Hello

I would like to introduce myself. I do not have the serious effects that many of you may have. But I feel it in my body as aches pains and headachesin a deep way. My work requires computer hi speed connection and so I am looking for whatever suggestions for protection and remediation anyone can suggest that is tangible. I have tried most of the things on the market and don't know how well they really abate the frequencies. I also council clients on how to improve their health and EMF is an ever growing concern forthem as well and I want to learn all I can to help them as well. Thank you! Lynn

Hello Lynn and the EMF newsgroup.

Prevention Magazine has just released a Special Report about electrosmog and EHS and the causes. And it really is amazing what they said. At this time, the page to the article has been hacked so the page is a mess. The editors supplied one of the scientists that was interviewed ( magda havas ) with a link that works.

This is the page that has been hacked - It would be interesting to know what other people from other countries are seeing.

http://www.prevention.com/cda/inthisissue.do

This is the link to the article on Magda Havas site that has a link to the story and a video from the editor of Prevention.

http://www.magdahavas.com/2009/12/13/prevention-magazine-explains-dirty-electricity/

I went a bought a pile of copies to hand out to the disbelievers. I seems to make a difference when it comes from Prevention magazine......It's finally making it's way to the mainstream...... A nice christmas present for EHS sufferers indeed.




On 2009-12-17, at 10:33 AM, indigo wrote:

> I would like to introduce myself. I do not have the serious effects that many of you may have. But I feel it in my body as aches pains and headachesin a deep way. My work requires computer hi speed connection and so I am looking for whatever suggestions for protection and remediation anyone can suggest that is tangible. I have tried most of the things on the market and don't know how well they really abate the frequencies. I also council clients on how to improve their health and EMF is an ever growing concern for them as well and I want to learn all I can to help them as well. Thank you! Lynn
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Hi Lynn,

So do you think it is your highspeed internet connection that is causing you the most trouble? I find the highspeed internet connection is the worst when it is actually being used -- that is for downloading or uploading for extended periods of time. Also, I've found that the higher speeds of cable were worse than the lower speeds of DSL (also, there are software applications which will "throttle" your speed, and I've found that these do indeed help if you lower the peak speeds).

I have NOT found improvement by using specially shielded ethernet cables (I assume you are using ethernet and NOT wireless!).

I have found improvement by using different computers using the same high speed connection, so there is some contribution from the computer and/or the network card (perhaps a 10/100 connection is easier to tolerate than a 10/100/1000 connection? I don't know)

Also, I've had some luck with EMF protection devices with the highspeed internet -- quantum products, earthcalm, etc.

Marc


On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:33:26 -0000, "indigo" <[hidden email]> said:

The only thing i can recommend is to use a separate keyboard on your computer so you are are as far away from the EMF make sure there is a little as possible wireless in the office, cable everything for the net, and dont be near any light bulbs that flicker thats a good start.
As for gadgets out there, dont rely on them. You will improve if you give your body time to recover especially at night which is so important.
Diets, just eat heathy it cant hurt, I haven't heard of anyone out there who has found a magic pill yet?
Reki and Qi Gong helps me, cope and understand energy. 
Hope this helps.
Giles

--- On Thu, 17/12/09, indigo <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: indigo <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Hello
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 17 December, 2009, 15:33















 
 



 


   
     
     
I would like to introduce myself. I do not have the serious effects that many of you may have. But I feel it in my body as aches pains and headaches in a deep way. My work requires computer hi speed connection and soI am looking for whatever suggestions for protection and remediation anyone can suggest that is tangible. I have tried most of the things on the market and don't know how well they really abate the frequencies. I also council clients on how to improve their health and EMF is an ever growing concern for them as well and I want to learn all I can to help them as well. Thank you! Lynn





   
     

   
   


 



 











     

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Thanks Giles. I have one of the special keyboards to use with my laptop. It totally messed up the system however so I had to abandon it. I have a shield under my laptop, but I work at it all day

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Christina Steils
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:46 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello

 

 

The only thing i can recommend is to use a separate keyboard on your computer so you are are as far away from the EMF make sure there is a little as possible wireless in the office, cable everything for the net, and dont be near any light bulbs that flicker thats a good start.
As for gadgets out there, dont rely on them. You will improve if you give your body time to recover especially at night which is so important.
Diets, just eat heathy it cant hurt, I haven't heard of anyone out there who has found a magic pill yet?
Reki and Qi Gong helps me, cope and understand energy.
Hope this helps.
Giles

