Hey!

Hi People!
This is for all you techies.....Is there a system that will automatically disable the wireless in a computer when you shut it down? Or do you have to manually disable the wireless function - like when you go to bed? A friend of mine thought he had heard of such a system, but to date, the only way I know is to manually disable the wireless each night, before you go to sleep.
Thanks for all your help. You guys/gals are a tremendous help to all in need of wonderful and insightful solutions/remedies.
LIzzie    

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Hi, Elizabeth. I don't think there is such a system. And if you bought your computer after 2006 or so, then it should be very easy to shut the wireless off (there should be a simple switch on the monitor or CPU). If you use a wireless router in your home, you might want to unplug that at nite, as well, as there's no sense turning off your computer's wireless if there's a router sending out signals in your home (& to your neighbors' homes).

Love & blessings,
Elysia

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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Hey!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 7:59 PM







 



 


   
     
     
     

Hi People!

This is for all you techies.....Is there a system that will automatically disable the wireless in a computer when you shut it down? Or do you have to manually disable the wireless function - like when you go to bed? A friend of mine thought he had heard of such a system, but to date, the only way I know is to manually disable the wireless each night, before you go to sleep.

Thanks for all your help. You guys/gals are a tremendous help to all in need of wonderful and insightful solutions/remedies.

LIzzie    



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I am soorry, but that is nonsense.

The only swith on a monitor is to turn the monitor on or off.

The CPU does not have a switch.

The wireless on the router must be put off, but also as well on the computer, because he will continuously be searching for the modem.

Greetings,
Charles Claessens
member Verband Baubiologie
www.milieuziektes.nl
www.milieuziektes.be
www.hetbitje.nl
checked by Norton






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  From: Elysia Drew
  To: [hidden email]
  Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!


  Hi, Elizabeth. I don't think there is such a system. And if you bought your computer after 2006 or so, then it should be very easy to shut the wireless off (there should be a simple switch on the monitor or CPU). If you use a wireless router in your home, you might want to unplug that at nite, as well, as there's no sense turning off your computer's wireless if there's a router sending out signals in your home (& to your neighbors' homes).

  Love & blessings,
  Elysia

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  Subject: [eSens] Hey!
  To: [hidden email]
  Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 7:59 PM











   


     
       
       
       

  Hi People!

  This is for all you techies.....Is there a system that will automatically disable the wireless in a computer when you shut it down? Or do you have to manually disable the wireless function - like when you go to bed? A friend of mine thought he had heard of such a system, but to date, the only way I know is to manually disable the wireless each night, before you go to sleep.

  Thanks for all your help. You guys/gals are a tremendous help to all in need of wonderful and insightful solutions/remedies.

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Sorry, I was thinking it was like a laptop. Haven't used a desktop in a while. :|


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Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 1:41 PM







 



 


   
     
     
      I am soorry, but that is nonsense.



The only swith on a monitor is to turn the monitor on or off.



The CPU does not have a switch.



The wireless on the router must be put off, but also as well on the computer, because he will continuously be searching for the modem.



Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton



----- Original Message -----

  From: Elysia Drew

  To: [hidden email]

  Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:35 PM

  Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!



Hi, Elizabeth. I don't think there is such a system. And if you bought your computer after 2006 or so, then it should be very easy to shut the wireless off (there should be a simple switch on the monitor or CPU). If you use a wireless router in your home, you might want to unplug that at nite, as well, as there's no sense turning off your computer's wireless if there's a router sending out signals in your home (& to your neighbors' homes).



Love & blessings,

  Elysia



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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>

  Subject: [eSens] Hey!

  To: [hidden email]

  Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 7:59 PM



Hi People!



This is for all you techies.....Is there a system that will automatically disable the wireless in a computer when you shut it down? Or do you have to manually disable the wireless function - like when you go to bed? A friend of mine thought he had heard of such a system, but to date, the only way I know is to manually disable the wireless each night, before you go to sleep.



Thanks for all your help. You guys/gals are a tremendous help to all in need of wonderful and insightful solutions/remedies.



