HAVE TO MOVE--REALLY NEED ADVICE!!!

Hi friends,

I just learned today that I am going to have to find an efficiency apartment or a room to rent somewhere!  I feel very shell shocked and unprepared for how to best investigate to get a place safe for the future....

My first question is how I can best avoid cell towers, antennas, etc, right?  I've been on the www.antennasearch.com website and have a few questions how to interpret that....

Firstly what doesn't this site tell me that I might need to know about what type of towers they are?

2.  How far should I be ideally from cell towers and antennas...

3.  The site has large towers, over 200 ft, and medium, under.....is there much difference?

4.  Are towers alot more important than antennas?  they show single and double antennas.  I don't see TV towers on here, though will investigate.....

5.  If I have to, is there adequate protection stuff to line walls, windows,  with at LessEMF, etc that is not super expensive--what would be the best of cheapest options to make it as good as possible, espcially sine I live in the suburbs of a large city and it looks like there are towers everywhere I see apartments!  thought some places less than others, usually the farther out of town I would go.....

Sorry I know this has many questions in it!  I would so appreciate any good advice though as all of a sudden my life seems to depend on it!  

I do own some protective clothing--a baclava, 1/2 grounding sheet, a camisole in same fabric from LessEMF and some baric I slip between my sheets....would wearing some of this 24/7 shield me much?

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!

Debbie

I am so sorry to hear about your situation.

Regarding how far you need to be from the towers, that varies depending on how sensitive you are, as well as how many antennas are on the tower, how strong of a signal they generate, and what they are used for.  You might be extremely sensitive to the digital microwave signals from cell phone antennas, but not affected much from an AM radio station, for example.  The short answer is to try to find a place as far from any antennas as possible.

The more antennas on a tower, the stronger the signal, and the more you will be affected.  In general, taller towers are put up so that they can cover a larger area.  But in order to cover long distances, the power also has to be increased.  I suspect you will be able to tolerate being closer to a short cell phone tower than a tall one.  

In highly populated areas, more and more cell phone antennas and towers have been put up in order to handle the large number of calls.  That usually means lots of short towers running at lower power, since each antenna only covers a small area.  But they seem to have so many towers and antennas now that it is difficult to keep far enough away.  For me, living in a suburban area, I need to be at least 1/2 a mile away from cell phone towers.  

However, in rural areas, along expressways, I am affected from almost 2 miles away.  There are fewer towers out in the country than where I live, but they can be operating at much higher power levels, so that they can cover longer distances.

Don't get too discouraged looking at antenna locations on a map.  If other buildings block your view of the antennas, they might reduce the signal enough that you will be able to tolerate living closer to a tower than you would otherwise.

I don't mean to further complicate your problems, but when looking for an apartment, keep an eye out for where the electric meters are located.  You don't want an apartment right next to them.  

I'm not sure what the best/least expensive shielding solution is.  Hopefully someone else can help answer that.

James

> I just learned today that I am going to have to find an efficiency
> apartment or a room to rent somewhere!  I feel very shell shocked
> and unprepared for how to best investigate to get a place safe for
> the future....

How much flexibility do you have in choosing a place to live?  Can
you live in a place that isn't very densely populated?  That is,
no apartment buildings nearby, and ideally not even a lot of
houses?  Perhaps by a large park?  A body of water?

It seems like the further away from the freeways you are, the
better off you are.   Also, I think there are web pages where
people can complain about poor cellphone coverage -- those
might be good places to live.  :-)

Marc

In an apartment, you might have trouble with microwave ovens and cordless phones in adjacent units. Could be better to rent a small house; on the other hand if you're high up in a building, you'll be farther away from the utility meters. I'd be less worried about radio towers if they're not close by.

J.L.


--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:

And let me add, that many areas now have "smart meters" which are the replacement
for the old, analog electric meters. These are wireless, microwave meters.
For more info on smart meters, www.stopsmartmeters.org
and www.W4AR.com
Lizzie
 



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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 19:35:04 -0700
Subject: [eSens] Re: HAVE TO MOVE--REALLY NEED ADVICE!!!


 



I am so sorry to hear about your situation.

Regarding how far you need to be from the towers, that varies depending on
how sensitive you are, as well as how many antennas are on the tower, how
strong of a signal they generate, and what they are used for. You might be
extremely sensitive to the digital microwave signals from cell phone
antennas, but not affected much from an AM radio station, for example. The
short answer is to try to find a place as far from any antennas as possible.

The more antennas on a tower, the stronger the signal, and the more you will
be affected. In general, taller towers are put up so that they can cover a
larger area. But in order to cover long distances, the power also has to be
increased. I suspect you will be able to tolerate being closer to a short
cell phone tower than a tall one.

In highly populated areas, more and more cell phone antennas and towers have
been put up in order to handle the large number of calls. That usually
means lots of short towers running at lower power, since each antenna only
covers a small area. But they seem to have so many towers and antennas now
that it is difficult to keep far enough away. For me, living in a suburban
area, I need to be at least 1/2 a mile away from cell phone towers.

However, in rural areas, along expressways, I am affected from almost 2
miles away. There are fewer towers out in the country than where I live,
but they can be operating at much higher power levels, so that they can
cover longer distances.

