Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only thinkingof the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which I try myselfsometimes).
It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own energysystem. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to deal with it (evenif I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), including working with my own subtle but important energy system. I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you thinkof them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when it comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted approach. http://www.amazon.com/Hands-Light-Healing-Through-Energy/dp/0553345397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880749&sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Energetic-Anatomy-Illustrated-Understanding-Energy/dp/0974927104/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880905&sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Medicine-CFQ-Healing-Consciousness/dp/059521939X/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239244132&sr=8-33 The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on reviews, is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of its methodology; I'm not sure about that. And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his ability to see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel more energy, but I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. Anyway, please let me know what you think. Thanks! R. |
Energy healing has the future!!
Google under *Royal Rife*. It is a matter of lowfrequency frequencies. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "rticleone" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: [eSens] Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, thoughts? > Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only > thinking of the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which I > try myself sometimes). > > It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own > energy system. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more > subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to deal > with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), including > working with my own subtle but important energy system. > > I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you > think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when it > comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted > approach. > > http://www.amazon.com/Hands-Light-Healing-Through-Energy/dp/0553345397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880749&sr=1-1 > > http://www.amazon.com/Energetic-Anatomy-Illustrated-Understanding-Energy/dp/0974927104/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880905&sr=1-1 > > http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Medicine-CFQ-Healing-Consciousness/dp/059521939X/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239244132&sr=8-33 > > The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on reviews, > is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of its > methodology; I'm not sure about that. > > And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his ability to > see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel more energy, but > I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. > > Anyway, please let me know what you think. > > Thanks! > > R. |
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The Hands of Light refers to Barbara Brennan's work and is one of her
text books at her School of Healing now in Boca Raton, Florida. I attended it for a year when it was in McAfee, New Jersey and lived with a Brennan healer for a couple of years. They do very good work in emotional healing at the institute and as well as clearing the body/energy field of foreign entities, patching up holes, energetic chelation and much more. I wish I would of had done detoxes, amalgams removed, etc., before I started doing so much energetic healing work. Chicken and egg I guess. I wouldn't of gotten very much from the book unless I actually attended the school, did the exercises and worked with someone to facilitate my emotional processes. There is simply too much to learn, too much to process internally, too much to address without some help. Yes you can do it at your own tempo and the information is good. Living it is a different world. I don't recommend going around with your heart chakra open and loving everyone. Do you want to attract the hatred of 90% of the people that haven't done their "work" and especially those nasty little entities that love to suck on people with their field wide open? I thought I could heal people with my joyous energetic field. My arrogance was as big as my mission, big as the world. Where many of us currently are, in such a healing crisis, I now think it is better to get the base chakra, the 1st level of the field, the physical body out of danger before delving into deep emotional work and the higher levels of consciousness. Going spiritual without physical grounding is a recipe for an even deeper crisis. If the body isn't ready to process the chemical dump from the physical it isn't ready to handle the emotional dump. After an emotional dump, the physical chemical dump is profound. Where there are emotional trauma's buried in the body/field there are weaknesses in the auric/physical field and toxins, chemicals are stored there. Again chicken and egg, which to do first. Having been through all this (still going through this), I wish I would of had more physical information before handling the emotional/spiritual process. I had so much spiritual growth that I negated the physical symptoms as spiritual ones. Most of the spiritual new agers only know about karma and god's way of revealing the truth. My truth is that viruses and chemicals in combination with scalar/electrical/microwave radiation is a deadly poison and needs to be addressed on the physical level and is NOT going to be meditated away and god/spirit/guides/higher self is NOT going to take care of it if I ignore it. This is my truth and as you can tell, I am not a shaolin monk or any other chi gung master. I am a farm boy from CA who became a professional classical musician and used to consider myself extremely strong and healthy before getting my ass kicked with a mold/emf/vaccine 1-2-3 punch. My recommendation is to read up on healing the gut/ intestinal wall lining and auto-immune diseases caused by vaccines, Lyme, mycoplasmic, wheat, etc. and how to recover with homeopathic nosodes, herbs as well as raw organic foods, colostrum, coconut oil, B17, colloidal silver, krill oil, bee propolis, etc. Please do this before crashing into a huge heavy metal detox regime that will exponentially increase the microbial/bacterial/yeast growth since mercury is no longer holding them at bay. To me it is more effective/healthy and helpful to others to be a master of the physical body than to be a master of the spirit world and be a mess with your physical body, finances, and health. If you are selfish, single, wealthy and old you can focus just on your own path. Otherwise, if you are like me, are probably responsible or in relationship with another person and can't afford to screw around with being a space cadet. My monthly rant. Thanks for reading it this far. Andrew On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:16 AM, rticleone wrote: > Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only > thinking of the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which > I try myself sometimes). > > It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own > energy system. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more > subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to > deal with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), > including working with my own subtle but important energy system. > > I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you > think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when > it comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted > approach. > > http://www.amazon.com/Hands-Light-Healing-Through-Energy/dp/ > 0553345397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880749&sr=1-1 > > http://www.amazon.com/Energetic-Anatomy-Illustrated-Understanding- > Energy/dp/0974927104/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880905&sr=1-1 > > http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Medicine-CFQ-Healing-Consciousness/dp/ > 059521939X/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239244132&sr=8-33 > > The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on > reviews, is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of > its methodology; I'm not sure about that. > > And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his > ability to see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel > more energy, but I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. > > Anyway, please let me know what you think. > > Thanks! > > R. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
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My personal experience is that yoga practice helps me more than anything - both grounding & strengthening body and nervous system. That said, yoga is so trendy today that you have to shop around a little to find the practice and teacher/class that best suits you.
