HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves

Hi everyone,

Where do I start.... my son (19 years old) has been having headaches, migraines, nausea, vomiting, difficulty sleeping and a sense of unease for years. Not all at once and all to varying degrees. He was diagnosed with a calcified cyst near the pineal gland a few years back with accounted for many of his symptoms.

However, his sense of unease has recently increased to the point where he has moved out to his fathers house. He wants to come home, but does not understand why he feels "weird" and does not want to alone here.

Well, I believe that I figured out the problem - it just dawned on me last night. He has a small bedroom - 10x10. The main circuit breaker box for my condo is in that room, the intake for the air conditioner is just out side his bedroom door, we have high voltage power lines across the street and add to all of this his TV, Xbox, radio, cell phone charge etc. I believe he is suffering from EMF's in his room. He wants to find a solution to this so he can come back home and is willing to try anything - including swapping his room for our smaller guest room if that is what it takes.

I have someone coming to my house tomorrow to do some EMF readings to try and confirm this theory.

Does anyone on this sight have experience with EMF Neutralizers? How do they work? I believe in the problems that EMF's can cause ( I just don't know why it never occurred that his room could be such a problem) but I am skeptical about the neutralizers. I would like him to be able to stay in his room, so a neutralizer would be a great option - I just need convincing before I spend money on it and, more importantly, trust my sons well being to it.

Please help us here, my son wants to come home to be with us - and his dog.

Any advice and knowledge are sincerely welcome.

Pam

puk replies - think also about neighbours swamping you with wifi, dect  
phones, cell phones, external cell phone antenna plus the likely currupted
power  quality that will be present in your house say from digital equipment
such as  set top boxes, plasma and other TVs - lets see what the EMF
investigator picks  up, but you can try the simple AM radio method on your mains in
the house, ie  get a cheap battery powered radio tune out in the first
instance to white noise  at end of AM spectrum on the dial approx 1600khz and see
if the radio goes  balistic, dont forget that it may be quiet sometimes and
crazy on another  ocassion due to intermittent use of appliances as mentioned
- bassically you  need to clue yourself up on Electrosensitivity asap and
start doing the basics  which dont cost that much.
 
puk uk
 
 
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Hi everyone,

Where do I start.... my son (19 years old) has been  having headaches,
migraines, nausea, vomiting, difficulty sleeping and a sense  of unease for
years. Not all at once and all to varying degrees. He was  diagnosed with a
calcified cyst near the pineal gland a few years back with  accounted for many
of his symptoms.

However, his sense of unease has  recently increased to the point where he
has moved out to his fathers house.  He wants to come home, but does not
understand why he feels "weird" and does  not want to alone here.

Well, I believe that I figured out the problem  - it just dawned on me last
night. He has a small bedroom - 10x10. The main  circuit breaker box for my
condo is in that room, the intake for the air  conditioner is just out side
his bedroom door, we have high voltage power  lines across the street and
add to all of this his TV, Xbox, radio, cell phone  charge etc. I believe he
is suffering from EMF's in his room. He wants to find  a solution to this so
he can come back home and is willing to try anything -  including swapping
his room for our smaller guest room if that is what it  takes.

I have someone coming to my house tomorrow to do some EMF  readings to try
and confirm this theory.

Does anyone on this sight have  experience with EMF Neutralizers? How do the
y work? I believe in the problems  that EMF's can cause ( I just don't know
why it never occurred that his room  could be such a problem) but I am
skeptical about the neutralizers. I would  like him to be able to stay in his
room, so a neutralizer would be a great  option - I just need convincing
before I spend money on it and, more  importantly, trust my sons well being to
it.

Please help us here, my  son wants to come home to be with us - and his
dog.

Any advice and  knowledge are sincerely welcome.

Pam





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Hi Pam,

EPK In Vegas wrote:
> Where do I start.... my son (19 years old) has been having headaches, migraines, nausea, vomiting, difficulty sleeping and a sense of unease for years.
You describe what we have. It is good you are finding out your son is
not alone, and I hope you find the answers you seek.
Electro hyper sensitivity is a growing problem.

> Not all at once and all to varying degrees.
Because the cause is EMF pollution in your environment, and that changes
with your location, and with what bad devices are turned on nearby.

> He wants to come home, but does not understand why he feels "weird" and does not want to alone here.
>  

If his fathers house is a cleaner environment, emf wise, than help him
accept he may never be able to come "home."
Some here have reduced their symptoms enough to be "normal" again,
although only a very few can act like emf don't bother them anymore. If
you can search the archives of this forum, you will find a lot of
advice. The biggest and easiest strategy is "avoidance." Then work on
improving health, and the immune system, and detox, because he may be
burdened with heavy metals. That seems to be a key factor in triggering EHS.


