Hi,
I've been experimenting with putting off my digital internet/phone/tv modem... I think in my entire house I feel much better when the modem is entirely OFF. Even although I have no Wifi system or anything wireless here... I have the exact same feeling of improvement at another house (with a different system for internet/phone/tv). Svetaswan has the same experience, she feels better when it's completely OFF not just when the Wifi is put off (via the browser-link). Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet... Actually I've also noticed it's a bit better when I'm in front of my pc and my pc is NOT linked to the internet. My laptop also emits more dirty electricity when it is linked to the internet (I can measure this)... It's a fact there is dirty electricity on these setup boxes for internet/phone/tv... It also seems it's best NOT to watch High Definition tv (HDTV), if you want to avoid at least some of the mind control signals emitted by your tv (read below), Oh and on Charles' site: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html there are many emf-sources on mp3, listening to it is probably a good test to check what you're most intolerant to... I remember not feeling a difference when listening to the sounds, only the HAARP-sounds I could not stand one little bit and causing me the same ES-symptoms I have in real life... Coincidence? If you think that the possibility of mind control, HAARP, etc. is way too far out, well I also used to believe what media had to say (or didn't disclose) about 9/11, chemtrails, Obama, fluoride, Fukushima, the economy etc. I hope it's getting obvious for most we can NOT believe the popular media one little bit! Watch the sky, often the clouds look sooooooo awkward and unnatural, not to mention the chemtrails of course... gr, Stephen. 'Sound of Silence' tech is also being transmitted through HDTV sets. The mind control possibilities of HDTV are revealed in US patent from 2002 titled 'Nervous System Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitors'. It reads: 'Many computer monitors and HD TV screens, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or DIGITAL TV set.' ... It is important to recognize that 'sound of silence' mind control is a global attack. It is being used in all Western countries and Eastern European countries (and possibly others), most likely put into action through the secret services that work directly for the Illuminati. ... Chemtrails sow the sky with metallic particles that conduct HAARP frequencies (and possibly other wave emitters such as GWEN towers), creating SSSS pulses that numb us with sensations of uneasiness, depression and foreboding. http://www.henrymakow.com/chemtrails_and_other_mind_cont.html if there are 200 million "regular" televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV × 200,000,000 = /$8 billion/. Why is the government so anxious to spend *8 billion dollars* on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420926/pg1 |
Stephen, Stephen, Stephen...BIG Brother is watching!!! I learned about HAARP around 2001-02. They are fully operating now. Around that time I found that I was becoming more & more sensitive. They don't seem to care what all of this manipulation is doing to the earth's magnetic field.
Also, I don't know if you're aware of Gary Null. He's awesome, but nuts. He had a scientist on his show talking about the anomalies of 9/11 and then they mentioned how Nicola Tesla was on the verge of a whole new physical science-- hence why he may have been left out of our history books. Betcha the government got all of his "new age" secrets-- Hell, we'll never know. Peace. You can check out Gary Null @ www.garynull.com or the show on www.progressiveradionetwork.com. --- On Sat, 7/16/11, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? HAARP, mind control etc. To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 5:41 PM Hi, I've been experimenting with putting off my digital internet/phone/tv modem... I think in my entire house I feel much better when the modem is entirely OFF. Even although I have no Wifi system or anything wireless here... I have the exact same feeling of improvement at another house (with a different system for internet/phone/tv). Svetaswan has the same experience, she feels better when it's completely OFF not just when the Wifi is put off (via the browser-link). Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet... Actually I've also noticed it's a bit better when I'm in front of my pc and my pc is NOT linked to the internet. My laptop also emits more dirty electricity when it is linked to the internet (I can measure this)... It's a fact there is dirty electricity on these setup boxes for internet/phone/tv... It also seems it's best NOT to watch High Definition tv (HDTV), if you want to avoid at least some of the mind control signals emitted by your tv (read below), Oh and on Charles' site: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html there are many emf-sources on mp3, listening to it is probably a good test to check what you're most intolerant to... I remember not feeling a difference when listening to the sounds, only the HAARP-sounds I could not stand one little bit and causing me the same ES-symptoms I have in real life... Coincidence? If you think that the possibility of mind control, HAARP, etc. is way too far out, well I also used to believe what media had to say (or didn't disclose) about 9/11, chemtrails, Obama, fluoride, Fukushima, the economy etc. I hope it's getting obvious for most we can NOT believe the popular media one little bit! Watch the sky, often the clouds look sooooooo awkward and unnatural, not to mention the chemtrails of course... gr, Stephen. 'Sound of Silence' tech is also being transmitted through HDTV sets. The mind control possibilities of HDTV are revealed in US patent from 2002 titled 'Nervous System Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitors'. It reads: 'Many computer monitors and HD TV screens, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or DIGITAL TV set.' ... It is important to recognize that 'sound of silence' mind control is a global attack. It is being used in all Western countries and Eastern European countries (and possibly others), most likely put into action through the secret services that work directly for the Illuminati. ... Chemtrails sow the sky with metallic particles that conduct HAARP frequencies (and possibly other wave emitters such as GWEN towers), creating SSSS pulses that numb us with sensations of uneasiness, depression and foreboding. http://www.henrymakow.com/chemtrails_and_other_mind_cont.html if there are 200 million "regular" televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV × 200,000,000 = /$8 billion/. Why is the government so anxious to spend *8 billion dollars* on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420926/pg1 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Gary Null thinks CO2 causes global warming, well CO2 causing climate change is one big hoax, read Svensmark or any other scientist that looks beyond one century of climate change,
The goal for the elite is controlling us even more, so they can easily implement one world government and lowering population, They do this by, well a lot, look around!: -controlling every important politician, every president... -CO2 lie: so we would more easily admit the necessity for one world government for taxes on CO2 etc. (first they cause one polluted world and now they're suggesting the sollution) (United Nations, North American Union, EU,...) -blaming capitalism, so we'll get so sick of capitalism that we'll start to want communism (the problem is fascism/corporatism, the economy and especially the bankers that control everything) -communism, socialism,... (by the way I'm not against the ideology of socialism and communism, but with socialism/communism there's way too much power to the government and centalized power is always abused) -New Age and 60's stuff, we're all united etc. with one purpose: so we'll give up on religions (secularization: check a one dollar bill: "novus ordo seclorum" or "Secular New World Order") -Fukushima, wars, Fluoride, chemtrails, HAARP, electrosmog, implanted chips, not allowing cancer to be cured, tv/music full of bad vibes, etc.: keeping us lame, stupid, calm and lowering human population -destroying all values, such as ethics and family values (by introducing porn, promoting playboy lifestyle everywhere) By the way, imo this post is definitely not off topic, because the entire system, us people being controlled by the elite/Illuminati and our health affected is the main reason why there are electrosmog-problems in the first place... Imo what the elite does not want is that we believe in: -freedom (as in the "Bill of Rights"!) -God -human and ethical values If we claim our freedom back they can't control us... www.rense.com is a good site with lots of info gr, Stephen. --- In [hidden email], pamela clemonts <adiaha22@...> wrote: > > Stephen, Stephen, Stephen...BIG Brother is watching!!! I learned about HAARP around 2001-02. They are fully operating now. Around that time I found that I was becoming more & more sensitive. They don't seem to care what all of this manipulation is doing to the earth's magnetic field. >  > Also, I don't know if you're aware of Gary Null. He's awesome, but nuts. He had a scientist on his show talking about the anomalies of 9/11 and then they mentioned how Nicola Tesla was on the verge of a whole new physical science-- hence why he may have been left out of our history books. Betcha the government got all of his "new age" secrets-- Hell, we'll never know. Peace. >  > You can check out Gary Null @ www.garynull.com or the show on www.progressiveradionetwork.com. > > > --- On Sat, 7/16/11, stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote: > > > From: stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> > Subject: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? HAARP, mind control etc. > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 5:41 PM > > >  > > > > Hi, > > I've been experimenting with putting off my digital internet/phone/tv modem... > > I think in my entire house I feel much better when the modem is entirely OFF. Even although I have no Wifi system or anything wireless here... > > I have the exact same feeling of improvement at another house (with a different system for internet/phone/tv). > > Svetaswan has the same experience, she feels better when it's completely OFF not just when the Wifi is put off (via the browser-link). > > Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet... > > Actually I've also noticed it's a bit better when I'm in front of my pc and my pc is NOT linked to the internet. My laptop also emits more dirty electricity when it is linked to the internet (I can measure this)... > > It's a fact there is dirty electricity on these setup boxes for internet/phone/tv... > > It also seems it's best NOT to watch High Definition tv (HDTV), if you want to avoid at least some of the mind control signals emitted by your tv (read below), > > Oh and on Charles' site: > http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html > there are many emf-sources on mp3, listening to it is probably a good test to check what you're most intolerant to... I remember not feeling a difference when listening to the sounds, only the HAARP-sounds I could not stand one little bit and causing me the same ES-symptoms I have in real life... Coincidence? > > If you think that the possibility of mind control, HAARP, etc. is way too far out, well I also used to believe what media had to say (or didn't disclose) about 9/11, chemtrails, Obama, fluoride, Fukushima, the economy etc. > > I hope it's getting obvious for most we can NOT believe the popular media one little bit! > > Watch the sky, often the clouds look sooooooo awkward and unnatural, not to mention the chemtrails of course... > > gr, > Stephen. > > 'Sound of Silence' tech is also being transmitted through HDTV sets. The mind control possibilities of HDTV are revealed in US patent from 2002 titled 'Nervous System Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitors'. It reads: > > 'Many computer monitors and HD TV screens, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or DIGITAL TV set.' > ... > It is important to recognize that 'sound of silence' mind control is a global attack. It is being used in all Western countries and Eastern European countries (and possibly others), most likely put into action through the secret services that work directly for the Illuminati. > ... > Chemtrails sow the sky with metallic particles that conduct HAARP frequencies (and possibly other wave emitters such as GWEN towers), creating SSSS pulses that numb us with sensations of uneasiness, depression and foreboding. > > http://www.henrymakow.com/chemtrails_and_other_mind_cont.html > > if there are 200 million "regular" televisions in > America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per > TV à 200,000,000 = /$8 billion/. Why is the government so anxious to > spend *8 billion dollars* on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV > picture? > > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420926/pg1 > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Stephen,
