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Great article on Mercury

alstrup
Hi All,

I wanted to share a truly great article that was just posted on the Dr. Mercola site about Mercury, I think it is one of the best and informative articles on Mercury I had ever read and it also contains some groundbreaking new info that can be of help to many people.

Here is the link for it:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/06/dr-shade-on-mercury-exposure.aspx?e_cid=20130106_SNL_Art_1

All the best,

Ole

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Patricia
that IS a great article.
the only thing i wish is that they would always include
the food sources of those big long named nutrients
so that i wouldn't have to look them up.  

i looked them up, so i will share what i found.  looks
as if we need avocados, garlic, cabbage, cilantro, red
peppers, yogurt, egg yolks, onions, oats, wheat germ,
broccoli, brussels sprouts, sprouted lentils - i love
those little lentil sprouts! - whey, cottage cheese...
:)  that's what i found.  heartening, because that's
pretty much what i eat.  :)  
love, patricia


On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:20 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> I wanted to share a truly great article that was just posted on the Dr. Mercola site about Mercury, I think it is one of the best and informative articles on Mercury I had ever read and it also contains some groundbreaking new info that can be of help to many people.
>
> Here is the link for it:
>
> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/06/dr-shade-on-mercury-exposure.aspx?e_cid=20130106_SNL_Art_1
>
> All the best,
>
> Ole


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Re: Great article on Mercury

Marc Martin
Administrator
The problem is that many mercury-poisoned people
cannot eat many of the foods you've just listed, as
they become much worse.

These foods may be perfectly fine for healthy people
to eat, but mercury-poisoned people need to be
careful when trying anything new.

Marc


On January 15, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote:

> that IS a great article.
> the only thing i wish is that they would always include
> the food sources of those big long named nutrients
> so that i wouldn't have to look them up.  
>
> i looked them up, so i will share what i found.  looks
> as if we need avocados, garlic, cabbage, cilantro, red
> peppers, yogurt, egg yolks, onions, oats, wheat germ,
> broccoli, brussels sprouts, sprouted lentils - i love
> those little lentil sprouts! - whey, cottage cheese...
> :)  that's what i found.  heartening, because that's
> pretty much what i eat.  :)  
> love, patricia
 
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RE: Great article on Mercury

Elizabeth thode



Hi Folks,
My understanding was this:
in order to help repair the glutathione pathways,
 cysteine and the omega 3's are needed.
An excellent source of cysteine is Whey Protein.
An excellent source of omega 3's, is salmon oil.
Mercola sells an organic Whey Protein shake powder,there are others who sell this.  Product purity will vary accordingto source.
www.vitalchoice.com sells Omega 3 salmon oil capsules
(and salmon too, that is checked for purity). Sulfur is also a necessary mineral in this healing and detox process.Now, it could well be, that those who find the above cause problems,may find taking effective Probiotics helpful. By effective, I mean the producthas to survive long enough in the digestive system, to work.  I took Probiotics (mercola's) every day, for over 2 years and then some. Seems tome, finding the source, the reason behind the "being intolerant" to mineral rich foodsshould be at the top of the list. Because this is a symptom, it is not the cause. It is asking the question: what else did mercury screw up in the body? And how todo I fix that?  Blessings, Lizzie
To: [hidden email]
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      The problem is that many mercury-poisoned people

cannot eat many of the foods you've just listed, as

they become much worse.



These foods may be perfectly fine for healthy people

to eat, but mercury-poisoned people need to be

careful when trying anything new.



Marc



On January 15, Patricia Robinett [hidden email]> wrote:

> that IS a great article.

> the only thing i wish is that they would always include

> the food sources of those big long named nutrients

> so that i wouldn't have to look them up.  

>

> i looked them up, so i will share what i found.  looks

> as if we need avocados, garlic, cabbage, cilantro, red

> peppers, yogurt, egg yolks, onions, oats, wheat germ,

> broccoli, brussels sprouts, sprouted lentils - i love

> those little lentil sprouts! - whey, cottage cheese...

> :)  that's what i found.  heartening, because that's

> pretty much what i eat.  :)  

> love, patricia

 




   
     

   
   






 
     

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Marc Martin
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Well, there are quite a few different detoxification pathways.  Focusing
on one may simply lead to problems in others.  The risk is that adding
the sulfur/glutathione starts a process that the body may not be able
to complete successfully, in which case the mercury just ends up
somewhere else.