> Well, I believe that I figured out the problem - it just dawned on me last night. He has a small bedroom - 10x10. The main circuit breaker box for my condo is in that room, the intake for the air conditioner is just out side his bedroom door, we have high voltage power lines across the street and add to all of this his TV, Xbox, radio, cell phone charge etc.
>  
You describe the perfect toxic soup. The same environment that started
my trouble.
High magnetic field, electric field, and pulsed devices putting out
noise (that can usually be detected with a simple AM radio), and
microwaves from the cell phone. You didn't mention any WiFi or DECT, as
they are the worst of microwave exposure.

> I have someone coming to my house tomorrow to do some EMF readings to try and confirm this theory.
>  
Good. You are lucky to live near someone with those skills and
collection of meters. Am I right?

> Does anyone on this sight have experience with EMF Neutralizers?

I have only heard that name once before, and I'm not sure what device
you describe. Sounds like Graham-Stetzer filters?

Stewart
http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html

> > Does anyone on this sight have experience with EMF Neutralizers?
>
> I have only heard that name once before, and I'm not sure what device
> you describe. Sounds like Graham-Stetzer filters?

"EMF Neutralizers" might be a generic term for one of the hundreds
of EMF protection devices sold on the market.  As someone who has
purchased far more of these than anyone should :-), I can say that
most of them have NOT been helpful at all.  However, there have
been a few items that I have continued to use because I can see
obvious benefits in using them.  However, those benefits don't
seem to necessarily to apply to everyone, so it's a very hit-and-miss
thing, and depends on your specific environments and your specific
sensitivities.

Of course, the first step for ES is to eliminate the nastiest
local sources of the problem.  However, if you've got high
voltage power lines and a circuit breaker box nearby, that
is something that might require moving.  :-(  Potentially
easier things to change include replacing all florescent
lights with the older incandescent lights, replace all
dimmer switches with on/off switches, replace wireless
telephones with wired telephones, replace wireless internet
with wired internet, replace all plasma TVs with LCD TVs,
and you may have to simply try various versions of some
electronics to find some that provoke fewer symptoms --
for example, I went through 5 Bluray players until I
found one that didn't make me ill.  And the same problem
can occur for cellphones, computers, DVRs, etc.  Also,
reducing your exposure to being nearby anything metal
should help -- this includes removing metal dental
work, replacing metal bedframe with wood, and replacing
a metal innerspring mattress with something without
metal in it (latex, air mattress, futon, etc.)

The long-term approach is to improve nutrition and
remove toxins that have built up in the body, which
will make him less sensitive.  But this takes a lot
of time and trial/error, and even with that some
people don't succeed (as there are some things that
people just aren't willing to do, or cannot afford
to do).

Marc

 I feel so bad for your son Pam. I can't seem to sleep in a bedroom either. I sleep in the Family Room in the middle of the room on an air mattress & I turn the electric off at night otherwise I would fry.
 
I don't think that room will ever work for him from what you've told me. Can he transfer to another bedroom? Do you have a smart meter? That is not going to work for your son I don't think.
 
What has helped me is a suppliment called Prevagen. It is a brain suppliment for memory but it also helps the nervous system. Couldn't sleep in the house at all until i started this suppliment.
 
Maybe you should try it with him. You need to reduce the exposure as much as you can. The gadgets have not really worked for me except for the Q Link a little with the computer.
 
Loni

--- On Sat, 3/19/11, S Andreason <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 7:35 AM


 



Hi Pam,

EPK In Vegas wrote:
> Where do I start.... my son (19 years old) has been having headaches, migraines, nausea, vomiting, difficulty sleeping and a sense of unease for years.
You describe what we have. It is good you are finding out your son is
not alone, and I hope you find the answers you seek.
Electro hyper sensitivity is a growing problem.

> Not all at once and all to varying degrees.
Because the cause is EMF pollution in your environment, and that changes
with your location, and with what bad devices are turned on nearby.

> He wants to come home, but does not understand why he feels "weird" and does not want to alone here.
>

If his fathers house is a cleaner environment, emf wise, than help him
accept he may never be able to come "home."
Some here have reduced their symptoms enough to be "normal" again,
although only a very few can act like emf don't bother them anymore. If
you can search the archives of this forum, you will find a lot of
advice. The biggest and easiest strategy is "avoidance." Then work on
improving health, and the immune system, and detox, because he may be
burdened with heavy metals. That seems to be a key factor in triggering EHS.

