Grounding Sheets

Does anyone have any experience with these? I am getting desperate to find some insomnia relief. The Smart Meters are killing me.
Thanks,
Steve

> Does anyone have any experience with these? I am getting desperate to
> find some insomnia relief. The Smart Meters are killing me.

I've got a grounding sheet, but haven't really found any good use for
it yet.  I don't think it would help with Smart Meters...

Marc

You didn't put it on your bed?
Unrelated, I just bought the quantum autosense and for some reason it seems to make me more agitated. I got into traffic last night and thought I would flip my gourd.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any experience with these? I am getting desperate to
> > find some insomnia relief. The Smart Meters are killing me.
>
> I've got a grounding sheet, but haven't really found any good use for
> it yet.  I don't think it would help with Smart Meters...
>
> Marc
>

> You didn't put it on your bed?

Yes, but making direct contact with the sheet just agitates me.
Putting it along the perimeter of the bed might be slightly helpful,
but I may just be imagining that...

> Unrelated, I just bought the quantum autosense and for some reason it
> seems to make me more agitated. I got into traffic last night and thought
> I would flip my gourd.

That's no good -- it's supposed to have the opposite effect!

Marc

No, haven't got it set up on the bed yet.  My parents bed has been grounded since the first of Febraury and my mother has her feet on the ground pad most of the day.  Just got a splitter last week so they can both be grounded during the day.
 
I have all the bands, sleep system, auto system and the pad.  Just received the auto system yesterday ... will set it up tomorrow.
 
My parents are set-up via their crawl space, I have to go through the electrical outlets and I don't have any grounded outlets upstairs ... need to get that done.
 
When I first used the grounded pad it seemed to make me jumpy and itchy, but it calmed down.
 
Marty


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From: torch369 <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] Re: Grounding Sheets
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Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 5:57 PM


 



You didn't put it on your bed?
Unrelated, I just bought the quantum autosense and for some reason it seems to make me more agitated. I got into traffic last night and thought I would flip my gourd.

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any experience with these? I am getting desperate to
> > find some insomnia relief. The Smart Meters are killing me.
>
> I've got a grounding sheet, but haven't really found any good use for
> it yet. I don't think it would help with Smart Meters...
>
> Marc
>









     

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Also, the problem with the sheets is that its not returnable. $150 is a lot of moolah to blow if it doesn't work for me.
As for the auto clear, I am going to keep experimenting with it to see if it's really getting me agitated. There is no control on it so no way to change the setting.

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Boy, you really went all out! The lack of a return policy makes me hesitate

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> As for the auto clear, I am going to keep experimenting with it to see if
> it's really getting me agitated. There is no control on it so no way to
> change the setting.

Yes, the Quantum Auto Clears *used* to be adjustable -- the one I have is.
I don't know why they "downgraded" to the non-adjustable ones...

Marc

Me neither, I am going to return it. I'm hesitant about trying the quantum home now

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Did you have a bad reaction to the Quantum Auto Clear a second time?

Note that the biggest proponents here for the items from Quantum Products
(me & Diane) both had adverse reactions to these products at first.  In
my case, I know that the adverse reactions lasted months for some of
the stronger items (e.g. Quantum Pro).  However, in the long run the
adverse reactions went away and these proved to be an essential tool
for tolerating high EMF environments (e.g. workplace)

Basically, it is my opinion that any EMF protection device that is
going to be helpful in the long run will provoke adverse reactions
at first, and a tolerance must be built up.

Marc

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:34:34 -0000, "torch369" <[hidden email]> said:
> Me neither, I am going to return it. I'm hesitant about trying the
> quantum home now
 

--- In [hidden email], "Marc Martin" <marc@...> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any experience with these? I am getting desperate to
> > find some insomnia relief. The Smart Meters are killing me.
>
> I've got a grounding sheet, but haven't really found any good use for
> it yet.  I don't think it would help with Smart Meters...
>
> Marc
Hi,
Can you tell me which system of grounding sheets you're talking about? Are they grounded using plug at outlet, or w/grounding rod outside?
Lizzie
>

It did bother me the second and third time. The other thing I didn't like about it is that it didn't turn off when the car was turned off and would have to pull it out and put it back everytime i drove which is a pain.
My biggest issue right now is the smart meter. If the Quantum Home can help that then I would be willing to try it, but if it just worked on the wiring in the apt. I don't think it would be worth it.
This may sound bizarre, but i bought some crystals after researching which ones would be good for emf protection (I ended up with black tourmaline, Amethyst, smoky crystal, amzonite, and fluorite). I put 2 on one side of my monitor and 3 on the other. For some reason I feel a little better while I am on the computer. They all cost me $20 total and they look nice so I'm glad i bought them. I'm going to buy a second set for my bedroom.

