Great article on Mercury

On January 18, russel395 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> This dentist does seem to have lots of experience with mercury removal and Marc confirmed that.
> As Marc said, we are real lucky here in Seattle with all the alternative/holitic/naturaopathic
> physicians available to us.  He also seems well aware of MCS and at least partially aware of ES.  

Dr. Marder is aware of ES.

HOWEVER, in the last couple years he's made all of this staff wear wireless "communication
devices" so they can talk to each other (even though they are all within 50 feet of each
other!).  I do think this will bother some people with ES.  And of course, he's got
florescent lights and LCD screens nearby the dental chairs.  Although I'm sure you could
get him to turn off the LCD screen.

When I had my mercury fillings removed by Dr. Rubin 12 years ago, it was a much lower
tech environment, and I think they even turned off the florescent lighting for me after
I mentioned my sensitivity to EMF.

Marc

On January 18, russel395 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks Marc.  Good to know the dentist I'm seeing is a good one.  Do you have
> any opinion on the Cutler (ALA?) vs. Klinghardt (chlorella?) approaches to mercury
> detox?  Currently I find that any detox I try makes me feel worse, brings on a lot
> of neck pain.  So I've never been able to do a real detox program.

I cannot tolerate massive doses of chlorella as recommended by Klinghardt.  It
may make me feel better temporarily, but definitely worse by the next day and
over the long run.

I have been able to tolerate NDF, which is a chlorella/cilantro mixture, in small
amounts.  However, over the past 12 years I should have taken enough of
this to cure anyone, so I'm a bit skeptical at how well this actually gets stuff
out of your body.

I do tolerate ALA frequent dosing as per Cutler, and even see a trend towards
tolerating higher doses, and indication that this does indeed work.  I've seen
some minor indications that it is helpful over the long term.  However, I'd
think it'd take years (as in 5+ years) to be cured at the low doses I'm taking
(and I do get side effects at higher doses, and they'd don't recommend
dosing at levels that give bad side effects).

I think liquid zeolite probably also works, but again, I've found no way that
I can tolerate taking any significant amount of it for the long term.

The only time I tried doing small amounts of oral DMPS (frequent dosing), I
immediately got the flu which lasted for weeks.  Perhaps a coincidence, but
it has prevented me from trying it again.

Whatever you do, don't take alpha lipoic acid once per day, which is
something I was doing 12 years ago.  I think this will make any mercury-poisoned
person much worse.

And have a bottle of activated charcoal handy for after the mercury removal.
That's good for making you feel better temporarily.  Just verify you can tolerate
it first!

Marc

Thanks a ton Marc.  I currently take really really small amounts of powdered zeolite and if I was to add anything else it would probably be ALA and maybe try a liquid zeolite and see if that is better than the powdered stuff.

As far as chlorella...I'm a big believer that microbes are at the heart of many chronic health problems including environmental sensitivities and I've suspected that chlorella and other algae might feed some of the bad bacteria as algae are full of the type of nutrients they need.  Just an amateur theory though, I don't really know.

Russ

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On Jan 18, 2013, at 4:36 PM, russel395 wrote:

> Thanks Patricia.  I hope I have as good of results as you!  Do you remember if you took any chelaters/detoxifiers after treatment?

russ, at that time, i didn't... i wasn't knowledgable
enough... but if i had it done now, i certainly would.
i would use perhaps clay - bentonite - or keep
flushing myself with greens.  
>
> This dentist does seem to have lots of experience with mercury removal and Marc confirmed that.  As Marc said, we are real lucky here in Seattle with all the alternative/holitic/naturaopathic physicians available to us.  He also seems well aware of MCS and at least partially aware of ES.  You can see on this page they built an office that is as environmentally friendly as possible as far as natural materials and minimizing chemicals and on the list of ideas they're working on is electro-magnetic field reduction.

yes, i was impressed by his blog.  i had my fillings
removed in boulder - another 'hip' community.  
my dentist was best friends with the owner of two
local mega health food stores.  he was very good.
love, patricia