LIzzie      



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Thanks for all your info...I thought as much myself.
Personally speaking, I wouldn't "own" anything wireless. But I have a friend who actually belongs to another ES site....who is living in a nightmare house (not his) that has super high ele and mag fields...which are really making him sick. I"m fairly certain that the entire community of sardine housing has the grid turned up on FRY!
 My advice since he couldn't fix that house, was to get the H_lll out of there...so he's toying with going to live with a relative, who uses a wireless laptop/or computer (dont' know which). As I'm sure some of you can relate to, trying to keep up/remember and follow all these e-mails can be a challenge for ES people...so I"m trying to help this person help themself.
Thanks for taking the time to answer me...I was pretty sure there wasn't an easy off for the wireless, but since I don't own one, I had to ask the experts, you guys. **I never even thought about the "router" part...turning that part off...it makes perfect sense.
Blessings of Many,
Lizzie
 


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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:54:22 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!


 



Sorry, I was thinking it was like a laptop. Haven't used a desktop in a while. :|

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From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 1:41 PM

 

I am soorry, but that is nonsense.

The only swith on a monitor is to turn the monitor on or off.

The CPU does not have a switch.

The wireless on the router must be put off, but also as well on the computer, because he will continuously be searching for the modem.

Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----

From: Elysia Drew

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:35 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!

Hi, Elizabeth. I don't think there is such a system. And if you bought your computer after 2006 or so, then it should be very easy to shut the wireless off (there should be a simple switch on the monitor or CPU). If you use a wireless router in your home, you might want to unplug that at nite, as well, as there's no sense turning off your computer's wireless if there's a router sending out signals in your home (& to your neighbors' homes).

Love & blessings,

Elysia

--- On Wed, 4/27/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Hey!

To: [hidden email]

Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 7:59 PM

Hi People!

This is for all you techies.....Is there a system that will automatically disable the wireless in a computer when you shut it down? Or do you have to manually disable the wireless function - like when you go to bed? A friend of mine thought he had heard of such a system, but to date, the only way I know is to manually disable the wireless each night, before you go to sleep.

Thanks for all your help. You guys/gals are a tremendous help to all in need of wonderful and insightful solutions/remedies.

LIzzie

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Hi, Elizabeth, 
 
Since you have written, the circumstance, yes, there is a help, if the relative owns a laptop.  There is likely a similar switch on a desk-top, but I have never owned one.
 
You go into your device manager on the computer [on your start menu, you click on "control panel", then when that comes up, you click on "system", then when that box opens, you click on "hardware"; and when that box opens, click on "device manager".]  In the device manager, you will want to disable your "network cards" or "network adaptors".  It is a long time since I had these cards on my computer, but I remember you *DO* want to disable all of them.  I had a broadband and a wifi card.  Both will act as antenna. 
 
Now, having said that, some laptops also have a handy-dandy switch which you can use on them to disable the wifi card.  The problem is, it only disables the one card and most computers have more than one card. 
 
Now, doing this will only take care of the computer, you also have to disconnect the router.  And, still your ES friend will likely feel some emfs from doing this, but it will help considerably.  It is just a bit of work to get in the habit of doing.  But it is not that hard and only takes a couple minutes, once you get the hang of it.  You can try it yourself on your computer--it takes only seconds to do this once you know where the cards are located.
 
I hope this helps your friend,
Diane

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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Hey!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 2:10 PM


 




Thanks for all your info...I thought as much myself.
Personally speaking, I wouldn't "own" anything wireless. But I have a friend who actually belongs to another ES site....who is living in a nightmare house (not his) that has super high ele and mag fields...which are really making him sick. I"m fairly certain that the entire community of sardine housing has the grid turned up on FRY!
My advice since he couldn't fix that house, was to get the H_lll out of there...so he's toying with going to live with a relative, who uses a wireless laptop/or computer (dont' know which). As I'm sure some of you can relate to, trying to keep up/remember and follow all these e-mails can be a challenge for ES people...so I"m trying to help this person help themself.
Thanks for taking the time to answer me...I was pretty sure there wasn't an easy off for the wireless, but since I don't own one, I had to ask the experts, you guys. **I never even thought about the "router" part...turning that part off...it makes perfect sense.
Blessings of Many,
Lizzie


To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:54:22 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!

Sorry, I was thinking it was like a laptop. Haven't used a desktop in a while. :|

--- On Thu, 4/28/11, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 1:41 PM

I am soorry, but that is nonsense.

The only swith on a monitor is to turn the monitor on or off.

