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> I'm a new member of this group and joined to give and receive support
> and advice with regard to EM sensitivity.
> I've had chronic fatigue syndrome for 11 years and although initially
> I wasn't that bad, over the years with poor management of this
> illness (and poor diet eg low protein at one point), I've become
> highly sensitive to EM radiation. Even sitting in from of my computer
> affects me, though mobile phones are worse.
> I'm looking for devices that are of reasonable cost which I can carry
> around with me which will help with protection. There are so many
> devices out there eg Qlink pendants, Bioflow devices, Bioprotect
> cards etc etc. I really don't know where to start and being a non-
> science person I find a lot of the science on this subject difficult
> to understand. I have just ordered a device specially for my Nokia
> phone...it's called a mobile phone protection bag and it's from
> Germany. I'll let you know if it helps!
> I have also just started a course at university and surrounded by
> students with mobile phones and a lot of powerful computers in the
> library which is affecting my memory and concentration quite badly,
> so if I can find something I can carry around with me that would be
> great.
> Thanks for reading!
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> Welcome!
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> I've noticed that our membership has increased by 4 members in the
> past 4 days... was this list advertised somewhere, or is this just
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> > There are so many devices out there eg Qlink pendants, Bioflow
> > devices, Bioprotect cards etc etc.
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> There *are* a lot of devices, and it seems that nobody has the
> same reaction to any of them. So something that may work
> for one person may not work for another.
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> > I really don't know where to start and being a non-
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> For me, the devices which have worked the best don't seem
> to have any "science" behind them at all. So I wouldn't
> worry too much about trying to understand how they work!
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> For me, I'm currently using Springlife Polarizers from
> Bioharmonics.com, and a power strip from QuantumProducts.com,
> plus experimenting with a new (to me) items from LightHealing.com.
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> These are all helpful to me, and combined with diet and supplements
> allow me to not have any problems with being on the computer all
> day.
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> Marc

> Hello Anne,
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> Greetings,
> Charles Claessens
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> From: "Anne" <gill_annie@y...>
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> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 22:18
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> Well, that is a possibility... although after having purchased and
> tried dozens of different EMF protection devices, I must say that
> for me, her polarizers are some of the best protective products
> I've found. That said, there are people on this who have purchased
> them and did NOT experience the same benefits that I did (although
> it sounds like a couple people did, so people's results vary).
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> > do you get refunds if they don't work?
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> I don't know what Bioharmonics policies are regarding refunds.
> Anyone here tried to return a polarizer to them?
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> > You mention 2 devices and say you might get a third....does this
> > mean the other two don't completely work?
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> I have not yet found one device that can serve as complete

> against everything for me. However, I have noticed that there are
> some devices which are so strong that I cannot stand wearing them
> for long, because of the adverse reaction I have to them. I have
> a theory that if I could build up my tolerance to these items (and
> go through the detox that they provoke while wearing them), that
> they *might* be strong enough. One such devices is the "personal
> rejuvenizer pendant" from LightHealing.com (which *does* state
> quite clearly that it has a money back guarantee). I get terrible
> muscle pains (including disturbing pains in my chest) if I wear
> this too long, so at the moment I'm merely experimenting with
> their much less expensive "cell phone rejuvenizer", which also
> has an adverse effect on me, but not quite as bad.
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> > Which is the best out of all the devices you use?
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> The device that I find myself using the most is the Springlife
> "OM pendant". I find the Slimline model to be too strong for
> me to tolerate for long periods, but I can use the OM pendant
> for 24 hours a day (although I had to limit its use during
> the first few weeks). However, I have NOT found this to
> be all that helpful for LCD flat screen monitors, which I am
> particularly sensitive, so I have simply stayed with using
> CRT monitors, which I find easier to tolerate.
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> Marc

> am not sure) that this is an effect of radiation detox, so in theory
> it should be good for you, as long as you can control your exposure.
> I've never tried a Raditech myself, as I live in the USA, and I
> *think* Raditech is for 220v/50hz.
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> > My monitor isn't too strong, it's mobile phones
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> I don't have a lot of experience with mobile phones myself, although
> I was using one extensively over a weekend a few months ago and had
> no problems with it, but I had an Aulterra sticker on the cellphone
> and a Springlife OM pendant in my pants pocket the whole time.
> I remember in the past, cell phones gave me a sharp pain in my head.
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> > Lindat says that some of these things cause anti-energy or
> > something...whereas the polarisers work in a different way. I've