However, I'm sure that for many this may be good advice.  For others,
it could be bad advice that leave you worse off than when you started.

Also, the folks who were criticizing this article still believe in supplementing
with sulfur -- it's just that they recommend the types of sulfur that is
less likely to let go of mercury (ALA, DMSA, DMPS) than glutathione.

Marc

On January 15, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>
>
> Hi Folks,
> My understanding was this:
> in order to help repair the glutathione pathways,
>  cysteine and the omega 3's are needed.
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RE: Great article on Mercury

Elizabeth thode
What you say is true. However, you have to start somewhere. As both you and I, have often found to "be" the case, every one'sbody is unique. I look at this whole subject....now...as a personal fill in the blank puzzle.Each person, has to find the missing pieces of their own puzzle.That means experimenting. It means tweaking the amounts of whateveris being tried.  If, for example, I instinctively have a "knowing" that my body needs sulfur, then I  will try many differentways to get this mineral into my body, and i will use every ingredient, food source, ect, available to me, until I find a way, that it works for me.  Does this take time? Yes.Does this take patience? Yes.Does this take being creative? Yes.Does it happen over night? No, not usually.Has this method worked for me? YES.  So let's take sulfur as an example. I have: crushed raw garlic, mixed it with organic Olive Oil, put it on veggies, on spelt toast, on my meat, and have had no problems with it, this way. I have also taken the Organic sulfur crystals, put a small amt (1/4) of a teaspoon, in a 6 oz bottleof filtered water, and rubbed a few drops of this sulfur water, on the bottom of my feet. Has this worked for me? Yes. Is it smelly? Yup! Do I care? Nope.  I have done this using stronger amts, this was TOO strong for my body.What I have found, is that, sometimes, using the transdermal way, thru the skin, works better theneating it, or swallowing a pill. Thru the skin, bypasses the Liver. So the body doesn't have to digest the substance.  Lizzie
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From: [hidden email]
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:46:34 -0800
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      Well, there are quite a few different detoxification pathways.  Focusing

on one may simply lead to problems in others.  The risk is that adding

the sulfur/glutathione starts a process that the body may not be able

to complete successfully, in which case the mercury just ends up

somewhere else.



However, I'm sure that for many this may be good advice.  For others,

it could be bad advice that leave you worse off than when you started.



Also, the folks who were criticizing this article still believe in supplementing

with sulfur -- it's just that they recommend the types of sulfur that is

less likely to let go of mercury (ALA, DMSA, DMPS) than glutathione.



Marc



On January 15, Elizabeth thode [hidden email]> wrote:

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>

>

> Hi Folks,

> My understanding was this:

> in order to help repair the glutathione pathways,

>  cysteine and the omega 3's are needed.



   
     

   
   






       

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Re: Great article on Mercury

Stefanie Toth
In reply to this post by Patricia
Thanks Patricia. I thought the same.


--- Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> schrieb am Di, 15.1.2013:

Von: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
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An: [hidden email]
Datum: Dienstag, 15. Januar, 2013 20:11 Uhr
















 



 


   
     
     
      that IS a great article.

the only thing i wish is that they would always include

the food sources of those big long named nutrients

so that i wouldn't have to look them up.  



i looked them up, so i will share what i found.  looks

as if we need avocados, garlic, cabbage, cilantro, red

peppers, yogurt, egg yolks, onions, oats, wheat germ,

broccoli, brussels sprouts, sprouted lentils - i love

those little lentil sprouts! - whey, cottage cheese...

:)  that's what i found.  heartening, because that's

pretty much what i eat.  :)  

love, patricia



On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:20 PM, [hidden email] wrote:



> I wanted to share a truly great article that was just posted on the Dr. Mercola site about Mercury, I think it is one of the best and informative articles on Mercury I had ever read and it also contains some groundbreaking new info that can be of help to many people.