The CPU does not have a switch.

The wireless on the router must be put off, but also as well on the computer, because he will continuously be searching for the modem.

Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----

From: Elysia Drew

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:35 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!

Hi, Elizabeth. I don't think there is such a system. And if you bought your computer after 2006 or so, then it should be very easy to shut the wireless off (there should be a simple switch on the monitor or CPU). If you use a wireless router in your home, you might want to unplug that at nite, as well, as there's no sense turning off your computer's wireless if there's a router sending out signals in your home (& to your neighbors' homes).

Love & blessings,

Elysia

--- On Wed, 4/27/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Hey!

To: [hidden email]

Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 7:59 PM

Hi People!

This is for all you techies.....Is there a system that will automatically disable the wireless in a computer when you shut it down? Or do you have to manually disable the wireless function - like when you go to bed? A friend of mine thought he had heard of such a system, but to date, the only way I know is to manually disable the wireless each night, before you go to sleep.

Thanks for all your help. You guys/gals are a tremendous help to all in need of wonderful and insightful solutions/remedies.

LIzzie

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Thanks....as my computer is hardwired...I didn't realize the thing with the different cards. It does make perfect sense. I will send this info onto my friend.
**Hey, here's another question i will throw out. This one is about using aluminum foil. Didn't I read somewhere on this site, that someone had used foil and wrapped it around a cord to help reduce the emf's? HOw about on a wall? Shiny side towards the wall. Anyone here have any experience with this technique?
*I had a revelation. IN my next house, if I don't build one, i'm simply going to add on an addition to the house, with NO WIRING. That will be the bedrooms. That way, there's no wiring in the ceilings, or the walls or the floors. I will do battery operated lights.
Blessings of Many,
Lizzie
 


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From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 09:57:55 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] Hey!


 



Hi, Elizabeth,  
 
Since you have written, the circumstance, yes, there is a help, if the relative owns a laptop.  There is likely a similar switch on a desk-top, but I have never owned one.
 
You go into your device manager on the computer [on your start menu, you click on "control panel", then when that comes up, you click on "system", then when that box opens, you click on "hardware"; and when that box opens, click on "device manager".]  In the device manager, you will want to disable your "network cards" or "network adaptors".  It is a long time since I had these cards on my computer, but I remember you *DO* want to disable all of them.  I had a broadband and a wifi card.  Both will act as antenna.  
 
Now, having said that, some laptops also have a handy-dandy switch which you can use on them to disable the wifi card.  The problem is, it only disables the one card and most computers have more than one card.  
 
Now, doing this will only take care of the computer, you also have to disconnect the router.  And, still your ES friend will likely feel some emfs from doing this, but it will help considerably.  It is just a bit of work to get in the habit of doing.  But it is not that hard and only takes a couple minutes, once you get the hang of it.  You can try it yourself on your computer--it takes only seconds to do this once you know where the cards are located.
 
I hope this helps your friend,
Diane

--- On Thu, 4/28/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Hey!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 2:10 PM

 

Thanks for all your info...I thought as much myself.
Personally speaking, I wouldn't "own" anything wireless. But I have a friend who actually belongs to another ES site....who is living in a nightmare house (not his) that has super high ele and mag fields...which are really making him sick. I"m fairly certain that the entire community of sardine housing has the grid turned up on FRY!
My advice since he couldn't fix that house, was to get the H_lll out of there...so he's toying with going to live with a relative, who uses a wireless laptop/or computer (dont' know which). As I'm sure some of you can relate to, trying to keep up/remember and follow all these e-mails can be a challenge for ES people...so I"m trying to help this person help themself.
Thanks for taking the time to answer me...I was pretty sure there wasn't an easy off for the wireless, but since I don't own one, I had to ask the experts, you guys. **I never even thought about the "router" part...turning that part off...it makes perfect sense.
Blessings of Many,
Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:54:22 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!

Sorry, I was thinking it was like a laptop. Haven't used a desktop in a while. :|

--- On Thu, 4/28/11, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 1:41 PM

I am soorry, but that is nonsense.

The only swith on a monitor is to turn the monitor on or off.

The CPU does not have a switch.

The wireless on the router must be put off, but also as well on the computer, because he will continuously be searching for the modem.

Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----

From: Elysia Drew

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:35 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!

