Look at the clock speed of the ULV chips - they're
relatively low at 1 Ghz. There's nothing more evil about ultra portable computers than conventional ones. The switching power supplies these days are most likely running at faster rates for more efficiency. So you are right in the sense that more efficient equals higher frequencies. But being concerned about the lower voltage for the ULV processor is nonsense. You should get yourself an EMF meter - one that measures magnetic fields at a minimum. Then you can go to Best Buy and compare the various computers. The meter won't tell you everything but it can help steer you in the right direction. Energy star doesn't really help as a guide. I've been fried by NEC LCD monitors that are energy star rated. Eli --- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@...> wrote: > > > > Thanks for the suggestions. I wish I had a deeper understanding of how computers work so I could truly understand exactly how a particular processor would influence on a computer's EMF. > > I'm a bit confused as to whether or not "low voltage", and "low power" would actually translate to a tolerable computer experience. I thought that "low voltage" often involves AC/DC converters that produce a lot of troubling high-frequency "transients", and would lead to EMFs in that bothersome high-frequency range. > > Is that "Energy Star" distinction that many computers have really a good thing for electrosensitives? "Energy Star" devices may consume less power,or less voltage - and (allegedly) shave dollars off our electric bills - but at what cost to our comfort and health? Are "Energy Star" products justwolves in sheeps' clothing? Do they compensate for "power conservation" by producing (super) high-frequency EMF? > > ~Svetaswan > > --- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I too get headaches from computer use... no fun. > > If you push yourself too hard it will only get > > worse. > > > > WiFry router, your self defeating. > > > > In one sense it's a good time to be shopping for > > a laptop since intel just released their new 2010 > > core family of chips. I'd look for an ultraportable > > with either of the following ultra-low-voltage chips, > > 1.2GHz Core i7-640UM, 1.06GHz Core i7-620UM and > > 1.06GHz Core i5-520UM. Either that or the lowest power > > tower you can find. > > > > I'd run the laptop on its battery, keep it at a distance > > then get a monitor that emits the lowest magnetic field > > Some have had success with BenQ. > > > > There's no easy fix, and it's nothing to rush into. > > > > Eli > > > > > |
It is not only the magnetic fields, but more the *dirty air* that is
emitting from a number of electrica; appliances. Greetings, Charles Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "jaime_schunkewitz" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Have some decisions to make - help appreciated > Look at the clock speed of the ULV chips - they're > relatively low at 1 Ghz. There's nothing more evil > about ultra portable computers than conventional > ones. > > The switching power supplies these days are > most likely running at faster rates for more > efficiency. So you are right in the sense that > more efficient equals higher frequencies. But > being concerned about the lower voltage for the ULV > processor is nonsense. > > You should get yourself an EMF meter - one that > measures magnetic fields at a minimum. Then you can > go to Best Buy and compare the various computers. > The meter won't tell you everything but it can help > steer you in the right direction. > > Energy star doesn't really help as a guide. I've been > fried by NEC LCD monitors that are energy star rated. > > Eli > > --- In [hidden email], "svetaswan" <svetaswan@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks for the suggestions. I wish I had a deeper understanding of how >> computers work so I could truly understand exactly how a particular >> processor would influence on a computer's EMF. >> >> I'm a bit confused as to whether or not "low voltage", and "low power" >> would actually translate to a tolerable computer experience. I thought >> that "low voltage" often involves AC/DC converters that produce a lot of >> troubling high-frequency "transients", and would lead to EMFs in that >> bothersome high-frequency range. >> >> Is that "Energy Star" distinction that many computers have really a good >> thing for electrosensitives? "Energy Star" devices may consume less >> power, or less voltage - and (allegedly) shave dollars off our electric >> bills - but at what cost to our comfort and health? Are "Energy Star" >> products just wolves in sheeps' clothing? Do they compensate for "power >> conservation" by producing (super) high-frequency EMF? >> >> ~Svetaswan >> >> --- In [hidden email], "jaime_schunkewitz" <jaime_schunkewitz@> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > I too get headaches from computer use... no fun. >> > If you push yourself too hard it will only get >> > worse. >> > >> > WiFry router, your self defeating. >> > >> > In one sense it's a good time to be shopping for >> > a laptop since intel just released their new 2010 >> > core family of chips. I'd look for an ultraportable >> > with either of the following ultra-low-voltage chips, >> > 1.2GHz Core i7-640UM, 1.06GHz Core i7-620UM and >> > 1.06GHz Core i5-520UM. Either that or the lowest power >> > tower you can find. >> > >> > I'd run the laptop on its battery, keep it at a distance >> > then get a monitor that emits the lowest magnetic field >> > Some have had success with BenQ. >> > >> > There's no easy fix, and it's nothing to rush into. >> > >> > Eli >> > >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > |
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Hi All,
Here's an update on my Asrock Ion 330 HT. I have the 4GB memory upgrade. A few days in the PC is turning out to be a great purchase, EMF and dirty electricity readings have kept very low. It comes out at 1.5ish on the 0-3 magnetic range on a Trifield meter. Nothing coming out of radio or electric ranges. Remember I've turned off the Wi-fi. I did find this annoyed me physically, and I always steer clear of Wi-fi. The dirty electricity readings on the stetzer monitor come out no higher than the base of the house. I've tried this by comparing the reading I have with all my sockets turned off, bar the one in use for the meter, and compared this against the one socket in use for the PC. It's a great little PC, not only for normal PC use but also for reducing EMF exposures. Regards David From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of svetaswan Sent: 02 February 2010 04:03 To: [hidden email] Subject: [eSens] Re: Have some decisions to make - help appreciated --- In [hidden email] <mailto:eSens%40yahoogroups.com> , "David Clover" <davidc6162@...> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I've just bought an Asrock Nettop Ion 330 HT. It works with an Nvidia > ion. I've turned off the Wi-fi aspec as I will continue to use a broadband > modem. So far, I've only got round to taking readings from it, and haven't > had a chance to use it for a prolonged period. (It arrived yesterday > morning!!!) > > > > Using a Trifield meter, magnetic reading comes out to be 2-3. And that's > even when I have all my peripherals on. E.g. usb hard drive, speakers, > modem etc. That's half my old PC readings of 5-6. > > > > Using a stetzer monitor, Dirty electricity readings do not increase above > the reading for my house at all. So, even when it is functional, it shows > reading of 90-100. If I had a 100% clean electricity reading across my > house I reckon it would be less than this! > > > > My old PC was coming out at 500-700 even when I had a series of stetzer > filters plugged in. Without them it was coming out at 1400-1800. > > > > So, even though it's very early days, the indications point to a very low > EMF PC. > > > > Regards > > > > David > > > Sounds promising! Will you keep me posted on how things are going with this computer? I want to thank everyone for their help/suggestions regarding my dilemma...I'm certainly taking everything into consideration as I struggle to make a decision. The main reason I haven't been able to respond sooner to you guys' suggestions is that (*grimace*) - my home Internet connection still hasn't been repaired. To make a long story short, Comcast's service has been absolutely pathetic - it's been a nightmare of misinformation, unprofessionalism, infuriating lapses, etc.. I just discovered today that this frustrating situation may be a blessing-in-disguise (let's *hope* something positive comes out of this). My parents may be switching to another Internet provider, which may give me the opportunity to have wired Internet installed. My options in this matter have been pretty limited because I'm not in control of the household - my parents are who are in control, and I'm a "slave" to their values and beliefs (or non-beliefs). As of now, they don't believe in the hazards of EMF and Wifi - whenever I attempt to alert them about this and share with them how the laptop has affected me, they pretty much dismiss me as a ranting, paranoid, "crazy" person. However, I'm hoping that some compromise can be struck where they can have their WiFi, while some wired alternative can be installed in my room (and hopefully the den). It won't completely shield me from WiFi, of course - but at least it could potentially reduce my exposure by enabling me to shut off any internal WiFi components installed in the computer I use. ~Svetaswan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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