I agree with you. I have given 9/11 presentations as well as a presentation at the State Museum in SC on "Ancient Astronauts." From this, I have learned that if you want the most people to be joined together in a movement, you have to have the least amount of agreed upon points. If we are to be united against wireless radiation, everyone does not have to agree upon 9/11, CO2, etc. I could get most everyone to understand that explosives were used on 9/11 and that the "official" conspiracy story was wrong, but 95% of us could not agree on who the real perps were (international bankers, Israel, CIA, England, Illuminati, Cheney/Haliburton, all of the above...) So in order to solidify and unify, I recommend we not busy ourselves with bringing everyone up to speed that comes on the list with 10 years of learning of the many paths that lead us back to the head of Medusa, but just 1 year of learning about one topic, cell phones, towers, smart meters, Wi-Fi, etc. and how bad that is for everyone. I think we will get more done, have more help, etc. I am glad that you know about the larger picture. You are invaluable to me. Keep on. What is your take on Elenin? (off line, direct communication please) my 2 cents, Andrew On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:49 AM, stephen_vandevijvere wrote: Gary Null thinks CO2 causes global warming, well CO2 causing climate change is one big hoax, read Svensmark or any other scientist that looks beyond one century of climate change, The goal for the elite is controlling us even more, so they can easily implement one world government and lowering population, They do this by, well a lot, look around!: -controlling every important politician, every president... -CO2 lie: so we would more easily admit the necessity for one world government for taxes on CO2 etc. (first they cause one polluted world and now they're suggesting the sollution) (United Nations, North American Union, EU,...) -blaming capitalism, so we'll get so sick of capitalism that we'll start to want communism (the problem is fascism/corporatism, the economy and especially the bankers that control everything) -communism, socialism,... (by the way I'm not against the ideology of socialism and communism, but with socialism/communism there's way too much power to the government and centalized power is always abused) -New Age and 60's stuff, we're all united etc. with one purpose: so we'll give up on religions (secularization: check a one dollar bill: "novus ordo seclorum" or "Secular New World Order") -Fukushima, wars, Fluoride, chemtrails, HAARP, electrosmog, implanted chips, not allowing cancer to be cured, tv/music full of bad vibes, etc.: keeping us lame, stupid, calm and lowering human population -destroying all values, such as ethics and family values (by introducing porn, promoting playboy lifestyle everywhere) By the way, imo this post is definitely not off topic, because the entire system, us people being controlled by the elite/Illuminati and our health affected is the main reason why there are electrosmog-problems in the first place... Imo what the elite does not want is that we believe in: -freedom (as in the "Bill of Rights"!) -God -human and ethical values If we claim our freedom back they can't control us... www.rense.com is a good site with lots of info gr, Stephen. Andrew McAfee |
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Stephen,
I agree with you. I have given 9/11 presentations as well as a presentation at the State Museum in SC on "Ancient Astronauts." From this, I have learned that if you want the most people to be joined together in a movement, you have to have the least amount of agreed upon points. If we are to be united against wireless radiation, everyone does not have to agree upon 9/11, CO2, etc. I could get most everyone to understand that explosives were used on 9/11 and that the "official" conspiracy story was wrong, but 95% of us could not agree on who the real perps were (international bankers, Israel, CIA, England, Illuminati, Cheney/Haliburton, all of the above...) So in order to solidify and unify, I recommend we not busy ourselves with bringing everyone up to speed that comes on the list with 10 years of learning of the many paths that lead us back to the head of Medusa, but just 1 year of learning about one topic, cell phones, towers, smart meters, Wi-Fi, etc. and how bad that is for everyone. I think we will get more done, have more help, etc. I am glad that you know about the larger picture. You are invaluable to me. Keep on. What is your take on Elenin? (off line, direct communication please) my 2 cents, Andrew On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:49 AM, stephen_vandevijvere wrote: Gary Null thinks CO2 causes global warming, well CO2 causing climate change is one big hoax, read Svensmark or any other scientist that looks beyond one century of climate change, The goal for the elite is controlling us even more, so they can easily implement one world government and lowering population, They do this by, well a lot, look around!: -controlling every important politician, every president... -CO2 lie: so we would more easily admit the necessity for one world government for taxes on CO2 etc. (first they cause one polluted world and now they're suggesting the sollution) (United Nations, North American Union, EU,...) -blaming capitalism, so we'll get so sick of capitalism that we'll start to want communism (the problem is fascism/corporatism, the economy and especially the bankers that control everything) -communism, socialism,... (by the way I'm not against the ideology of socialism and communism, but with socialism/communism there's way too much power to the government and centalized power is always abused) -New Age and 60's stuff, we're all united etc. with one purpose: so we'll give up on religions (secularization: check a one dollar bill: "novus ordo seclorum" or "Secular New World Order") -Fukushima, wars, Fluoride, chemtrails, HAARP, electrosmog, implanted chips, not allowing cancer to be cured, tv/music full of bad vibes, etc.: keeping us lame, stupid, calm and lowering human population -destroying all values, such as ethics and family values (by introducing porn, promoting playboy lifestyle everywhere) By the way, imo this post is definitely not off topic, because the entire system, us people being controlled by the elite/Illuminati and our health affected is the main reason why there are electrosmog-problems in the first place... Imo what the elite does not want is that we believe in: -freedom (as in the "Bill of Rights"!) -God -human and ethical values If we claim our freedom back they can't control us... www.rense.com is a good site with lots of info gr, Stephen. |
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Stephen,
I agree with you. I have given 9/11 presentations as well as a presentation at the State Museum in SC on "Ancient Astronauts." From this, I have learned that if you want the most people to be joined together in a movement, you have to have the least amount of agreed upon points. If we are to be united against wireless radiation, everyone does not have to agree upon 9/11, CO2, etc. I could get most everyone to understand that explosives were used on 9/11 and that the "official" conspiracy story was wrong, but 95% of us could not agree on who the real perps were (international bankers, Israel, CIA, England, Illuminati, Cheney/Haliburton, all of the above...) So in order to solidify and unify, I recommend we not busy ourselves with bringing everyone up to speed that comes on the list with 10 years of learning of the many paths that lead us back to the head of Medusa, but just 1 year of learning about one topic, cell phones, towers, smart meters, Wi-Fi, etc. and how bad that is for everyone. I think we will get more done, have more help, etc. I am glad that you know about the larger picture. You are invaluable to me. Keep on. What is your take on Elenin? (off line, direct communication please) my 2 cents, Andrew On Jul 17, 2011, at 6:49 AM, stephen_vandevijvere wrote: Gary Null thinks CO2 causes global warming, well CO2 causing climate change is one big hoax, read Svensmark or any other scientist that looks beyond one century of climate change, The goal for the elite is controlling us even more, so they can easily implement one world government and lowering population, They do this by, well a lot, look around!: -controlling every important politician, every president... -CO2 lie: so we would more easily admit the necessity for one world government for taxes on CO2 etc. (first they cause one polluted world and now they're suggesting the sollution) (United Nations, North American Union, EU,...) -blaming capitalism, so we'll get so sick of capitalism that we'll start to want communism (the problem is fascism/corporatism, the economy and especially the bankers that control everything) -communism, socialism,... (by the way I'm not against the ideology of socialism and communism, but with socialism/communism there's way too much power to the government and centalized power is always abused) -New Age and 60's stuff, we're all united etc. with one purpose: so we'll give up on religions (secularization: check a one dollar bill: "novus ordo seclorum" or "Secular New World Order") -Fukushima, wars, Fluoride, chemtrails, HAARP, electrosmog, implanted chips, not allowing cancer to be cured, tv/music full of bad vibes, etc.: keeping us lame, stupid, calm and lowering human population -destroying all values, such as ethics and family values (by introducing porn, promoting playboy lifestyle everywhere) By the way, imo this post is definitely not off topic, because the entire system, us people being controlled by the elite/Illuminati and our health affected is the main reason why there are electrosmog-problems in the first place... Imo what the elite does not want is that we believe in: -freedom (as in the "Bill of Rights"!) -God -human and ethical values If we claim our freedom back they can't control us... www.rense.com is a good site with lots of info gr, Stephen. |
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Hey, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one concerned @ chemtrails, etc. My Lyme disease did NOT become chronic neurologic inflammation until 1995, when they started spraying chemtrails (see "Open Skies Treaty" & the tiny clause about being allowed to do "research" to help w/ "climate change"). Many healthcare professionals have been online warning people @ this: the 2 gulf wars were meant as testing grounds for bio-weapons that infiltrate the body & then are "activated" by EMFs. The chemtrails contain nanoparticles of barium & aluminum, both toxic (see "What In The World Are They Spraying?") AND tiny MYCOTOXINS of the most toxic species of black mold, which have essentially destroyed my health. 1 nurse told me that the reason the particles are nano-sized is b/c they enter the lungs & harbor there, so that at any moment, a super-flu or some other kind of virulent strain of something, will spread immediately to the lungs & kill you much faster (but equally
