron ore and metal deposits in the ground?  that can make me still very ill when i am travelling.
 
di

--- On Sat, 6/6/09, Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 1:39 AM

Hi again Jennie,
 
Sorry about the duplicate emails. Suddenly they got sent off as I was typing.
 
Anyway, when I switched to plastic utensils the rashes disappeared. So I knew for sure I had an allergy to metal. Back then I had no clue it had to dowith EMF although I was living 30 yards from a power tower and had been for some time. My research much later clued me into the obvious that I didn'twant to face - that in order to get well I had to move.
 
It was suggested to me to get magnetic insoles as I had symptoms of  a "negative polarity". They helped to reduce the sensation I had when touching metal. I had developed metal poisoning as I was absorbing metal that I touched so rapidly into my system. Anyway, oral chelation takes care of that. Istill take it daily.
 
I do eat microwaved food but I have very poor taste buds so I can't taste the bad taste you described. Interesting. ..
 
So much more I could tell you but I want to keep this short. Hope this helps. If you want more deatails/info just ask me. 
 
Cheryl
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM

Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

____________ _________ _________ __
From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

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hi, Marc,
 
thanks for the info re the digital conversion.  i have asked around locally and nobody could tell me what you did!  this was what i was wondering.  i doubt there will be a difference but will still wait to see since it is only days away.  i thought the added digital frequencies might bother me.  that might be what i noticed having changed 2 weeks before last Christmas.
 
thanks again,
d
 


--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 1:24 PM








> i think this is the difference between the Q-Pro and the Q-Home.  you
> have the Home, right?  yes, my Pro has the dial on front and a button
> with 10 comfort settings on the back.

Actually, I have both a Quantum Home and a Quantum Pro (for home and
for work), but my Quantum Pro is many years old, and it sounds like
they've changed the Pro to now have the button on the back.

> i am waiting till the digital conversion on june 12 till
> i hook anything else up to see if i can tolerate the new vibes.  ;) 

I am not anticipating any new frequencies on June 12th, as that
is the date that they shut OFF the analog frequencies. The
digital frequencies have already been broadcasting for years,
but I suppose on June 12th they may increase the power or change
the channel that they are broadcasting on, which may impact
someone.

> interesting side note--since surgery, i can sense pain in my head and
> hand when we open a door or window at that house!  i called Margi to ask
> if the Pro effectively works with open windows and doors and she says
> yes, but i wonder.  can you tell a difference with open windows? 

I don't think I was ever that sensitive!

Marc
















     

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ps  you need an upgrade, Marc!  ;)

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 1:24 PM








> i think this is the difference between the Q-Pro and the Q-Home.  you
> have the Home, right?  yes, my Pro has the dial on front and a button
> with 10 comfort settings on the back.

Actually, I have both a Quantum Home and a Quantum Pro (for home and
for work), but my Quantum Pro is many years old, and it sounds like
they've changed the Pro to now have the button on the back.

> i am waiting till the digital conversion on june 12 till
> i hook anything else up to see if i can tolerate the new vibes.  ;) 

I am not anticipating any new frequencies on June 12th, as that
is the date that they shut OFF the analog frequencies. The
digital frequencies have already been broadcasting for years,
but I suppose on June 12th they may increase the power or change
the channel that they are broadcasting on, which may impact
someone.

> interesting side note--since surgery, i can sense pain in my head and
> hand when we open a door or window at that house!  i called Margi to ask
> if the Pro effectively works with open windows and doors and she says
> yes, but i wonder.  can you tell a difference with open windows? 

I don't think I was ever that sensitive!

Marc
















     

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hi,
 
i just wear leather mocassins.  it is hard to tell what is in most shoes.
 
d

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, the_man_whom_would_be_king <[hidden email]>wrote:


From: the_man_whom_would_be_king <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 12:49 PM








Grounding your body does seem to work for me to. Just taking my shoes off and standing in the grass in the forest make my headache go away.

Has anyone tried sleeping on a bed sheet that is grounded to the earth.

This is a link to a website that provides these sheets - they are expensiveand I was just wondering if they worked for anyone.

http://www.sleepgro unded.com/ pd-3.aspx? code=6000

Also - where do I get shoes that are conductive to the ground - instead of rubber soles?

thanks

rewire.me

















     

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Hi Evie,
 
Thanks for all the info! Sorry it took so long to get back to you.
 
I am quite certain that there is a connection between the agoraphobia, OCD and high anxiety levels that I have and the EMF sensitivity. I am currentlylooking to purchase a home so that I can get away from the power tower that I live near. Finally homes have come down enough so that I can afford to move. It has been a long and frustrating wait for this.
 
Did you demagnetize the watches? That's what I did. Went through them so fast and I didn't have a clue what was happening back then.
 