blessings, Paresh http://home.earthlink.net/~sunmoonyoga/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi Charles,
I have heard of Royal Rife before. Do you suggest that this could have benefit in the treatment of ES or other environmental sensitivities? I am very interested in what you have to say about it, because I've always been wary of therapeutic machines which use electromagnetic frequencies as a means of healing! This also brings me to a related question I've thought about lately - perhaps you or some others here have heard of something called a "bio-mat", or "amethyst bio-mat"...something like that. Well, someone my father knows has two of these things, and he showed them to me. They're purported to be beneficial to a number of illnesses, disorders, etc. They are electric, plugging in to a normal house outlet. The owner showed me the list of programs built into this mat, and one of them actually said "E-Smog/EMF Stress". "Eh? What the heck?," I thought. He turned the mat on, and I had my Trifield 100XE with me. The mat had a rather high electric field, and on the magnetic reading-setting, the needle jumped quite high, nearing 50 to 100 MG on the meter; you could see it bounce in a particular pattern, I guess the mat's program. So this seems like a pulsed magnetic field type of device. I couldn't help but wonder, how can a mat which carries a high electric andpulsed magnetic field directly under the person laying on it have a program that is beneficial towards dealing with stress from EMFs? What do you think? Cheers, R. --- In [hidden email], <charles@...> wrote: > > Energy healing has the future!! > > Google under *Royal Rife*. > > It is a matter of lowfrequency frequencies. > > Greetings, > Charles Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rticleone" <rticleone@...> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:16 PM > Subject: [eSens] Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, > thoughts? > > > > Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only > > thinking of the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which I > > try myself sometimes). > > > > It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own > > energy system. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more > > subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to deal > > with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), including > > working with my own subtle but important energy system. > > > > I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you > > think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when it > > comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted > > approach. > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Hands-Light-Healing-Through-Energy/dp/0553345397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880749&sr=1-1 > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Energetic-Anatomy-Illustrated-Understanding-Energy/dp/0974927104/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880905&sr=1-1 > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Medicine-CFQ-Healing-Consciousness/dp/059521939X/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239244132&sr=8-33 > > > > The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on reviews, > > is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of its > > methodology; I'm not sure about that. > > > > And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his abilityto > > see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel more energy, but > > I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. > > > > Anyway, please let me know what you think. > > > > Thanks! > > > > R. > |
We have several machines which can make Rife frequencies, (and also Hulda
Clark frequencies). The results are astounding. Energy healing has the future. For some of my customers, I give them audio CD's with frequencies against elektrosmog, and some for boosting the immune system. That systen is called *poor mans Rife*. And a number of them do have beneficial profit from them. One can make those block waves with f.i. the NCH Tone generator, and the frequencies are listed on the internet as CAFL. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "rticleone" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 7:12 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, thoughts? > Hi Charles, > > I have heard of Royal Rife before. Do you suggest that this could have > benefit in the treatment of ES or other environmental sensitivities? > > I am very interested in what you have to say about it, because I've always > been wary of therapeutic machines which use electromagnetic frequencies as > a means of healing! > > This also brings me to a related question I've thought about lately - > perhaps you or some others here have heard of something called a > "bio-mat", or "amethyst bio-mat"...something like that. > > Well, someone my father knows has two of these things, and he showed them > to me. They're purported to be beneficial to a number of illnesses, > disorders, etc. > > They are electric, plugging in to a normal house outlet. The owner showed > me the list of programs built into this mat, and one of them actually said > "E-Smog/EMF Stress". "Eh? What the heck?," I thought. > > He turned the mat on, and I had my Trifield 100XE with me. The mat had a > rather high electric field, and on the magnetic reading-setting, the > needle jumped quite high, nearing 50 to 100 MG on the meter; you could see > it bounce in a particular pattern, I guess the mat's program. So this > seems like a pulsed magnetic field type of device. > > I couldn't help but wonder, how can a mat which carries a high electric > and pulsed magnetic field directly under the person laying on it have a > program that is beneficial towards dealing with stress from EMFs? > > What do you think? > > Cheers, > > R. > > > --- In [hidden email], <charles@...> wrote: >> >> Energy healing has the future!! >> >> Google under *Royal Rife*. >> >> It is a matter of lowfrequency frequencies. >> >> Greetings, >> Charles Claessens >> member Verband Baubiologie >> www.milieuziektes.nl >> www.milieuziektes.be >> www.hetbitje.nl >> checked by Norton >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "rticleone" <rticleone@...> >> To: <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:16 PM >> Subject: [eSens] Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, >> thoughts? >> >> >> > Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only >> > thinking of the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which >> > I >> > try myself sometimes). >> > >> > It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own >> > energy system. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more >> > subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to deal >> > with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), including >> > working with my own subtle but important energy system. >> > >> > I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you >> > think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when >> > it >> > comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted >> > approach. >> > >> > http://www.amazon.com/Hands-Light-Healing-Through-Energy/dp/0553345397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880749&sr=1-1 >> > >> > http://www.amazon.com/Energetic-Anatomy-Illustrated-Understanding-Energy/dp/0974927104/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880905&sr=1-1 >> > >> > http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Medicine-CFQ-Healing-Consciousness/dp/059521939X/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239244132&sr=8-33 >> > >> > The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on >> > reviews, >> > is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of its >> > methodology; I'm not sure about that. >> > >> > And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his ability >> > to >> > see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel more energy, >> > but >> > I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. >> > >> > Anyway, please let me know what you think. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > R. >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > |
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Hi Andrew,
I was glad to read as far as the bottom of your reply! What you said perhaps more completely encompassed, then expanded upon some of my concern with particular methodology used in certain energy work; thatis, opening your chakras up. I certainly agree that when dealing with issues like an unwanted response to the artificial environment, getting yourself physically fit, outside and in, should be a primary focus. I still think that there is energy work that can be done which assists the body in a physical healing process. I suppose that the unsure part of me which had already half-discounted "Hands of Light" was thinking more of something which, while based on a subtle, invisible level, doesn't involve suchdirect "spiritual"/emotional techniques - rather, something else, whateverthat might be, even something like qigong in the Energy Medicine CFQ book or what might be covered in "Energetic Anatomy"...something still based in important subtleties with powerful benefits, that's a little more grounded,or "practical" than the all out chakra-opening style of "Hands of Light". I've nothing against love! But I can agree with you about opening yourself to everyone in that way when there's such wackness taking place at this time and you're dealing with other health issues. What say you? So, you suggest to focus on any viral/dysbyotic loads, the gut itself, and immunity prior to an aggressive metal detox, yeah? I've been working on mygut for a while - less candida fueling food, I cut out all gluten years ago, I'm sure that's helped because I know I'm intolerant of it. Any homeopathic nosodes you would suggest in particular, or is it very dependent on the individual? I have been thinking about trying a chlorella or spirulina combo for metals, but perhaps I'll hold off on that a bit longer, or try it very slowly andcautiously. No, I can't afford to be a space cadet. Which also means I need to get things right in my body and brain so I don't feel like a space cadet for thosereasons! I'm not in a relationship right now, but it might happen, and what I plan to do (go off grid, try to be independent from the system as possible) is a definite responsibility! Thank you for your extremely well worded response. It is appreciated, and if you have any more thoughts to ad, I'm listening! Best, R. --- In [hidden email], Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote: > > The Hands of Light refers to Barbara Brennan's work and is one of her > text books at her School of Healing now in Boca Raton, Florida. I > attended it for a year when it was in McAfee, New