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steve
My apt. bathroom was just remodeled. In addition to the sickening chemical smell I have to deal with I tested the new outlet (previously it was one from the wall lamp) and it rated so high I was getting radop signals (around 150 on my meter-my other outlets range from .5-3, although my frideg outlet rates a 30 or so).
Is there anything I can do to calm down this outlet?
Thanks,
Steve

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S Andreason
Hi Steve,

2 key words: Bathroom + outlet
= GFCI

I discovered when building our house, that some GFCI outlets are noisy,
and some put out larger magnetic fields than others. I settled on the
Eagle / Cooper brand as being safe.
I have no idea what they have done in the 6 years since.

Another interesting tidbit on GFCI outlets, is they _use_ electricuity.
Some more than others. Kinda created another whole testing table, as if
I didn't test enough things already.

Stewart


torch369 wrote:
> My apt. bathroom was just remodeled. In addition to the sickening chemical smell I have to deal with I tested the new outlet (previously it was one from the wall lamp) and it rated so high I was getting radop signals (around 150 on my meter-my other outlets range from .5-3, although my frideg outlet rates a 30 or so).
> Is there anything I can do to calm down this outlet?
> Thanks,
> Steve
>  



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steve
I had a feeling it was because it was GFCI. So now I have a new bathroom with worse emf's and allergic reactions to the particle boards or whatever used for the new door and maybe the drywall. Big mistake, I wish I had turned down the offer for the remodel

--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Steve,
>
> 2 key words: Bathroom + outlet
> = GFCI
>
> I discovered when building our house, that some GFCI outlets are noisy,
> and some put out larger magnetic fields than others. I settled on the
> Eagle / Cooper brand as being safe.
> I have no idea what they have done in the 6 years since.
>
> Another interesting tidbit on GFCI outlets, is they _use_ electricuity.
> Some more than others. Kinda created another whole testing table, as if
> I didn't test enough things already.
>
> Stewart
>
>
> torch369 wrote:
> > My apt. bathroom was just remodeled. In addition to the sickening chemical smell I have to deal with I tested the new outlet (previously it was one from the wall lamp) and it rated so high I was getting radop signals (around 150 on my meter-my other outlets range from .5-3, although my frideg outlet rates a 30 or so).
> > Is there anything I can do to calm down this outlet?
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
>


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evie15422
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Hi, Stewart,
 
What do you mean by the term, "electricuity"?  What I notice is, if any of the GFI outlets are left on, they radiate the rest of the wiring.  Is this what you mean?  Here in Pa, you must now have them in the bathroom and kitchen.  I have 5 of them.  Since I currently sleep with the electricity on all night, I have to do a sweep of the house before bed, checking for GFIs which may have been left on. 
 
I also pull the plugs for other things before bed--lamps and various appliances/ electronics.  I leave only 3 lamps plus the fridge plugged in all the time.  This may seem like a lot of work, but it makes a huge difference in the quality of my sleep and helps me to not react to more wireless and electrical things thru-out the following day(s). 
 
I also think it helps to unplug the 3 lamps (and fridge) occasionally; after a few weeks, they seem to pick up vibes which remain even when the lamps are turned off.  Are they attracting wireless frequencies which tend to remain after they are turned off?  What causes this? 
 
We have lived in this house now 5 months and I am still experimenting with things.  During the colder months, I usually killed the entire electric feed to the house at the road at night.  Other than the fridge being off all night I saw little difference, other than that (pulling the kill switch) was easier to accomplish than making the nightly rounds pulling plugs.  I was surprised about that!  Infact, having the electric coming into the house, does seem to keep wireless frequencies out a bit better, when they become a nuisance.  (That is usually during the day, however, lately I have a neighbor who got a wireless security alarm.  I have not yet tried the kill switch at the road to see what difference it makes at night with the alarm.  Our bedroom is minimally affected by the alarm system, except that I notice the fridge cycling on a bit more and see the need to unplug the fridge and lamps more often since it has been installed.)
 
BTW, I think what I may be reacting to with my electric fridge, [which I mentioned a while back lessens by pulling it out from the wall], could partially be the dirty air from it hoping onto our metal shielded wiring.  Is this a possibility?  I see the fridge frequencies are also lessened if I pull the plug on my fridge every now and again, which may have been the entire thing I saw with pulling the fridge away from the wall, actually, as I witnessed this the first time, when I moved the fridge in order to paint.  (I pulled the plug for the time it took to paint the walls there, but when I put the fridge back and plugged it back in, I kept it out from the 2 walls I painted about a foot, so the paint would get more air.)  I am much less reactive now, but I still can feel the fridge sometimes and the vibrations from it still lessen long-term if I pull the plug out every now and then for a few minutes.  I can no longer see a lessened effect
 from having the fridge out away from the wall, but it is possible that did help a tad, if dirty air from the fridge was affecting the metal wiring.  Any thoughts on any of this?  Do you or others see a difference also with unplugging appliances which appear to build-up vibes?
 