Hi, Elizabeth. I don't think there is such a system. And if you bought your computer after 2006 or so, then it should be very easy to shut the wireless off (there should be a simple switch on the monitor or CPU). If you use a wireless router in your home, you might want to unplug that at nite, as well, as there's no sense turning off your computer's wireless if there's a router sending out signals in your home (& to your neighbors' homes).

Love & blessings,

Elysia

--- On Wed, 4/27/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Hey!

To: [hidden email]

Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 7:59 PM

Hi People!

This is for all you techies.....Is there a system that will automatically disable the wireless in a computer when you shut it down? Or do you have to manually disable the wireless function - like when you go to bed? A friend of mine thought he had heard of such a system, but to date, the only way I know is to manually disable the wireless each night, before you go to sleep.

Thanks for all your help. You guys/gals are a tremendous help to all in need of wonderful and insightful solutions/remedies.

LIzzie

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Hi, Elizabeth,
 
I have used aluminum foil under some different circumstances.  I made an aluminum foil room divider years ago (when I made it, it was actually for catching and dispersing more light for indoor plants).  It works under various conditions to block emfs.  And I can move it to where I want it; it isn't a permanent installation.  It is 3 doors hinged together with aluminum foil (the shiny side out) pasted to the one side of the 3 doors.  On mine, I crumpled the foil putting it on so it dispersed light different directions.  I don't know whether that makes a difference or not for emfs (over applying the foil flat to the doors). 
 
I also use aluminum foil on my car visor, but that doesn't work as well as it once did, due to the fact so many more cell towers are present.  When shielding from one, you can get caught in the middle by a tower from behind.  But I could still use it sometimes when out in the country where towers are fewer but stronger.  I don't usually have any problems now, tho, from towers.  (I am much improved ES-wise.)
 
Your idea about the wing on the house is a good one, however, we tried doing that when we remodeled an old house, but were told we were not compliant with the building code.  They insisted we at least put the wiring in the bedrooms, but we could then disconnect it.  Instead, we set up our wiring so that it could all be turned off easily at the main street (by pulling a lever) whenever we needed to disconnect it.  I don't do that now because I am better, but can when I need to. 
 
I have found, btw, for any of those of you wondering how this works for those who "recover" somewhat.....  I still can feel the emfs, they just do not usually "bug" me--they do not cause headache, or other symptoms, USUALLY.  However, it is a short trip back into bad reactions if I get ill, otherwise.  I have been fighting a spell of bronchial asthma and I can feel more emfs, and they bother me more now; not terribly, but more.  I usually return back to my prior state of not being bothered by them when I recover.  Also, detoxing of any kind will make me more sensitive again.
 
Diane
 


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From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Hey!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 10:25 PM


 




Thanks....as my computer is hardwired...I didn't realize the thing with the different cards. It does make perfect sense. I will send this info onto my friend.
**Hey, here's another question i will throw out. This one is about using aluminum foil. Didn't I read somewhere on this site, that someone had used foil and wrapped it around a cord to help reduce the emf's? HOw about on a wall? Shiny side towards the wall. Anyone here have any experience with this technique?
*I had a revelation. IN my next house, if I don't build one, i'm simply going to add on an addition to the house, with NO WIRING. That will be the bedrooms. That way, there's no wiring in the ceilings, or the walls or the floors. I will do battery operated lights.
Blessings of Many,
Lizzie


To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 09:57:55 -0700
Subject: RE: [eSens] Hey!

Hi, Elizabeth,

Since you have written, the circumstance, yes, there is a help, if the relative owns a laptop. There is likely a similar switch on a desk-top, but I have never owned one.

You go into your device manager on the computer [on your start menu, you click on "control panel", then when that comes up, you click on "system", then when that box opens, you click on "hardware"; and when that box opens, click on "device manager".] In the device manager, you will want to disable your "network cards" or "network adaptors". It is a long time since I had these cards on my computer, but I remember you *DO* want to disable all of them. I had a broadband and a wifi card. Both will act as antenna.

Now, having said that, some laptops also have a handy-dandy switch which you can use on them to disable the wifi card. The problem is, it only disables the one card and most computers have more than one card.