> Well, I believe that I figured out the problem - it just dawned on me last night. He has a small bedroom - 10x10. The main circuit breaker box for my condo is in that room, the intake for the air conditioner is just out side his bedroom door, we have high voltage power lines across the street and add to all of this his TV, Xbox, radio, cell phone charge etc.
>
You describe the perfect toxic soup. The same environment that started
my trouble.
High magnetic field, electric field, and pulsed devices putting out
noise (that can usually be detected with a simple AM radio), and
microwaves from the cell phone. You didn't mention any WiFi or DECT, as
they are the worst of microwave exposure.

> I have someone coming to my house tomorrow to do some EMF readings to try and confirm this theory.
>
Good. You are lucky to live near someone with those skills and
collection of meters. Am I right?

> Does anyone on this sight have experience with EMF Neutralizers?

I have only heard that name once before, and I'm not sure what device
you describe. Sounds like Graham-Stetzer filters?

Stewart
http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html









     

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Thanks to everyone who has applied so far. Hopefully in about 6 months this will all be a non issue as we are selling the condo and buying a house. I will be more aware of the setup in a new house.

While his fathers house may be cleaner with less EMF's it is NOT a happy house and he is miserable there in other ways. Talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place.

I feel terrible that he has had these issues for years and it never occurred to me that this could be the root of the problem in his room.

We do have another room for him to move into, so we are discussing that. When the readers come today I am going to have them take measurements in all rooms. What levels should I be looking at? I don't want to rely solely on the word of the company that is coming out to take measurements, and there is not much info out there on what levels are "ok". He seems to be okay in other areas of the house. What is considered a good low (I know, ZERO would be best).

Thanks so much for your support. Lot's of research to do.....

Pam

> What levels should I be looking at? I don't want to rely
> solely on the word of the company that is coming out to take
> measurements, and there is not much info out there on what levels are
> "ok".

I think sometimes people react to EMF that doesn't even show up on
meters.  Or at least, the meters that most people use.  So you really
have to judge things by how your son feels, and also be aware of the
various EMF sources, including what may be on the other side of the
wall, or down the block, etc.  And again, being in close proximity
to metal (or having metal in or on your person) just makes things
much worse.

Marc

Pam,
 
We are (EHS people) more sensitive than any meter. I have found that out so you can't really judge on the measurement.
 
When buying a new house you need to avoid if possible the smart meter. Don't know if it is possible but here I have a prepay analog meter that I switched out from the smart meter. It was life threatening for me.
 
Loni

--- On Sat, 3/19/11, EPK In Vegas <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: EPK In Vegas <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 11:01 AM


 



Thanks to everyone who has applied so far. Hopefully in about 6 months this will all be a non issue as we are selling the condo and buying a house. I will be more aware of the setup in a new house.

While his fathers house may be cleaner with less EMF's it is NOT a happy house and he is miserable there in other ways. Talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place.

I feel terrible that he has had these issues for years and it never occurred to me that this could be the root of the problem in his room.

We do have another room for him to move into, so we are discussing that. When the readers come today I am going to have them take measurements in all rooms. What levels should I be looking at? I don't want to rely solely on the word of the company that is coming out to take measurements, and there is not much info out there on what levels are "ok". He seems to be okay in other areas of the house. What is considered a good low (I know, ZERO would be best).

Thanks so much for your support. Lot's of research to do.....

Pam









     

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Thanks Marc, right on! Plus aren't there so many different types of signals & you need to have a meter for each one? 
 
Pam, Your son is your meter!  Loni

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 11:14 AM


 



> What levels should I be looking at? I don't want to rely
> solely on the word of the company that is coming out to take
> measurements, and there is not much info out there on what levels are
> "ok".

I think sometimes people react to EMF that doesn't even show up on
meters. Or at least, the meters that most people use. So you really
have to judge things by how your son feels, and also be aware of the
various EMF sources, including what may be on the other side of the
wall, or down the block, etc. And again, being in close proximity
to metal (or having metal in or on your person) just makes things
much worse.

Marc








     

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Don't know if it will help. Our utility co. said an option to have the smart meter wired to the end of the property. We're going to do that until can come up w others.

Kathy



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Loni,

I'm sorry for your son too.  I think it's worse for the kids, they have their life ahead of them.
Ginger helps nausea. Anyone try magnesium w a small amount of cal?