Jersey and lived with > a Brennan healer for a couple of years. > > They do very good work in emotional healing at the institute and as > well as clearing the body/energy field of foreign entities, patching up > holes, energetic chelation and much more. > I wish I would of had done detoxes, amalgams removed, etc., before I > started doing so much energetic healing work. > Chicken and egg I guess. > I wouldn't of gotten very much from the book unless I actually attended > the school, did the exercises and worked with someone to facilitate my > emotional processes. There is simply too much to learn, too much to > process internally, too much to address without some help. > Yes you can do it at your own tempo and the information is good. Living > it is a different world. > I don't recommend going around with your heart chakra open and loving > everyone. Do you want to attract the hatred of 90% of the people that > haven't done their "work" and especially those nasty little entities > that love to suck on people with their field wide open? > > I thought I could heal people with my joyous energetic field. My > arrogance was as big as my mission, big as the world. > > Where many of us currently are, in such a healing crisis, I now think > it is better to get the base chakra, the 1st level of the field, the > physical body out of danger before delving into deep emotional work and > the higher levels of consciousness. > > Going spiritual without physical grounding is a recipe for an even > deeper crisis. If the body isn't ready to process the chemical dump > from the physical it isn't ready to handle the emotional dump. After an > emotional dump, the physical chemical dump is profound. Where there > are emotional trauma's buried in the body/field there are weaknesses in > the auric/physical field and toxins, chemicals are stored there. > Again chicken and egg, which to do first. > > Having been through all this (still going through this), I wish I would > of had more physical information before handling the > emotional/spiritual process. I had so much spiritual growth that I > negated the physical symptoms as spiritual ones. Most of the spiritual > new agers only know about karma and god's way of revealing the truth. > > My truth is that viruses and chemicals in combination with > scalar/electrical/microwave radiation is a deadly poison and needs to > be addressed on the physical level and is NOT going to be meditated > away and god/spirit/guides/higher self is NOT going to take care of it > if I ignore it. > > This is my truth and as you can tell, I am not a shaolin monk or any > other chi gung master. > > I am a farm boy from CA who became a professional classical musician > and used to consider myself extremely strong and healthy before getting > my ass kicked with a mold/emf/vaccine 1-2-3 punch. > > My recommendation is to read up on healing the gut/ intestinal wall > lining and auto-immune diseases caused by vaccines, Lyme, mycoplasmic, > wheat, etc. and how to recover with homeopathic nosodes, herbs as well > as raw organic foods, colostrum, coconut oil, B17, colloidal silver, > krill oil, bee propolis, etc. > > Please do this before crashing into a huge heavy metal detox regime > that will exponentially increase the microbial/bacterial/yeast growth > since mercury is no longer holding them at bay. > > To me it is more effective/healthy and helpful to others to be a master > of the physical body than to be a master of the spirit world and be a > mess with your physical body, finances, and health. If you are selfish, > single, wealthy and old you can focus just on your own path. Otherwise, > if you are like me, are probably responsible or in relationship with > another person and can't afford to screw around with being a space > cadet. > > My monthly rant. > > Thanks for reading it this far. > > Andrew > > On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:16 AM, rticleone wrote: > > > Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only > > thinking of the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which > > I try myself sometimes). > > > > It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own > > energy system. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more > > subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to > > deal with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), > > including working with my own subtle but important energy system. > > > > I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you > > think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when > > it comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted > > approach. > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Hands-Light-Healing-Through-Energy/dp/ > > 0553345397/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880749&sr=1-1 > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Energetic-Anatomy-Illustrated-Understanding- > > Energy/dp/0974927104/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233880905&sr=1-1 > > > > http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Medicine-CFQ-Healing-Consciousness/dp/ > > 059521939X/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239244132&sr=8-33 > > > > The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on > > reviews, is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of > > its methodology; I'm not sure about that. > > > > And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his > > ability to see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel > > more energy, but I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. > > > > Anyway, please let me know what you think. > > > > Thanks! > > > > R. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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Hi Paresh,
I have considered (and been advised toward) Yoga in the past, being a bit "out there" in my head at times. I will see if something/someone good turnsup. Given the nature of many cities and towns, finding a well located studio could be as much a challenge as a suitable teacher. What do you think about practicing Yoga at home? R. --- In [hidden email], "Paresh" <sunmoonyoga@...> wrote: > > My personal experience is that yoga practice helps me more than anything - both grounding & strengthening body and nervous system. That said, yoga is so trendy today that you have to shop around a little to find the practice and teacher/class that best suits you. > blessings, > Paresh > > http://home.earthlink.net/~sunmoonyoga/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
In that regard I can advise the book *The Field* by Lynne McTaggart.
Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "rticleone" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:13 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, thoughts? > Hi Paresh, > > I have considered (and been advised toward) Yoga in the past, being a bit > "out there" in my head at times. I will see if something/someone good > turns up. Given the nature of many cities and towns, finding a well > located studio could be as much a challenge as a suitable teacher. What > do you think about practicing Yoga at home? > > R. > > --- In [hidden email], "Paresh" <sunmoonyoga@...> wrote: >> >> My personal experience is that yoga practice helps me more than >> anything - both grounding & strengthening body and nervous system. That >> said, yoga is so trendy today that you have to shop around a little to >> find the practice and teacher/class that best suits you. >> blessings, >> Paresh >> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~sunmoonyoga/ >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > |
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My thoughts on healing with "energy" medicine... for
what it's worth... I've been dealing with my ES for many years. In that time, I've easily spent more than a thousand dollars on "energy work", be it Reiki, Reconnective Healing, people trained in Barbara Brennan energy work, etc. Certainly I felt something during some of these sessions. Certainly I felt a bit better after some of these sessions. But none of these benefits lasted for very long. And given the cost of continuing to have this work done, it didn't seem like it was worth the continuing expense. Of course, if you can find something cheap, or free, then it certainly may be worth it. And with some of these things, you can learn them yourself and then "treat" yourself for free. I've pretty much opted for the "EMF protection device" method of receiving "energy work". The energy that some of these devices emit have similar benefits to energy work, except that you can use them on your schedule, for as long (or short) as you like, and while living your life at the same time. And while the upfront cost can be higher, the recurring cost is low... just buying new devices when the old ones are lost, stolen, wear out, etc. Marc |
Hiya Marc,
Yes, I was also thinking of you while typing; you are right, that devices can be another type of energy work. If I had the money, I would probably see such practitioners on a regular basis to see how it goes. Until that day comes (?), I'll explore what I can afford to do/use/treat myself with. Speaking of devices wearing out - can you give some examples? Short of physical damage to them, getting crushed or broken, I thought most such devicesare supposed to have an indefinite life, excepting ones which may use a battery and/or active circuit... Cheers, R. --- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote: > > My thoughts on healing with "energy" medicine... for > what it's worth... > > I've been dealing with my ES for many years. In that time, I've > easily spent more than a thousand dollars on "energy work", > be it Reiki, Reconnective Healing, people trained in Barbara > Brennan energy work, etc. Certainly I felt something during > some of these sessions. Certainly I felt a bit better after some > of these sessions. But none of these benefits lasted for > very long. And given the cost of continuing to have this > work done, it didn't seem like it was worth the continuing > expense. > > Of course, if you can find something cheap, or free, then > it certainly may be worth it. And with some of these things, > you can learn them yourself and then "treat" yourself for > free. > > I've pretty much opted for the "EMF protection device" > method of receiving "energy work". The energy that > some of these devices emit have similar benefits to > energy work, except that you can use them on your > schedule, for as long (or short) as you like, and > while living your life at the same time. And while > the upfront cost can be higher, the recurring cost > is low... just buying new devices when the old > ones are lost, stolen, wear out, etc. > > Marc > |
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> Speaking of devices wearing out - can you give some examples?
