Introduction

Just a note to introduce myself. I am a retired Professor of
Electrical Engineering, Kansas State University. I have had food and
chemical sensitivities since I was 7 years old (I am 68 now). I
developed an interest in electromagnetic sensitivity perhaps 15-20
years ago and did some reading. Given my other sensitivities, it
seemed prudent to avoid EM fields when I could. I got rid of the
clock radio located next to my head while sleeping. I bought a pre-
paid cell phone that is used only on vacations or other times when I
just must be in contact. It is turned on only a few hours per year. I
drive bottom-of-the-line cars, crank up windows, no keyless entry,
etc. I use conventional wired landline telephones. There is no
wireless in the house. I took early retirement at age 55, leaving a
modern engineering building with lots of lights and computers, and
spending my days on a 20 acre site about 10 miles from town, where no
neighbors house is visible from any place on the 20 acres. My overall
health was declining until retirement, but has been pretty stable
since. I suspect that is mostly due to the fresh air, exercise, and
lower stress levels, but a lower EMF load did not hurt. Anyhow, my ES
is quite mild compared to most people on this list. I recently had a
consulting job that required me to be in the electrical room of my
old engineering building (think hot, noisy, and big wires). The
magnetic fields where I was standing were in the range of 50 to 100
mG, with regions in the aisles where I was walking that were above
200 mG. I was there for a period of 2-4 hours on two different days.
Both times I felt really ill for the next 12-18 hours. I think I have
fully recovered, but will try to avoid doing that sort of challenge
again.

It has been most interesting reading the posts the last few weeks. I
also read the first 2500 posts in the files, and the book from
Sweden, Black on White. I have learned a lot, and consider myself
fortunate to have only a mild case of ES.

Gary

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It has been most interesting reading the posts the last few weeks. I
also read the first 2500 posts in the files, and the book from
Sweden, Black on White. I have learned a lot, and consider myself
fortunate to have only a mild case of ES.

Gary





PAUL UK WRITES -

Good sensible feedback/advice many thanks, your stable/rational approach to
ES here is refreshing. Since you have an appetite for the information may I
sugesst that you check out the English charity website for ES
_www.electrosensitivity.org.uk_ (http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk) . (If you have not
done so already).

Kind regards

Paul UK - BSc Hons Building Surveying.






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Wecome to the group. Is there anyway a poor person can protect themselves from this em pollution at home without a big outlay of cash which is non existant? Avoidance is the only thing I can afford in regard to the protections I find on the website group.
I have not been able to go to the Environmental Health Center of Dr. Rae inDallas due to the income limitation I face daily. Is there any written work I can access online anyone?
Peg
 
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Just a note to introduce myself. I am a retired Professor of
Electrical Engineering, Kansas State University. I have had food and
chemical sensitivities since I was 7 years old (I am 68 now). I
developed an interest in electromagnetic sensitivity perhaps 15-20
years ago and did some reading. Given my other sensitivities, it
seemed prudent to avoid EM fields when I could. I got rid of the
clock radio located next to my head while sleeping. I bought a pre-
paid cell phone that is used only on vacations or other times when I
just must be in contact. It is turned on only a few hours per year. I
drive bottom-of-the-line cars, crank up windows, no keyless entry,
etc. I use conventional wired landline telephones. There is no
wireless in the house. I took early retirement at age 55, leaving a
modern engineering building with lots of lights and computers, and
spending my days on a 20 acre site about 10 miles from town, where no
neighbors house is visible from any place on the 20 acres. My overall
health was declining until retirement, but has been pretty stable
since. I suspect that is mostly due to the fresh air, exercise, and
lower stress levels, but a lower EMF load did not hurt. Anyhow, my ES
is quite mild compared to most people on this list. I recently had a
consulting job that required me to be in the electrical room of my
old engineering building (think hot, noisy, and big wires). The
magnetic fields where I was standing were in the range of 50 to 100
mG, with regions in the aisles where I was walking that were above
200 mG. I was there for a period of 2-4 hours on two different days.
Both times I felt really ill for the next 12-18 hours. I think I have
fully recovered, but will try to avoid doing that sort of challenge
again.

It has been most interesting reading the posts the last few weeks. I
also read the first 2500 posts in the files, and the book from
Sweden, Black on White. I have learned a lot, and consider myself
fortunate to have only a mild case of ES.