> > idea what she means!!
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> She uses the phrases "bioenergy" and "anti-bioenergy", because she
> doesn't want to use standard health terminology that may put her
> at risk with government regulators. Basically, I think she means
> that polarizers encourage the body to heal itself while other
> products encourage your body to stay unhealthy. Unfortunately,
> some of these healing products put me into such a severe case
> of rapid detoxification that my liver & bladder can't handle it!
> So I've been alternating between the healing polarizers and the
> "un-healing" quantum products, which allow my body to take a
> break from detoxification.
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> > Also she suggests that the polarisers help increase resistance
> > to mercury.....this is something I also have to be aware of....
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> The polarizers seem to help me better tolerate all sorts of
> things, e.g. air pollution. So certainly it could also help
> with mercury, but don't expect any magic cure from mercury
> poisoning. At best, your body will be able to detoxify itself
> from mercury better than before, but it could still take years
> to get your mercury levels down to an acceptable level if you
> are seriously poisoned.
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> Marc

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> Hi Everyone,
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> I sent an email directly to Anne but I don't know if she received it
> as I haven't heard anything. There were a couple of points I wanted
> to make and Marc has provided an opportunity.
> The context was this:
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> -- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@u...> wrote:
>>> I sent a message to Lindat on the Bioharmonics forum and she said
>>> that NO device would help protect against EM radiation, except a
>>> Bioenergy system and pointed me to an article about mercury and
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>>> Slimline Polarisers you mentioned. How do I know if she is not
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>>> trying to sell me something.
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>> Well, that is a possibility... although after having purchased and
>> tried dozens of different EMF protection devices, I must say that
>> for me, her polarizers are some of the best protective products
>> I've found. That said, there are people on this who have purchased
>> them and did NOT experience the same benefits that I did (although
>> it sounds like a couple people did, so people's results vary).
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> I came across a pendant (a bioguard)that took away the effects I was
> having from mobile phone both my own and other peoples and from
> working on computers as well as other things that were affecting me
> through EMF I was so impressed I joined the company and now sell them
> because I know they work for me. I don't see anything wrong in
> letting people know that there are some solutions to our problems or
> some way of easing the efects of noxious things in our environment. I
> would imagine most people selling products for relief of symptoms
> feel the same way, if they have experienced the problems.
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>>> do you get refunds if they don't work?
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>> I don't know what Bioharmonics policies are regarding refunds.
>> Anyone here tried to return a polarizer to them?
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> I give a 100% refund after a three month trial if the purchaser
> doesn't feel better, I think all outlets selling devices to help with
> pain relief should do the same, I also sell magnatherapy products and
> they come with a similar guarantee.
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>>> You mention 2 devices and say you might get a third....does this
>>> mean the other two don't completely work?
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>> I have not yet found one device that can serve as complete
>> protection against everything for me. However, I have noticed that
>> there are some devices which are so strong that I cannot stand
>> wearing them for long, because of the adverse reaction I have to
>> them. ....
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> This is one of the reasons why I give a full refund, lord knows life
> is expensive enough as it is without trying a range of products and
> finding things either worse or no improvement.
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> We are a small company but our success rate with the biophone and
> bioguard is very good,(see file I posted on Esens re tests of
> Biophone, as it is with our magnatherapy products for people and
> animals. We are not very well known certainly not as well known as
> the springlife products but I think we offer a range that meets many
> peoples needs. Also there is a discount for esens members on
> www.magnatech.ik.com if you go on to the symshop and click on the
> esens section.
> I am not embarrassed to wave the flag for my product because it has
> helped me, not saying anything is like me having some sort of
> painkiller and you are in pain but I don't tell you about it. I hope
> I have not offended any of the group by posting my views.
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> Hi Andrew,
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>> My name is Andrew McAfee and I live in North Carolina, USA. I too
>> checked onto this list a week and ago didn't receive any responses so
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>> am sending another one to make sure that my connection is working.
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> Well, this message got through just fine!
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>> I would like to hear back from everyone to get an idea of how many
>> people on are on this list.
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> There are 94 people subscribed to the list.
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>> I would especially like to hear back from
>> those that are trying to get rid of cell phones at their work place. I
>> am currently in a campaign to get my work place cell phone free and
>> would like some suggestions on methods that have worked for you.
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> I think that would be a difficult task, as some people can't seem
> to live without their cell phones, or their pagers, etc. I see this
> list as more of a way for ES folks to find ways to tolerate the
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> around them, rather than trying to make others change their lifestyles.
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>> As far as the cell phone issue at work, do you have a problem with me
>> asking if anyone else has had that issue?
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> I don't have a problem with the question, or it being answered.
> I just think a "self-defense" approach is a more practical solution.
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