I can't sleep in our bedroom, in the living-room on the couch - not comfortable & has metal in it, not good. .

 Loni what kind of air mattress to you use? I have chemical sensitivities, new things can smell. . Did you let it off  gas? Cant' swing an organic bed now.

Kathy

From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves







 



 


   
     
     
       I feel so bad for your son Pam. I can't seem to sleep in a bedroom either. I sleep in the Family Room in the middle of the room on an air mattress & I turn the electric off at night otherwise I would fry.

 

I don't think that room will ever work for him from what you've told me. Can he transfer to another bedroom? Do you have a smart meter? That is not going to work for your son I don't think.

 

What has helped me is a suppliment called Prevagen. It is a brain suppliment for memory but it also helps the nervous system. Couldn't sleep in the house at all until i started this suppliment.

 

Maybe you should try it with him. You need to reduce the exposure as much as you can. The gadgets have not really worked for me except for the Q Link a little with the computer.

 

Loni







From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves

To: [hidden email]

Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 7:35 AM



 



Hi Pam,



EPK In Vegas wrote:

> Where do I start.... my son (19 years old) has been having headaches, migraines, nausea, vomiting, difficulty sleeping and a sense of unease for years.

You describe what we have. It is good you are finding out your son is

not alone, and I hope you find the answers you seek.

Electro hyper sensitivity is a growing problem.



> Not all at once and all to varying degrees.

Because the cause is EMF pollution in your environment, and that changes

with your location, and with what bad devices are turned on nearby.



> He wants to come home, but does not understand why he feels "weird" and does not want to alone here.

>



If his fathers house is a cleaner environment, emf wise, than help him

accept he may never be able to come "home."

Some here have reduced their symptoms enough to be "normal" again,

although only a very few can act like emf don't bother them anymore. If

you can search the archives of this forum, you will find a lot of

advice. The biggest and easiest strategy is "avoidance." Then work on

improving health, and the immune system, and detox, because he may be

burdened with heavy metals. That seems to be a key factor in triggering EHS.



> Well, I believe that I figured out the problem - it just dawned on me last night. He has a small bedroom - 10x10. The main circuit breaker box for my condo is in that room, the intake for the air conditioner is just out side his bedroom door, we have high voltage power lines across the street and add to all of this his TV, Xbox, radio, cell phone charge etc.

>

You describe the perfect toxic soup. The same environment that started

my trouble.

High magnetic field, electric field, and pulsed devices putting out

noise (that can usually be detected with a simple AM radio), and

microwaves from the cell phone. You didn't mention any WiFi or DECT, as

they are the worst of microwave exposure.



> I have someone coming to my house tomorrow to do some EMF readings to try and confirm this theory.

>

Good. You are lucky to live near someone with those skills and

collection of meters. Am I right?



> Does anyone on this sight have experience with EMF Neutralizers?



I have only heard that name once before, and I'm not sure what device

you describe. Sounds like Graham-Stetzer filters?



Stewart

http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html



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Wow....

I am learning so much from this site. My son goes over to his fathers house after school (he is in school for Criminal Justice) and spends every other weekend over there to help take care of him. So many times he comes home from there with headaches and nausea. It never occurred to me until I read one of the previous posts what could be causing that. They have wifi over there and a large satellite dish.

I also read on another site that EMF's can cause issues with the pineal gland, which is what produces melatonin - this is what helps us sleep. Brenden has issues sleeping but we attributed that to the fact that he does have a calcified cyst near the pineal gland. So we have been giving him melatonin supplements to help him sleep.

Soooo.... is the cyst causing him to be more sensitive to EMF's, did the EMF's cause the cyst? Is it the EMF's causing his sleep disorder or the cyst? Each new item learned creates new questions.

The bottom line, no matter what came first - the cyst or the EMF's - the EMF's are the trigger to it all now.

Eddie - my "other half" - is great with wood. I have a wooden platform bed in my room, so no box spring. He can make a wooden platform bed for Brenden and then we can get a different type of mattress.

Brenden and I spoke about this earlier this week (He is out of town with his cousins this weekend) and he seemed open to all of this being a problem. But how to you convince a 19 year old who has grown up in the electronic age how bad all of this could truly be?

Thank you all so much for answering my questions, allowing me to vent and ramble.

I joined two other groups on Yahoo and so far you are the only group who has responded and your answers, patience and insights have really helped.