painfully). Chemtrails + EMFs + Codex Alimentarius (WTO control of vitamins, herbs & food) = population reduction to 500 million "slaves" meant to service the elite. Some say these "elite" are reptilian, shape-shifting aliens, but I think it's more likely they're just greedy people. Human greed, ugh. I really hope we didn't start out that way, so greedy & competitive. After watching many eps. of "Ancient Aliens," I've begun to wonder whether or not greed and competitiveness were originally part of human nature, or if we were engineered that way at some point, by aliens. Sounds so weird, I know. Don't worry, I only think about this stuff if someone else brings it up. And I'm sane enough to recognize it as a theory, not fact. At the end of the day, it's likely that our biggest challenge is learning to FORGIVE & UNCONDITIONALLY LOVE the people causing these problems, & the rest of humanity allowing it to happen. I do a technique used by a Hawaiian (sp?) psychologist, called Ho'oponopono: repeat to yourself the following 4 statements, preferably in this order: "I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love you." It helps me recognize that I chose this journey somehow, & that I also get to choose where to put my anger (nowhere) and what emotions to "finance" w/ more of my dwindling energy. It's sort of a way of taking theoretical spiritual control of the state of the world & of humanity by suggesting that you, in some way, play (or played) some part in manifesting the problems you're going through, but it's not meant in a judgmental way or meant to say that you alone have to fix everything. It's just a way of subliminally suggesting to your sub-conscious that you, even as just 1 individual, have just as much control over the state of the world as the whole population does. We EHSers (& other chonically ill people) are the ones who need to send out the most positive intentions, as often as we can, b/c in many ways we're already aware of what's going on in terms of the totalitarian control/peace duality, & we can tip the scales in the other direction. In fact, you can accomplish this entirely by yourself. I think it's an illusion that we have to get a certain amt. of people to pray, or to say a certain prayer to get better or initiate healing for someone else. The more you convince yourself that your intentions alone can heal the world, the more that becomes true. Example: Two weeks before the WHO released the report on cell phone radiation, I sent out the strongest intention I've ever sent out. First I repeated, firmly & as joyfully as I could, "The world MUST wake up to the electrosmog issue. Humanity MUST know about this." Then, I pictured myself in outer space, turning a scream into a beautiful sound, emanating from my 3rd eye. This was my "psychic transmission" to the rest of the universe that humanity & Earth are ready to be healed. It was the opposite of a distress signal or of desparation. It was a positive intention, a joyful invitation for healing of our consciousness, our environment etc. Now everyone, regardless of their actions, cannot deny that their cell phone is a cancer risk. Even the major news organizations were acknowledging that holding the phone away from the head is not enough. Anderson Cooper talked w/ a very traditional, allopathic doc., & the doc said: "If it's not near your head, it's right next to your genitals. Keep if off unless you need to use it." Anyway, gotta go. Love & blessings,Elysia --- On Sat, 7/16/11, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? HAARP, mind control etc. To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 5:41 PM Hi, I've been experimenting with putting off my digital internet/phone/tv modem... I think in my entire house I feel much better when the modem is entirely OFF. Even although I have no Wifi system or anything wireless here... I have the exact same feeling of improvement at another house (with a different system for internet/phone/tv). Svetaswan has the same experience, she feels better when it's completely OFF not just when the Wifi is put off (via the browser-link). Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet... Actually I've also noticed it's a bit better when I'm in front of my pc and my pc is NOT linked to the internet. My laptop also emits more dirty electricity when it is linked to the internet (I can measure this)... It's a fact there is dirty electricity on these setup boxes for internet/phone/tv... It also seems it's best NOT to watch High Definition tv (HDTV), if you want to avoid at least some of the mind control signals emitted by your tv (read below), Oh and on Charles' site: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html there are many emf-sources on mp3, listening to it is probably a good test to check what you're most intolerant to... I remember not feeling a difference when listening to the sounds, only the HAARP-sounds I could not stand one little bit and causing me the same ES-symptoms I have in real life... Coincidence? If you think that the possibility of mind control, HAARP, etc. is way too far out, well I also used to believe what media had to say (or didn't disclose) about 9/11, chemtrails, Obama, fluoride, Fukushima, the economy etc. I hope it's getting obvious for most we can NOT believe the popular media one little bit! Watch the sky, often the clouds look sooooooo awkward and unnatural, not to mention the chemtrails of course... gr, Stephen. 'Sound of Silence' tech is also being transmitted through HDTV sets. The mind control possibilities of HDTV are revealed in US patent from 2002 titled 'Nervous System Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitors'. It reads: 'Many computer monitors and HD TV screens, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or DIGITAL TV set.' ... It is important to recognize that 'sound of silence' mind control is a global attack. It is being used in all Western countries and Eastern European countries (and possibly others), most likely put into action through the secret services that work directly for the Illuminati. ... Chemtrails sow the sky with metallic particles that conduct HAARP frequencies (and possibly other wave emitters such as GWEN towers), creating SSSS pulses that numb us with sensations of uneasiness, depression and foreboding. http://www.henrymakow.com/chemtrails_and_other_mind_cont.html if there are 200 million "regular" televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV × 200,000,000 = /$8 billion/. Why is the government so anxious to spend *8 billion dollars* on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420926/pg1 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi, Stephen and All,
Stephen writes: "Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet..." Me: I can *now* stand it quite well and can even sleep with it on (as I have, on a number of occasions, fell asleep late at night writing email, by accident, and woke up 4 hours later flat on the bed. ;) ) But what Stephen has written is very true--it is very helpful to disconnect all of your computer and internet wires when you are finished on your computer. I still do it, tho I don't have to. Why would I want all that garbage contaminating my bedroom (where my laptop is), even if I can tolerate it well? It is just another body stressor my immune system would need to contend with. I am looking to bring healing frequencies into my environment, not garbage. I also unplug my stereo system and tv and vcr, etc, etc, etc when I am done with them and these are not even connected to the outside world in the first place (I have no cable access now--I do not want it)! Unplugging is easy to do, just lean over and pull. It just takes a little initiative to take the time to do it. I tell newbies to do this all the time, but so few try it. I personally keep everything in my house unplugged except a few lights and the refrigerator. Electrics are a luxury which thousands of years of humanity never had in the first place. The least I can do is do the small work of leaning over and unplugging or plugging things in! It is silly, in this day and age, to sit on one's can and complain about frequencies if one is not willing to at least pull a plug in order to remove the offending frequency; and yet this is what I read/see/hear most often when I advise newbies to do this. So sad. :( Sorry if I sound insulting here. I have had a long, frustrating time of keeping quiet about this issue (too lazy to pull a plug) and it has hit the boil over point today. Bear with me; I will get over it. ;) Diane --- On Sat, 7/16/11, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? HAARP, mind control etc. To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 5:41 PM Hi, I've been experimenting with putting off my digital internet/phone/tv modem... I think in my entire house I feel much better when the modem is entirely OFF. Even although I have no Wifi system or anything wireless here... I have the exact same feeling of improvement at another house (with a different system for internet/phone/tv). Svetaswan has the same experience, she feels better when it's completely OFF not just when the Wifi is put off (via the browser-link). Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet... Actually I've also noticed it's a bit better when I'm in front of my pc and my pc is NOT linked to the internet. My laptop also emits more dirty electricity when it is linked to the internet (I can measure this)... It's a fact there is dirty electricity on these setup boxes for internet/phone/tv... It also seems it's best NOT to watch High Definition tv (HDTV), if you want to avoid at least some of the mind control signals emitted by your tv (read below), Oh and on Charles' site: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html there are many emf-sources on mp3, listening to it is probably a good test to check what you're most intolerant to... I remember not feeling a difference when listening to the sounds, only the HAARP-sounds I could not stand one little bit and causing me the same ES-symptoms I have in real life... Coincidence? If you think that the possibility of mind control, HAARP, etc. is way too far out, well I also used to believe what media had to say (or didn't disclose) about 9/11, chemtrails, Obama, fluoride, Fukushima, the economy etc. I hope it's getting obvious for most we can NOT believe the popular media one little bit! Watch the sky, often the clouds look sooooooo awkward and unnatural, not to mention the chemtrails of course... gr, Stephen. 'Sound of Silence' tech is also being transmitted through HDTV sets. The mind control possibilities of HDTV are revealed in US patent from 2002 titled 'Nervous System Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitors'. It reads: 'Many computer monitors and HD TV screens, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or DIGITAL TV set.' ... It is important to recognize that 'sound of silence' mind control is a global attack. It is being used in all Western countries and Eastern European countries (and possibly others), most likely put into action through the secret services that work directly for the Illuminati. ... Chemtrails sow the sky with metallic particles that conduct HAARP frequencies (and possibly other wave emitters such as GWEN towers), creating SSSS pulses that numb us with sensations of uneasiness, depression and foreboding. http://www.henrymakow.com/chemtrails_and_other_mind_cont.html if there are 200 million "regular" televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV × 200,000,000 = /$8 billion/. Why is the government so anxious to spend *8 billion dollars* on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420926/pg1 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Where should this newie start? What are the basics? I'll try anything. I don't know much. I'm an open book. Thanks!!!
Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? Hi, Stephen and All, Stephen writes: "Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet..." Me: I can *now* stand it quite well and can even sleep with it on (as I have, on a number of occasions, fell asleep late at night writing email, by accident, and woke up 4 hours later flat on the bed. ;) ) But what Stephen has written is very true--it is very helpful to disconnect all of your computer and internet wires when you are finished on your computer. I still do it, tho I don't have to. Why would I want all that garbage contaminating my bedroom (where my laptop is), even if I can tolerate it well? It is just another body stressor my immune system would need to contend with. I am looking to bring healing frequencies into my environment, not garbage. I also unplug my stereo system and tv and vcr, etc, etc, etc when I am done with them and these are not even connected to the outside world in the first place (I have no cable access now--I do not want it)! Unplugging is easy to do, just lean over and pull. It just takes a little initiative to take the time to do it. I tell newbies to do this all the time, but so few try it. I personally keep everything in my house unplugged except a few lights and the refrigerator. Electrics are a luxury which thousands of years of humanity never had in the first place. The least I can do is do the small work of leaning over and unplugging or plugging things in! It is silly, in this day and age, to sit on one's can and complain about frequencies if one is not willing to at least pull a plug in order to remove the offending frequency; and yet this is what I read/see/hear most often when I advise newbies to do this. So sad. :( Sorry if I sound insulting here. I have had a long, frustrating time of keeping quiet about this issue (too lazy to pull a plug) and it has hit the boil over point today. Bear with me; I will get over it. ;) Diane --- On Sat, 7/16/11, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? HAARP, mind control etc. To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 5:41 PM Hi, I've been experimenting with putting off my digital internet/phone/tv modem... I think in my entire house I feel much better when the modem is entirely OFF. Even although I have no Wifi system or anything wireless here... I have the exact same feeling of improvement at another house (with a different system for internet/phone/tv). Svetaswan has the same experience, she feels better when it's completely OFF not just when the Wifi is put off (via the browser-link). Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet... Actually I've also noticed it's a bit better when I'm in front of my pc and my pc is NOT linked to the internet. My laptop also emits more dirty electricity when it is linked to the internet (I can measure this)... It's a fact there is dirty electricity on these setup boxes for internet/phone/tv... It also seems it's best NOT to watch High Definition tv (HDTV), if you want to avoid at least some of the mind control signals emitted by your tv (read below), Oh and on Charles' site: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html there are many emf-sources on mp3, listening to it is probably a good test to check what you're most intolerant to... I remember not feeling a difference when listening to the sounds, only the HAARP-sounds I could not stand one little bit and causing me the same ES-symptoms I have in real life... Coincidence? If you think that the possibility of mind control, HAARP, etc. is way too far out, well I also used to believe what media had to say (or didn't disclose) about 9/11, chemtrails, Obama, fluoride, Fukushima, the economy etc. I hope it's getting obvious for most we can NOT believe the popular media one little bit! Watch the sky, often the clouds look sooooooo awkward and unnatural, not to mention the chemtrails of course... gr, Stephen. 'Sound of Silence' tech is also being transmitted through HDTV sets. The mind control possibilities of HDTV are revealed in US patent from 2002 titled 'Nervous System Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitors'. It reads: 'Many computer monitors and HD TV screens, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or DIGITAL TV set.' ... It is important to recognize that 'sound of silence' mind control is a global attack. It is being used in all Western countries and Eastern European countries (and possibly others), most likely put into action through the secret services that work directly for the Illuminati. ... Chemtrails sow the sky with metallic particles that conduct HAARP frequencies (and possibly other wave emitters such as GWEN towers), creating SSSS pulses that numb us with sensations of uneasiness, depression and foreboding. http://www.henrymakow.com/chemtrails_and_other_mind_cont.html if there are 200 million "regular" televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV × 200,000,000 = /$8 billion/. Why is the government so anxious to spend *8 billion dollars* on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420926/pg1 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> Where should this newie start? What are the basics? I'll try anything.
> I don't know much. I'm an open book. Thanks!!! Well, we do have years of discussions that you could search through, depending on what you are specifically interested in. Also, there are some good websites out there, for example, Gillian Joy's "Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity" website. http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/ Otherwise, I guess we need to know more specifically what problems you are trying to overcome? Marc |
I feel ill, tired and my candida symptoms are worse when I am around too much Emf's. I don't really want to overcome this issue just learn how to avoid the sources that are the worse. Is this the wrong group?
Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:29 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: The Basics > Where should this newie start? What are the basics? I'll try anything. > I don't know much. I'm an open book. Thanks!!! Well, we do have years of discussions that you could search through, depending on what you are specifically interested in. Also, there are some good websites out there, for example, Gillian Joy's "Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity" website. http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/ Otherwise, I guess we need to know more specifically what problems you are trying to overcome? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hi, Christin,
I am not sure I know what you mean by "overcoming this issue just to learn how to avoid sources which are worse". Did you mean overcoming candida, or overcoming ES? If you mean either, these are not issues you can avoid, period. Do you also have CFS? CFS is part and parcel of this whole mess, too. We cannot tell you what to do, you have to decide what to do yourself, and somewhat, how to do it. We can guide you as to what to look for. If you are ill and tired, particular things cause ill and tired. Work with what you know. You know you have candida. So work on candida. You *may* not recover fully if you deal with the candida, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't deal with candida. You need to deal with any problems which present themselves. If you don't, you will spiral into worse and worse condition, till you are completely bed-bound. If killing the candida doesn't help, it may mean you have celiac disease or chronic fatigue syndrome, but each of those are treatable. I actually had all 3--candida, celiac disease, and CFS (and more!) I had no choice but to knuckle down and fight. Infact, this is why I often mention celiac disease. It is not a coincidence that I had all 3--celiac disease sets you up for all 3, plus ES and other auto-immune diseases. I will send you a copy of an email I wrote to someone else, who asked similar questions. Good luck; persevere and don't give up, Diane/ evie --- On Sat, 8/6/11, Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: The Basics To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 7:12 PM I feel ill, tired and my candida symptoms are worse when I am around too much Emf's. I don't really want to overcome this issue just learn how to avoid the sources that are the worse. Is this the wrong group? Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:29 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: The Basics > Where should this newie start? What are the basics? I'll try anything. > I don't know much. I'm an open book. Thanks!!! Well, we do have years of discussions that you could search through, depending on what you are specifically interested in. Also, there are some good websites out there, for example, Gillian Joy's "Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity" website. http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/ Otherwise, I guess we need to know more specifically what problems you are trying to overcome? Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi again, Christin,
This is mostly an email I wrote someone else previously. I will send more previously written emails privately, since I don't want this to turn into a "Diane-athon". lol (It already looks as tho it has!) The first thing to do is assess why you are here with us. What caused your ES or, at least, when was the first time you noticed it and what preceded that? Was it after you were tired and ill awhile? Which health problems have you had in the past and which do you have now? Write all this down on paper as a “master list”, because if your memory is a fried as most of ours, that is the only way you will remember it past 2 seconds. ;) What toxic events have you had in your life? Such as being in school during a lice outbreak and the dorms were all sprayed, or having a crop duster spray you while you were out walking….. Chemical toxins and medical drugs—write them all down. Do you have other parasites? Most of us have some kind (or all kinds!) of (generic term) parasites: bacteria, yeasts, viruses, myco-toxins, and actual (ugk!) parasites. [This is likely due to tight junction permeability which allows toxins full access to the body.] All of this info is going to lead you to where to start—we are all different in our experiences and exposures. But really, you have pretty much already decided where to start--candida is as good as any place to start. What Marc sent you today is also a pretty good place to start. Marc wrote: "there does seem to be some common ground throughout the years: -- heavy metal detox -- immune system support (anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-viral) -- anti-oxidants -- pH control -- foods-based vitamins and minerals" --liver support [my addition] I added also, “I want to add to the idea of immune system support.... any disease or chemical toxin build-up which one has can also affect