Help, Advice needed, very worried

I had various symptoms over the last six years, and didn't decrease, PC usage.

A month ago, I bought a second hand Mac laptop from a friend of mine, two years old. I thought it was "safe." According to what I read, it was a good choice. Is it gimmick?

There has been an increase on and off of electric shock everything I touch,even plants, plastic, any objects!!

For the last two weeks, I developed more tingles and slight burning sensation on the face and arms. Last night, I forgot to switch off, and left it on my bedside table.

This morning, I couldn't touch the Mac. Strong sensation of crawling, tingles and burning in face, and arms.

I am now typing on my old PC. I am not sure if I should continue using theMac, completely, or use it less?

I have DSL broadband with a router at home. I have no plasma TV, no satellite TV, and use low emission electrical equipments. No microwave.

Can those symptoms increase/decrease with exposure?

Please help, I am taking this morning's episode and the last two weeks veryseriously.

My priority is to nip it in the bud, and stop this progressing.

> A month ago, I bought a second hand Mac laptop from a friend of mine, two
> years old. I thought it was "safe." According to what I read, it was a
> good choice. Is it gimmick?

Why did you think that laptop was "safe"? No laptop or PC is really safe,
although some are far better than others. But you'd have perform some
of your own trial & error to figure out which is the most tolerable for
you. Other people's advice may be helpful, but nobody can tell you what
is the safest computer for you. Personally, I avoid laptops as much as
I can, as I can stay further away from the CPU, hard drive, and monitor
in a desktop.

> Can those symptoms increase/decrease with exposure?

Yes, symptoms can certainly increase with increased exposure, and
decrease with decreased exposure.

Marc

Hi Marc, thanks for the advice.

I will probably sell the MAC, it seems to have increased symptoms dramatically. Looking at the Apple Mac website, it boasts of lower emission!!

It feels more comfortable now on the PC.

It makes sense to away from the CPU, monitor and hard drive. I was using it with legs crouched in bed!!  

I am swinging back and forth with detoxing, and afraid of worsening. I am now looking at several products, and found this: http://www.phpure.com/nutrition_products/heavy_metaldetox.htm
Has anyone tried it? I am also taking Ayurvedic meds, and happy to continue with those.

I am reading a book by a physicist (EMS sufferer and his whole family). The book is about DIY advice for EMS, which he uses at home. I have some contact with physics researchers and will ask their opinion. There is no commercial interest, here, and will post about it soon, asking if anyone thought of trying this.

Kooky



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> I will probably sell the MAC, it seems to have increased symptoms
> dramatically. Looking at the Apple Mac website, it boasts of lower
> emission!!

Yes, although a product may have lower emissions in a certain frequency,
that doesn't mean it's any more tolerable for one of us, as it may have
some nasty frequencies that they aren't measuring, or it may have some
chemicals that start offgassing after the computer warms up (many
people here have chemical sensitivities, too). You just have to try
it out and see.

> I am swinging back and forth with detoxing, and afraid of worsening. I
> am now looking at several products, and found this:
> http://www.phpure.com/nutrition_products/heavy_metaldetox.htm

I haven't tried that, but it looks similar to NDF. A lot of people
have problems with chlorella, so that's something to
be careful about. Although, you really need to be careful with
all forms of metal detox (start with tiny amounts!)

Marc

Thanks for the tip about chlorella, I heard that too. I read somewhere that chlorella does not actually help secrete heavy metals, redistributes instead.  

Will go back to reading "Cross Currents" and "Elecgromagnetic Fields"

It is so unpredictable, there have been very little tingling, heat, crawling and burning sensation from the PC today.

Kooky

 

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> Thanks for the tip about chlorella, I heard that too. I read somewhere
> that chlorella does not actually help secrete heavy metals,
> redistributes instead.

Still, some people report good results from taking chlorella,
for whatever reason. But yes, I'm aware that various people
(usually followers of the frequent dose chelation methods
promoted by Andy Cutler) say that taking chlorella does
more harm than good. So if you wish to make those people
happy, you'll have to take DMPS, DMSA, or alpha lipoic
acid in 3-day rounds at frequent intervals (every 8 hours
for DMPS, every 4 hours for DMSA, and every 3 hours for
ALA). And you'll probably need to subdivide capsules
and have some sort of method of reminding yourself to
take your dosage on time (I have a portable timer with
a vibrating alarm that does this for me)

Marc

When my daughter was setting me up on facebook I sat next to her & her laptop over a couple of hours & I was much worse. My skin burned for a couple of day. I learned my lesson on that. Limit your exposure to it & certainly don't fall asleep with it on next to you.
 
LOni

--- On Sat, 8/22/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Help, Advice needed, very worried
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 10:20 AM


 



> A month ago, I bought a second hand Mac laptop from a friend of mine, two
> years old. I thought it was "safe." According to what I read, it was a
> good choice. Is it gimmick?

Why did you think that laptop was "safe"? No laptop or PC is really safe,
although some are far better than others. But you'd have perform some
of your own trial & error to figure out which is the most tolerable for
you. Other people's advice may be helpful, but nobody can tell you what
is the safest computer for you. Personally, I avoid laptops as much as
I can, as I can stay further away from the CPU, hard drive, and monitor
in a desktop.

> Can those symptoms increase/decrease with exposure?

Yes, symptoms can certainly increase with increased exposure, and
decrease with decreased exposure.

Marc
















     

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Are they returnable? How can you try them out?

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Help, Advice needed, very worried
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 2:47 PM


 



> I will probably sell the MAC, it seems to have increased symptoms
> dramatically. Looking at the Apple Mac website, it boasts of lower
> emission!!

Yes, although a product may have lower emissions in a certain frequency,
that doesn't mean it's any more tolerable for one of us, as it may have
some nasty frequencies that they aren't measuring, or it may have some
chemicals that start offgassing after the computer warms up (many
people here have chemical sensitivities, too). You just have to try
it out and see.

> I am swinging back and forth with detoxing, and afraid of worsening. I
> am now looking at several products, and found this:
> http://www.phpure. com/nutrition_ products/ heavy_metaldetox .htm

I haven't tried that, but it looks similar to NDF. A lot of people
have problems with chlorella, so that's something to
be careful about. Although, you really need to be careful with
all forms of metal detox (start with tiny amounts!)

Marc
















     

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> Are they returnable? How can you try them out?

Different stores have different return policies. I bought
a computer earlier this year and ended up returning it, but
there was a 15% restocking fee. I think some stores may
have a better PC return policy.

Marc

Good to know. Good to check out that return policy especially for Us eh? Loni

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Help, Advice needed, very worried
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 9:32 AM


 



> Are they returnable? How can you try them out?

Different stores have different return policies. I bought
a computer earlier this year and ended up returning it, but
there was a 15% restocking fee. I think some stores may
have a better PC return policy.

Marc
















     

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