As I understand it the reason I got metal poisoning was because of my negative polarity which is caused by EMF exposure. Metal is positive, hence if your body is negatively polarized you will rapidly absorb metals into the body. This accounts for the strange feeling that you may experience when you come into contact with metals.
 
I use oral chelation to detox the metals with. It does take more time but it far less expensive than the injections from the doctor. I order it from Health Resources. I have to continue to take it all the time or the metals will accumulate in my body again. During a time that I didn't use it I got ahyperactive thyroid as the metal got into the thyroid gland, as it was explained to me. Nice to be thin and eat all you want but I have to look aftermy health and take the chelation to keep the metal from killing me, as I say 20 pounds later!
 
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences with us.
 
Cheryl 
--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Evie <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 1:23 PM








hi Cheryl,
 
re how i know where ore deposits are.... well, i react then i investigate.  lol  i live in an area where there used to be many furnaces for forging various metals.  that is how i came to suspect i was reacting to ore deposits.  i noticed i reacted very often near antique furnaces.  you might be able to get a map for this from your state govt or agricultural extention.  maybe there is a reason you are agorophobic!  es could also contribute i am sure!  i have reacted in areas of ore deposits since i was a child.  i came over time to suspect magnetic frequencies there as being involved.  i also had problems wearing watches from the time i was a child.  and i seem to attract into my body electrical frequencies- -like i am a capacitor.
 
did many things to decrease my symptoms and suspect various things are involved....  i have been investigating channelopathy diseases and saw a suspected channelopathy involved metal "hoarding", for lack of a better term.  i wanted to share the site here, but have since misplaced it, had my accident and surgery, etc, etc.... as result, i have not got around to going there again yet.  if/when i find this info again, i will post it here.  i have long suspected there is a genetic component which causes toxic metals to accummulate in some people.  the site i read said the lymphatic system function is usually affected due to this and that is another thingwhich i see as rife in this forum--not only are metals a problem, but all sorts of toxic issues are going on. 
 
most of what i have done involves detoxing, utilizing nutrients to strenghthen and heal various areas--esp liver, and treating known deficiencies. ...  i also wrote a long post recently, if you can look back several weeks (it was sent to Christine in the subject line), noting all the things i could think of which have helped me.  this was for es as a whole, but i consider the metal problem part of my es.  i recently mentioned grounding and see that as helpful.  i recently bought a Quantum Pro--which i think the company calls an energy or electrical "conditio ner", which i just mentioned to Bill here, that has helped. 
 
metal poisoning?  not sure what constitutes metal poisoning.  i did have rashes to some metals, not anything more than that and es type symptoms, tho.  i got very ill after amalgam filling removal, to the point i could barely function.  i had some chelation.  for me personally, i find ithelped right away, but did not last.  i wouldn't hesitate going there again tho if i knew the doc knew what he was doing and was using the best possible procedure.  hence the info i sent re the french book, recently.  my understanding is that some beneficial metals are not able to be utilizedby the body due to toxic levels of harmful metals.  to that end, i have tried after detoxing/chelation to add particular minerals back, which has had some success.  i certainly have not been as bad in this regard, tho, as some here, like Loni, who pretty much reacts badly even to beneficialmetals.
 
hope this helps,
di

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 1:53 PM

Hi Di,
 
How do you know where the iron ore and metal deposits in the ground are located?
I don't travel - am somewhat agoraphobic, but am able to drive around the local area. Very interesting that that could also be effecting me.
 
What did you do to decrease the effect of the metal? Sorry if you posted italready - I am behind in reading all the posts. Did you also get metal poisoning?
 
Thanks for your response.
 
Cheryl

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 9:32 AM

hi Cheryl,
 
didn't see your posts till after i wrote mine to Jennie.  we have so muchin common, tho i now do not react to metals usually.  do you 2 also react badly to iron ore and metal deposits in the ground?  that can make me still very ill when i am travelling.
 
di

--- On Sat, 6/6/09, Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 1:39 AM

Hi again Jennie,
 
Sorry about the duplicate emails. Suddenly they got sent off as I was typing.
 
Anyway, when I switched to plastic utensils the rashes disappeared. So I knew for sure I had an allergy to metal. Back then I had no clue it had to dowith EMF although I was living 30 yards from a power tower and had been for some time. My research much later clued me into the obvious that I didn'twant to face - that in order to get well I had to move.
 
It was suggested to me to get magnetic insoles as I had symptoms of  a "negative polarity". They helped to reduce the sensation I had when touching metal. I had developed metal poisoning as I was absorbing metal that I touched so rapidly into my system. Anyway, oral chelation takes care of that. Istill take it daily.
 