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> It did bother me the second and third time. The other thing I didn't like
> about it is that it didn't turn off when the car was turned off and would
> have to pull it out and put it back everytime i drove which is a pain.

Ahh, well that sounds like a *car* problem.... my car doesn't leave the
cigarette outlets active when turned off.

> My biggest issue right now is the smart meter. If the Quantum Home can
> help that then I would be willing to try it, but if it just worked on the
> wiring in the apt.

I think the Quantum Home does help what's "in the air", but so far I've
seen no reports of *anything* helping with Smart Meters.  And we don't
have Smart Meters here, so I can't test my devices with them.

> This may sound bizarre, but i bought some crystals after researching
> which ones would be good for emf protection (I ended up with black
> tourmaline, Amethyst, smoky crystal, amzonite, and fluorite). I put 2 on
> one side of my monitor and 3 on the other. For some reason I feel a
> little better while I am on the computer.

That's good, but be aware that crystals need to be periodically "cleansed"
(or so they say), as they can accumulate the negative energy until they
become a source of it themselves.

Marc

Yes, they can be soaked in water. Some of them don't need this so i will have to do some research.
have you tried crystals?

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> Can you tell me which system of grounding sheets you're talking about?
> Are they grounded using plug at outlet, or w/grounding rod outside?

The grounding sheet I'm using is from Earthing.com, and I am grounding
it with a nearby outlet.  I suspect that the ground on that outlet is
not 100% "clean", so it is provoking a bad reaction when I make direct
contact with the sheet.

Marc

> Yes, they can be soaked in water. Some of them don't need this so i will
> have to do some research. have you tried crystals?

I've tried a few different crystals, but I've mostly just noticed
increased agitation or no difference.

Marc

The way I understand it, everything on that circuit would have to be properly wired & grounded, not just that outlet. *I could be wrong. But here is what I found. I have the steizer filters. I had several on my bathroom outlet, and in the room next to it. The readings with the micro surge meter were showing anywhere betw 221-287.  (Anyone who's done readings using the micro surge meter knows these readings change.) Now, when "all" of the outlets that were ON that circuit were properly wired & grounded, the micro surge readings on all outlets for "that" circuit- were all under 40, and some under 30. So your statement is probably true...but just to clarify that in my house, I have found outlets not even remotely close to each other, on different circuits. I hope my house is just an anomoly, but probably its not. * I do use a bed grounding system, but instead of using either the ground rod into the outside ground soil, or plugging into an outlet...I use a ceramic planter (5 gal) filled with soil that drains well (Ie: not too sandy, not too much clay)....a 6 inch copper rod 1/2 in diameter, the alligator clips- and I ground the bed sheet  silver fabric **(it goes UNDER) the sheet-  by attaching one end of the alligator clip to the special fabric, and the other end to the copper rod inside the planter pot. NOw the soil in the pot is never supposed to DRY. And the water used has to be s/thing akin to either artesian spring water or spring water. **NOT TAP WATER...ours is city water and probably loaded with nasties, not to leave out chlorine and fluoride.
I also used a smaller version of this same system in my car, for my daughter, who is also ES. I made a small pad, put the silver fabric on the inside, left a slot open at the seam, and using a smaller planter with soil and copper rod/allig clips/wire...attach the clip to the seat pad, and the other to the planter.
**Why this method? Because I didn't know if there was alot of ground current in my land, and at that time, I had a sense that the plug in method might not be safe either. So I was talking to a healer/colleague in Ireland about using the bed grounding system, but asked "why couldn't I use a planter"...but I couldn't find any information online on this, let alone anything that would tell me if this system would work. It turned out, the Irish healer uses this same system in his healing studio, and in his car. *I should add that our beds are metal-free. The results? Both my daughter and I feel that our sleep is much better. And in the car? She said she felt a thousand percent better using this system! Whereas before, she'd get nauseated.
I don't yet have a body voltage meter or galvanic skin response tester...but so far, my daughter has proven to be a very sensitive human meter.  And many of her earlier symptoms have disappeared.
Lizzie
 


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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:32:11 -0800
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> Can you tell me which system of grounding sheets you're talking about?
> Are they grounded using plug at outlet, or w/grounding rod outside?