Thanks, Stewart (or anyone who has suggestions or comments),
Diane

--- On Tue, 6/28/11, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] High emf's from bathroom outlet
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 4:03 PM


 



Hi Steve,

2 key words: Bathroom + outlet
= GFCI

I discovered when building our house, that some GFCI outlets are noisy,
and some put out larger magnetic fields than others. I settled on the
Eagle / Cooper brand as being safe.
I have no idea what they have done in the 6 years since.

Another interesting tidbit on GFCI outlets, is they _use_ electricuity.
Some more than others. Kinda created another whole testing table, as if
I didn't test enough things already.

Stewart

torch369 wrote:
> My apt. bathroom was just remodeled. In addition to the sickening chemical smell I have to deal with I tested the new outlet (previously it was one from the wall lamp) and it rated so high I was getting radop signals (around 150 on my meter-my other outlets range from .5-3, although my frideg outlet rates a 30 or so).
> Is there anything I can do to calm down this outlet?
> Thanks,
> Steve
>








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steve
I notice mine has a little blue light on it whereas my mother's place has one without a light. Wonder if that makes a difference? I was thinking of plugging in the quantum home 3 strip surge thing to see if that helps. I really think it fried my blowdryer and my razor seems more powerful than before.
Steve

--- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

>
> Hi, Stewart,
>  
> What do you mean by the term, "electricuity"?  What I notice is, if any of the GFI outlets are left on, they radiate the rest of the wiring.  Is this what you mean?  Here in Pa, you must now have them in the bathroom and kitchen.  I have 5 of them.  Since I currently sleep with the electricity on all night, I have to do a sweep of the house before bed, checking for GFIs which may have been left on. 
>  
> I also pull the plugs for other things before bed--lamps and various appliances/ electronics.  I leave only 3 lamps plus the fridge plugged in all the time.  This may seem like a lot of work, but it makes a huge difference in the quality of my sleep and helps me to not react to more wireless and electrical things thru-out the following day(s). 
>  
> I also think it helps to unplug the 3 lamps (and fridge) occasionally; after a few weeks, they seem to pick up vibes which remain even when the lamps are turned off.  Are they attracting wireless frequencies which tend to remain after they are turned off?  What causes this? 
>  
> We have lived in this house now 5 months and I am still experimenting with things.  During the colder months, I usually killed the entire electric feed to the house at the road at night.  Other than the fridge being off all night I saw little difference, other than that (pulling the kill switch) was easier to accomplish than making the nightly rounds pulling plugs.  I was surprised about that!  Infact, having the electric coming into the house, does seem to keep wireless frequencies out a bit better, when they become a nuisance.  (That is usually during the day, however, lately I have a neighbor who got a wireless security alarm.  I have not yet tried the kill switch at the road to see what difference it makes at night with the alarm.  Our bedroom is minimally affected by the alarm system, except that I notice the fridge cycling on a bit more and see the need to unplug the fridge and lamps more often since it has been installed.)
>  
> BTW, I think what I may be reacting to with my electric fridge, [which I mentioned a while back lessens by pulling it out from the wall], could partially be the dirty air from it hoping onto our metal shielded wiring.  Is this a possibility?  I see the fridge frequencies are also lessened if I pull the plug on my fridge every now and again, which may have been the entire thing I saw with pulling the fridge away from the wall, actually, as I witnessed this the first time, when I moved the fridge in order to paint.  (I pulled the plug for the time it took to paint the walls there, but when I put the fridge back and plugged it back in, I kept it out from the 2 walls I painted about a foot, so the paint would get more air.)  I am much less reactive now, but I still can feel the fridge sometimes and the vibrations from it still lessen long-term if I pull the plug out every now and then for a few minutes.  I can no longer see a lessened effect
>  from having the fridge out away from the wall, but it is possible that did help a tad, if dirty air from the fridge was affecting the metal wiring.  Any thoughts on any of this?  Do you or others see a difference also with unplugging appliances which appear to build-up vibes?
>  
> Thanks, Stewart (or anyone who has suggestions or comments),
> Diane
>
> --- On Tue, 6/28/11, S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: S Andreason <sandreas41@...>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] High emf's from bathroom outlet
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 4:03 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> 2 key words: Bathroom + outlet
> = GFCI
>
> I discovered when building our house, that some GFCI outlets are noisy,
> and some put out larger magnetic fields than others. I settled on the
> Eagle / Cooper brand as being safe.
> I have no idea what they have done in the 6 years since.
>
> Another interesting tidbit on GFCI outlets, is they _use_ electricuity.
> Some more than others. Kinda created another whole testing table, as if
> I didn't test enough things already.
>
> Stewart
>
> torch369 wrote:
> > My apt. bathroom was just remodeled. In addition to the sickening chemical smell I have to deal with I tested the new outlet (previously it was one from the wall lamp) and it rated so high I was getting radop signals (around 150 on my meter-my other outlets range from .5-3, although my frideg outlet rates a 30 or so).
> > Is there anything I can do to calm down this outlet?
> > Thanks,
> > Steve
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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S Andreason
Hi Steve,


> I notice mine has a little blue light on it whereas my mother's place has one without a light. Wonder if that makes a difference?