I do eat microwaved food but I have very poor taste buds so I can't taste the bad taste you described. Interesting. ..
 
So much more I could tell you but I want to keep this short. Hope this helps. If you want more deatails/info just ask me. 
 
Cheryl
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM

Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

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From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

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Dear Cheryl:

You wrote, "As I understand it the reason I got metal poisoning was becauseof my negative polarity which is caused by EMF exposure."  

How did you find out you have negative polarity? How can you tell?

Thanks,

Christine

Hi all,

I see that in the USA, analog TV transmissions will
stop at midnight tonight. If anyone feels different
tomorrow, let us know!

Marc

Hi Christine,
 
How I found out that I have a negative polarity of the body is kind of a strange story. About 10 years ago, long before I knew that the power tower I was living near was the cause of all my illnesses, I shared information about my health problems with one of my ITT Tech students. He had a medical background. He knew about negative polarities of the body because he used to give the EKG tests. He said every so often a patient would "kill" the testing machine. He asked around to find out why and found out that strong negative polarities of the body can do this. I had told him about the rapid absorption of metal into my skin and the killing (demagnetization as it turned out to be) of my wristwatches. So he used a multi-meter to test me with. This was the same one he used for his electronic class at school. Sure enough, it showed that I had a very strong negative polarity. He suggested the use of magnetic insoles which I later ordered from "Nikkon". They have
helped a lot. And for some strange reason I could never seem to get Kaiserto give me the results of my EKG no matter how many times I called them...They did seem to have a lot of problems when I had that test done, as I remember it. That test was done before I got the magnetic insoles.
 
If you demagnetize watches and have a reaction to touching metal chances are that you have a negative polarity. I believe that most, if not all, people with EMF sensitivity probably have negative polarities of the body. Just seems to make logical sense.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Cheryl 

--- On Wed, 6/10/09, christine_hoch <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: christine_hoch <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 7:08 PM








Dear Cheryl:

You wrote, "As I understand it the reason I got metal poisoning was becauseof my negative polarity which is caused by EMF exposure."

How did you find out you have negative polarity? How can you tell?

Thanks,

Christine

















     

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hi, Cheryl,
 
no problem, re speed of answering.  i am typing one handed now and take forever.  lol
 
i don't know whether demagnification caused watch stopping--windup watches i finally found i could wear a couple days at a time by never winding them.  battery watches just drain quickly, but i finally realized i could wearthem over clothing ok--as pendants or pins.

i can see where your negative polarity idea and my channelopathy idea couldmesh and both be true!  channelopathy provides an open path for toxins of all sorts into the body.  (a recent homeopathy visit netted very bad news:  i am apparently a parasite--genaric term-- magnet, too.)  it is also possible it (channelopathy) is what causes negative polarity--just a theory on my part.  but i can see how that might happen.  i have suspected i have negative polarity for some time (due to reacting well to energy exercises aimed to correct that).  how did you find you have negative polarity?
 
thanks re chelation info.  just having had several nerves, an artery, and3 tendons reattached i am a bit over committed, healthwise, at the moment to go there.  but i think i might look further into chelation when i am better.  i was having stellar results with a nutrient combo before my accident, tho.  (i cannot tell right now whether the nutrient combo is still working because i am in PAIN otherwise and fairly miserable right now yet. i had to suspend my nutrients because the meds i was on did a number tomy digestive tract.
 
thanks for your info, dear!  it helps to share,  ;)
my best to you,
diane--but evie is ok too
 

--- On Wed, 6/10/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 2:58 PM










Hi Evie,
 
Thanks for all the info! Sorry it took so long to get back to you.
 
I am quite certain that there is a connection between the agoraphobia, OCD and high anxiety levels that I have and the EMF sensitivity. I am currentlylooking to purchase a home so that I can get away from the power tower that I live near. Finally homes have come down enough so that I can afford to move. It has been a long and frustrating wait for this.
 
Did you demagnetize the watches? That's what I did. Went through them so fast and I didn't have a clue what was happening back then.
 
As I understand it the reason I got metal poisoning was because of my negative polarity which is caused by EMF exposure. Metal is positive, hence if your body is negatively polarized you will rapidly absorb metals into the body. This accounts for the strange feeling that you may experience when you come into contact with metals.
 
I use oral chelation to detox the metals with. It does take more time but it far less expensive than the injections from the doctor. I order it from Health Resources. I have to continue to take it all the time or the metals will accumulate in my body again. During a time that I didn't use it I got ahyperactive thyroid as the metal got into the thyroid gland, as it was explained to me. Nice to be thin and eat all you want but I have to look aftermy health and take the chelation to keep the metal from killing me, as I say 20 pounds later!
 
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences with us.
 