Now, doing this will only take care of the computer, you also have to disconnect the router. And, still your ES friend will likely feel some emfs from doing this, but it will help considerably. It is just a bit of work to get in the habit of doing. But it is not that hard and only takes a couple minutes, once you get the hang of it. You can try it yourself on your computer--it takes only seconds to do this once you know where the cards are located.

I hope this helps your friend,
Diane

--- On Thu, 4/28/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [eSens] Hey!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 2:10 PM

Thanks for all your info...I thought as much myself.
Personally speaking, I wouldn't "own" anything wireless. But I have a friend who actually belongs to another ES site....who is living in a nightmare house (not his) that has super high ele and mag fields...which are really making him sick. I"m fairly certain that the entire community of sardine housing has the grid turned up on FRY!
My advice since he couldn't fix that house, was to get the H_lll out of there...so he's toying with going to live with a relative, who uses a wireless laptop/or computer (dont' know which). As I'm sure some of you can relate to, trying to keep up/remember and follow all these e-mails can be a challenge for ES people...so I"m trying to help this person help themself.
Thanks for taking the time to answer me...I was pretty sure there wasn't an easy off for the wireless, but since I don't own one, I had to ask the experts, you guys. **I never even thought about the "router" part...turning that part off...it makes perfect sense.
Blessings of Many,
Lizzie

To: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:54:22 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!

Sorry, I was thinking it was like a laptop. Haven't used a desktop in a while. :|

--- On Thu, 4/28/11, charles <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: charles <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 1:41 PM

I am soorry, but that is nonsense.

The only swith on a monitor is to turn the monitor on or off.

The CPU does not have a switch.

The wireless on the router must be put off, but also as well on the computer, because he will continuously be searching for the modem.

Greetings,

Charles Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton

----- Original Message -----

From: Elysia Drew

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 7:35 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Hey!

Hi, Elizabeth. I don't think there is such a system. And if you bought your computer after 2006 or so, then it should be very easy to shut the wireless off (there should be a simple switch on the monitor or CPU). If you use a wireless router in your home, you might want to unplug that at nite, as well, as there's no sense turning off your computer's wireless if there's a router sending out signals in your home (& to your neighbors' homes).

Love & blessings,

Elysia

--- On Wed, 4/27/11, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>

Subject: [eSens] Hey!

To: [hidden email]

Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 7:59 PM

Hi People!

This is for all you techies.....Is there a system that will automatically disable the wireless in a computer when you shut it down? Or do you have to manually disable the wireless function - like when you go to bed? A friend of mine thought he had heard of such a system, but to date, the only way I know is to manually disable the wireless each night, before you go to sleep.

Thanks for all your help. You guys/gals are a tremendous help to all in need of wonderful and insightful solutions/remedies.

LIzzie

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Hi,
Thanks, and very interesting. I like the idea of the portable ness...and for plants, that is a really cool idea.
As for code, unless the bld has to be inspected....there shouldn't be an issue.
On another note **We have been experimenting with Tumeric capsules (organic) and by taking 3-4, with omega 3's, have found that this herb works quite well for blocking reactions from cell phones, etc.  
Also on  another note, I also found that the newer surge protection strips, cause us me problems (my head pounds at night from these) whereas, the older ones don't cause a problem. It does NOT matter if the outlet is totally fixed, wired safetly, wired with low emf MC shielded cable or not...My theory had to do with the capacitators being used in these surge protectors. I think the capacitors are bringing in a form level of dirty energy.
Any feedback on this, people?
Lizzie


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Hi, Elizabeth,
 
I have used aluminum foil under some different circumstances.  I made an aluminum foil room divider years ago (when I made it, it was actually for catching and dispersing more light for indoor plants).  It works under various conditions to block emfs.  And I can move it to where I want it; it isn't a permanent installation.  It is 3 doors hinged together with aluminum foil (the shiny side out) pasted to the one side of the 3 doors.  On mine, I crumpled the foil putting it on so it dispersed light different directions.  I don't know whether that makes a difference or not for emfs (over applying the foil flat to the doors).  
 
I also use aluminum foil on my car visor, but that doesn't work as well as it once did, due to the fact so many more cell towers are present.  When shielding from one, you can get caught in the middle by a tower from behind.  But I could still use it sometimes when out in the country where towers are fewer but stronger.  I don't usually have any problems now, tho, from towers.  (I am much improved ES-wise.)
 