Pam

> Soooo.... is the cyst causing him to be more sensitive to EMF's, did the
> EMF's cause the cyst? Is it the EMF's causing his sleep disorder or the
> cyst? Each new item learned creates new questions.

Yes, and even we (who have been reading about this for years) don't
have all the answers!  I have seen articles about pineal gland calcification
leading to EMF sensitivity, although I haven't seen much about that
discussed here.  There may even be ways to de-calcify a pineal gland...?

> Eddie - my "other half" - is great with wood. I have a wooden platform
> bed in my room, so no box spring. He can make a wooden platform bed for
> Brenden and then we can get a different type of mattress.

The only non-EMF concern with a new bed frame and mattress is the
offgassing of wood varnishes or fire retardants in the mattress.  That
is, assuming that your son might be sensitive to chemicals as
well? (a common occurrence for those with ES).  But there do exist
low/non-offgassing versions of almost everything...

> But how to you convince a 19 year old who has grown up in the
> electronic age how bad all of this could truly be?

Well, there is a certain amount of importance in feeling well,
so that usually is convincing enough.  Although there can be
workarounds for some electronics that they cannot live without
(although I'm not sure about these new 3G/4G Smart Phones)

Marc

Hi Kathy,
 
The air mattress is just something I picked up at Walmart. i did off gas it for a while but it doesn't bother me now. I cover it with a mattress pad & then a fitted sheet too. Sleep in the middle of the family room away from the electric in the walls. I do turn off the electric at night. Do you do that Kathy?  I love the air mattress. Also the prevagen I'm taking.
 
Loni

--- On Sat, 3/19/11, KathyB <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: KathyB <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:09 PM


 



Loni,

I'm sorry for your son too.  I think it's worse for the kids, they have their life ahead of them.
Ginger helps nausea. Anyone try magnesium w a small amount of cal?

I can't sleep in our bedroom, in the living-room on the couch - not comfortable & has metal in it, not good. .

 Loni what kind of air mattress to you use? I have chemical sensitivities, new things can smell. . Did you let it off  gas? Cant' swing an organic bed now.

Kathy

From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves

 

 I feel so bad for your son Pam. I can't seem to sleep in a bedroom either. I sleep in the Family Room in the middle of the room on an air mattress & I turn the electric off at night otherwise I would fry.

 

I don't think that room will ever work for him from what you've told me. Can he transfer to another bedroom? Do you have a smart meter? That is not going to work for your son I don't think.

 

What has helped me is a suppliment called Prevagen. It is a brain suppliment for memory but it also helps the nervous system. Couldn't sleep in the house at all until i started this suppliment.

 

Maybe you should try it with him. You need to reduce the exposure as much as you can. The gadgets have not really worked for me except for the Q Link a little with the computer.

 

Loni

From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves

To: [hidden email]

Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 7:35 AM

 

Hi Pam,

EPK In Vegas wrote:

> Where do I start.... my son (19 years old) has been having headaches, migraines, nausea, vomiting, difficulty sleeping and a sense of unease for years.

You describe what we have. It is good you are finding out your son is

not alone, and I hope you find the answers you seek.

Electro hyper sensitivity is a growing problem.

> Not all at once and all to varying degrees.

Because the cause is EMF pollution in your environment, and that changes

with your location, and with what bad devices are turned on nearby.

> He wants to come home, but does not understand why he feels "weird" and does not want to alone here.

>

If his fathers house is a cleaner environment, emf wise, than help him

accept he may never be able to come "home."

Some here have reduced their symptoms enough to be "normal" again,

although only a very few can act like emf don't bother them anymore. If

you can search the archives of this forum, you will find a lot of

advice. The biggest and easiest strategy is "avoidance." Then work on

improving health, and the immune system, and detox, because he may be

burdened with heavy metals. That seems to be a key factor in triggering EHS.

> Well, I believe that I figured out the problem - it just dawned on me last night. He has a small bedroom - 10x10. The main circuit breaker box for my condo is in that room, the intake for the air conditioner is just out side his bedroom door, we have high voltage power lines across the street and add to all of this his TV, Xbox, radio, cell phone charge etc.

>

You describe the perfect toxic soup. The same environment that started

my trouble.

High magnetic field, electric field, and pulsed devices putting out

noise (that can usually be detected with a simple AM radio), and

microwaves from the cell phone. You didn't mention any WiFi or DECT, as

they are the worst of microwave exposure.

> I have someone coming to my house tomorrow to do some EMF readings to try and confirm this theory.

>

Good. You are lucky to live near someone with those skills and

collection of meters. Am I right?