>

> Here is the link for it:

>

> http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/06/dr-shade-on-mercury-exposure.aspx?e_cid=20130106_SNL_Art_1

>

> All the best,

>

> Ole





   
     

   
   






 










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Re: Great article on Mercury

Patricia
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might be, mark, that the food starts bringing the
toxins to the surface for discharge.  it's called a
cleansing reaction and yes, can be quite
uncomfortable and difficult to tell if you are
getting better or worse.  have you tried cultured,
fermented foods?  i had a major attraction to
cilantro a few years ago.  i ate a LOT of it... i
think that was my body's way of detoxing at
that time.  

do you think mercury poisoning is at the root of
electro sensitivity?  i was wondering that just
the other day.  

love, patricia



On Jan 15, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Marc Martin wrote:

> The problem is that many mercury-poisoned people
> cannot eat many of the foods you've just listed, as
> they become much worse.
>
> These foods may be perfectly fine for healthy people
> to eat, but mercury-poisoned people need to be
> careful when trying anything new.
>
> Marc


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Marc Martin
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On January 17, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote:
> might be, mark, that the food starts bringing the
> toxins to the surface for discharge.  

Yes, that's exactly what happens.  However, some people's
livers are so abnormal that the "discharge" never takes place,
so the toxins just end up somewhere else... possibly
somewhere worse than they were in the first place.

> i had a major attraction to cilantro a few years ago.

My body seems somewhat indifferent to cilantro.
I see on other mercury poisoning groups where
some people have terrible reactions to cilantro.
 
> do you think mercury poisoning is at the root of
> electro sensitivity?  i was wondering that just
> the other day.  

Certainly mercury poisoning is at the root of
some people's ES.  We know that because
some people get better simply by getting
their mercury fillings removed and detoxing
mercury.  However, I am not prepared to say
that this is the only root cause of ES.

Marc
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Re: Great article on Mercury

Russ
Do most in the ES/MCS community feel that having mercury dental fillings removed is a good idea? I actually have an initial consultation with an integrative/holistic dentist scheduled for Monday.  Have a large crown on my front tooth and a few fillings.  Not sure if these contain mercury but it just feels like something is not right in my mouth.  Is there anything I need to take detox-wise after the removals?


--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin  wrote:

>
> On January 17, Patricia Robinett  wrote:
> > might be, mark, that the food starts bringing the
> > toxins to the surface for discharge.  
>
> Yes, that's exactly what happens.  However, some people's
> livers are so abnormal that the "discharge" never takes place,
> so the toxins just end up somewhere else... possibly
> somewhere worse than they were in the first place.
>
> > i had a major attraction to cilantro a few years ago.
>
> My body seems somewhat indifferent to cilantro.
> I see on other mercury poisoning groups where
> some people have terrible reactions to cilantro.
>  
> > do you think mercury poisoning is at the root of
> > electro sensitivity?  i was wondering that just
> > the other day.  
>
> Certainly mercury poisoning is at the root of
> some people's ES.  We know that because
> some people get better simply by getting
> their mercury fillings removed and detoxing
> mercury.  However, I am not prepared to say
> that this is the only root cause of ES.
>
> Marc
>


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Marc Martin
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On January 17, russel395 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Do most in the ES/MCS community feel that having mercury dental fillings removed is a good idea?

Yes, I think they do.

The only caveat is that is that you have them done by someone who will minimize your
mercury exposure during the removal.  Like a holistic dentist.

Also, removing any other metals in your mouth (gold, nickel) is probably a good idea as
well if you are ES (the less unnecessary metal in your system, the fewer antennas
in your body)

Also, you should be healthy enough to deal with the mercury you will
inevitably be exposed to during the removal.  As long as you're not close
to "near death" you're probably ok.

> Is there anything I need to take detox-wise after the removals?

Yes, although what to take is certainly a matter of controversy, as
some people can stand to take stuff that would probably kill someone
else.  The most aggressive thing to do is to have IV's of DMPS.  A
much safer thing to do is "oral chelation" (pills) that pulls things
out gradually.  And some people don't do any specific chelation,
in the hopes that things will come out gradually by itself if they
take the proper nutrients.  I'm not so sure these people are actually
that successful, since mercury generally stays in your body for decades
unless you do something to specifically get it out.

As for things to take for oral chelation, the basic choices are
DMPS, DMSA, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Chlorella, Cilantro, mixtures
of chlorella/cilantro (NDF, HMD), Liquid Zeolite (various brands),
Bentonite clay, Activated Charcoal, and various other
obscure things (PCA-Rx, Crystal Energy, Parotid PMG, etc.)