I would issue some caution with the use of Clay. It will also pull out the "good minerals" like Magnesium, Iodine, Selenium, ect. The body holds emergency reserves/ supplies of the above, and as many are already deficient in the above vital minerals; depleting this emergency supply can be dangerous. I have learned to do this "detox" thing another way.I supply the body with: Magnesium (using the Magnesium Chloride OIl- www.ancient-minerals.com)
Iodine (from www.magnascent.com)  Selenium, ect.Why? Simple logic: Had the body had adequate supplies of the above, heavy metaltoxicity would not have occurred, to the effect, that it did, in many cases. While this is not an absolute, by doing it "this" way, the body will naturallydetox, at a slower rate, which is a two for one.  Nurturing the body with the minerals it needs,and supporting both the Thyroidgland and the Adrenal glands.  Also, of importance here, is supporting the Kidneysand Liver.  Parsley tea is wonderful for the Kidneys, as is squeezing some real Lemon into a glassof room temperature water, and drinking this every day. ( a few glasses, and the water shouldbe free of Fluoride).Removing: wheat, dairy, processed foods, can be very helpful.Be vigilant about avoiding sources of Fluoride is also important.  Pick a day a week, or once a month, get some Organic veggies (celery, peppers, zucchini, cukes, ect)and eat all raw for a day. Some can do the fasting, but this way is easier for many. One can also putthese vegggies in a blender and puree them.  This gives the Liver time to rest, and clean house...especiallyif one can do this blended for 2-3 days! Milk thistle herb is also helpful for the Liver.  Grounding the body is also a great tool. Find a park or place of nature where the cell towers, ectare low...go barefoot and "ground" the body. Hugging a tree is also helpful.  Those who are not grounded, are more susceptible to emfs.  blessings, Lizzie To: [hidden email]
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On Jan 18, 2013, at 4:36 PM, russel395 wrote:



> Thanks Patricia.  I hope I have as good of results as you!  Do you remember if you took any chelaters/detoxifiers after treatment?



russ, at that time, i didn't... i wasn't knowledgable

enough... but if i had it done now, i certainly would.

i would use perhaps clay - bentonite - or keep

flushing myself with greens.  

>

> This dentist does seem to have lots of experience with mercury removal and Marc confirmed that.  As Marc said, we are real lucky here in Seattle with all the alternative/holitic/naturaopathic physicians available to us.  He also seems well aware of MCS and at least partially aware of ES.  You can see on this page they built an office that is as environmentally friendly as possible as far as natural materials and minimizing chemicals and on the list of ideas they're working on is electro-magnetic field reduction.



yes, i was impressed by his blog.  i had my fillings

removed in boulder - another 'hip' community.  

my dentist was best friends with the owner of two

local mega health food stores.  he was very good.

love, patricia



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> http://www.mitchmarderdds.com/environmental.html

>

> Russ

>

> --- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett  wrote:

>>

>> hi, russ.

>> i honestly can't recall when exactly i had them out

>> and what exactly was going on during that time.  

>> but i know that my memory returned after years

>> of being gone.  :)  i could again remember phone

>> numbers, names, etc.  

>> i looked at your dentist's blog and it is heartening.  

>> he understands the problems of amalgam fillings

>> and fluoride, and other things that are important

>> to me.  i wouldn't be surprised if he might not be

>> aware of the 'energy' problem we deal with.  

>> but you might want to call his office and ask them

>> if he removes mercury fillings and what is his

>> procedure.  ?  that might make you feel better -

>> or know to find someone else.  ?  

>> it seemed to me that my dentist's assistant was

>> very very good at taking the mercury into her

>> tiny little magic wand vacuum cleaner, to minimize

>> the fallout from the mercury dust.  i do not

>> remember feeling bad after.  

>> i think at the time of the removal, i was medium

>> sick... not 'in bed sick' by any means, but also

>> not full of good energy and joy.  

>> wishing you a successful removal.  

>> love, patricia

>>

>>

>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:20 AM, russel395 wrote:

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>>> From reading online, seems there are cases of people feeling worse even amongst those who did see a biological/holistic dentist who specialized in mercury removal.  One biological dentist now discourages sick patients (CFS, MCS, etc.) from doing removals because even with suction devices, etc., disturbing the fillings at all seems to make patients who are already ill much worse.  Makes me kind of hesitant although I've also seen plenty of positive stories like the ones you two shared.  How "sick" would you two say you were at the time you did the removal?

>>>

>>> The dentist I'm scheduled to see looks good though I don't knwo anyone who has seen him.