> Does anyone on this sight have experience with EMF Neutralizers?

I have only heard that name once before, and I'm not sure what device

you describe. Sounds like Graham-Stetzer filters?

Stewart

http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html

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Hey Pam,
 
Glad we all are helping you. The melatonin does so much more than help us sleep. I was listening to a doc on the radio who was saying that you should take it to detoxify radiation. He was talking about what you should do nutritionally if exposed to the fallout.
 
Melatonin was a key tip. So I'm wondering if it could detoxify emf's we are exposed to?
The thing about melatonin is,if I'm not mistaken,  you can turn off your own bodies production of it which is not good. Research that because you certainly don't want that to happen.
 
You could try calcium/magnesium suppliments to help him sleep as well. Will relax him.
 
Loni
 
 
--- On Sat, 3/19/11, EPK In Vegas <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: EPK In Vegas <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:29 PM


 



Wow....

I am learning so much from this site. My son goes over to his fathers house after school (he is in school for Criminal Justice) and spends every other weekend over there to help take care of him. So many times he comes home from there with headaches and nausea. It never occurred to me until I read one of the previous posts what could be causing that. They have wifi over there and a large satellite dish.

I also read on another site that EMF's can cause issues with the pineal gland, which is what produces melatonin - this is what helps us sleep. Brenden has issues sleeping but we attributed that to the fact that he does have a calcified cyst near the pineal gland. So we have been giving him melatonin supplements to help him sleep.

Soooo.... is the cyst causing him to be more sensitive to EMF's, did the EMF's cause the cyst? Is it the EMF's causing his sleep disorder or the cyst? Each new item learned creates new questions.

The bottom line, no matter what came first - the cyst or the EMF's - the EMF's are the trigger to it all now.

Eddie - my "other half" - is great with wood. I have a wooden platform bed in my room, so no box spring. He can make a wooden platform bed for Brenden and then we can get a different type of mattress.

Brenden and I spoke about this earlier this week (He is out of town with his cousins this weekend) and he seemed open to all of this being a problem. But how to you convince a 19 year old who has grown up in the electronic age how bad all of this could truly be?

Thank you all so much for answering my questions, allowing me to vent and ramble.

I joined two other groups on Yahoo and so far you are the only group who has responded and your answers, patience and insights have really helped.

Pam









     

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Thanks, I'll check out the air mattresses. I may have to turn off the circuit at night.

What all  has prevagen done for you?





From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 3:04 PM







 



 


   
     
     
      Hi Kathy,

 

The air mattress is just something I picked up at Walmart. i did off gas it for a while but it doesn't bother me now. I cover it with a mattress pad & then a fitted sheet too. Sleep in the middle of the family room away from the electric in the walls. I do turn off the electric at night. Do you do that Kathy?  I love the air mattress. Also the prevagen I'm taking.

 

Loni



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Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves

To: [hidden email]

Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:09 PM



 



Loni,



I'm sorry for your son too.  I think it's worse for the kids, they have their life ahead of them.

Ginger helps nausea. Anyone try magnesium w a small amount of cal?



I can't sleep in our bedroom, in the living-room on the couch - not comfortable & has metal in it, not good. .



 Loni what kind of air mattress to you use? I have chemical sensitivities, new things can smell. . Did you let it off  gas? Cant' swing an organic bed now.



Kathy



From: Loni <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves



 



 I feel so bad for your son Pam. I can't seem to sleep in a bedroom either. I sleep in the Family Room in the middle of the room on an air mattress & I turn the electric off at night otherwise I would fry.



 



I don't think that room will ever work for him from what you've told me. Can he transfer to another bedroom? Do you have a smart meter? That is not going to work for your son I don't think.



 



What has helped me is a suppliment called Prevagen. It is a brain suppliment for memory but it also helps the nervous system. Couldn't sleep in the house at all until i started this suppliment.



 



Maybe you should try it with him. You need to reduce the exposure as much as you can. The gadgets have not really worked for me except for the Q Link a little with the computer.



 



Loni



From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>



Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves



To: [hidden email]



Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 7:35 AM



 



Hi Pam,



EPK In Vegas wrote:



> Where do I start.... my son (19 years old) has been having headaches, migraines, nausea, vomiting, difficulty sleeping and a sense of unease for years.



You describe what we have. It is good you are finding out your son is



not alone, and I hope you find the answers you seek.



Electro hyper sensitivity is a growing problem.



> Not all at once and all to varying degrees.



