I'm new here.

Good to join the group.
My name is Paul and have been ill for 20 years. I am now 35 years
old. Mainly neck, shoulder, muscle, joint and over body pain. Also
muscle twitching, extreme fatigue, tired muscles, sleeping problems
and trouble concentrating sometimes. Headaches, straining muscles
are pretty much constant. Felling like the inside of my body is
burning, screaming in pain. Trouble breathing sometimes. I used to
be very active now I move my body as least as possible, though I can
do normal everyday activities, shopping, light work, etc.
If anyone would like to see my quest of possible solutions, please
Email me personally. The list is extremely long. I have researched
my problem actively and have wasted several hundred thousand dollars
on trying to heal myself. I have not found a solution yet.
I finally feel that I know the cause of this horrible condition, EM
Sensitivity. Before I saw no causation whatsoever to my flare-ups or
pain. I finally see some patterns in my pain, now that I know what
to look for. My pain is now a 7 or 8 rather than a constant 10. I
am on light pain medication to manage it, and to sleep at night.
I am hopeful to communicate to as many people as possible about this
affliction and to learn what has helped you guys. Now I am using an
Energem. www.energems.com It seems to calm the area a bit. I'm
told that it works better and better the longer that I use it, it's
only been 30 days, but I need to tackle this thing by other methods
also. I'm also going to order a diagnosis kit from www.lessems.com.  
Any luck with this anyone? Any feedback?
Mainly, I would like to know what has helped you guys. I don't want
to do this blindly. What are the solutions.  
With muscle testing, I am so sensitive that the credit card strips
(the magnetic strip) makes me very very weak. I can't be near cell
phones, cars, lights, computers, tvs, digital clocks, anything even
slightly magnetic. The energem seems to make me strong but not
really better, at least yet. I'm still working at my job, around
electricity and computers, although I feel like I'm under attack all
of the time......by invisible EMF's.
Please respond with solutions to the entire group as I'm sure that
others are looking for solutions also.  
I've built my entire life around finding a solution to my pain and I
hope that this is the true cause and that I will finally find the
true solution.
With persistence,
Paul

> My name is Paul and have been ill for 20 years. I am now 35 years
> old. Mainly neck, shoulder, muscle, joint and over body pain. Also
> muscle twitching, extreme fatigue, tired muscles, sleeping problems
> and trouble concentrating sometimes.

Welcome, Paul. Have you looked into heavy metal poisoning? Do you
have a lot of metal dental work in your mouth? It seems that a lot
of the trouble that people have with EMF is being they have too much
conductive metals in/on their body.

Also, have you done any dietary modifications to improve your
nutritional status? (or were you already eating healthy?)

Marc

Hi Paul,

EMF sensitivity or any sensitivity usually occurs a part of the
total toxic load on the body.

I am now convinced from testimonials that a relatively new
detoxification product, natural cellular defense, ncd, or liquid
zeolite is the most most effective single thing for detox and with
the fewest side effects.

What helped a lot for me is a raw food diet: dairy, meat, eggs,
vegetable juice, a little fruit, honey. Especially raw butter. If
you are really thin you will benefit greatly from weight gain. When
i started i was 133, and felt better as i gained weight and had huge
leap at 170 lbs, then settled at 186 for two and a half years, with
a period of weight loss to experiment, crashing when i dropped below
170. The conern for parasites from raw food is basically false and
you can read about it if your research the Primal Diet.

Magnesium is perhaps the key missing nutrient: use "magnesium oil"
on the skin or interally, Concentrace internally, and dead sea salts
in a bath. This is magnesium chloride, not sulphate. Mag addresses
all the issues you mentioned.

Clay is very helpful: eating, packs or baths. Clay absorbs toxcity
and balances the body. www.eytonsearth.org

The Graham-Stetzer Filters for emf noise on the lines in your house
are product with high credibility.