Marc
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Patricia
i can't agree more with marc about the importance
of finding a dentist who knows what he is doing.
i had my 'silver' (mercury) fillings out and my
memory returned.  i went to a very good dentist,
a holistic dentist who protected me and himself
from mercury in the air...  
on the other hand, i had a friend whose wife had
her mercury fillings out and she went to a regular
dentist who had no clue about protecting her from
the mercury that he was removing from her teeth.
she ended up being totally poisoned and became
a 'mad hatter' and couldn't function at all.  she
got mercury poisoning big time - and was close
to death indeed, due to the ineptness of her
dentist.  be VERY careful - make sure the dentist
knows to protect you and himself from the
mercury.  a 'bargain dentist' might be very
expensive in the long run.  
love, patricia



On Jan 17, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Marc Martin wrote:

> On January 17, russel395 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Do most in the ES/MCS community feel that having mercury dental fillings removed is a good idea?
>
> Yes, I think they do.
>
> The only caveat is that is that you have them done by someone who will minimize your
> mercury exposure during the removal.  Like a holistic dentist.
>
> Also, removing any other metals in your mouth (gold, nickel) is probably a good idea as
> well if you are ES (the less unnecessary metal in your system, the fewer antennas
> in your body)
>
> Also, you should be healthy enough to deal with the mercury you will
> inevitably be exposed to during the removal.  As long as you're not close
> to "near death" you're probably ok.
>
>> Is there anything I need to take detox-wise after the removals?
>
> Yes, although what to take is certainly a matter of controversy, as
> some people can stand to take stuff that would probably kill someone
> else.  The most aggressive thing to do is to have IV's of DMPS.  A
> much safer thing to do is "oral chelation" (pills) that pulls things
> out gradually.  And some people don't do any specific chelation,
> in the hopes that things will come out gradually by itself if they
> take the proper nutrients.  I'm not so sure these people are actually
> that successful, since mercury generally stays in your body for decades
> unless you do something to specifically get it out.
>
> As for things to take for oral chelation, the basic choices are
> DMPS, DMSA, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Chlorella, Cilantro, mixtures
> of chlorella/cilantro (NDF, HMD), Liquid Zeolite (various brands),
> Bentonite clay, Activated Charcoal, and various other
> obscure things (PCA-Rx, Crystal Energy, Parotid PMG, etc.)
>
> Marc


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Patricia
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
well, i do have to say that i do not think that
there is magic in any one particular green...
that all greens are great detoxifiers...
chlorophyll is a marvelous detoxifier and the
fiber in the greens works well as a 'broom'
to escort toxins out.  green juices are good,
but we also need the fiber.  a lot of people
get well from a lot of conditions by ingesting
green smoothies.  fruit + greens - and they
are highly delicious - they taste like the
fruit you use, not the greens.  
love, patricia  


On Jan 17, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Marc Martin wrote:

> On January 17, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> might be, mark, that the food starts bringing the
>> toxins to the surface for discharge.  
>
> Yes, that's exactly what happens.  However, some people's
> livers are so abnormal that the "discharge" never takes place,
> so the toxins just end up somewhere else... possibly
> somewhere worse than they were in the first place.
>
>> i had a major attraction to cilantro a few years ago.
>
> My body seems somewhat indifferent to cilantro.
> I see on other mercury poisoning groups where
> some people have terrible reactions to cilantro.
>
>> do you think mercury poisoning is at the root of
>> electro sensitivity?  i was wondering that just
>> the other day.  
>
> Certainly mercury poisoning is at the root of
> some people's ES.  We know that because
> some people get better simply by getting
> their mercury fillings removed and detoxing
> mercury.  However, I am not prepared to say
> that this is the only root cause of ES.
>
> Marc


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Russ
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Thanks for the info Marc and Patricia.  

From reading online, seems there are cases of people feeling worse even amongst those who did see a biological/holistic dentist who specialized in mercury removal.  One biological dentist now discourages sick patients (CFS, MCS, etc.) from doing removals because even with suction devices, etc., disturbing the fillings at all seems to make patients who are already ill much worse.  Makes me kind of hesitant although I've also seen plenty of positive stories like the ones you two shared.  How "sick" would you two say you were at the time you did the removal?

The dentist I'm scheduled to see looks good though I don't knwo anyone who has seen him.
http://www.mitchmarderdds.com/marder.html

Marc, I'm in your area, so I'd be curious to hear who did your removals.