Don't get too discouraged looking at antenna locations on a map. If other
buildings block your view of the antennas, they might reduce the signal
enough that you will be able to tolerate living closer to a tower than you
would otherwise.

I don't mean to further complicate your problems, but when looking for an
apartment, keep an eye out for where the electric meters are located. You
don't want an apartment right next to them.

I'm not sure what the best/least expensive shielding solution is. Hopefully
someone else can help answer that.

James

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THANK YOU to everyone!  This really is all such good advice I will try to apply.  At the moment I have some restriction to not be too far from my older brother who can help me with moving, etc, as I have been very weak from lyme, mold, etc...too......I am wondering if it comes down to the fact that I have to be in a complex with some people and thteir bad stuff around, would it be possible using shielding products on all the walls, floor, ceiling, that that could block almost all of it?
 
Second question is I own a baklava to cover my head and throat, and camisole for the chest.  I could make leggings and along sleeve shirt to be tottally coveredd personally.  If I covered my body in all this, do you think I would need to cover the whole apartment?  The camisole is supposed to shield up to 35dB at 100MHz......
 
Thanks if you can help!
 
Debbie




-----Original Message-----
From: john &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Mon, Sep 12, 2011 10:00 am
Subject: [eSens] Re: HAVE TO MOVE--REALLY NEED ADVICE!!!

  In an apartment, you might have trouble with microwave ovens and cordless phones in adjacent units. Could be better to rent a small house; on the other hand if you're high up in a building, you'll be farther away from the utility meters. I'd be less worried about radio towers if they're not close by.

J.L.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" &lt;marc@...&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; &gt; I just learned today that I am going to have to find an efficiency
&gt; &gt; apartment or a room to rent somewhere! I feel very shell shocked
&gt; &gt; and unprepared for how to best investigate to get a place safe for
&gt; &gt; the future....
&gt;
&gt; How much flexibility do you have in choosing a place to live? Can
&gt; you live in a place that isn't very densely populated? That is,
&gt; no apartment buildings nearby, and ideally not even a lot of
&gt; houses? Perhaps by a large park? A body of water?
&gt;
&gt; It seems like the further away from the freeways you are, the
&gt; better off you are. Also, I think there are web pages where
&gt; people can complain about poor cellphone coverage -- those
&gt; might be good places to live. :-)
&gt;
&gt; Marc
&gt;







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Hi Debbie,

Having been one to move away from power towers with very little improvement, I can tell you not to make the same mistake that I did! I am stuck here for awhile even though it isn't working out health wise for me.

I highly recommend renting a room in a house month-to-month. It is best to be somewhere that you can easily move from if the EMF situation changes for the worse. I agree that apartments aren't the best choice as you are too close to too many other tenants with their electronic devices right on the other side of your wall. Also most apartments ( and houses) require a lease and you can't easily move if you need to.

I agree with the other advice that you were given. All very good - just need to add flexibility to it as EMF situations around you can change for the worse.

Let us know how it goes.

Cheryl

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From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: HAVE TO MOVE--REALLY NEED ADVICE!!!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 10:16 AM







 



 


   
     
     
      THANK YOU to everyone!  This really is all such good advice I will try to apply.  At the moment I have some restriction to not be too far from my older brother who can help me with moving, etc, as I have been very weak from lyme, mold, etc...too......I am wondering if it comes down to the fact that I have to be in a complex with some people and thteir bad stuff around, would it be possible using shielding products on all the walls, floor, ceiling, that that could block almost all of it?

 

Second question is I own a baklava to cover my head and throat, and camisole for the chest.  I could make leggings and along sleeve shirt to be tottally coveredd personally.  If I covered my body in all this, do you think I would need to cover the whole apartment?  The camisole is supposed to shield up to 35dB at 100MHz......

 

Thanks if you can help!

 

Debbie



-----Original Message-----

From: john &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Mon, Sep 12, 2011 10:00 am

Subject: [eSens] Re: HAVE TO MOVE--REALLY NEED ADVICE!!!



  In an apartment, you might have trouble with microwave ovens and cordless phones in adjacent units. Could be better to rent a small house; on the other hand if you're high up in a building, you'll be farther away from the utility meters. I'd be less worried about radio towers if they're not close by.



J.L.



--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" &lt;marc@...&gt; wrote:

&gt;

&gt; &gt; I just learned today that I am going to have to find an efficiency

&gt; &gt; apartment or a room to rent somewhere! I feel very shell shocked

&gt; &gt; and unprepared for how to best investigate to get a place safe for

&gt; &gt; the future....

&gt;

&gt; How much flexibility do you have in choosing a place to live? Can

&gt; you live in a place that isn't very densely populated? That is,

&gt; no apartment buildings nearby, and ideally not even a lot of

&gt; houses? Perhaps by a large park? A body of water?

&gt;

&gt; It seems like the further away from the freeways you are, the

&gt; better off you are. Also, I think there are web pages where

&gt; people can complain about poor cellphone coverage -- those

&gt; might be good places to live. :-)

&gt;

&gt; Marc

&gt;



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