Paul

marc/paul

marc how does zeolite and ndf work differently to homeopathic remedies.
if i was to take either would it be better, as i have still the
fillings in my mouth...
as i mentioned before i became very unwell when i took the homeopathy
due to probably the mercury going into my blood.
thanks
pete
On 2 Apr 2007, at 01:55, sctdh wrote:

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear all:

I'd like to address some of the posts on this forum lately. My
personal beliefe is that a very large percentage of the people who
develope ES are mercury-toxic. The longtime key to complete recovery
from ES is getting the Hg out of your bodies. Now, the big question
is how to do this SAFELY. The human body is very smart. It stores
the Hg in the 'safest' places. When you take anything that mobilizes
Hg from the tissues, you can either be lucky and get (most of) the
mobilized Hg out, or you could be in for 'hell' and damage your
health permanently. Which category you will fall into depends on
your overall nutritient/mineral-status and how good your liver is
functioning. If you have liver-trouble and are deficient in
nutritients, you must be VERY carefull if you're using Hg-
mobilizers, either it is chelators (like DMSA/ALA), homeopathic
remedies, or other stuff.
When we're sick, and perhaps have been for several years, we often
want to get well quickly, but the absolutely safest way to go is to
build up your body through diet and nutritional supplements. This
might take a long time, but as your body gets stronger, it will
start cleansing it self of Hg (slowly!). However, what kind of
supplements to use and what diet to choose you have to figure out
for yourself. No two persons have the same nutritional status. You
have to experiment and find out what's working and what's not
working. Marc is a good example of someone having done this nicely.
Other therapies might help a Hg toxic person. If you can find e.g. a
well educated homeopath with long experience, preferably with Hg-
toxic patients, and also preferrably with somekind of EAV-testing
equipment or kinesiology-experience, you could probably benefit
alot. You wouldn't want to get homeopatic Hg-mobilizers, you would
want to get homeopathic medicine based on your constitution (and
perhaps symptoms).

Paul - from your symptoms it is obvious to me that you are Hg-toxic.
You have to make a longtime plan on how to 'take control' of your
own body again.

And anyone having mercury-fillings: You HAVE to get them out. Make a
plan, and work with a dentist with the right equipment for safe
removal. Take it slowly, one filling at a time. Take lots of vitamin
C, Selenium, B-vitamins in the weeks prior to and after removal. Do
NOT use Hg-chelators with your fillings still in.

And also: Some (I suspect many with ES) are hypersensitive to Hg.
I.e. they have an immune-response to the Hg that is mobilized out
from whereever it is stored in the body. If this is so, be EXTRA
careful with Hg-mobilizers. Marc, based on your description of how
you react to some Hg-mobilizing supplements, I suspect you to be in
this category. Some people are not even very toxic, they just have
an enormous 'Hg-allergy'. If you have symptoms like muscle-twitching
an aches an pain, I suspect you are toxic. The worst thing is
ofcourse being BOTH toxic and allergic.

Thanks,
Aslak.

--- In [hidden email], "sctdh" <bmfb@...> wrote:
Is that the one with the flashy advertising? NDF has been effective - www.bioray2000.com



>
> What helped a lot for me is a raw food diet: dairy, meat, eggs,
> vegetable juice, a little fruit, honey. Especially raw butter.

Many of us had bad results with dairy, seeds & sweet.


>
> Magnesium is perhaps the key missing nutrient: use "magnesium oil"
> on the skin or interally, Concentrace internally, and dead sea salts
> in a bath. This is magnesium chloride, not sulphate. Mag addresses
> all the issues you mentioned.


Raw cocoa powder is supposed to be very high in magnesium. Add some unsalted butter
and enough honey to cut the bitterness, you have something tasty.