Because the cause is EMF pollution in your environment, and that changes



with your location, and with what bad devices are turned on nearby.



> He wants to come home, but does not understand why he feels "weird" and does not want to alone here.



>



If his fathers house is a cleaner environment, emf wise, than help him



accept he may never be able to come "home."



Some here have reduced their symptoms enough to be "normal" again,



although only a very few can act like emf don't bother them anymore. If



you can search the archives of this forum, you will find a lot of



advice. The biggest and easiest strategy is "avoidance." Then work on



improving health, and the immune system, and detox, because he may be



burdened with heavy metals. That seems to be a key factor in triggering EHS.



> Well, I believe that I figured out the problem - it just dawned on me last night. He has a small bedroom - 10x10. The main circuit breaker box for my condo is in that room, the intake for the air conditioner is just out side his bedroom door, we have high voltage power lines across the street and add to all of this his TV, Xbox, radio, cell phone charge etc.



>



You describe the perfect toxic soup. The same environment that started



my trouble.



High magnetic field, electric field, and pulsed devices putting out



noise (that can usually be detected with a simple AM radio), and



microwaves from the cell phone. You didn't mention any WiFi or DECT, as



they are the worst of microwave exposure.



> I have someone coming to my house tomorrow to do some EMF readings to try and confirm this theory.



>



Good. You are lucky to live near someone with those skills and



collection of meters. Am I right?



> Does anyone on this sight have experience with EMF Neutralizers?



I have only heard that name once before, and I'm not sure what device



you describe. Sounds like Graham-Stetzer filters?



Stewart



http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html



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Loni wrote:
> We are (EHS people) more sensitive than any meter.
True. We seem to react to the digital content of the signal, not the
signal strength itself. The WiFi beacon at 10 blips per second has been
described as a jackhammer on the cell structure.

> I have found that out so you can't really judge on the measurement.
>  
Except, if it Does show up on the meter in significant numbers, then it
is More Likely, than not, to be a bad place for you, or him.

Stewart

Turning off the breaker is HUGE. On Prevagen the jury is still out because it's just my second month but I have been able to sleep in the house consistantly for the first time ever after taking this suppliment. Works on the nervous system. I recommend it. Loni

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From: KathyB <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 1:24 PM


 





Thanks, I'll check out the air mattresses. I may have to turn off the circuit at night.

What all  has prevagen done for you?

From: Loni <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 3:04 PM

 

Hi Kathy,

 

The air mattress is just something I picked up at Walmart. i did off gas it for a while but it doesn't bother me now. I cover it with a mattress pad & then a fitted sheet too. Sleep in the middle of the family room away from the electric in the walls. I do turn off the electric at night. Do you do that Kathy?  I love the air mattress. Also the prevagen I'm taking.

 

Loni

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From: KathyB <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves

To: [hidden email]

Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:09 PM

 

Loni,

I'm sorry for your son too.  I think it's worse for the kids, they have their life ahead of them.

Ginger helps nausea. Anyone try magnesium w a small amount of cal?

I can't sleep in our bedroom, in the living-room on the couch - not comfortable & has metal in it, not good. .

 Loni what kind of air mattress to you use? I have chemical sensitivities, new things can smell. . Did you let it off  gas? Cant' swing an organic bed now.

Kathy

From: Loni <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves

 

 I feel so bad for your son Pam. I can't seem to sleep in a bedroom either. I sleep in the Family Room in the middle of the room on an air mattress & I turn the electric off at night otherwise I would fry.

 

I don't think that room will ever work for him from what you've told me. Can he transfer to another bedroom? Do you have a smart meter? That is not going to work for your son I don't think.

 

What has helped me is a suppliment called Prevagen. It is a brain suppliment for memory but it also helps the nervous system. Couldn't sleep in the house at all until i started this suppliment.

 

Maybe you should try it with him. You need to reduce the exposure as much as you can. The gadgets have not really worked for me except for the Q Link a little with the computer.

 

Loni

From: S Andreason <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: [eSens] HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves

To: [hidden email]

Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 7:35 AM

 

Hi Pam,

EPK In Vegas wrote:

> Where do I start.... my son (19 years old) has been having headaches, migraines, nausea, vomiting, difficulty sleeping and a sense of unease for years.

You describe what we have. It is good you are finding out your son is

not alone, and I hope you find the answers you seek.

Electro hyper sensitivity is a growing problem.

> Not all at once and all to varying degrees.

Because the cause is EMF pollution in your environment, and that changes

with your location, and with what bad devices are turned on nearby.