I'm pretty sure that the Springlife Polarizers I've bought aren't as strong now as when I first bought them. Perhaps I need to sit them out in the sun to "recharge" them? Or perhaps I've simply gotten used to them and they really are just as strong as when they were originally, but since I'm now healthier I don't notice them as much? Also, the Mega-Chi pendant is supposed to work via the pattern/artwork imprinted on them (via radionics??), and I suspect that when the pattern wears down, the pendant should no longer work (?) The Quantum Companion seems like it could break fairly easily, although I've had one working just fine for 7 years, which is rather surprising to me. And certainly I've lost a few devices over the years, including some that were in a car of mine that was stolen! But you're right -- most devices are advertised to last "forever"... Marc |
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Hi, Rticle,
I also am working (recent geriatric hippie convert that I am) on energy healing. I cannot say whether your books you have mentioned are good or not, since I have not read them. However, a month or 2 ago I mentioned a book on the subject ("Energy Medicine" by Donna Eden) which I highly recommend. It is not geared to spiritual issues like many such books (not that that is necessarily a bad thing), nor is it about one "energy system". It is an all inclusive book which covers meridians, chakras, radiant currents, the aura, the lymphatics, triple warmer.... (There are 9 energy systems discussed in all.) The author gives exercises--some you cando yourself and some need another person. These exercises run the gamutfrom detoxing your body thru lymphatic massage, unblocking meridians, correcting a reversed meridian (this happens often in people with CFS, according to the book), etc, etc, etc. It even has a section on preventing jet lag! It includes an entire chapter on emfs and es--some of the es exercises use a magnet and require another person (I have not done these, due toneeding the other person), however, the exercises I have tried do seem to help. Many of the exercises in the other chapters seem to be helping me,as well (esp lymphatic massage and like exercises). The polarity exercises help me. (If you are reading, Laurena, these exercises might also help you--the possibility exists that people who have our type of es have reversed polarity.) The book was not very expensive and I got it here: http://www.innersource.net/innersource_catalog.htm Diane --- On Thu, 4/9/09, rticleone <[hidden email]> wrote: From: rticleone <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, thoughts? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 8:16 AM Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only thinkingof the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which I try myselfsometimes). It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own energysystem. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to deal with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), including working with my own subtle but important energy system. I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when it comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted approach. http://www.amazon. com/Hands- Light-Healing- Through-Energy/ dp/0553345397/ref=sr_1_ 1?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1233880749& sr=1-1 http://www.amazon. com/Energetic- Anatomy-Illustra ted-Understandin g-Energy/ dp/0974927104/ ref=sr_1_ 1?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1233880905& sr=1-1 http://www.amazon. com/Energy- Medicine- CFQ-Healing- Consciousness/ dp/059521939X/ ref=sr_1_ 33?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1239244132& sr=8-33 The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on reviews, is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of its methodology; I'm not sure about that. And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his ability to see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel more energy, but I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. Anyway, please let me know what you think. Thanks! R. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
Hey G.H.C. (geriatric hippie convert)...I mean, Diane...
I think I've heard of that book. Thank you, I may consider checking it out. I once saw a Bowen Technique practitioner who also did some sort of "energy" (or other subtle) work. She did what she said was a kind of assessment of my energy field using two rods - it appeared that she was dowsing *me*instead of the ground for water. According to her (and the odd wobble of rods), "some things are a little bit mixed up!" (to loosely quote her). Cheers, R. --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > Hi, Rticle, > > I also am working (recent geriatric hippie convert that I am) on energy healing. I cannot say whether your books you have mentioned are good or not, since I have not read them. However, a month or 2 ago I mentioned a book on the subject ("Energy Medicine" by Donna Eden) which I highly recommend. It is not geared to spiritual issues like many such books (not that that is necessarily a bad thing), nor is it about one "energy system". It is an all inclusive book which covers meridians, chakras, radiant currents, the aura, the lymphatics, triple warmer.... (There are 9 energy systems discussed in all.) The author gives exercises--some you can do yourself and some need another person. These exercises run the gamut from detoxing your body thru lymphatic massage, unblocking meridians, correcting a reversed meridian (this happens often in people with CFS, according to the book), etc, etc, etc. It even has a section on preventing jet > lag! It includes an entire chapter on emfs and es--some of the es exercises use a magnet and require another person (I have not done these, due to needing the other person), however, the exercises I have tried do seem to help. Many of the exercises in the other chapters seem to be helping me, as well (esp lymphatic massage and like exercises). The polarity exercises help me. (If you are reading, Laurena, these exercises might also help you--the possibility exists that people who have our type of es have reversed polarity.) The book was not very expensive and I got it here: http://www.innersource.net/innersource_catalog.htm > > Diane > > --- On Thu, 4/9/09, rticleone <rticleone@...> wrote: > > From: rticleone <rticleone@...> > Subject: [eSens] Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, thoughts? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 8:16 AM > > > > > > > > > Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only thinking of the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which I try myself sometimes). > > It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own energy system. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to deal with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), including working with my own subtle but important energy system. > > I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when it comesto this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted approach. > > http://www.amazon. com/Hands- Light-Healing- Through-Energy/ dp/0553345397/ ref=sr_1_ 1?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1233880749& sr=1-1 > > http://www.amazon. com/Energetic- Anatomy-Illustra ted-Understandin g-Energy/ dp/0974927104/ ref=sr_1_ 1?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1233880905& sr=1-1 > > http://www.amazon. com/Energy- Medicine- CFQ-Healing- Consciousness/ dp/059521939X/ ref=sr_1_ 33?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1239244132& sr=8-33 > > The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on reviews,is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of its methodology; I'm not sure about that. > > And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his ability to see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel more energy, but I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. > > Anyway, please let me know what you think. > > Thanks! > > R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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LOL Andrew,