Cheryl 
--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 1:23 PM

hi Cheryl,
 
re how i know where ore deposits are.... well, i react then i investigate.  lol  i live in an area where there used to be many furnaces for forging various metals.  that is how i came to suspect i was reacting to ore deposits.  i noticed i reacted very often near antique furnaces.  you might be able to get a map for this from your state govt or agricultural extention.  maybe there is a reason you are agorophobic!  es could also contribute i am sure!  i have reacted in areas of ore deposits since i was a child.  i came over time to suspect magnetic frequencies there as being involved.  i also had problems wearing watches from the time i was a child.  and i seem to attract into my body electrical frequencies- -like i am a capacitor.
 
did many things to decrease my symptoms and suspect various things are involved....  i have been investigating channelopathy diseases and saw a suspected channelopathy involved metal "hoarding", for lack of a better term.  i wanted to share the site here, but have since misplaced it, had my accident and surgery, etc, etc.... as result, i have not got around to going there again yet.  if/when i find this info again, i will post it here.  i have long suspected there is a genetic component which causes toxic metals to accummulate in some people.  the site i read said the lymphatic system function is usually affected due to this and that is another thingwhich i see as rife in this forum--not only are metals a problem, but all sorts of toxic issues are going on. 
 
most of what i have done involves detoxing, utilizing nutrients to strenghthen and heal various areas--esp liver, and treating known deficiencies. ...  i also wrote a long post recently, if you can look back several weeks (it was sent to Christine in the subject line), noting all the things i could think of which have helped me.  this was for es as a whole, but i consider the metal problem part of my es.  i recently mentioned grounding and see that as helpful.  i recently bought a Quantum Pro--which i think the company calls an energy or electrical "conditio ner", which i just mentioned to Bill here, that has helped. 
 
metal poisoning?  not sure what constitutes metal poisoning.  i did have rashes to some metals, not anything more than that and es type symptoms, tho.  i got very ill after amalgam filling removal, to the point i could barely function.  i had some chelation.  for me personally, i find ithelped right away, but did not last.  i wouldn't hesitate going there again tho if i knew the doc knew what he was doing and was using the best possible procedure.  hence the info i sent re the french book, recently.  my understanding is that some beneficial metals are not able to be utilizedby the body due to toxic levels of harmful metals.  to that end, i have tried after detoxing/chelation to add particular minerals back, which has had some success.  i certainly have not been as bad in this regard, tho, as some here, like Loni, who pretty much reacts badly even to beneficialmetals.
 
hope this helps,
di

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 1:53 PM

Hi Di,
 
How do you know where the iron ore and metal deposits in the ground are located?
I don't travel - am somewhat agoraphobic, but am able to drive around the local area. Very interesting that that could also be effecting me.
 
What did you do to decrease the effect of the metal? Sorry if you posted italready - I am behind in reading all the posts. Did you also get metal poisoning?
 
Thanks for your response.
 
Cheryl

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 9:32 AM

hi Cheryl,
 
didn't see your posts till after i wrote mine to Jennie.  we have so muchin common, tho i now do not react to metals usually.  do you 2 also react badly to iron ore and metal deposits in the ground?  that can make me still very ill when i am travelling.
 
di

--- On Sat, 6/6/09, Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Cheryl Griffing <cheryl_griffing@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 1:39 AM

Hi again Jennie,
 
Sorry about the duplicate emails. Suddenly they got sent off as I was typing.
 
Anyway, when I switched to plastic utensils the rashes disappeared. So I knew for sure I had an allergy to metal. Back then I had no clue it had to dowith EMF although I was living 30 yards from a power tower and had been for some time. My research much later clued me into the obvious that I didn'twant to face - that in order to get well I had to move.
 
It was suggested to me to get magnetic insoles as I had symptoms of  a "negative polarity". They helped to reduce the sensation I had when touching metal. I had developed metal poisoning as I was absorbing metal that I touched so rapidly into my system. Anyway, oral chelation takes care of that. Istill take it daily.
 
I do eat microwaved food but I have very poor taste buds so I can't taste the bad taste you described. Interesting. ..
 
So much more I could tell you but I want to keep this short. Hope this helps. If you want more deatails/info just ask me. 
 
Cheryl
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net> wrote:

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@ameritech. net>
Subject: [eSens] Metal Objects
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM

Greetings,

I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with.

I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with.

I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive.

Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms?

Thanks,

jw

____________ _________ _________ __
From: "paulpjc@aol. com" <paulpjc@aol. com>
To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF?

In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time,
ad-in@ameritech. net writes:

We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could
I locate microwave reflective material?

As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain.
Electromagnetic energy seems to "attack my weak spots" and make me ache - injuries and
such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my
mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically

Paul uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the
aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any
cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation issuch
a bad deal for us all !

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