>
> Clay is very helpful: eating, packs or baths. Clay absorbs toxcity
> and balances the body. www.eytonsearth.org
>
> The Graham-Stetzer Filters for emf noise on the lines in your house
> are product with high credibility.
>
> Paul
>

hi asiak
that was a great post. So that brings me to the point regarding
selenium/vitc as well. These things are chelators as well
so one should not be supplementing with them, should they ?
and then i shouldn't be eating anything sulphur based as well cause
this is chelating as well.
I believe selenium is a chelator as well so no brazil nuts.
Does anyone recommend anyone i could see, im in the uk and have seen so
many ppl now but its ok knowing whats wrong
with you but as asiak said its getting the bloody hg out of you're body.
pete
On 2 Apr 2007, at 13:31, kefirisgood wrote:

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Alask,
Wow, thank you very much for your input. I am attaching my "Testimonial". It's not done but after I've finished the last thing, the one that works, then it will be a true testimonial, not just a story.
OK, 15 years ago I properly had all of my mercury filling removed, there was 2. I followed it with neural therapy and all thing necessary to detox properly. Funny you say that. As the only other thing that has come up, after the E Sensitivity, is mercury poisoning, so I"m taking Bucci to get it out through my kidneys.

Interesting, been on the Bucci for 2 weeks with only a little help so far.

What do you think?

Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: kefirisgood
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:31 AM
Subject: [eSens] Hg-toxicity (Was: Re: I'm new here.)


Dear all:

I'd like to address some of the posts on this forum lately. My
personal beliefe is that a very large percentage of the people who
develope ES are mercury-toxic. The longtime key to complete recovery
from ES is getting the Hg out of your bodies. Now, the big question
is how to do this SAFELY. The human body is very smart. It stores
the Hg in the 'safest' places. When you take anything that mobilizes
Hg from the tissues, you can either be lucky and get (most of) the
mobilized Hg out, or you could be in for 'hell' and damage your
health permanently. Which category you will fall into depends on
your overall nutritient/mineral-status and how good your liver is
functioning. If you have liver-trouble and are deficient in
nutritients, you must be VERY carefull if you're using Hg-
mobilizers, either it is chelators (like DMSA/ALA), homeopathic
remedies, or other stuff.
When we're sick, and perhaps have been for several years, we often
want to get well quickly, but the absolutely safest way to go is to
build up your body through diet and nutritional supplements. This
might take a long time, but as your body gets stronger, it will
start cleansing it self of Hg (slowly!). However, what kind of
supplements to use and what diet to choose you have to figure out
for yourself. No two persons have the same nutritional status. You
have to experiment and find out what's working and what's not
working. Marc is a good example of someone having done this nicely.
Other therapies might help a Hg toxic person. If you can find e.g. a
well educated homeopath with long experience, preferably with Hg-
toxic patients, and also preferrably with somekind of EAV-testing
equipment or kinesiology-experience, you could probably benefit
alot. You wouldn't want to get homeopatic Hg-mobilizers, you would
want to get homeopathic medicine based on your constitution (and
perhaps symptoms).

Paul - from your symptoms it is obvious to me that you are Hg-toxic.
You have to make a longtime plan on how to 'take control' of your
own body again.

And anyone having mercury-fillings: You HAVE to get them out. Make a
plan, and work with a dentist with the right equipment for safe
removal. Take it slowly, one filling at a time. Take lots of vitamin
C, Selenium, B-vitamins in the weeks prior to and after removal. Do
NOT use Hg-chelators with your fillings still in.

And also: Some (I suspect many with ES) are hypersensitive to Hg.
I.e. they have an immune-response to the Hg that is mobilized out
from whereever it is stored in the body. If this is so, be EXTRA
careful with Hg-mobilizers. Marc, based on your description of how
you react to some Hg-mobilizing supplements, I suspect you to be in
this category. Some people are not even very toxic, they just have
an enormous 'Hg-allergy'. If you have symptoms like muscle-twitching
an aches an pain, I suspect you are toxic. The worst thing is
ofcourse being BOTH toxic and allergic.