Thanks!

Russ

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Marc Martin
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I was pretty bad off at the time of my removals.  I had been worse in the months prior, but my naturopath thought that I needed improved liver function before getting my amalgams removed (although in retrospect, I think I would have been better off getting them out sooner rather than later).

But yes, you may indeed feel worse afterwards if you are not doing anything to support the removal of mercury from your body.  I know that I felt awful for a couple weeks after the removal, and that my body was obviously "dumping" toxins, but I think my case is a bit atypical.

Dr. Mitch Marder in Seattle is actually the dentist that I've been going to for the past couple years.  However, the person who did my amalgam removals 12 years ago was Dr Paul Rubin, who works in the same office.  There are several holistic dentists in the Seattle area, and these two are probably amongst the best.

Also, Seattle has plenty of practitioners to help out with nutrition and mercury detox.  I know that people travel from all around the country to see Julie Anderson (Nurse Practitioner), because she is familiar with Andy Cutler's protocols.  And also Dr. Klinghardt practices here, who is also famous worldwide (but philosophically at the other end of the spectrum compared to Cutler).  I go to neither of these, but have been seeing a clinical nutritionist on the eastside for the past several years.

Marc


On January 18, russel395 <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for the info Marc and Patricia.  
>
> From reading online, seems there are cases of people feeling worse even amongst those who did see a biological/holistic dentist who specialized in mercury removal.  One biological dentist now discourages sick patients (CFS, MCS, etc.) from doing removals because even with suction devices, etc., disturbing the fillings at all seems to make patients who are already ill much worse.  Makes me kind of hesitant although I've also seen plenty of positive stories like the ones you two shared.  How "sick" would you two say you were at the time you did the removal?
>
> The dentist I'm scheduled to see looks good though I don't knwo anyone who has seen him.
> http://www.mitchmarderdds.com/marder.html
>
> Marc, I'm in your area, so I'd be curious to hear who did your removals.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Russ
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Stefanie Toth
All my Mercury fillings had been removed in 1994. I did it shortly before I went for a year to New York. When I arrived in New York I was almost 2 months deadly ill. Finally people would send me to a Chinese doctor to China Town :-) . There I got my first acupuncture and it was a miracle, how it worked. After I recovered, till now, I never got some of this horrible infections I had during my whole childhood, and because of it 3 operations between being 14 and 21. All doctors during this time just would always say: they do not know what's wrong with me.

It is interesting after all these years finally finding out, what actually was going on or is going on. I am now wondering I might still have a Mercury problem which is connected to my EMF problem.

Stefanie


--- Marc Martin <[hidden email]> schrieb am Fr, 18.1.2013:

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      I was pretty bad off at the time of my removals.  I had been worse in the months prior, but my naturopath thought that I needed improved liver function before getting my amalgams removed (although in retrospect, I think I would have been better off getting them out sooner rather than later).



But yes, you may indeed feel worse afterwards if you are not doing anything to support the removal of mercury from your body.  I know that I felt awful for a couple weeks after the removal, and that my body was obviously "dumping" toxins, but I think my case is a bit atypical.



Dr. Mitch Marder in Seattle is actually the dentist that I've been going to for the past couple years.  However, the person who did my amalgam removals 12 years ago was Dr Paul Rubin, who works in the same office.  There are several holistic dentists in the Seattle area, and these two are probably amongst the best.



Also, Seattle has plenty of practitioners to help out with nutrition and mercury detox.  I know that people travel from all around the country to see Julie Anderson (Nurse Practitioner), because she is familiar with Andy Cutler's protocols.  And also Dr. Klinghardt practices here, who is also famous worldwide (but philosophically at the other end of the spectrum compared to Cutler).  I go to neither of these, but have been seeing a clinical nutritionist on the eastside for the past several years.



Marc



On January 18, russel395 [hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for the info Marc and Patricia.  

>

> From reading online, seems there are cases of people feeling worse even amongst those who did see a biological/holistic dentist who specialized in mercury removal.  One biological dentist now discourages sick patients (CFS, MCS, etc.) from doing removals because even with suction devices, etc., disturbing the fillings at all seems to make patients who are already ill much worse.  Makes me kind of hesitant although I've also seen plenty of positive stories like the ones you two shared.  How "sick" would you two say you were at the time you did the removal?