(Re your monthly rant) Thanks for the very good and informative post, btw. I got a lot from this post that I doubt you even intended. I had not even thought of "energy healing" dealing with emotions! Of course, some of it does, and in the book I have been studying there are exercises there for emotional healing, as well. That is not the part of energy healing I am dealing with at all (but thanks for the info, incase I stumbled into that). As for an open heart chakra, one of the exercises I have been doing, mentioned in the book I have, is "closing the central meridian". I have had problems with picking up the negative energies of whichyou speak--like you say happens with an open heart chakra (nothing I ever sought to have, btw)--and this does help with that. So I am working at doing the opposite of what you explained you were doing in the area of energy healing! I find the book helpful also in its explanations on how to do energy testing on yourself and others (kinesiology). I don't know how this will contribute to my health over time if I stick with it; time will tell. Thought it was worth a try. Do you also have experience with the type of energy healing I am doing? Just wondered what your opinions were, if you have any, in that regard. Thanks again, Diane --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Andrew McAfee <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, thoughts? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 9:01 AM The Hands of Light refers to Barbara Brennan's work and is one of her text books at her School of Healing now in Boca Raton, Florida. I attended it for a year when it was in McAfee, New Jersey and lived with a Brennan healer for a couple of years. They do very good work in emotional healing at the institute and as well as clearing the body/energy field of foreign entities, patching up holes, energetic chelation and much more. I wish I would of had done detoxes, amalgams removed, etc., before I started doing so much energetic healing work. Chicken and egg I guess. I wouldn't of gotten very much from the book unless I actually attended the school, did the exercises and worked with someone to facilitate my emotional processes. There is simply too much to learn, too much to process internally, too much to address without some help. Yes you can do it at your own tempo and the information is good. Living it is a different world. I don't recommend going around with your heart chakra open and loving everyone. Do you want to attract the hatred of 90% of the people that haven't done their "work" and especially those nasty little entities that love to suck on people with their field wide open? I thought I could heal people with my joyous energetic field. My arrogance was as big as my mission, big as the world. Where many of us currently are, in such a healing crisis, I now think it is better to get the base chakra, the 1st level of the field, the physical body out of danger before delving into deep emotional work and the higher levels of consciousness. Going spiritual without physical grounding is a recipe for an even deeper crisis. If the body isn't ready to process the chemical dump from the physical it isn't ready to handle the emotional dump. After an emotional dump, the physical chemical dump is profound. Where there are emotional trauma's buried in the body/field there are weaknesses in the auric/physical field and toxins, chemicals are stored there. Again chicken and egg, which to do first. Having been through all this (still going through this), I wish I would of had more physical information before handling the emotional/spiritual process. I had so much spiritual growth that I negated the physical symptoms as spiritual ones. Most of the spiritual new agers only know about karma and god's way of revealing the truth. My truth is that viruses and chemicals in combination with scalar/electrical/ microwave radiation is a deadly poison and needs to be addressed on the physical level and is NOT going to be meditated away and god/spirit/guides/ higher self is NOT going to take care of it if I ignore it. This is my truth and as you can tell, I am not a shaolin monk or any other chi gung master. I am a farm boy from CA who became a professional classical musician and used to consider myself extremely strong and healthy before getting my ass kicked with a mold/emf/vaccine 1-2-3 punch. My recommendation is to read up on healing the gut/ intestinal wall lining and auto-immune diseases caused by vaccines, Lyme, mycoplasmic, wheat, etc. and how to recover with homeopathic nosodes, herbs as well as raw organic foods, colostrum, coconut oil, B17, colloidal silver, krill oil, bee propolis, etc. Please do this before crashing into a huge heavy metal detox regime that will exponentially increase the microbial/bacterial /yeast growth since mercury is no longer holding them at bay. To me it is more effective/healthy and helpful to others to be a master of the physical body than to be a master of the spirit world and be a mess with your physical body, finances, and health. If you are selfish, single, wealthy and old you can focus just on your own path. Otherwise, if you are like me, are probably responsible or in relationship with another person and can't afford to screw around with being a space cadet. My monthly rant. Thanks for reading it this far. Andrew On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:16 AM, rticleone wrote: > Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only > thinking of the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which > I try myself sometimes). > > It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own > energy system. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more > subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to > deal with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), > including working with my own subtle but important energy system. > > I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you > think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when > it comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted > approach. > > http://www.amazon. com/Hands- Light-Healing- Through-Energy/ dp/ > 0553345397/ref= sr_1_1?ie= UTF8&s=books& qid=1233880749& sr=1-1 > > http://www.amazon. com/Energetic- Anatomy-Illustra ted-Understandin g- > Energy/dp/097492710 4/ref=sr_ 1_1?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1233880905& sr=1-1 > > http://www.amazon. com/Energy- Medicine- CFQ-Healing- Consciousness/ dp/ > 059521939X/ref= sr_1_33?ie= UTF8&s=books& qid=1239244132& sr=8-33 > > The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on > reviews, is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of > its methodology; I'm not sure about that. > > And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his > ability to see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel > more energy, but I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. > > Anyway, please let me know what you think. > > Thanks! > > R. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi again, Rticle,
I see in this post to Andrew that you mention removing glutens from your diet. I am always surprised the number of people who are not aware of all the places glutens hide (not that you are one of these people). Do you check for gluten contamination from foods packaged on non-dedicated equipment and remove glutens from your toiletries, etc? If you are having fatigue, in particular, this is something you might try. Last summer I wasill for over 2 months (barely could move I was so fatigued). I had beenremoving wallpaper and the dried gluten paste got me. I had on gloves, but I was breathing it. A couple of years ago a research paper came out which proved that people who were not recovering from celiac d were usuallybreathing glutens--often as an ingredient in dog and cat food or other animal feed. Just a thought, Diane --- On Thu, 4/9/09, rticleone <[hidden email]> wrote: From: rticleone <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, thoughts? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:11 PM Hi Andrew, I was glad to read as far as the bottom of your reply! What you said perhaps more completely encompassed, then expanded upon some of my concern with particular methodology used in certain energy work; thatis, opening your chakras up. I certainly agree that when dealing with issues like an unwanted response to the artificial environment, getting yourself physically fit, outside and in, should be a primary focus. I still think that there is energy work that can be done which assists the body in a physical healing process. I suppose that the unsure part of me which had already half-discounted "Hands of Light" was thinking more of something which, while based on a subtle, invisible level, doesn't involve such direct "spiritual"/ emotional techniques - rather, something else, whateverthat might be, even something like qigong in the Energy Medicine CFQ book or what might be covered in "Energetic Anatomy"...somethin g still based inimportant subtleties with powerful benefits, that's a little more grounded, or "practical" than the all out chakra-opening style of "Hands of Light". I've nothing against love! But I can agree with you about opening yourself to everyone in that way when there's such wackness taking place at this time and you're dealing with other health issues. What say you? So, you suggest to focus on any viral/dysbyotic loads, the gut itself, and immunity prior to an aggressive metal detox, yeah? I've been working on my gut for a while - less candida fueling food, I cut out all gluten years ago, I'm sure that's helped because I know I'm intolerant of it. Any homeopathic nosodes you would suggest in particular, or is it very dependent on the individual? I have been thinking about trying a chlorella or spirulina combo for metals, but perhaps I'll hold off on that a bit longer, or try it very slowly andcautiously. No, I can't afford to be a space cadet. Which also means I need to get things right in my body and brain so I don't feel like a space cadet for those reasons! I'm not in a relationship right now, but it might happen, and whatI plan to do (go off grid, try to be independent from the system as possible) is a definite responsibility! Thank you for your extremely well worded response. It is appreciated, and if you have any more thoughts to ad, I'm listening! Best, R. --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@. ..