Thanks,
Aslak.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

There are some articles and products on this site regarding mercury.

http://www.magneticclay.com/diet_recipes.php

and it seems like it is important to avoid acid-forming foods


--- In [hidden email], pete robinson <robbo@...> wrote:
>
> hi asiak
> that was a great post. So that brings me to the point regarding
> selenium/vitc as well. These things are chelators as well
> so one should not be supplementing with them, should they ?
> and then i shouldn't be eating anything sulphur based as well cause
> this is chelating as well.
> I believe selenium is a chelator as well so no brazil nuts.
> Does anyone recommend anyone i could see, im in the uk and have
seen so
> many ppl now but its ok knowing whats wrong
> with you but as asiak said its getting the bloody hg out of you're
body.
> pete
> On 2 Apr 2007, at 13:31, kefirisgood wrote:
>
> > Dear all:
> >
> > I'd like to address some of the posts on this forum lately. My
> > personal beliefe is that a very large percentage of the people
who
> > develope ES are mercury-toxic. The longtime key to complete
recovery
> > from ES is getting the Hg out of your bodies. Now, the big
question
> > is how to do this SAFELY. The human body is very smart. It stores
> > the Hg in the 'safest' places. When you take anything that
mobilizes
> > Hg from the tissues, you can either be lucky and get (most of)
the
> > mobilized Hg out, or you could be in for 'hell' and damage your
> > health permanently. Which category you will fall into depends on
> > your overall nutritient/mineral-status and how good your liver is
> > functioning. If you have liver-trouble and are deficient in
> > nutritients, you must be VERY carefull if you're using Hg-
> > mobilizers, either it is chelators (like DMSA/ALA), homeopathic
> > remedies, or other stuff.
> > When we're sick, and perhaps have been for several years, we
often
> > want to get well quickly, but the absolutely safest way to go is
to
> > build up your body through diet and nutritional supplements. This
> > might take a long time, but as your body gets stronger, it will
> > start cleansing it self of Hg (slowly!). However, what kind of
> > supplements to use and what diet to choose you have to figure out
> > for yourself. No two persons have the same nutritional status.
You
> > have to experiment and find out what's working and what's not
> > working. Marc is a good example of someone having done this
nicely.
> > Other therapies might help a Hg toxic person. If you can find
e.g. a
> > well educated homeopath with long experience, preferably with Hg-
> > toxic patients, and also preferrably with somekind of EAV-testing
> > equipment or kinesiology-experience, you could probably benefit
> > alot. You wouldn't want to get homeopatic Hg-mobilizers, you
would
> > want to get homeopathic medicine based on your constitution (and
> > perhaps symptoms).
> >
> > Paul - from your symptoms it is obvious to me that you are Hg-
toxic.
> > You have to make a longtime plan on how to 'take control' of your
> > own body again.
> >
> > And anyone having mercury-fillings: You HAVE to get them out.
Make a
> > plan, and work with a dentist with the right equipment for safe
> > removal. Take it slowly, one filling at a time. Take lots of
vitamin
> > C, Selenium, B-vitamins in the weeks prior to and after removal.
Do
> > NOT use Hg-chelators with your fillings still in.
> >
> > And also: Some (I suspect many with ES) are hypersensitive to Hg.
> > I.e. they have an immune-response to the Hg that is mobilized out
> > from whereever it is stored in the body. If this is so, be EXTRA
> > careful with Hg-mobilizers. Marc, based on your description of
how
> > you react to some Hg-mobilizing supplements, I suspect you to be
in
> > this category. Some people are not even very toxic, they just
have
> > an enormous 'Hg-allergy'. If you have symptoms like muscle-
twitching

Hi Paul,
it would help you alot to get a job away from computers. Computer
monitors and TVs are one of the worst or maybe even the worst thing
for people suffering with this. I also have problems with radios and
fridges, but have little or no problem with ovens. If you are sitting
at or near computers all day, even being several metres away will
still affect you, so what I find helps is if I use the computer for
maybe 1 1/2 hours then switch it off for a couple of hours, this
lessens the symptoms.