Your idea about the wing on the house is a good one, however, we tried doing that when we remodeled an old house, but were told we were not compliant with the building code.  They insisted we at least put the wiring in the bedrooms, but we could then disconnect it.  Instead, we set up our wiring so that it could all be turned off easily at the main street (by pulling a lever) whenever we needed to disconnect it.  I don't do that now because I am better, but can when I need to.  
 
I have found, btw, for any of those of you wondering how this works for those who "recover" somewhat.....  I still can feel the emfs, they just do not usually "bug" me--they do not cause headache, or other symptoms, USUALLY.  However, it is a short trip back into bad reactions if I get ill, otherwise.  I have been fighting a spell of bronchial asthma and I can feel more emfs, and they bother me more now; not terribly, but more.  I usually return back to my prior state of not being bothered by them when I recover.  Also, detoxing of any kind will make me more sensitive again.
 
Diane
 

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Thanks....as my computer is hardwired...I didn't realize the thing with the different cards. It does make perfect sense. I will send this info onto my friend.
**Hey, here's another question i will throw out. This one is about using aluminum foil. Didn't I read somewhere on this site, that someone had used foil and wrapped it around a cord to help reduce the emf's? HOw about on a wall? Shiny side towards the wall. Anyone here have any experience with this technique?
*I had a revelation. IN my next house, if I don't build one, i'm simply going to add on an addition to the house, with NO WIRING. That will be the bedrooms. That way, there's no wiring in the ceilings, or the walls or the floors. I will do battery operated lights.
Blessings of Many,
Lizzie

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Hi, Elizabeth,

Since you have written, the circumstance, yes, there is a help, if the relative owns a laptop. There is likely a similar switch on a desk-top, but I have never owned one.

You go into your device manager on the computer [on your start menu, you click on "control panel", then when that comes up, you click on "system", then when that box opens, you click on "hardware"; and when that box opens, click on "device manager".] In the device manager, you will want to disable your "network cards" or "network adaptors". It is a long time since I had these cards on my computer, but I remember you *DO* want to disable all of them. I had a broadband and a wifi card. Both will act as antenna.

Now, having said that, some laptops also have a handy-dandy switch which you can use on them to disable the wifi card. The problem is, it only disables the one card and most computers have more than one card.

Now, doing this will only take care of the computer, you also have to disconnect the router. And, still your ES friend will likely feel some emfs from doing this, but it will help considerably. It is just a bit of work to get in the habit of doing. But it is not that hard and only takes a couple minutes, once you get the hang of it. You can try it yourself on your computer--it takes only seconds to do this once you know where the cards are located.

I hope this helps your friend,
Diane

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Thanks for all your info...I thought as much myself.
Personally speaking, I wouldn't "own" anything wireless. But I have a friend who actually belongs to another ES site....who is living in a nightmare house (not his) that has super high ele and mag fields...which are really making him sick. I"m fairly certain that the entire community of sardine housing has the grid turned up on FRY!
My advice since he couldn't fix that house, was to get the H_lll out of there...so he's toying with going to live with a relative, who uses a wireless laptop/or computer (dont' know which). As I'm sure some of you can relate to, trying to keep up/remember and follow all these e-mails can be a challenge for ES people...so I"m trying to help this person help themself.
Thanks for taking the time to answer me...I was pretty sure there wasn't an easy off for the wireless, but since I don't own one, I had to ask the experts, you guys. **I never even thought about the "router" part...turning that part off...it makes perfect sense.
Blessings of Many,
Lizzie

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Sorry, I was thinking it was like a laptop. Haven't used a desktop in a while. :|

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I am soorry, but that is nonsense.

The only swith on a monitor is to turn the monitor on or off.

The CPU does not have a switch.

The wireless on the router must be put off, but also as well on the computer, because he will continuously be searching for the modem.

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Hi, Elizabeth. I don't think there is such a system. And if you bought your computer after 2006 or so, then it should be very easy to shut the wireless off (there should be a simple switch on the monitor or CPU). If you use a wireless router in your home, you might want to unplug that at nite, as well, as there's no sense turning off your computer's wireless if there's a router sending out signals in your home (& to your neighbors' homes).

Love & blessings,

Elysia

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Hi People!