>>> http://www.mitchmarderdds.com/marder.html

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On January 18, russel395 <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Currently I find that any detox I try makes me feel worse, brings
> on a lot of neck pain.  So I've never been able to do a real detox program.

You said that you were taking powdered zeolite?  I found that liquid
zeolite caused me problems like neck pain... I think it's "a zeolite thing".
Every chelator seems to have it's own unique side effects, and
those side effects can change over time...

Marc

interesting.

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin  wrote:

thanks patricia.

--- In [hidden email], Patricia Robinett  wrote:

good information, lizzie.  thanks.  :)
love, patricia


On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Elizabeth thode wrote:

> I would issue some caution with the use of Clay. It will also pull out the "good minerals" like Magnesium, Iodine, Selenium, ect. The body holds emergency reserves/ supplies of the above, and as many are already deficient in the above vital minerals; depleting this emergency supply can be dangerous. I have learned to do this "detox" thing another way.I supply the body with: Magnesium (using the Magnesium Chloride OIl- www.ancient-minerals.com)
> Iodine (from www.magnascent.com)  Selenium, ect.Why? Simple logic: Had the body had adequate supplies of the above, heavy metaltoxicity would not have occurred, to the effect, that it did, in many cases. While this is not an absolute, by doing it "this" way, the body will naturallydetox, at a slower rate, which is a two for one.  Nurturing the body with the minerals it needs,and supporting both the Thyroidgland and the Adrenal glands.  Also, of importance here, is supporting the Kidneysand Liver. Parsley tea is wonderful for the Kidneys, as is squeezing some real Lemon into a glassof room temperature water, and drinking this every day. ( a few glasses, and the water shouldbe free of Fluoride).Removing: wheat, dairy, processed foods, can be very helpful.Be vigilant about avoiding sources of Fluoride is also important.  Pick a day a week, or once a month, get some Organic veggies (celery, peppers, zucchini, cukes, ect)and eat all raw for a day. Some can do the fasting, but thi
> s way is easier for many. One can also putthese vegggies in a blender and puree them.  This gives the Liver time to rest, and clean house...especiallyif one can do this blended for 2-3 days! Milk thistle herb is also helpful for the Liver.  Grounding the body is also a great tool. Find a park or place of nature where the cell towers, ectare low...go barefoot and "ground" the body. Hugging a tree is also helpful.  Those who are not grounded, are more susceptible to emfs.  blessings, Lizzie

Back at ya! Lizzie
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      good information, lizzie.  thanks.  :)

love, patricia



On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Elizabeth thode wrote:



> I would issue some caution with the use of Clay. It will also pull out the "good minerals" like Magnesium, Iodine, Selenium, ect. The body holds emergency reserves/ supplies of the above, and as many are already deficient in the above vital minerals; depleting this emergency supply can be dangerous. I have learned to do this "detox" thing another way.I supply the body with: Magnesium (using the Magnesium Chloride OIl- www.ancient-minerals.com)

> Iodine (from www.magnascent.com)  Selenium, ect.Why? Simple logic: Had the body had adequate supplies of the above, heavy metaltoxicity would not have occurred, to the effect, that it did, in many cases. While this is not an absolute, by doing it "this" way, the body will naturallydetox, at a slower rate, which is a two for one.  Nurturing the body with the minerals it needs,and supporting both the Thyroidgland and the Adrenal glands.  Also, of importance here, is supporting the Kidneysand Liver. Parsley tea is wonderful for the Kidneys, as is squeezing some real Lemon into a glassof room temperature water, and drinking this every day. ( a few glasses, and the water shouldbe free of Fluoride).Removing: wheat, dairy, processed foods, can be very helpful.Be vigilant about avoiding sources of Fluoride is also important.  Pick a day a week, or once a month, get some Organic veggies (celery, peppers, zucchini, cukes, ect)and eat all raw for a day. Some can do the fasting, but thi

> s way is easier for many. One can also putthese vegggies in a blender and puree them.  This gives the Liver time to rest, and clean house...especiallyif one can do this blended for 2-3 days! Milk thistle herb is also helpful for the Liver.  Grounding the body is also a great tool. Find a park or place of nature where the cell towers, ectare low...go barefoot and "ground" the body. Hugging a tree is also helpful.  Those who are not grounded, are more susceptible to emfs.  blessings, Lizzie





   
     

   
   






       

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