It seems to me that the electrical field, rather than the magnetic is
what is causing me problems and I have a computer screen filter which
blocks alot of the electric field which has helped.

Having heavy metals in your body is a major cause of ES and there are
several ways to try to remove them and alot of threads on here are
about this. And some symptoms are specifically related to mercury
which several products help remove, but they also mobilize the
mercury in your body which may actually make you alot worse.

from Richard


--- In [hidden email], "furnitureguru1" <blackswan@...> wrote:
>
> Good to join the group.
> My name is Paul and have been ill for 20 years. I am now 35 years
> old. Mainly neck, shoulder, muscle, joint and over body pain.  
Also
> muscle twitching, extreme fatigue, tired muscles, sleeping problems
> and trouble concentrating sometimes. Headaches, straining muscles
> are pretty much constant. Felling like the inside of my body is
> burning, screaming in pain. Trouble breathing sometimes. I used
to
> be very active now I move my body as least as possible, though I
can
> do normal everyday activities, shopping, light work, etc.
> If anyone would like to see my quest of possible solutions, please
> Email me personally. The list is extremely long. I have
researched
> my problem actively and have wasted several hundred thousand
dollars
> on trying to heal myself. I have not found a solution yet.
> I finally feel that I know the cause of this horrible condition,
EM
> Sensitivity. Before I saw no causation whatsoever to my flare-ups
or
> pain. I finally see some patterns in my pain, now that I know what
> to look for. My pain is now a 7 or 8 rather than a constant 10. I
> am on light pain medication to manage it, and to sleep at night.
> I am hopeful to communicate to as many people as possible about
this
> affliction and to learn what has helped you guys. Now I am using
an
> Energem. www.energems.com It seems to calm the area a bit. I'm
> told that it works better and better the longer that I use it, it's
> only been 30 days, but I need to tackle this thing by other methods
> also. I'm also going to order a diagnosis kit from
www.lessems.com.  
> Any luck with this anyone? Any feedback?
> Mainly, I would like to know what has helped you guys. I don't
want
> to do this blindly. What are the solutions.  
> With muscle testing, I am so sensitive that the credit card strips
> (the magnetic strip) makes me very very weak. I can't be near cell
> phones, cars, lights, computers, tvs, digital clocks, anything even
> slightly magnetic. The energem seems to make me strong but not
> really better, at least yet. I'm still working at my job, around
> electricity and computers, although I feel like I'm under attack
all
> of the time......by invisible EMF's.
> Please respond with solutions to the entire group as I'm sure that
> others are looking for solutions also.  
> I've built my entire life around finding a solution to my pain and
I
> hope that this is the true cause and that I will finally find the
> true solution.
> With persistence,
> Paul
>

Hi Paul,
My understanding is that you should not do any mercury detox if you still
have mercury fillings in your mouth. I had my amalgams removed in 2002 and
did 2 years of chelation per the Andy Cutler protocol with DMPS and ALA. I
still got MCS and EMF sensitivitiy. But I could very well still have a lot
of metals in me...there are so many sources in the world today
unfortunately.

What helped me immensely with my MCS reactivity level (ie total body burden)
was drinking wheatgrass every day and /or nettle infusions (put boiling
water in a big glass jar with ~a cup of organic dried nettle herb and let
sit overnight; strain out nettles and drink liquid when it cools). Both
contain a lot of magnesium and other nutrients. Chlorophyll has the same
molecular structure as the red blood cell, except instead of iron at its
core, it has magnesium. So any chlorophyll rich drink/food will help with
magnesium deficiencies.