>

> The dentist I'm scheduled to see looks good though I don't knwo anyone who has seen him.

> http://www.mitchmarderdds.com/marder.html

>

> Marc, I'm in your area, so I'd be curious to hear who did your removals.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Russ

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>



   
     

   
   






 










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Patricia
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hi, russ.
i honestly can't recall when exactly i had them out
and what exactly was going on during that time.  
but i know that my memory returned after years
of being gone.  :)  i could again remember phone
numbers, names, etc.  
i looked at your dentist's blog and it is heartening.  
he understands the problems of amalgam fillings
and fluoride, and other things that are important
to me.  i wouldn't be surprised if he might not be
aware of the 'energy' problem we deal with.  
but you might want to call his office and ask them
if he removes mercury fillings and what is his
procedure.  ?  that might make you feel better -
or know to find someone else.  ?  
it seemed to me that my dentist's assistant was
very very good at taking the mercury into her
tiny little magic wand vacuum cleaner, to minimize
the fallout from the mercury dust.  i do not
remember feeling bad after.  
i think at the time of the removal, i was medium
sick... not 'in bed sick' by any means, but also
not full of good energy and joy.  
wishing you a successful removal.  
love, patricia


On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:20 AM, russel395 wrote:

> From reading online, seems there are cases of people feeling worse even amongst those who did see a biological/holistic dentist who specialized in mercury removal.  One biological dentist now discourages sick patients (CFS, MCS, etc.) from doing removals because even with suction devices, etc., disturbing the fillings at all seems to make patients who are already ill much worse.  Makes me kind of hesitant although I've also seen plenty of positive stories like the ones you two shared.  How "sick" would you two say you were at the time you did the removal?
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> The dentist I'm scheduled to see looks good though I don't knwo anyone who has seen him.
> http://www.mitchmarderdds.com/marder.html


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Thanks Stephanie.  Do you think it was the mercury removal that made you deadly ill?  Do you think the removal helped at all?

Was it a specific kind of accupunture treatment that helped you so much or just your basic accupunture treatments?

Thanks!

Russ

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Thanks Patricia.  I hope I have as good of results as you!  Do you remember if you took any chelaters/detoxifiers after treatment?

This dentist does seem to have lots of experience with mercury removal and Marc confirmed that.  As Marc said, we are real lucky here in Seattle with all the alternative/holitic/naturaopathic physicians available to us.  He also seems well aware of MCS and at least partially aware of ES.  You can see on this page they built an office that is as environmentally friendly as possible as far as natural materials and minimizing chemicals and on the list of ideas they're working on is electro-magnetic field reduction.

http://www.mitchmarderdds.com/environmental.html

Russ

--- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett  wrote:

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> hi, russ.
> i honestly can't recall when exactly i had them out
> and what exactly was going on during that time.  
> but i know that my memory returned after years
> of being gone.  :)  i could again remember phone
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> i looked at your dentist's blog and it is heartening.  
> he understands the problems of amalgam fillings
> and fluoride, and other things that are important
> to me.  i wouldn't be surprised if he might not be
> aware of the 'energy' problem we deal with.  
> but you might want to call his office and ask them
> if he removes mercury fillings and what is his
> procedure.  ?  that might make you feel better -
> or know to find someone else.  ?  
> it seemed to me that my dentist's assistant was
> very very good at taking the mercury into her
> tiny little magic wand vacuum cleaner, to minimize
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> sick... not 'in bed sick' by any means, but also
> not full of good energy and joy.  
> wishing you a successful removal.  
> love, patricia
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> > The dentist I'm scheduled to see looks good though I don't knwo anyone who has seen him.
> > http://www.mitchmarderdds.com/marder.html
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Thanks Marc.  Good to know the dentist I'm seeing is a good one.  Do you have any opinion on the Cutler (ALA?) vs. Klinghardt (chlorella?) approaches to mercury detox?  Currently I find that any detox I try makes me feel worse, brings on a lot of neck pain.  So I've never been able to do a real detox program.

Russ

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> But yes, you may indeed feel worse afterwards if you are not doing anything to support the removal of mercury from your body.  I know that I felt awful for a couple weeks after the removal, and that my body was obviously "dumping" toxins, but I think my case is a bit atypical.
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> > Thanks for the info Marc and Patricia.  
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> > http://www.mitchmarderdds.com/marder.html
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