Gary


 
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> Wecome to the group. Is there anyway a poor person can protect
> themselves from this em pollution at home without a big outlay of cash
> which is non existant? Avoidance is the only thing I can afford in
> regard to the protections I find on the website group.

Yes, avoidance is cheap. Also, I suppose that altering your diet
in some way could be cheap, since everyone has to spend money on
food anyways.

If you want some specific suggestions, it might be helpful if you
could remind us what exactly you are reacting to, what sorts of
things you have tried in the past that have worked (or not),
and how sensitive you are?

Marc

Peg: Reading posts on this forum will give you many ideas. Most of us
try many different avoidance strategies before finding the ones that
help. I would start exploring with the following:
1. Unplug the TV from its receptacle for a couple of days and see if
you feel better. My own ES is mild, but I still feel brain-dead after
about an hour in front of the TV. (Maybe it is the content of the
programming).
2. Likewise the computer for the next couple of days.
3. Likewise the microwave for the couple of days after that.
4. Move any plug-in-the-wall equipment as far from your bed as
possible (clocks, radios, etc.)

Gary

--- In [hidden email], pegpare9@... wrote:
>
> Wecome to the group. Is there anyway a poor person can protect
themselves from this em pollution at home without a big outlay of
cash which is non existant? Avoidance is the only thing I can afford
in regard to the protections I find on the website group.
> I have not been able to go to the Environmental Health Center of
Dr. Rae in Dallas due to the income limitation I face daily. Is there
any written work I can access online anyone? and
> chemical sensitivities since I was 7 years old (I am 68 now). I
> developed an interest in electromagnetic sensitivity perhaps 15-20
> years ago and did some reading. Given my other sensitivities, it
> seemed prudent to avoid EM fields when I could. I got rid of the
> clock radio located next to my head while sleeping. I bought a pre-
> paid cell phone that is used only on vacations or other times when
I
> just must be in contact. It is turned on only a few hours per year.
I
> drive bottom-of-the-line cars, crank up windows, no keyless entry,
> etc. I use conventional wired landline telephones. There is no
> wireless in the house. I took early retirement at age 55, leaving a
> modern engineering building with lots of lights and computers, and
> spending my days on a 20 acre site about 10 miles from town, where
no
> neighbors house is visible from any place on the 20 acres. My
overall
> health was declining until retirement, but has been pretty stable
> since. I suspect that is mostly due to the fresh air, exercise, and
> lower stress levels, but a lower EMF load did not hurt. Anyhow, my
ES
> is quite mild compared to most people on this list. I recently had
a
> consulting job that required me to be in the electrical room of my
> old engineering building (think hot, noisy, and big wires). The
> magnetic fields where I was standing were in the range of 50 to 100
> mG, with regions in the aisles where I was walking that were above
> 200 mG. I was there for a period of 2-4 hours on two different
days.
> Both times I felt really ill for the next 12-18 hours. I think I
have
> fully recovered, but will try to avoid doing that sort of challenge
> again.
>
> It has been most interesting reading the posts the last few weeks.
I
> also read the first 2500 posts in the files, and the book from
> Sweden, Black on White. I have learned a lot, and consider myself
> fortunate to have only a mild case of ES.
>
> Gary
>
>
>  
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In a message dated 4/13/2007 6:11:34 PM GMT Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:

Wecome to the group. Is there anyway a poor person can protect
> themselves from this em pollution at home without a big outlay of cash
> which is non existant? Avoidance is the only thing I can afford in
> regard to the protections I find on the website group.

Yes, avoidance is cheap. Also, I suppose that altering your diet
in some way could be cheap, since everyone has to spend


PAUL UK REPLIES -

Tin foil is good for blocking digital cordless phones, and mobile radiation
at a distance say line the back of a roller blind, you could also try
survival blankets. It does not cost anything to switch off your elec or even
certain curcuits such as lighting. Have a look at Powerwatch.org and
Electrosensitivity.org.uk






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Welcome to Peg:

Starting with affordable, I found major relief in putting a cheap-o
foil camping blanket under my mattress. (I do already sleep in a
metal-free bed I should add.) I also want to explain that my own
electro-sensitivity is not necessarily minor, but let's say
subliminal. I believe it underlies pretty much all my own chronic
problems, making it more difficult to experience normal healing from
any condition. Our entire electro-chemistry is denatured, whether at
the onset of new symptoms or exacerbating ongoing problems, making the
curable intractable.