> wrote: > > The Hands of Light refers to Barbara Brennan's work and is one of her > text books at her School of Healing now in Boca Raton, Florida. I > attended it for a year when it was in McAfee, New Jersey and lived with > a Brennan healer for a couple of years. > > They do very good work in emotional healing at the institute and as > well as clearing the body/energy field of foreign entities, patching up > holes, energetic chelation and much more. > I wish I would of had done detoxes, amalgams removed, etc., before I > started doing so much energetic healing work. > Chicken and egg I guess. > I wouldn't of gotten very much from the book unless I actually attended > the school, did the exercises and worked with someone to facilitate my > emotional processes. There is simply too much to learn, too much to > process internally, too much to address without some help. > Yes you can do it at your own tempo and the information is good. Living > it is a different world. > I don't recommend going around with your heart chakra open and loving > everyone. Do you want to attract the hatred of 90% of the people that > haven't done their "work" and especially those nasty little entities > that love to suck on people with their field wide open? > > I thought I could heal people with my joyous energetic field. My > arrogance was as big as my mission, big as the world. > > Where many of us currently are, in such a healing crisis, I now think > it is better to get the base chakra, the 1st level of the field, the > physical body out of danger before delving into deep emotional work and > the higher levels of consciousness. > > Going spiritual without physical grounding is a recipe for an even > deeper crisis. If the body isn't ready to process the chemical dump > from the physical it isn't ready to handle the emotional dump. After an > emotional dump, the physical chemical dump is profound. Where there > are emotional trauma's buried in the body/field there are weaknesses in > the auric/physical field and toxins, chemicals are stored there. > Again chicken and egg, which to do first. > > Having been through all this (still going through this), I wish I would > of had more physical information before handling the > emotional/spiritual process. I had so much spiritual growth that I > negated the physical symptoms as spiritual ones. Most of the spiritual > new agers only know about karma and god's way of revealing the truth. > > My truth is that viruses and chemicals in combination with > scalar/electrical/ microwave radiation is a deadly poison and needs to > be addressed on the physical level and is NOT going to be meditated > away and god/spirit/guides/ higher self is NOT going to take care of it > if I ignore it. > > This is my truth and as you can tell, I am not a shaolin monk or any > other chi gung master. > > I am a farm boy from CA who became a professional classical musician > and used to consider myself extremely strong and healthy before getting > my ass kicked with a mold/emf/vaccine 1-2-3 punch. > > My recommendation is to read up on healing the gut/ intestinal wall > lining and auto-immune diseases caused by vaccines, Lyme, mycoplasmic, > wheat, etc. and how to recover with homeopathic nosodes, herbs as well > as raw organic foods, colostrum, coconut oil, B17, colloidal silver, > krill oil, bee propolis, etc. > > Please do this before crashing into a huge heavy metal detox regime > that will exponentially increase the microbial/bacterial /yeast growth > since mercury is no longer holding them at bay. > > To me it is more effective/healthy and helpful to others to be a master > of the physical body than to be a master of the spirit world and be a > mess with your physical body, finances, and health. If you are selfish, > single, wealthy and old you can focus just on your own path. Otherwise, > if you are like me, are probably responsible or in relationship with > another person and can't afford to screw around with being a space > cadet. > > My monthly rant. > > Thanks for reading it this far. > > Andrew > > On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:16 AM, rticleone wrote: > > > Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only > > thinking of the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which > > I try myself sometimes). > > > > It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own > > energy system. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more > > subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to > > deal with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), > > including working with my own subtle but important energy system. > > > > I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you > > think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when > > it comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted > > approach. > > > > http://www.amazon. com/Hands- Light-Healing- Through-Energy/ dp/ > > 0553345397/ref= sr_1_1?ie= UTF8&s=books& qid=1233880749& sr=1-1 > > > > http://www.amazon. com/Energetic- Anatomy-Illustra ted-Understandin g- > > Energy/dp/097492710 4/ref=sr_ 1_1?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1233880905& sr=1-1 > > > > http://www.amazon. com/Energy- Medicine- CFQ-Healing- Consciousness/ dp/ > > 059521939X/ref= sr_1_33?ie= UTF8&s=books& qid=1239244132& sr=8-33 > > > > The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on > > reviews, is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of > > its methodology; I'm not sure about that. > > > > And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his > > ability to see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel > > more energy, but I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. > > > > Anyway, please let me know what you think. > > > > Thanks! > > > > R. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hi, Marc,
This is what I intend to do--treat myself for free. The book I have has an accompanying DVD of exercise instructions which you can buy. I may atsome point buy it; but so far, I have been happy with the exercise instructions in the book. And you are right, the effects wear off. That iswhat you are treating when you do the exercises--the effects modern life has on your energy systems! I am probably going to end up doing both--buying the polarizer (and Quantum Companion) and doing the exercises. I have not bought those yet, however, because I am still working on seeing how much affect the exerciseshave. (I also intend to try a couple stones and crystals eventually.) Diane --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, thoughts? To: [hidden email] Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 4:48 PM My thoughts on healing with "energy" medicine... for what it's worth... I've been dealing with my ES for many years. In that time, I've easily spent more than a thousand dollars on "energy work", be it Reiki, Reconnective Healing, people trained in Barbara Brennan energy work, etc. Certainly I felt something during some of these sessions. Certainly I felt a bit better after some of these sessions. But none of these benefits lasted for very long. And given the cost of continuing to have this work done, it didn't seem like it was worth the continuing expense. Of course, if you can find something cheap, or free, then it certainly may be worth it. And with some of these things, you can learn them yourself and then "treat" yourself for free. I've pretty much opted for the "EMF protection device" method of receiving "energy work". The energy that some of these devices emit have similar benefits to energy work, except that you can use them on your schedule, for as long (or short) as you like, and while living your life at the same time. And while the upfront cost can be higher, the recurring cost is low... just buying new devices when the old ones are lost, stolen, wear out, etc. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Hey Diane,
Regarding gluten, I believe I'm totally gluten free. I read all supplementlabels, eat no regular breads, cereals or other baked goods, use no drugstore cosmetics, have no pets (though I did feed the cats at a farm last year, hmm...) - and I eat no mainstream processed, packaged foods - the healthystuff I do eat at times, always gets checked. Best, R. --- In [hidden email], Evie <evie15422@...> wrote: > > Hi again, Rticle, > > I see in this post to Andrew that you mention removing glutens from your diet. I am always surprised the number of people who are not aware of all the places glutens hide (not that you are one of these people). Do youcheck for gluten contamination from foods packaged on non-dedicated equipment and remove glutens from your toiletries, etc? If you are having fatigue, in particular, this is something you might try. Last summer I was ill for over 2 months (barely could move I was so fatigued). I had been removing wallpaper and the dried gluten paste got me. I had on gloves, but I was breathing it. A couple of years ago a research paper came out which proved that people who were not recovering from celiac d were usually breathing glutens--often as an ingredient in dog and cat food or otheranimal feed. > > Just a thought, > Diane > > --- On Thu, 4/9/09, rticleone <rticleone@...> wrote: > > From: rticleone <rticleone@...> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions,thoughts? > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:11 PM > > > > > > > > > Hi Andrew, > > I was glad to read as far as the bottom of your reply! > > What you said perhaps more completely encompassed, then expanded upon some of my concern with particular methodology used in certain energy work; that is, opening your chakras up. > > I certainly agree that when dealing with issues like an unwanted responseto the artificial environment, getting yourself physically fit, outside and in, should be a primary focus. > > I still think that there is energy work that can be done which assists the body in a physical healing process. I suppose that the unsure part of me which had already half-discounted "Hands of Light" was thinking more of something which, while based on a subtle, invisible level, doesn't involve such direct "spiritual"/ emotional techniques - rather, something else, whatever that might be, even something like qigong in the Energy Medicine CFQ book or what might be covered in "Energetic Anatomy"...somethin g still based in important subtleties with powerful benefits, that's a little more grounded, or "practical" than the all out chakra-opening style of "Hands of Light". > > I've nothing against love! But I can agree with you about opening yourself to everyone in that way when there's such wackness taking place at this time and you're dealing with other health issues. > > What say you? > > So, you suggest to focus on any viral/dysbyotic loads, the gut itself, and immunity prior to an aggressive metal detox, yeah? I've been working on my gut for a while - less candida fueling food, I cut out all gluten years ago, I'm sure that's helped because I know I'm intolerant of it. Any homeopathic nosodes you would suggest in particular, or is it very dependent on the individual? > > I have been thinking about trying a chlorella or spirulina combo for metals, but perhaps I'll hold off on that a bit longer, or try it very slowly and cautiously. > > No, I can't afford to be a space cadet. Which also means I need to get things right in my body and brain so I don't feel like a space cadet for those reasons! I'm not in a relationship right now, but it might happen, and what I plan to do (go off grid, try to be independent from the system as possible) is a definite responsibility! > > Thank you for your extremely well worded response. It is appreciated, andif you have any more thoughts to ad, I'm listening! > > Best, > > R. > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@ ..> wrote: > > > > The Hands of Light refers to Barbara Brennan's work and is one of her > > text books at her School of Healing now in Boca Raton, Florida. I > > attended it for a year when it was in McAfee, New Jersey and lived with > > a Brennan healer for a couple of years. > > > > They do very good work in emotional healing at the institute and as > > well as clearing the body/energy field of foreign entities, patching up > > holes, energetic chelation and much more. > > I wish I would of had done detoxes, amalgams removed, etc., before I > > started doing so much energetic healing work. > > Chicken and egg I guess. > > I wouldn't of gotten very much from the book unless I actually attended > > the school, did the exercises and worked with someone to facilitate my > > emotional processes. There is simply too much to learn, too much to > > process internally, too much to address without some help. > > Yes you can do it at your own tempo and the information is good. Living > > it is a different world. > > I don't recommend going around with your heart chakra open and loving > > everyone. Do you want to attract the hatred of 90% of the people that > > haven't done their "work" and especially those nasty little entities > > that love to suck on people with their field wide open? > > > > I thought I could heal people with my joyous energetic field. My > > arrogance was as big as my mission, big as the world. > > > > Where many of us currently are, in such a healing crisis, I now think > > it is better to get the base chakra, the 1st level of the field, the > > physical body out of danger before delving into deep emotional work and > > the higher levels of consciousness. > > > > Going spiritual without physical grounding is a recipe for an even > > deeper crisis. If the body isn't ready to process the chemical dump > > from the physical it isn't ready to handle the emotional dump. After an > > emotional dump, the physical chemical dump is profound. Where there > > are emotional trauma's buried in the body/field there are weaknesses in > > the auric/physical field and toxins, chemicals are stored there. > > Again chicken and egg, which to do first. > > > > Having been through all this (still going through this), I wish I would > > of had more physical information before handling the > > emotional/spiritual process. I had so much spiritual growth that I > > negated the physical symptoms as spiritual ones. Most of the spiritual > > new agers only know about karma and god's way of revealing the truth. > > > > My truth is that viruses and chemicals in combination with > > scalar/electrical/ microwave radiation is a deadly poison and needs to > > be addressed on the physical level and is NOT going to be meditated > > away and god/spirit/guides/ higher self is NOT going to take care of it > > if I ignore it. > > > > This is my truth and as you can tell, I am not a shaolin monk or any > > other chi gung master. > > > > I am a farm boy from CA who became a professional classical musician > > and used to consider myself extremely strong and healthy before getting > > my ass kicked with a mold/emf/vaccine 1-2-3 punch. > > > > My recommendation is to read up on healing the gut/ intestinal wall > > lining and auto-immune diseases caused by vaccines, Lyme, mycoplasmic, > > wheat, etc. and how to recover with homeopathic nosodes, herbs as well > > as raw organic foods, colostrum, coconut oil, B17, colloidal silver, > > krill oil, bee propolis, etc. > > > > Please do this before crashing into a huge heavy metal detox regime > > that will exponentially increase the microbial/bacterial /yeast growth > > since mercury is no longer holding them at bay. > > > > To me it is more effective/healthy and helpful to others to be a master > > of the physical body than to be a master of the spirit world and be a > > mess with your physical body, finances, and health. If you are selfish, > > single, wealthy and old you can focus just on your own path. Otherwise, > > if you are like me, are probably responsible or in relationship with > > another person and can't afford to screw around with being a space > > cadet. > > > > My monthly rant. > > > > Thanks for reading it this far. > > > > Andrew > > > > On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:16 AM, rticleone wrote: > > > > > Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only > > > thinking of the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which > > > I try myself sometimes). > > > > > > It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own > > > energy system. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more > > > subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to > > > deal with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), > > > including working with my own subtle but important energy system. > > > > > > I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you > > > think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when > > > it comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted > > > approach. > > > > > > http://www.amazon. com/Hands- Light-Healing- Through-Energy/ dp/ > > > 0553345397/ref= sr_1_1?ie= UTF8&s=books& qid=1233880749& sr=1-1 > > > > > > http://www.amazon. com/Energetic- Anatomy-Illustra ted-Understandin g- > > > Energy/dp/097492710 4/ref=sr_ 1_1?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1233880905& sr=1-1 > > > > > > http://www.amazon. com/Energy- Medicine- CFQ-Healing- Consciousness/ dp/ > > > 059521939X/ref= sr_1_33?ie= UTF8&s=books& qid=1239244132& sr=8-33 > > > > > > The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on > > > reviews, is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of > > > its methodology; I'm not sure about that. > > > > > > And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his > > > ability to see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel > > > more energy, but I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. > > > > > > Anyway, please let me know what you think. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
Lol re GHC, Rticle,
Still laughing from that one! Good to hear--you seem to know more than most about where gluten is. Gees, some people think all they have to do is cut down on donuts, cake, and pasta! lol (One woman I know didn't know why she felt so bad--she only ate birthday cake at parties! lololol) I eat mainly fresh foods--nothing processed, except occasional organic potato chips and corn tortillas. But more often than not, it is the non-food glutens that get me into trouble. Okay, caught up with email and gonna shut up now! ;) Diane --- On Tue, 4/14/09, rticleone <[hidden email]> wrote: From: rticleone <[hidden email]> Subject: [eSens] Re: Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions, thoughts? To: [hidden email] Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:37 PM Hey Diane, Regarding gluten, I believe I'm totally gluten free. I read all supplement labels, eat no regular breads, cereals or other baked goods, use no drugstore cosmetics, have no pets (though I did feed the cats at a farm last year,hmm...) - and I eat no mainstream processed, packaged foods - the healthy stuff I do eat at times, always gets checked. Best, R. --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Evie <evie15422@. ..