This is for all you techies.....Is there a system that will automatically disable the wireless in a computer when you shut it down? Or do you have to manually disable the wireless function - like when you go to bed? A friend of mine thought he had heard of such a system, but to date, the only way I know is to manually disable the wireless each night, before you go to sleep.

Thanks for all your help. You guys/gals are a tremendous help to all in need of wonderful and insightful solutions/remedies.

LIzzie

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> Also on  another note, I also found that the newer surge protection strips, cause us me problems (my head pounds at night from these) whereas, the older ones don't cause a problem. It does NOT matter if the outlet is totally fixed, wired safetly, wired with low emf MC shielded cable or not...My theory had to do with the capacitators being used in these surge protectors. I think the capacitors are bringing in a form level of dirty energy.
> Any feedback on this, people?

Ironically, I find that it is the power strips with EMI/EMR filtering that cause bad reactions.  I think this is because cheap circuitry is used that causes more problems than it solves.  The more expensive power strips with higher quality filters (like the Furman linear filtering power strips) don't cause me any problems.  Or the power strips with no filtering at all.

Marc

Hey Marc,
Did you order the Furman on line? Is it the PST-8 model? I had a radio shack one, it was oblong with slightly rounded corners...it worked great. but then it died and I bought a 60 dollar strip with high joule...nasty energy from that one. Can you tell me how the dirty energy effects you? And what's the difference betw all the other pricy ones and the linear strip? I don't mind paying the 145 bucks..I just want it to work without making my head pound..do you leave yours plugged in at night? I could leave my old one plugged in at night...the less I have to plug and unplug, the better I am.
My computer is on its own brand new circuit..properly wired, using mc cables so I'm pretty sure this time, "its not the wiring". I mean there's like a bazillion surge protector strips out there, what made you choose the furman linear?
Thanks for being so helpful.
Lizzie
 


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> Also on another note, I also found that the newer surge protection strips, cause us me problems (my head pounds at night from these) whereas, the older ones don't cause a problem. It does NOT matter if the outlet is totally fixed, wired safetly, wired with low emf MC shielded cable or not...My theory had to do with the capacitators being used in these surge protectors. I think the capacitors are bringing in a form level of dirty energy.
> Any feedback on this, people?

Ironically, I find that it is the power strips with EMI/EMR filtering that cause bad reactions. I think this is because cheap circuitry is used that causes more problems than it solves. The more expensive power strips with higher quality filters (like the Furman linear filtering power strips) don't cause me any problems. Or the power strips with no filtering at all.

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Yes, I bought the Furman power strip(s) online.  I've got PST-8's and a PST-10 (which I think is now discontinued).  

The cheaper power strips give me a sharp pain in my head -- the Stetzer filters do the same thing.

As for "why I chose Furman", if you review my past posts on power strips, you'll see that I own MANY brands of power strips, and tested them with my meters and also my reaction to them.  So it was mostly a trial & error thing.  I also like my old quantumproducts.com power strips -- in fact, these are my favorite, although I understand the ones they sell today are not the same ones that I bought 10 years ago (some have complained of off-gassing with the newer ones).

Marc

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Thanks, it was because I remembered reading your many posts on the power strips that made me realize what the problem was. As for the stetzer filters, I found an interesting article awhile back stating that those can actually cause the power to back up on the lines. The article says: "Any type of capacittive filter installed in an attempt to lower EMI, w/o the knowledge that there are wiring errors. then the field will exist as both Magnetic and Electrical fields. Basically, a stezter filter just changes the form,  not elimates. Capacitors allow energy to flow in BOTH directions, now an extremely dirty energy is going to infect the hot lead with more dirt then there was to start with."  This is from: www.emfrelief.com/capacitive-filters.html  
That;s what it felt like to me, like the energy/electricity was literally BACKING up on my wiring. Nasty energy!!!
So as much as I sympathize with all your trial and error (have had many of my own) I am VERY THANKFUL that you had posted about the power strips. And ** that I remembered having read quite a bit but at the time, I didn't truly understand. NOW I DO!
Question: to my favorite techie guru/hero Marc. Do not all power strip/surge protectors have these capacitors? Including the Furman?
Lizzie
 


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Yes, I bought the Furman power strip(s) online. I've got PST-8's and a PST-10 (which I think is now discontinued).