I'd bet the blue light one is newer.
Some people don't like blue leds.
Otherwise I can't say much without testing it.

> I was thinking of plugging in the quantum home 3 strip surge thing to see if that helps.

The outlet is on the wrong side of the surge protector. The only way to
change how the GFCI operates is to turn it off at the circuit breaker.

Also btw, just popping the mini-breaker inside the GFCI does not turn it
off.

> I really think it fried my blowdryer and my razor seems more powerful than before.
>  
Just from changing a GFCI outlet??
How??

Stewart

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steve
Honestly I don't know. The outlet before was a regular outlet coming from the wall light.

--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Steve,
>
>
> > I notice mine has a little blue light on it whereas my mother's place has one without a light. Wonder if that makes a difference?
>
> I'd bet the blue light one is newer.
> Some people don't like blue leds.
> Otherwise I can't say much without testing it.
>
> > I was thinking of plugging in the quantum home 3 strip surge thing to see if that helps.
>
> The outlet is on the wrong side of the surge protector. The only way to
> change how the GFCI operates is to turn it off at the circuit breaker.
>
> Also btw, just popping the mini-breaker inside the GFCI does not turn it
> off.
>
> > I really think it fried my blowdryer and my razor seems more powerful than before.
> >  
> Just from changing a GFCI outlet??
> How??
>
> Stewart
>


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S Andreason
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Evie wrote:
> What do you mean by the term, "electricuity"?
>  

I said they use electricity Not as much as a light bulb, to be sure!,
but hook one up to an amp meter (or multi meter) and it does draw
current. Some more than others. This is not good for your power bill,
(admittedly tiny, very tiny), but is probably not good for off-grid
locations either, but of interest to me, is it's drawing of power does
make a magnetic field, which is undesirable.

> Here in Pa, you must now have them in the bathroom and kitchen.

Safety codes here too.

> before bed, checking for GFIs which may have been left on.  
>  
Turning off at the circuit breaker I hope.

> I leave only 3 lamps plus the fridge plugged in all the time.  This may seem like a lot of work, but it makes a huge difference in the quality of my sleep and helps me to not react to more wireless and electrical things thru-out the following day(s).

Good. That can be measured by electric field put out by the wiring.
While it is said the 60 hz field is not the bad part, it is at least a
carrier for the other frequencies or Noise.

> they seem to pick up vibes which remain even when the lamps are turned off.  Are they attracting wireless frequencies which tend to remain after they are turned off?
>  
By my knowledge, it should not.

Yes ungrounded wires can act like an antenna. Does that counteract my
last statement?
All I know anymore, is that I don't know enough. :)

>  from having the fridge out away from the wall, but it is possible that did help a tad, if dirty air from the fridge was affecting the metal wiring.  Any thoughts on any of this?
>  
Interesting, but no thoughts to add.
I scratch my head and depart thoughtful.

Stewart

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steve
The new outlet in the bathroom is now making a buzzing sound even when nothing is plugged into it. Wonder if this is normal?
Steve

--- In [hidden email], S Andreason <sandreas41@...> wrote:

>
> Evie wrote:
> > What do you mean by the term, "electricuity"?
> >  
>
> I said they use electricity Not as much as a light bulb, to be sure!,
> but hook one up to an amp meter (or multi meter) and it does draw
> current. Some more than others. This is not good for your power bill,
> (admittedly tiny, very tiny), but is probably not good for off-grid
> locations either, but of interest to me, is it's drawing of power does
> make a magnetic field, which is undesirable.
>
> > Here in Pa, you must now have them in the bathroom and kitchen.
>
> Safety codes here too.
>
> > before bed, checking for GFIs which may have been left on.  
> >  
> Turning off at the circuit breaker I hope.
>
> > I leave only 3 lamps plus the fridge plugged in all the time.  This may seem like a lot of work, but it makes a huge difference in the quality of my sleep and helps me to not react to more wireless and electrical things thru-out the following day(s).
>
> Good. That can be measured by electric field put out by the wiring.
> While it is said the 60 hz field is not the bad part, it is at least a
> carrier for the other frequencies or Noise.
>
> > they seem to pick up vibes which remain even when the lamps are turned off.  Are they attracting wireless frequencies which tend to remain after they are turned off?
> >  
> By my knowledge, it should not.
>
> Yes ungrounded wires can act like an antenna. Does that counteract my
> last statement?
> All I know anymore, is that I don't know enough. :)
>
> >  from having the fridge out away from the wall, but it is possible that did help a tad, if dirty air from the fridge was affecting the metal wiring.  Any thoughts on any of this?
> >  
> Interesting, but no thoughts to add.
> I scratch my head and depart thoughtful.
>
> Stewart
>