The statistical inference I'd draw from this is that:
Those who can trace their symptoms to some particular window or
episode of e-m exposure are only the tip of the iceberg of humanity
and all life.

(In my opinion, we're all "poor people" when it comes to "health care"
which, also in my opinion, boils down to something like "learning how
to live." The screws certainly are tighter in these times. I
remember hearing of Dr. Rae's work in the 80s when I was active in our
local "environmental health" support group. His work has always
struck me as "medicine for the rich." I feel the same about most good
competent non-toxic naturapathic medicine. It's the
professionalization of "health care" itself which is a problem. The
real care is moving to the grassroots, to self-care and education. A
lot of what we learn here from each other should be commonly taught in
elementary schools. Forgive me, I rant when I'm dreaming.)

With best wishes,
mgw

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Thank you all for your input. Peg
 
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Subject: [eSens] Re: Introduction


Welcome to Peg:

Starting with affordable, I found major relief in putting a cheap-o
foil camping blanket under my mattress. (I do already sleep in a
metal-free bed I should add.) I also want to explain that my own
electro-sensitivity is not necessarily minor, but let's say
subliminal. I believe it underlies pretty much all my own chronic
problems, making it more difficult to experience normal healing from
any condition. Our entire electro-chemistry is denatured, whether at
the onset of new symptoms or exacerbating ongoing problems, making the
curable intractable.

The statistical inference I'd draw from this is that:
Those who can trace their symptoms to some particular window or
episode of e-m exposure are only the tip of the iceberg of humanity
and all life.

(In my opinion, we're all "poor people" when it comes to "health care"
which, also in my opinion, boils down to something like "learning how
to live." The screws certainly are tighter in these times. I
remember hearing of Dr. Rae's work in the 80s when I was active in our
local "environmental health" support group. His work has always
struck me as "medicine for the rich." I feel the same about most good
competent non-toxic naturapathic medicine. It's the
professionalization of "health care" itself which is a problem. The
real care is moving to the grassroots, to self-care and education. A
lot of what we learn here from each other should be commonly taught in
elementary schools. Forgive me, I rant when I'm dreaming.)

With best wishes,
mgw

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> Is there anyway a poor person can protect themselves from this em
> pollution at home without a big outlay of cash which is non existant?
> Avoidance is the only thing I can afford in regard to the protections
> I find on the website group.
> I have not been able to go to the Environmental Health Center of Dr.
> Rae in Dallas due to the income limitation I face daily. Is there any
> written work I can access online anyone?
> Peg


The basic starting point for us was to turn off all circuits at the
breaker box that we could live without. Find out what the least
electricity you can live with. Turn on/off breakers as needed. You'll
save money on your electricity bill! That will reduce both your electric
field and magnetic field exposure. You can also unplug appliances and
that will reduce your RF exposure at the appliance. Avoidance is the
best thing. Working with your nutrition is also very helpful.



WEB SITES:



www.safewireless.org <http://www.safewireless.org/>:

www.health-concerns.org <http://www.health-concerns.org/>:

www.mast-victims.org <http://www.mast-victims.org/>:

www.cprnews.com <http://www.cprnews.com/>:

www.emr.co.nz <http://www.emr.co.nz/>:

www.energyfields.org/ <http://www.energyfields.org/>

www.emfacts.com <http://www.emfacts.com/>

www.emfbioeffects.org <http://www.emfbioeffects.org/>

www.microwavenews.com <http://www.microwavenews.com/>

www.powerwatch.org.uk/ <http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/>

www.wave-guide.org/ <http://www.wave-guide.org/>

www.neilcherry.com/ <http://www.neilcherry.com/>









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writes:

written work I can access online anyone?
> Peg




PAUL UK REPLIES -
Peg try _www.electrosensitivity.org.uk_
(http://www.electrosensitivity.org.uk) a british charity for the ES sufferer
an excellent scource of info for the ES.






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i agree completely with what you say, i have spent thousands of £ on
seeing ppl and to be honest i have learnt more from
ppl on here and others on forums.
docs who work in the alternative sector take the piss in my experience.
pete
On 14 Apr 2007, at 15:54, mgwest wrote:

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