the immune system negatively. For instance, celiac disease, [also thyroid disease and other endocrine problems and many others], antibiotic build-up, herbicides, pesticides.... In other words, any disease you can effectively treat or any chemical compounds you can get out of your body will also go a long way toward helping the immune system.” I would personally go about it like this (this is the email I promised I would share): "Can you tolerate your computer? If not, find ways to make it the most tolerable. This is your life line to help. Ask at the forum for suggestions. What can you do to your immediate atmosphere to help change it? This is where you live. Pull plugs, learn what you react to, find shielding helps, find fixes for your electrics if you need them, try going without your power—turn off electric at your circuit breaker; when you can, get a bed without metal in it and a mattress without springs. Get out of houses which are too close to huge towers or other detrimental surroundings or have mold or other toxic issues. If you have wireless anything in your house, get rid of it or at least ban it to the garage. Write down all ideas you come across at the emf sensitivity forums and sites which others have set up, so you can review them from time to time. Most of our brains are fried; we forget. If I could remember it all right now, I could write a 3 page paper on just the easy, very cost effective ways to approach this step. There are thousands of ideas out there and they all help at least a little. What can you do to help your body? Heavy metal detox—is it a problem or not? Do you have amalgams in your mouth? If you do, get them out, if possible; and find a good doc to do it who will not injure you further doing it. Is your liver up to the behemoth task of detoxing? If not, you need to take supplements which help the liver detox phases accomplish their work and help the liver as a whole. There are various ways to accomplish this and they are all individual according to what your body lacks and can tolerate. But, you can ask at the forum what others have taken for this and they will tell you and you will then have to look into it on your own. immune system support—what is on your "master list" you made? When we say immune support, most think supplemental support, but there is an even better way to support your immune system, and that is to address all the various issues bringing it down. So, look at your list, and if you have candida, deal with the candida! If you have celiac disease, go completely and irrefutably gluten-free. [No, you cannot go gf except for alcohol! Sorry! ;) ] Make yourself a flow-chart of all your various issues and what can be done to make each of them better, or to eradicate them altogether. When you are done listing (and actually you should never be done listing, but this is an on-going journal you add to), take each idea, from easiest and least expensive to the hardest and most expensive and rate them. Then start the process of actually accomplishing these ideas. For example: I had to go gf; that is self explanatory. I had to also kill candida and other invaders. But there are harder and easier and expensive and inexpensive ways to accomplish candida killing. I started off with a diet and ended up with homeopathy. You can also take supplements to strengthen your immune system and you can also eat better. This is where anti-oxidants and food-based supplements and nutrients can come in. Blueberries and goji berries are very high in anti-oxidants, but you can take many supplements which help too. ANYBODY can eat better. Choose fresh organic foods over processed foods. Choose raw over cooked; choose veggies over junk foods and empty starches, choose brown rice over white rice and baked potato over fries, choose sugar-free over foods which have lots of sugar. Choose to drink quality water and, I think it is fairly universal here that we need alkalized water or water on the alkaline side; most of us are very acidic as a result of all our toxins. (I skipped ahead to pH control here. Real pH control will come in later in your plan, but this is a good place to start addressing it.) Don’t leave out alternative ideas. Some of those helped me the most: essential oils, herbs, gemstone frequencies, grounding yourself outdoors, walking barefoot in very natural settings, hugging a tree, plants in your home, magnesium and sea salts soaking, and other soaks, clays, etc, all have their place in helping us. Homeopathy helped me greatly, but be careful not to do too much too quickly. Detoxing footbaths might be good, but go slow enough that you don’t pull too many toxins out too quickly. If you see any doctor for detoxing, tell him to think of his most sensitive patient and then to remember you need to go twice as slow. When you have gotten to the place you have most of your body’s problems sorted out, take time to address pH—really work at it to tweek it to normal. I will send a site which explains how to do this." This should give you an idea of how to start. Now, get to work! j/k ;) Bless you, Christin. I wish you great health, Diane --- On Sat, 8/6/11, Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? Diane/others? To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 4:19 PM Where should this newie start? What are the basics? I'll try anything. I don't know much. I'm an open book. Thanks!!! Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? Hi, Stephen and All, Stephen writes: "Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet..." Me: I can *now* stand it quite well and can even sleep with it on (as I have, on a number of occasions, fell asleep late at night writing email, by accident, and woke up 4 hours later flat on the bed. ;) ) But what Stephen has written is very true--it is very helpful to disconnect all of your computer and internet wires when you are finished on your computer. I still do it, tho I don't have to. Why would I want all that garbage contaminating my bedroom (where my laptop is), even if I can tolerate it well? It is just another body stressor my immune system would need to contend with. I am looking to bring healing frequencies into my environment, not garbage. I also unplug my stereo system and tv and vcr, etc, etc, etc when I am done with them and these are not even connected to the outside world in the first place (I have no cable access now--I do not want it)! Unplugging is easy to do, just lean over and pull. It just takes a little initiative to take the time to do it. I tell newbies to do this all the time, but so few try it. I personally keep everything in my house unplugged except a few lights and the refrigerator. Electrics are a luxury which thousands of years of humanity never had in the first place. The least I can do is do the small work of leaning over and unplugging or plugging things in! It is silly, in this day and age, to sit on one's can and complain about frequencies if one is not willing to at least pull a plug in order to remove the offending frequency; and yet this is what I read/see/hear most often when I advise newbies to do this. So sad. :( Sorry if I sound insulting here. I have had a long, frustrating time of keeping quiet about this issue (too lazy to pull a plug) and it has hit the boil over point today. Bear with me; I will get over it. ;) Diane --- On Sat, 7/16/11, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? HAARP, mind control etc. To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 5:41 PM Hi, I've been experimenting with putting off my digital internet/phone/tv modem... I think in my entire house I feel much better when the modem is entirely OFF. Even although I have no Wifi system or anything wireless here... I have the exact same feeling of improvement at another house (with a different system for internet/phone/tv). Svetaswan has the same experience, she feels better when it's completely OFF not just when the Wifi is put off (via the browser-link). Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet... Actually I've also noticed it's a bit better when I'm in front of my pc and my pc is NOT linked to the internet. My laptop also emits more dirty electricity when it is linked to the internet (I can measure this)... It's a fact there is dirty electricity on these setup boxes for internet/phone/tv... It also seems it's best NOT to watch High Definition tv (HDTV), if you want to avoid at least some of the mind control signals emitted by your tv (read below), Oh and on Charles' site: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html there are many emf-sources on mp3, listening to it is probably a good test to check what you're most intolerant to... I remember not feeling a difference when listening to the sounds, only the HAARP-sounds I could not stand one little bit and causing me the same ES-symptoms I have in real life... Coincidence? If you think that the possibility of mind control, HAARP, etc. is way too far out, well I also used to believe what media had to say (or didn't disclose) about 9/11, chemtrails, Obama, fluoride, Fukushima, the economy etc. I hope it's getting obvious for most we can NOT believe the popular media one little bit! Watch the sky, often the clouds look sooooooo awkward and unnatural, not to mention the chemtrails of course... gr, Stephen. 'Sound of Silence' tech is also being transmitted through HDTV sets. The mind control possibilities of HDTV are revealed in US patent from 2002 titled 'Nervous System Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitors'. It reads: 'Many computer monitors and HD TV screens, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or DIGITAL TV set.' ... It is important to recognize that 'sound of silence' mind control is a global attack. It is being used in all Western countries and Eastern European countries (and possibly others), most likely put into action through the secret services that work directly for the Illuminati. ... Chemtrails sow the sky with metallic particles that conduct HAARP frequencies (and possibly other wave emitters such as GWEN towers), creating SSSS pulses that numb us with sensations of uneasiness, depression and foreboding. http://www.henrymakow.com/chemtrails_and_other_mind_cont.html if there are 200 million "regular" televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV × 200,000,000 = /$8 billion/. Why is the government so anxious to spend *8 billion dollars* on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420926/pg1 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Thanks Diane! I'm on a healing path. I eat well (no grains, sugars or processed foods) and I'm working on many aspects of my health. I am working on my candida and the reasons I have health issues in the 1st place. I was just saying I think EMF's are bad. I don't want to overcome being sensitive to them. I want to learn way to avoid exposure in all forms. I want to learn what has worked for others. So is this the wrong group for that?
Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? Diane/others? Hi again, Christin, This is mostly an email I wrote someone else previously. I will send more previously written emails privately, since I don't want this to turn into a "Diane-athon". lol (It already looks as tho it has!) The first thing to do is assess why you are here with us. What caused your ES or, at least, when was the first time you noticed it and what preceded that? Was it after you were tired and ill awhile? Which health problems have you had in the past and which do you have now? Write all this down on paper as a “master list”, because if your memory is a fried as most of ours, that is the only way you will remember it past 2 seconds. ;) What toxic events have you had in your life? Such as being in school during a lice outbreak and the dorms were all sprayed, or having a crop duster spray you while you were out walking….. Chemical toxins and medical drugs—write them all down. Do you have other parasites? Most of us have some kind (or all kinds!) of (generic term) parasites: bacteria, yeasts, viruses, myco-toxins, and actual (ugk!) parasites. [This is likely due to tight junction permeability which allows toxins full access to the body.] All of this info is going to lead you to where to start—we are all different in our experiences and exposures. But really, you have pretty much already decided where to start--candida is as good as any place to start. What Marc sent you today is also a pretty good place to start. Marc wrote: "there does seem to be some common ground throughout the years: -- heavy metal detox -- immune system support (anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-viral) -- anti-oxidants -- pH control -- foods-based vitamins and minerals" --liver support [my addition] I added also, “I want to add to the idea of immune system support.... any disease or chemical toxin build-up which one has can also affect the immune system negatively. For instance, celiac disease, [also thyroid disease and other endocrine problems and many others], antibiotic build-up, herbicides, pesticides.... In other words, any disease you can effectively treat or any chemical compounds you can get out of your body will also go a long way toward helping the immune system.” I would personally go about it like this (this is the email I promised I would share): "Can you tolerate your computer? If not, find ways to make it the most tolerable. This is your life line to help. Ask at the forum for suggestions. What can you do to your immediate atmosphere to help change it? This is where you live. Pull plugs, learn what you react to, find shielding helps, find fixes for your electrics if you need them, try going without your power—turn off electric at your circuit breaker; when you can, get a bed without metal in it and a mattress without springs. Get out of houses which are too close to huge towers or other detrimental surroundings or have mold or other toxic issues. If you have wireless anything in your house, get rid of it or at least ban it to the garage. Write down all ideas you come across at the emf sensitivity forums and sites which others have set up, so you can review them from time to time. Most of our brains are fried; we forget. If I could remember it all right now, I could write a 3 page paper on just the easy, very cost effective ways to approach this step. There are thousands of ideas out there and they all help at least a little. What can you do to help your body? Heavy metal detox—is it a problem or not? Do you have amalgams in your mouth? If you do, get them out, if possible; and find a good doc to do it who will not injure you further doing it. Is your liver up to the behemoth task of detoxing? If not, you need to take supplements which help the liver detox phases accomplish their work and help the liver as a whole. There are various ways to accomplish this and they are all individual according to what your body lacks and can tolerate. But, you can ask at the forum what others have taken for this and they will tell you and you will then have to look into it on your own. immune system support—what is on your "master list" you made? When we say immune support, most think supplemental support, but there is an even better way to support your immune system, and that is to address all the various issues bringing it down. So, look at your list, and if you have candida, deal with the candida! If you have celiac disease, go completely and irrefutably gluten-free. [No, you cannot go gf except for alcohol! Sorry! ;) ] Make yourself a flow-chart of all your various issues and what can be done to make each of them better, or to eradicate them altogether. When you are done listing (and actually you should never be done listing, but this is an on-going journal you add to), take each idea, from easiest and least expensive to the hardest and most expensive and rate them. Then start the process of actually accomplishing these ideas. For example: I had to go gf; that is self explanatory. I had to also kill candida and other invaders. But there are harder and easier and expensive and inexpensive ways to accomplish candida killing. I started off with a diet and ended up with homeopathy. You can also take supplements to strengthen your immune system and you can also eat better. This is where anti-oxidants and food-based supplements and nutrients can come in. Blueberries and goji berries are very high in anti-oxidants, but you can take many supplements which help too. ANYBODY can eat better. Choose fresh organic foods over processed foods. Choose raw over cooked; choose veggies over junk foods and empty starches, choose brown rice over white rice and baked potato over fries, choose sugar-free over foods which have lots of sugar. Choose to drink quality water and, I think it is fairly universal here that we need alkalized water or water on the alkaline side; most of us are very acidic as a result of all our toxins. (I skipped ahead to pH control here. Real pH control will come in later in your plan, but this is a good place to start addressing it.) Don’t leave out alternative ideas. Some of those helped me the most: essential oils, herbs, gemstone frequencies, grounding yourself outdoors, walking barefoot in very natural settings, hugging a tree, plants in your home, magnesium and sea salts soaking, and other soaks, clays, etc, all have their place in helping us. Homeopathy helped me greatly, but be careful not to do too much too quickly. Detoxing footbaths might be good, but go slow enough that you don’t pull too many toxins out too quickly. If you see any doctor for detoxing, tell him to think of his most sensitive patient and then to remember you need to go twice as slow. When you have gotten to the place you have most of your body’s problems sorted out, take time to address pH—really work at it to tweek it to normal. I will send a site which explains how to do this." This should give you an idea of how to start. Now, get to work! j/k ;) Bless you, Christin. I wish you great health, Diane --- On Sat, 8/6/11, Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? Diane/others? To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 4:19 PM Where should this newie start? What are the basics? I'll try anything. I don't know much. I'm an open book. Thanks!!! Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? Hi, Stephen and All, Stephen writes: "Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet..." Me: I can *now* stand it quite well and can even sleep with it on (as I have, on a number of occasions, fell asleep late at night writing email, by accident, and woke up 4 hours later flat on the bed. ;) ) But what Stephen has written is very true--it is very helpful to disconnect all of your computer and internet wires when you are finished on your computer. I still do it, tho I don't have to. Why would I want all that garbage contaminating my bedroom (where my laptop is), even if I can tolerate it well? It is just another body stressor my immune system would need to contend with. I am looking to bring healing frequencies into my environment, not garbage. I also unplug my stereo system and tv and vcr, etc, etc, etc when I am done with them and these are not even connected to the outside world in the first place (I have no cable access now--I do not want it)! Unplugging is easy to do, just lean over and pull. It just takes a little initiative to take the time to do it. I tell newbies to do this all the time, but so few try it. I personally keep everything in my house unplugged except a few lights and the refrigerator. Electrics are a luxury which thousands of years of humanity never had in the first place. The least I can do is do the small work of leaning over and unplugging or plugging things in! It is silly, in this day and age, to sit on one's can and complain about frequencies if one is not willing to at least pull a plug in order to remove the offending frequency; and yet this is what I read/see/hear most often when I advise newbies to do this. So sad. :( Sorry if I sound insulting here. I have had a long, frustrating time of keeping quiet about this issue (too lazy to pull a plug) and it has hit the boil over point today. Bear with me; I will get over it. ;) Diane --- On Sat, 7/16/11, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? HAARP, mind control etc. To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 5:41 PM Hi, I've been experimenting with putting off my digital internet/phone/tv modem... I think in my entire house I feel much better when the modem is entirely OFF. Even although I have no Wifi system or anything wireless here... I have the exact same feeling of improvement at another house (with a different system for internet/phone/tv). Svetaswan has the same experience, she feels better when it's completely OFF not just when the Wifi is put off (via the browser-link). Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet... Actually I've also noticed it's a bit better when I'm in front of my pc and my pc is NOT linked to the internet. My laptop also emits more dirty electricity when it is linked to the internet (I can measure this)... It's a fact there is dirty electricity on these setup boxes for internet/phone/tv... It also seems it's best NOT to watch High Definition tv (HDTV), if you want to avoid at least some of the mind control signals emitted by your tv (read below), Oh and on Charles' site: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html there are many emf-sources on mp3, listening to it is probably a good test to check what you're most intolerant to... I remember not feeling a difference when listening to the sounds, only the HAARP-sounds I could not stand one little bit and causing me the same ES-symptoms I have in real life... Coincidence? If you think that the possibility of mind control, HAARP, etc. is way too far out, well I also used to believe what media had to say (or didn't disclose) about 9/11, chemtrails, Obama, fluoride, Fukushima, the economy etc. I hope it's getting obvious for most we can NOT believe the popular media one little bit! Watch the sky, often the clouds look sooooooo awkward and unnatural, not to mention the chemtrails of course... gr, Stephen. 'Sound of Silence' tech is also being transmitted through HDTV sets. The mind control possibilities of HDTV are revealed in US patent from 2002 titled 'Nervous System Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitors'. It reads: 'Many computer monitors and HD TV screens, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or DIGITAL TV set.' ... It is important to recognize that 'sound of silence' mind control is a global attack. It is being used in all Western countries and Eastern European countries (and possibly others), most likely put into action through the secret services that work directly for the Illuminati. ... Chemtrails sow the sky with metallic particles that conduct HAARP frequencies (and possibly other wave emitters such as GWEN towers), creating SSSS pulses that numb us with sensations of uneasiness, depression and foreboding. http://www.henrymakow.com/chemtrails_and_other_mind_cont.html if there are 200 million "regular" televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV × 200,000,000 = /$8 billion/. Why is the government so anxious to spend *8 billion dollars* on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420926/pg1 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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> I don't want to overcome being sensitive to them. I want to