> He wants to come home, but does not understand why he feels "weird" and does not want to alone here.

>

If his fathers house is a cleaner environment, emf wise, than help him

accept he may never be able to come "home."

Some here have reduced their symptoms enough to be "normal" again,

although only a very few can act like emf don't bother them anymore. If

you can search the archives of this forum, you will find a lot of

advice. The biggest and easiest strategy is "avoidance." Then work on

improving health, and the immune system, and detox, because he may be

burdened with heavy metals. That seems to be a key factor in triggering EHS.

> Well, I believe that I figured out the problem - it just dawned on me last night. He has a small bedroom - 10x10. The main circuit breaker box for my condo is in that room, the intake for the air conditioner is just out side his bedroom door, we have high voltage power lines across the street and add to all of this his TV, Xbox, radio, cell phone charge etc.

>

You describe the perfect toxic soup. The same environment that started

my trouble.

High magnetic field, electric field, and pulsed devices putting out

noise (that can usually be detected with a simple AM radio), and

microwaves from the cell phone. You didn't mention any WiFi or DECT, as

they are the worst of microwave exposure.

> I have someone coming to my house tomorrow to do some EMF readings to try and confirm this theory.

>

Good. You are lucky to live near someone with those skills and

collection of meters. Am I right?

> Does anyone on this sight have experience with EMF Neutralizers?

I have only heard that name once before, and I'm not sure what device

you describe. Sounds like Graham-Stetzer filters?

Stewart

http://seahorseCorral.org/ehs1.html

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Hi Pam,
 
My name is Pam, too. I'm still pretty new to this eSens group, but I've been following Dr. Mercola's forum, as well as Mast-Victims.org.
 
If your son's been suffering for a while, you may want to check for geopathic stress. They don't discuss it much here, perhaps because this sort of thing is frowned upon in modern conventional science.  Yet cause and effect which is a universal law, suggests that building on certain type of underground features can cause the grounds to become toxic with multi-forms of underground radiation including infrared, gamma, as well as, microwave.  These radiations vary at different times of the day.  At certain times at night the radiations can reach 12 feet from ground level.
 
The reason I mention this is because the combined toxicity from man-made and earth radiations can create a toxic pool which contributes to "sick house syndrome".  The symptoms associated with geo-stress are identical to those of EHS.  Geo-stress is caused when "sacred ground" is built upon.  This includes various gridlines, ley lines, curry lines, fault lines, slopes, underground streams, etc.  With these conditions, EHS symptoms can really exacerbate. 
 
There were times I felt like I was "drowning" in cell phone radiation.  Others, I would simply be able to lie on the floor in the fetal position.  They claim that these houses are attractive to ants, cats, as well as discarnate spirits.  The radiations from the entire neighborhood seemed to effortlessly blend into each other.  That neighborhood had a bit higher elevation, but not higher than the near-by cell phone tower.
 
I state these things because you are looking for a house and although a house can be better  when not attached-- like the other members state, let your son test the new environment a couple of different occasions to make sure the energy is at times pleasant. I find being in a space during peak times such as rush hour, dinner time, holidays, etc. really can make a difference in terms of exposure.
 
For geo-stress, dowsers seem to be pretty effective, at least in my case it helped a lot.  Joey Korn out of Georgia will check your home via phone for a nominal fee. They don't use meters.  This is an ancient spiritual art that was made obsolete by modern science, many are returning to this practice.
 
Good luck to your family especially your son.  I believe that the youth that are affected have a very special mission.  They are our future leaders and they will have the opportunity to impact and co-heal our planet. Peace.
 
Pam


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From: EPK In Vegas <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: HELP! My son is having issues with EMF waves
To: [hidden email]
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 2:01 PM


 



Thanks to everyone who has applied so far. Hopefully in about 6 months this will all be a non issue as we are selling the condo and buying a house. I will be more aware of the setup in a new house.

While his fathers house may be cleaner with less EMF's it is NOT a happy house and he is miserable there in other ways. Talk about being caught between a rock and a hard place.

I feel terrible that he has had these issues for years and it never occurred to me that this could be the root of the problem in his room.

We do have another room for him to move into, so we are discussing that. When the readers come today I am going to have them take measurements in all rooms. What levels should I be looking at? I don't want to rely solely on the word of the company that is coming out to take measurements, and there is not much info out there on what levels are "ok". He seems to be okay in other areas of the house. What is considered a good low (I know, ZERO would be best).

Thanks so much for your support. Lot's of research to do.....

Pam









     

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