> wrote: > > Hi again, Rticle, > > I see in this post to Andrew that you mention removing glutens from your diet. I am always surprised the number of people who are not aware of all the places glutens hide (not that you are one of these people). Do youcheck for gluten contamination from foods packaged on non-dedicated equipment and remove glutens from your toiletries, etc? If you are having fatigue, in particular, this is something you might try. Last summer I was ill for over 2 months (barely could move I was so fatigued). I had been removing wallpaper and the dried gluten paste got me. I had on gloves, but I was breathing it. A couple of years ago a research paper came out which proved that people who were not recovering from celiac d were usually breathing glutens--often as an ingredient in dog and cat food or otheranimal feed. > > Just a thought, > Diane > > --- On Thu, 4/9/09, rticleone <rticleone@. ..> wrote: > > From: rticleone <rticleone@. ..> > Subject: [eSens] Re: Healing with "energy medicine" - books, suggestions,thoughts? > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com > Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:11 PM > > > > > > > > > Hi Andrew, > > I was glad to read as far as the bottom of your reply! > > What you said perhaps more completely encompassed, then expanded upon some of my concern with particular methodology used in certain energy work; that is, opening your chakras up. > > I certainly agree that when dealing with issues like an unwanted responseto the artificial environment, getting yourself physically fit, outside and in, should be a primary focus. > > I still think that there is energy work that can be done which assists the body in a physical healing process. I suppose that the unsure part of me which had already half-discounted "Hands of Light" was thinking more of something which, while based on a subtle, invisible level, doesn't involve such direct "spiritual"/ emotional techniques - rather, something else, whatever that might be, even something like qigong in the Energy Medicine CFQ book or what might be covered in "Energetic Anatomy"...somethin g still based in important subtleties with powerful benefits, that's a little more grounded, or "practical" than the all out chakra-opening style of "Hands of Light". > > I've nothing against love! But I can agree with you about opening yourself to everyone in that way when there's such wackness taking place at this time and you're dealing with other health issues. > > What say you? > > So, you suggest to focus on any viral/dysbyotic loads, the gut itself, and immunity prior to an aggressive metal detox, yeah? I've been working on my gut for a while - less candida fueling food, I cut out all gluten years ago, I'm sure that's helped because I know I'm intolerant of it. Any homeopathic nosodes you would suggest in particular, or is it very dependent on the individual? > > I have been thinking about trying a chlorella or spirulina combo for metals, but perhaps I'll hold off on that a bit longer, or try it very slowly and cautiously. > > No, I can't afford to be a space cadet. Which also means I need to get things right in my body and brain so I don't feel like a space cadet for those reasons! I'm not in a relationship right now, but it might happen, and what I plan to do (go off grid, try to be independent from the system as possible) is a definite responsibility! > > Thank you for your extremely well worded response. It is appreciated, andif you have any more thoughts to ad, I'm listening! > > Best, > > R. > > --- In eSens@yahoogroups. com, Andrew McAfee <amcafeerr@ ..> wrote: > > > > The Hands of Light refers to Barbara Brennan's work and is one of her > > text books at her School of Healing now in Boca Raton, Florida. I > > attended it for a year when it was in McAfee, New Jersey and lived with > > a Brennan healer for a couple of years. > > > > They do very good work in emotional healing at the institute and as > > well as clearing the body/energy field of foreign entities, patching up > > holes, energetic chelation and much more. > > I wish I would of had done detoxes, amalgams removed, etc., before I > > started doing so much energetic healing work. > > Chicken and egg I guess. > > I wouldn't of gotten very much from the book unless I actually attended > > the school, did the exercises and worked with someone to facilitate my > > emotional processes. There is simply too much to learn, too much to > > process internally, too much to address without some help. > > Yes you can do it at your own tempo and the information is good. Living > > it is a different world. > > I don't recommend going around with your heart chakra open and loving > > everyone. Do you want to attract the hatred of 90% of the people that > > haven't done their "work" and especially those nasty little entities > > that love to suck on people with their field wide open? > > > > I thought I could heal people with my joyous energetic field. My > > arrogance was as big as my mission, big as the world. > > > > Where many of us currently are, in such a healing crisis, I now think > > it is better to get the base chakra, the 1st level of the field, the > > physical body out of danger before delving into deep emotional work and > > the higher levels of consciousness. > > > > Going spiritual without physical grounding is a recipe for an even > > deeper crisis. If the body isn't ready to process the chemical dump > > from the physical it isn't ready to handle the emotional dump. After an > > emotional dump, the physical chemical dump is profound. Where there > > are emotional trauma's buried in the body/field there are weaknesses in > > the auric/physical field and toxins, chemicals are stored there. > > Again chicken and egg, which to do first. > > > > Having been through all this (still going through this), I wish I would > > of had more physical information before handling the > > emotional/spiritual process. I had so much spiritual growth that I > > negated the physical symptoms as spiritual ones. Most of the spiritual > > new agers only know about karma and god's way of revealing the truth. > > > > My truth is that viruses and chemicals in combination with > > scalar/electrical/ microwave radiation is a deadly poison and needs to > > be addressed on the physical level and is NOT going to be meditated > > away and god/spirit/guides/ higher self is NOT going to take care of it > > if I ignore it. > > > > This is my truth and as you can tell, I am not a shaolin monk or any > > other chi gung master. > > > > I am a farm boy from CA who became a professional classical musician > > and used to consider myself extremely strong and healthy before getting > > my ass kicked with a mold/emf/vaccine 1-2-3 punch. > > > > My recommendation is to read up on healing the gut/ intestinal wall > > lining and auto-immune diseases caused by vaccines, Lyme, mycoplasmic, > > wheat, etc. and how to recover with homeopathic nosodes, herbs as well > > as raw organic foods, colostrum, coconut oil, B17, colloidal silver, > > krill oil, bee propolis, etc. > > > > Please do this before crashing into a huge heavy metal detox regime > > that will exponentially increase the microbial/bacterial /yeast growth > > since mercury is no longer holding them at bay. > > > > To me it is more effective/healthy and helpful to others to be a master > > of the physical body than to be a master of the spirit world and be a > > mess with your physical body, finances, and health. If you are selfish, > > single, wealthy and old you can focus just on your own path. Otherwise, > > if you are like me, are probably responsible or in relationship with > > another person and can't afford to screw around with being a space > > cadet. > > > > My monthly rant. > > > > Thanks for reading it this far. > > > > Andrew > > > > On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:16 AM, rticleone wrote: > > > > > Alright you bunch of hippies, listen up! (I joke, I joke; I'm only > > > thinking of the recent hugging trees to ground yourself threads, which > > > I try myself sometimes). > > > > > > It's obvious that all this EMR isn't exactly good for the body's own > > > energy system. I think it can affect on subtle physical and even more > > > subtle levels, and I'm willing to try whatever I can to be able to > > > deal with it (even if I am escaping to somewhere less saturated), > > > including working with my own subtle but important energy system. > > > > > > I've found a few books I like the sound of. Please, tell me what you > > > think of them, any other ones, or what experience any of you have when > > > it comes to this sort of thing. I think this will take a multifaceted > > > approach. > > > > > > http://www.amazon. com/Hands- Light-Healing- Through-Energy/ dp/ > > > 0553345397/ref= sr_1_1?ie= UTF8&s=books& qid=1233880749& sr=1-1 > > > > > > http://www.amazon. com/Energetic- Anatomy-Illustra ted-Understandin g- > > > Energy/dp/097492710 4/ref=sr_ 1_1?ie=UTF8& s=books&qid= 1233880905& sr=1-1 > > > > > > http://www.amazon. com/Energy- Medicine- CFQ-Healing- Consciousness/ dp/ > > > 059521939X/ref= sr_1_33?ie= UTF8&s=books& qid=1239244132& sr=8-33 > > > > > > The only things about the first two I'm not sure about, based on > > > reviews, is that "Hands Of Light" seems to use "channeling" as part of > > > its methodology; I'm not sure about that. > > > > > > And one reviewer for "Energetic Anatomy" says he's improved his > > > ability to see and *feel* energy. Hmm. I'm not sure I want to feel > > > more energy, but I suppose it matters what kind we're talking about. > > > > > > Anyway, please let me know what you think. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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