--- On Thu, 17/12/09, indigo <[hidden email] <mailto:lynn%40indigocenter.com> > wrote:

From: indigo <[hidden email] <mailto:lynn%40indigocenter.com> >
Subject: [eSens] Hello
To: [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, 17 December, 2009, 15:33

 

I would like to introduce myself. I do not have the serious effects that many of you may have. But I feel it in my body as aches pains and headaches in a deep way. My work requires computer hi speed connection and so I am looking for whatever suggestions for protection and remediation anyone can suggest that is tangible. I have tried most of the things on the market and don't know how well they really abate the frequencies. I also council clientson how to improve their health and EMF is an ever growing concern for themas well and I want to learn all I can to help them as well. Thank you! Lynn

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I have my wifi disabled and use ethernet. I don't understand all the
technical info though. I live way out in the country where cell towers are
not too good. A well meaning techie friend installed a cell phone
repeater/amplifier in my house. That night I experienced sleep disturbance
and cramping pain all over my body. I shut it off that night and do not use
it except when someone needs to temporarily. I think it is more the cell
phone frequencies that I am sensitive to.



I notice my fingers hurt a great deal and get cold from typing all day. I
do have a pair of shielded gloves but they are not always convenient.



Computers always misbehave or crash around me. I live in retrograde Mercury!
My son won't let me touch his! J



From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc
Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:21 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [eSens] Hello





Hi Lynn,

So do you think it is your highspeed internet connection that is causing you
the most trouble? I find the highspeed internet connection is the worst when
it is actually being used -- that is for downloading or uploading for
extended periods of time. Also, I've found that the higher speeds of cable
were worse than the lower speeds of DSL (also, there are software
applications which will "throttle" your speed, and I've found that these do
indeed help if you lower the peak speeds).

I have NOT found improvement by using specially shielded ethernet cables (I
assume you are using ethernet and NOT wireless!).

I have found improvement by using different computers using the same high
speed connection, so there is some contribution from the computer and/or the
network card (perhaps a 10/100 connection is easier to tolerate than a
10/100/1000 connection? I don't know)

Also, I've had some luck with EMF protection devices with the highspeed
internet -- quantum products, earthcalm, etc.

Marc

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:33:26 -0000, "indigo" <[hidden email]
<mailto:lynn%40indigocenter.com> > said:




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> I think it is more the cell phone frequencies that I am sensitive to.

Okay, what about the phones in your house -- are they wireless or wired?
(people here usually do better with wired phones). What about dimmer
switches -- those can cause people trouble. And energy-efficient
compact florescent lights -- these are worse than the old incandesent
lights.

And if you're using a laptop, using an external monitor, keyboard and
mouse can help merely by getting yourself further away from the laptop.
And people with lots of money can use fiber optic cables,
so some of the damaging frequencies don't travel along the wires
from your laptop to your monitor/keyboard/mouse (but this would
require digital outputs: DVI for the monitor, and USB for the keyboard
and mouse)

Marc

I am a working stiff.not lots of money! I do not have a land line.I work
with a VoiP phone. I do have a cell phone but don't keep it on me or stay
on it any longer than I have to. Yes there are dimmers about the house. I
deelectrify my bedroom at night. I do not use any of the curly
fluorescents. I do have a couple of regular fluorescent lights in the
utility room but do not stay under them.



From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Marc
Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 7:02 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [eSens] Hello





> I think it is more the cell phone frequencies that I am sensitive to.

Okay, what about the phones in your house -- are they wireless or wired?
(people here usually do better with wired phones). What about dimmer
switches -- those can cause people trouble. And energy-efficient
compact florescent lights -- these are worse than the old incandesent
lights.

And if you're using a laptop, using an external monitor, keyboard and
mouse can help merely by getting yourself further away from the laptop.
And people with lots of money can use fiber optic cables,
so some of the damaging frequencies don't travel along the wires
from your laptop to your monitor/keyboard/mouse (but this would
require digital outputs: DVI for the monitor, and USB for the keyboard
and mouse)

Marc





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