The cheaper power strips give me a sharp pain in my head -- the Stetzer filters do the same thing.

As for "why I chose Furman", if you review my past posts on power strips, you'll see that I own MANY brands of power strips, and tested them with my meters and also my reaction to them. So it was mostly a trial & error thing. I also like my old quantumproducts.com power strips -- in fact, these are my favorite, although I understand the ones they sell today are not the same ones that I bought 10 years ago (some have complained of off-gassing with the newer ones).

Marc

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> Do not all power strip/surge protectors have these capacitors?  Including the Furman?

The type of filters that give me problems are the "shunt capacitor" variety.  These
transfer the noise on the hot wire to the neutral wire.  Not all filters work
this way.  But most of the ones on cheap surge protectors do, I think.

Furman's marketing indicate that cheap filters may filter at one frequency
range, but then cause "spikes" at higher frequencies.  Whereas
the Furmans decrease the noise in a more "linear" (straight line) fashion,
without spikes.

Marc

I like the Furman PST8 as well, bought it on amazon after you recommended it.

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> As for the stetzer filters, I found an interesting article awhile back stating that those can actually
> cause the power to back up on the lines.

Yes, I recall reading something like that when someone pointed out the RxDNA and MxDNA noise filters.   I'm not sure exactly what people mean by power/noise "backing up" on the lines, as the way it is worded makes it sound like nonsense (to me).

BTW, did anyone here actually try an RxDNA or MxDNA filter?  They sounded interesting, but the high price tag (~ US$600) kept me away.

Marc

Yea...when you stop to think about, it does sound weird, doesn't It? I  think of a crimp in a water hose...with pressure backing up.
 
Actually, I think the correct explanation is "the current travels in both directions"- which if you look at an actual diagram of current, its not supposed to! (not that way, anyway.)
The "feeling of the power backing up is the best way I know to explain it..because I can feel and literally hear what my wiring is doing.- *although I often don't understand exactly what is happening, or the technical explanation, I just know that something is NOT right.
...in both your case and mine, the steztr filters gave us a sharp pain in our head...mine happened only when i was laying right near an outlet with a stezter filter in it. OUch! But when the house is quiet, at night, if something is not right, the energy and sounds i hear are like this: If there's something plugged in that is bringing in more dirty energy, my head will throb AND I will hear not a hum but like a draaaggg on the wiring. The throbbing I noticed (due to trial and error) can take different forms. It can be a sharp pinging throb, it can be a low ebbing throb, it can be a fast medium throb...and the sounds I hear from the wiring will either be that draaaggging sound, or even a spooky sound that for years I mistook as ghosts..but was actually BAD WIRING.  As I clean up the wiring errors, this spooky sound is gone...except if something "new" is plugged in somewhere, that is bringing or somehow amplifying wiring gone wrong. Current can piggyback, and make twin "net" currents.... this happened in my house...and the feeling I get and sounds I hear are quite distinctive. It's gotten so I don't even want to plug in anything different or new!!
When the utility company fixed the line behind mine, the ceramic insulator was broken...that cleared up quite a bit  of problems, as it was putting out some mighty high harmonics on my line and god only knows how much that situation could have played in a role in further exasperating my wiring problems.  
When I say it feels like the energy/current is backing up--its sort of like when bile backs up to your throat, that acidy feeling, you know? " Consciously most of us would recognize that "that's now how its supposed to be".
Anyway, thanks for all your input. Much appreciated.
Lizzie


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> As for the stetzer filters, I found an interesting article awhile back stating that those can actually
> cause the power to back up on the lines.

Yes, I recall reading something like that when someone pointed out the RxDNA and MxDNA noise filters. I'm not sure exactly what people mean by power/noise "backing up" on the lines, as the way it is worded makes it sound like nonsense (to me).

BTW, did anyone here actually try an RxDNA or MxDNA filter? They sounded interesting, but the high price tag (~ US$600) kept me away.

Marc


     

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> Yea...when you stop to think about, it does sound weird, doesn't It?
> I  think of a crimp in a water hose...with pressure backing up.

Well, these shunt capacitor EMI filters do "send back" the noise
along the neutral wire, so I guess it could seem like the noise
is "backing up", as prior to the filter you've now got noise on
the hot AND the neutral wire, while after the filter you've got
less noise on the hot wire.

Marc