I developed intolerances to both liquids after a while so I stopped at the
beginning of winter. I am hoping as spring/summer approaches I can start up
again. If anyone decides to try wheatgrass juice, make sure it's organic,
fresh squeezed and that you build up VERY slowly at first. It is HIGHLY
detoxifying. I had 1 drop of it on my tongue when I started it and it made
me feel hyper/wired and then 20 mins later EXTREMELY fatigued, due to it's
detoxifying effect. I built up over the next few weeks to taking 3-4 oz per
day.

This was before I became aware of my EMF sensitivity so I can't say if it
will help with that. But since it was suggested in other posts to get more
magnesium, I thought I would mention this. It's not cheap to buy wheatgrass
juice every day from a health food store but you could also buy a machine
and buy bags of fresh wheatgrass each week from a health food store or
online and do it yourself for less money.

Another way to get magnesium without ingesting anything: take Epsom salt
baths.

Hope this is helpful to someone,
Julie
www.PlanetThrive.com

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> Wow, thank you very much for your input. I am attaching my "Testimonial".

Note that this group rejects any attachments that you place into your
emails. Just copy and paste the text into the message body, and that
will work.

Marc

> that was a great post. So that brings me to the point regarding
> selenium/vitc as well. These things are chelators as well
> so one should not be supplementing with them, should they ?
> and then i shouldn't be eating anything sulphur based as well cause
> this is chelating as well.

Everyone is different in this regard, but essentially you are correct.
I know that I will feel terrible (even today, years later and feeling
much better overall than I used to) if I start eating a lot of
foods high in sulfer or selenium (eggs, brazil nuts, etc.) I think
these things mostly just "stir up" the mercury into your system,
without shielding your body from the damage or necessarily getting
it out of your body.

I was actually taking things that were considered to be "chelators"
prior to having my fillings removed. And some of those things
helped me immensely in building up my health, but I had to experiment
with dosage and combining them to find something that worked for me.
And the things that were the most helpful were not things that
are commonly recommended by anyone for chelation (Crystal Energy,
Microhydrin/Mega-H, Cellfood)

Marc

>> I am now convinced from testimonials that a relatively new
>> detoxification product, natural cellular defense, ncd, or liquid
>> zeolite is the most most effective single thing for detox and with
>> the fewest side effects.
>
> Is that the one with the flashy advertising? NDF has been effective - www.bioray2000.com

Yes, NCD does indeed seem to have a big advertising budget. :-)
And some people *do* have really bad side effects from NCD... me, for
example. And I've seen others who have reported the same thing
on heavy metal poisoning lists. So one should be careful with
the initial dose -- instead of jumping in with the recommended
10 drops at a time, try ONE DROP and see how you do!

Marc

> marc how does zeolite and ndf work differently to homeopathic remedies.
> if i was to take either would it be better, as i have still the
> fillings in my mouth...

Homeopathic mercury detox remedies contain the frequency of mercury,
which encourages your body to release stored mercury into your bloodstream.
A normal liver, kidneys, and colon would be able to process this mercury
and get it out of the body. If your body is unable to process and
eliminate this mercury by itself, then the mercury is just going to
recirculate and redeposit somewhere else in your body, and you will
feel terrible.

The NCD and NDF work under a different principal, in that they have
a physical agent which will grab onto the mercury, and then your
body will expel this and the mercury along with it. In this case,
your body doesn't have to be able to process and eliminate mercury.
The problem for many is that no chelator will take out 100% of
what it mobilizes, so you will still have a reaction to the stuff
that gets mobilized but not eliminated.

If I go back 7 years to when I was at my most toxic, one of the
first supplements that I tried that really helped my health
was called "Crystal Energy". I bought this because it was
supposed to help with hydration, and I was having a terrible
time with staying hydrated at the time. It worked! Now, I see
many years later this product claims to be one of the safest
things to remove heavy metals from the body:

http://www.phisciences.com/crystal_energy.html

I don't think they were making that claim 7 years ago, but I
responded quite well to this product, and never had a bad
reaction to it... unlike the NCD and NDF, which I have
to be very careful with...