> learn way to avoid exposure in all forms. I want to learn > what has worked for others. So is this the wrong group for that? Yes, I think this is the correct group for that -- some people here are not as sensitive to EMF as they used to be, others have worked hard to reduce the EMF in their homes, and everyone shares what has and hasn't helped. Marc |
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Hi again, Christin,
You wrote: "Thanks Diane! I'm on a healing path. I eat well (no grains, sugars or processed foods) and I'm working on many aspects of my health. I am working on my candida and the reasons I have health issues in the 1st place. I was just saying I think EMF's are bad. I don't want to overcome being sensitive to them. I want to learn way to avoid exposure in all forms. I want to learn what has worked for others. So is this the wrong group for that?" OIC! No, not at all, Christin! You are not in the wrong group. There are people here on both paths, probably. But I and many others look at it as you do. I don't just work at getting better so I can have the latest, greatest electronic toy, I also avoid emfs and learn ways to keep my environment as pure as possible. [That is getting nearly impossible tho. But I think if we tough it out, things will end up changing to suit us. At least that is my hope.] That is what I had written earlier--I don't want any emfs around which I can easily (nor not so easily) avoid. It took me too long to get here. And I basically look at wireless, digital electronics today as an invention of the Devil, anyway. Many of us here do. I applaud you for the work you have already begun! Not everybody has the resolve to eat like you do. That takes alot of will-power. You will find what you need and heal. I can tell you have the right mind-set to stick with it. Bless you; good luck, Diane --- On Sat, 8/6/11, Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? Diane/others? To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 10:25 PM Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? Diane/others? Hi again, Christin, This is mostly an email I wrote someone else previously. I will send more previously written emails privately, since I don't want this to turn into a "Diane-athon". lol (It already looks as tho it has!) The first thing to do is assess why you are here with us. What caused your ES or, at least, when was the first time you noticed it and what preceded that? Was it after you were tired and ill awhile? Which health problems have you had in the past and which do you have now? Write all this down on paper as a “master list”, because if your memory is a fried as most of ours, that is the only way you will remember it past 2 seconds. ;) What toxic events have you had in your life? Such as being in school during a lice outbreak and the dorms were all sprayed, or having a crop duster spray you while you were out walking….. Chemical toxins and medical drugs—write them all down. Do you have other parasites? Most of us have some kind (or all kinds!) of (generic term) parasites: bacteria, yeasts, viruses, myco-toxins, and actual (ugk!) parasites. [This is likely due to tight junction permeability which allows toxins full access to the body.] All of this info is going to lead you to where to start—we are all different in our experiences and exposures. But really, you have pretty much already decided where to start--candida is as good as any place to start. What Marc sent you today is also a pretty good place to start. Marc wrote: "there does seem to be some common ground throughout the years: -- heavy metal detox -- immune system support (anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-viral) -- anti-oxidants -- pH control -- foods-based vitamins and minerals" --liver support [my addition] I added also, “I want to add to the idea of immune system support.... any disease or chemical toxin build-up which one has can also affect the immune system negatively. For instance, celiac disease, [also thyroid disease and other endocrine problems and many others], antibiotic build-up, herbicides, pesticides.... In other words, any disease you can effectively treat or any chemical compounds you can get out of your body will also go a long way toward helping the immune system.” I would personally go about it like this (this is the email I promised I would share): "Can you tolerate your computer? If not, find ways to make it the most tolerable. This is your life line to help. Ask at the forum for suggestions. What can you do to your immediate atmosphere to help change it? This is where you live. Pull plugs, learn what you react to, find shielding helps, find fixes for your electrics if you need them, try going without your power—turn off electric at your circuit breaker; when you can, get a bed without metal in it and a mattress without springs. Get out of houses which are too close to huge towers or other detrimental surroundings or have mold or other toxic issues. If you have wireless anything in your house, get rid of it or at least ban it to the garage. Write down all ideas you come across at the emf sensitivity forums and sites which others have set up, so you can review them from time to time. Most of our brains are fried; we forget. If I could remember it all right now, I could write a 3 page paper on just the easy, very cost effective ways to approach this step. There are thousands of ideas out there and they all help at least a little. What can you do to help your body? Heavy metal detox—is it a problem or not? Do you have amalgams in your mouth? If you do, get them out, if possible; and find a good doc to do it who will not injure you further doing it. Is your liver up to the behemoth task of detoxing? If not, you need to take supplements which help the liver detox phases accomplish their work and help the liver as a whole. There are various ways to accomplish this and they are all individual according to what your body lacks and can tolerate. But, you can ask at the forum what others have taken for this and they will tell you and you will then have to look into it on your own. immune system support—what is on your "master list" you made? When we say immune support, most think supplemental support, but there is an even better way to support your immune system, and that is to address all the various issues bringing it down. So, look at your list, and if you have candida, deal with the candida! If you have celiac disease, go completely and irrefutably gluten-free. [No, you cannot go gf except for alcohol! Sorry! ;) ] Make yourself a flow-chart of all your various issues and what can be done to make each of them better, or to eradicate them altogether. When you are done listing (and actually you should never be done listing, but this is an on-going journal you add to), take each idea, from easiest and least expensive to the hardest and most expensive and rate them. Then start the process of actually accomplishing these ideas. For example: I had to go gf; that is self explanatory. I had to also kill candida and other invaders. But there are harder and easier and expensive and inexpensive ways to accomplish candida killing. I started off with a diet and ended up with homeopathy. You can also take supplements to strengthen your immune system and you can also eat better. This is where anti-oxidants and food-based supplements and nutrients can come in. Blueberries and goji berries are very high in anti-oxidants, but you can take many supplements which help too. ANYBODY can eat better. Choose fresh organic foods over processed foods. Choose raw over cooked; choose veggies over junk foods and empty starches, choose brown rice over white rice and baked potato over fries, choose sugar-free over foods which have lots of sugar. Choose to drink quality water and, I think it is fairly universal here that we need alkalized water or water on the alkaline side; most of us are very acidic as a result of all our toxins. (I skipped ahead to pH control here. Real pH control will come in later in your plan, but this is a good place to start addressing it.) Don’t leave out alternative ideas. Some of those helped me the most: essential oils, herbs, gemstone frequencies, grounding yourself outdoors, walking barefoot in very natural settings, hugging a tree, plants in your home, magnesium and sea salts soaking, and other soaks, clays, etc, all have their place in helping us. Homeopathy helped me greatly, but be careful not to do too much too quickly. Detoxing footbaths might be good, but go slow enough that you don’t pull too many toxins out too quickly. If you see any doctor for detoxing, tell him to think of his most sensitive patient and then to remember you need to go twice as slow. When you have gotten to the place you have most of your body’s problems sorted out, take time to address pH—really work at it to tweek it to normal. I will send a site which explains how to do this." This should give you an idea of how to start. Now, get to work! j/k ;) Bless you, Christin. I wish you great health, Diane --- On Sat, 8/6/11, Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Christin Lussier <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? Diane/others? To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 4:19 PM Where should this newie start? What are the basics? I'll try anything. I don't know much. I'm an open book. Thanks!!! Mahalo, Christin Brezil Grain-Free Granola Head, wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." ~ Leonardo da Vinci http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin http://www.westonaprice.org/ http://www.gaps.me/ From: Evie <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? Hi, Stephen and All, Stephen writes: "Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet..." Me: I can *now* stand it quite well and can even sleep with it on (as I have, on a number of occasions, fell asleep late at night writing email, by accident, and woke up 4 hours later flat on the bed. ;) ) But what Stephen has written is very true--it is very helpful to disconnect all of your computer and internet wires when you are finished on your computer. I still do it, tho I don't have to. Why would I want all that garbage contaminating my bedroom (where my laptop is), even if I can tolerate it well? It is just another body stressor my immune system would need to contend with. I am looking to bring healing frequencies into my environment, not garbage. I also unplug my stereo system and tv and vcr, etc, etc, etc when I am done with them and these are not even connected to the outside world in the first place (I have no cable access now--I do not want it)! Unplugging is easy to do, just lean over and pull. It just takes a little initiative to take the time to do it. I tell newbies to do this all the time, but so few try it. I personally keep everything in my house unplugged except a few lights and the refrigerator. Electrics are a luxury which thousands of years of humanity never had in the first place. The least I can do is do the small work of leaning over and unplugging or plugging things in! It is silly, in this day and age, to sit on one's can and complain about frequencies if one is not willing to at least pull a plug in order to remove the offending frequency; and yet this is what I read/see/hear most often when I advise newbies to do this. So sad. :( Sorry if I sound insulting here. I have had a long, frustrating time of keeping quiet about this issue (too lazy to pull a plug) and it has hit the boil over point today. Bear with me; I will get over it. ;) Diane --- On Sat, 7/16/11, stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> wrote: From: stephen_vandevijvere <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? HAARP, mind control etc. To: [hidden email] Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 5:41 PM Hi, I've been experimenting with putting off my digital internet/phone/tv modem... I think in my entire house I feel much better when the modem is entirely OFF. Even although I have no Wifi system or anything wireless here... I have the exact same feeling of improvement at another house (with a different system for internet/phone/tv). Svetaswan has the same experience, she feels better when it's completely OFF not just when the Wifi is put off (via the browser-link). Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet... Actually I've also noticed it's a bit better when I'm in front of my pc and my pc is NOT linked to the internet. My laptop also emits more dirty electricity when it is linked to the internet (I can measure this)... It's a fact there is dirty electricity on these setup boxes for internet/phone/tv... It also seems it's best NOT to watch High Definition tv (HDTV), if you want to avoid at least some of the mind control signals emitted by your tv (read below), Oh and on Charles' site: http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html there are many emf-sources on mp3, listening to it is probably a good test to check what you're most intolerant to... I remember not feeling a difference when listening to the sounds, only the HAARP-sounds I could not stand one little bit and causing me the same ES-symptoms I have in real life... Coincidence? If you think that the possibility of mind control, HAARP, etc. is way too far out, well I also used to believe what media had to say (or didn't disclose) about 9/11, chemtrails, Obama, fluoride, Fukushima, the economy etc. I hope it's getting obvious for most we can NOT believe the popular media one little bit! Watch the sky, often the clouds look sooooooo awkward and unnatural, not to mention the chemtrails of course... gr, Stephen. 'Sound of Silence' tech is also being transmitted through HDTV sets. The mind control possibilities of HDTV are revealed in US patent from 2002 titled 'Nervous System Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitors'. It reads: 'Many computer monitors and HD TV screens, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or DIGITAL TV set.' ... It is important to recognize that 'sound of silence' mind control is a global attack. It is being used in all Western countries and Eastern European countries (and possibly others), most likely put into action through the secret services that work directly for the Illuminati. ... Chemtrails sow the sky with metallic particles that conduct HAARP frequencies (and possibly other wave emitters such as GWEN towers), creating SSSS pulses that numb us with sensations of uneasiness, depression and foreboding. http://www.henrymakow.com/chemtrails_and_other_mind_cont.html if there are 200 million "regular" televisions in America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per TV × 200,000,000 = /$8 billion/. Why is the government so anxious to spend *8 billion dollars* on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV picture? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420926/pg1 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Some precautionary measures you can take are provided in
http://www.wireless-precaution.com/main/precautions.php These are divided into categories for wireless, electric, broad-spectrum frequencies, and magnetic. Robert Becker's The Body Electric explains how electric fields not only can weaken the immune system, but also foster microorganisms' growth, so to strengthen yourself, you might want to experiment with turning off the circuit breakers for circuits that go to your room or through your room, e.g., the ceiling of the room beneath you. --- In [hidden email], Christin Lussier <thomasandchristin@...> wrote: > > I feel ill, tired and my candida symptoms are worse when I am around too much Emf's. I don't really want to overcome this issue just learn how to avoid the sources that are the worse. Is this the wrong group? > > > Mahalo, > Christin Brezil > Grain-Free Granola Head, > wife to Thomas and momma to 3 boys > {Dylan Bryce 10 }{ Evan Lane 5 }{ Lucian Kai 2 } >  > "Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication." > ~ Leonardo da Vinci >  > http://www.facebook.com/thomasandchristin > http://www.westonaprice.org/ > http://www.gaps.me/ > > From: Marc Martin <marc@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:29 PM > Subject: [eSens] Re: The Basics > > >  > > Where should this newie start? What are the basics? I'll try anything. > > I don't know much. I'm an open book. Thanks!!! > > Well, we do have years of discussions that you could search through, > depending on what you are specifically interested in. > > Also, there are some good websites out there, for example, Gillian > Joy's "Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity" website. > > http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/ > > Otherwise, I guess we need to know more specifically what problems > you are trying to overcome? > > Marc > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Check your ethernet switch. If it's 2-prong, it's not grounded, and its electricity (and kHz frequencies) will be carried along the ethernet cable.
LCD displays also have broad-spectrum kHz frequencies. Distance from the computer is important, and it's a good idea to unplug when you're finished with using it. --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > Hi, Stephen and All, >  > Stephen writes: > "Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet..." >  > Me: > I can *now* stand it quite well and can even sleep with it on (as I have, on a number of occasions, fell asleep late at night writing email, by accident, and woke up 4 hours later flat on the bed. ;) ) But what Stephen has written is very true--it is very helpful to disconnect all of your computer and internet wires when you are finished on your computer. I still do it, tho I don't have to. >  > Why would I want all that garbage contaminating my bedroom (where my laptop is), even if I can tolerate it well? It is just another body stressor my immune system would need to contend with. I am looking to bring healing frequencies into my environment, not garbage. I also unplug my stereo system and tv and vcr, etc, etc, etc when I am done with them and these are not even connected to the outside world in the first place (I have no cable access now--I do not want it)!  Unplugging is easy to do, just lean over and pull. It just takes a little initiative to take the time to do it. I tell newbies to do this all the time, but so few try it. I personally keep everything in my house unplugged except a few lights and the refrigerator. >  > Electrics are a luxury which thousands of years of humanity never had in the first place. The least I can do is do the small work of leaning over and unplugging or plugging things in! It is silly, in this day and age, to sit on one's can and complain about frequencies if one is not willing to at least pull a plug in order to remove the offending frequency; and yet this is what I read/see/hear most often when I advise newbies to do this. So sad. :( Sorry if I sound insulting here. I have had a long, frustrating time of keeping quiet about this issue (too lazy to pull a plug) and it has hit the boil over point today. Bear with me; I will get over it. ;) >  > Diane > > > --- On Sat, 7/16/11, stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> wrote: > > > From: stephen_vandevijvere <stephen_vandevijvere@...> > Subject: [eSens] Internet off? HDTV out? HAARP, mind control etc. > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, July 16, 2011, 5:41 PM > > >  > > > > Hi, > > I've been experimenting with putting off my digital internet/phone/tv modem... > > I think in my entire house I feel much better when the modem is entirely OFF. Even although I have no Wifi system or anything wireless here... > > I have the exact same feeling of improvement at another house (with a different system for internet/phone/tv). > > Svetaswan has the same experience, she feels better when it's completely OFF not just when the Wifi is put off (via the browser-link). > > Diane/Evie can't stand it very well either if her pc is linked to the internet... > > Actually I've also noticed it's a bit better when I'm in front of my pc and my pc is NOT linked to the internet. My laptop also emits more dirty electricity when it is linked to the internet (I can measure this)... > > It's a fact there is dirty electricity on these setup boxes for internet/phone/tv... > > It also seems it's best NOT to watch High Definition tv (HDTV), if you want to avoid at least some of the mind control signals emitted by your tv (read below), > > Oh and on Charles' site: > http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina109.html > there are many emf-sources on mp3, listening to it is probably a good test to check what you're most intolerant to... I remember not feeling a difference when listening to the sounds, only the HAARP-sounds I could not stand one little bit and causing me the same ES-symptoms I have in real life... Coincidence? > > If you think that the possibility of mind control, HAARP, etc. is way too far out, well I also used to believe what media had to say (or didn't disclose) about 9/11, chemtrails, Obama, fluoride, Fukushima, the economy etc. > > I hope it's getting obvious for most we can NOT believe the popular media one little bit! > > Watch the sky, often the clouds look sooooooo awkward and unnatural, not to mention the chemtrails of course... > > gr, > Stephen. > > 'Sound of Silence' tech is also being transmitted through HDTV sets. The mind control possibilities of HDTV are revealed in US patent from 2002 titled 'Nervous System Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitors'. It reads: > > 'Many computer monitors and HD TV screens, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or DIGITAL TV set.' > ... > It is important to recognize that 'sound of silence' mind control is a global attack. It is being used in all Western countries and Eastern European countries (and possibly others), most likely put into action through the secret services that work directly for the Illuminati. > ... > Chemtrails sow the sky with metallic particles that conduct HAARP frequencies (and possibly other wave emitters such as GWEN towers), creating SSSS pulses that numb us with sensations of uneasiness, depression and foreboding. > > http://www.henrymakow.com/chemtrails_and_other_mind_cont.html > > if there are 200 million "regular" televisions in > America to be converted into HD, then that $40 in government subsidy per > TV à 200,000,000 = /$8 billion/. Why is the government so anxious to > spend *8 billion dollars* on her citizens to improve the clarity of a TV > picture? > > http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread420926/pg1 > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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