The grounding sheet I'm using is from Earthing.com, and I am grounding
it with a nearby outlet. I suspect that the ground on that outlet is
not 100% "clean", so it is provoking a bad reaction when I make direct
contact with the sheet.

Marc


     

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Hi, Steve (Torch),
 
Sorry I am not online lately and I am just getting to your post.  The Quantum Pro took about a month for me to totally tolerate without detox reactions.  However, you will experience detox reactions even if you go to stay in a safe environment for awhile.  Right now, I am having detox reactions without using any devices due to moving permanently to my other house we have remediated.  The reactions are things like poor word finding, minor clumsiness....  They started there about 2 weeks after the move (I am starting week 5 there, so I hope this clears up in a couple weeks).
 
The Quantum Home doesn't have the settings that the Pro does.  The Q Home would *not* have worked for me, because I actually kept the Pro on a setting that was not available on the Q Home.  That setting was the optimum setting for me and it didn't exist on the Q Home.  So, it is always necessary to actually give a device a good amount of time to see if it will work.  They often will not and you will have to return many.  This doesn't mean you won't find a device that works for you, it is just alot of trial and error.
 
That said, I think Marc and I both had best results with the Quantum Pro--but Marc had both, I believe--the Pro and Home, right Marc?  I tried the Q Companion but it did not work for me and I returned it. 
 
Don't be scared away from trying devices.  Some will work, but know you will have to send back some of them, so be sure they have a reliable (and a timely) return policy.  Anything less than 60 days to return is not going to give you enough time to know whether it works for you.
 
Hope you find one that works,
Diane

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From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Grounding Sheets
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Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 12:50 PM


 



Did you have a bad reaction to the Quantum Auto Clear a second time?

Note that the biggest proponents here for the items from Quantum Products
(me & Diane) both had adverse reactions to these products at first. In
my case, I know that the adverse reactions lasted months for some of
the stronger items (e.g. Quantum Pro). However, in the long run the
adverse reactions went away and these proved to be an essential tool
for tolerating high EMF environments (e.g. workplace)

Basically, it is my opinion that any EMF protection device that is
going to be helpful in the long run will provoke adverse reactions
at first, and a tolerance must be built up.

Marc

On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:34:34 -0000, "torch369" <[hidden email]> said:
> Me neither, I am going to return it. I'm hesitant about trying the
> quantum home now









     

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Hi again, Steve,
 
Remember that your crystals will need cleared and cleaned.  If you continue using them, they will build up emfs and, sooner or later, start putting those back into the atmosphere.  I use gemstones (not for emfs) and they work great, but they are not a "buy and forget them" kind of product.  You have to constantly wash and clear them.  I put mine under a tree in a state park for several days to clear them. 
 
Diane

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Subject: [eSens] Re: Grounding Sheets
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Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 1:20 AM


 



It did bother me the second and third time. The other thing I didn't like about it is that it didn't turn off when the car was turned off and would have to pull it out and put it back everytime i drove which is a pain.
My biggest issue right now is the smart meter. If the Quantum Home can help that then I would be willing to try it, but if it just worked on the wiring in the apt. I don't think it would be worth it.
This may sound bizarre, but i bought some crystals after researching which ones would be good for emf protection (I ended up with black tourmaline, Amethyst, smoky crystal, amzonite, and fluorite). I put 2 on one side of my monitor and 3 on the other. For some reason I feel a little better while I am on the computer. They all cost me $20 total and they look nice so I'm glad i bought them. I'm going to buy a second set for my bedroom.

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> That said, I think Marc and I both had best results with the Quantum
> Pro--but Marc had both, I believe--the Pro and Home, right Marc?  I tried
> the Q Companion but it did not work for me and I returned it. 

Yes, I have the Quantum Home, plus I have both the old and the new Quantum
Pro -- the new Quantum Pro has the settings you are talking about
(0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,A,B,C,D,E), while the old Quantum Pro did not.  Although
I personally haven't noticed any major difference between these settings...
they all seem to work about the same for me.   I do notice the "strength"
setting (the knob), and that is the one I use for adjustments.

Marc