Marc

I agree and the difference between us and a ton of other people that have
plenty of mercury in their bodies and not having ES is...?

My theory is my gut and blood brain barrier linings has been compromised.

I think that is why my body got hit so much harder with the same toxins and
I was aggressively detoxing while in a very sick house and environment which
opened up the blood brain barrier and eroded my intestinal lining.

Rebuilding the gut and blood brain barrier I believe is key BEFORE detoxing
because detoxing will only RETOX ourselves with a leaky gut and a permeable
brain barrier.
That is my latest chicken and egg theory.
Andrew

>On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 12:31:53 0000 kefirisgood <[hidden email]>
wrote.
Andrew McAfee

Just out of interest when the body rids itself of Mercury what elimination
pathways does it use ? Sweat, urine, feaces this must be known if so have any
tests been performed on those who chelate for signs of mercury chelation
sucess ?

Paul UK






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[hidden email] wrote:
> Just out of interest when the body rids itself of Mercury what elimination
> pathways does it use ? Sweat, urine, feaces this must be known if so have any
> tests been performed on those who chelate for signs of mercury chelation
> sucess ?

It's mostly supposed to go out via the feces. When taking a chelator, it
may go out via the urine or feces, depending on the type of chelator that
is being used.

One reason that some people do much better on NDF or NCD is that most
of the metals get directed out via the urine with these, which may be a
less compromised pathway than the usual fecal route.

And of course, if you are using some kind of sauna or steamroom, or excercising
a lot, then sweat is another possibility.

Marc

There are urine and fecal charge tests. The hair isn't as accurate.
I think it is best to have it slowly eliminated via fecal and urine
before sweating it out. The skin is the last line of elimination when
the others aren't working well enough.
When you get spots and blemishes on the skin, that is a sign that that
skin is handling the excess toxins.
my 2 cents,
Andrew

On Apr 2, 2007, at 3:50 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

Hi Pete!

Well, I don't consider Vitamin C or selenium to be (strong)
chelators. Yes, they are supplements recommended for Hg-toxicity,
but they do not have a strong mobilizing effect like the sulfur-
compounds DMSA/DMPS/ALA, or some homeopatic Hg-remedies.

Regarding things to take which mobilizes Hg from body tissues, there
are very strong things (like DMSA/DMPS), not so strong things (like
chlorella) and weak things (like vitamin C and selenium).
I'm not saying that you shouldn't take anything that could possibly
mobilize Hg from your body tissues, I'm just warning against
overdoing things without building up your health first through diet
and (safe) supplements.
The problem is that we're all so different. You just have to try for
yourself and see what works. Always start with low dose and the
safest supplements. If you tolerate the supplements you're taking
(i.e. your symptoms are not getting worse) then it is ok to take
that supplement.

Some people don't tolerate 'sulfur-foods' and some do. (If you
don't, I suspect you have an immune response to Hg.) You just have
to try for yourself, and listen to your body's response.

Some people with many symptoms of Hg-toxicity start right away
(after amalgam removal) on the Andy Cutler DMSA protocol for Hg-
detox, taking high doses of DMSA, and they get better and better.
(They are the ones with only the toxicity and not the immune
response to Hg.) Some people can't tolerate even the smallest dose
of DMSA.

I hope you find somebody to help you. In the meantime, educate
yourself all you can.

Aslak.

--- In [hidden email], pete robinson <robbo@...> wrote:
>
> hi asiak
> that was a great post. So that brings me to the point regarding
> selenium/vitc as well. These things are chelators as well
> so one should not be supplementing with them, should they ?
> and then i shouldn't be eating anything sulphur based as well
cause
> this is chelating as well.
> I believe selenium is a chelator as well so no brazil nuts.
> Does anyone recommend anyone i could see, im in the uk and have
seen so
> many ppl now but its ok knowing whats wrong
> with you but as asiak said its getting the bloody hg out of you're
body.
> pete