Genetic link?

> Hi all,
>
> I have to share I have a copy of the MTFHR genetic mutation. I have the
> A1298C that predisposed to neurological issues.
>
> I do not know if anyone studied
> whether this mutation predisposes to ES, but it makes sense w the
> neurological sensitivities.
>
> I can bypass it by taking a metholated folate for the rest of my life.
>
> One of the other MTFHR mutations predisposes for heat disease. I think all
> of us should
> get tested.
>
> This does explain why I have a child with autism.
>
> Here's a good site, & video. It can be confusing.
>
>
> Kathy
>

> **
>
>
> Hi Kathy,
>
> You said this connects with autism. Alzheimer's, especially early onset.
> as well, do you suppose?
>
> Cheryl
>
> --- On Mon, 1/28/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
> Subject: [eSens] Genetic link?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 2:39 PM
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have to share I have a copy of the MTFHR genetic mutation. I have the
>
> A1298C that predisposed to neurological issues.
>
> I do not know if anyone studied
>
> whether this mutation predisposes to ES, but it makes sense w the
>
> neurological sensitivities.
>
> I can bypass it by taking a metholated folate for the rest of my life.
>
> One of the other MTFHR mutations predisposes for heat disease. I think all
>
> of us should
>
> get tested.
>
> This does explain why I have a child with autism.
>
> Here's a good site, & video. It can be confusing.
>
> Kathy
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>

>
>
> Interesting. I just read the 45
> page report. Over the years,
>
> I've read many reports pointing
> the finger at genes.
>
> What
>
> I find interesting is, the people
> who have inherited genetic
>
> traits, who didn't get the
> disease/condition.
>
>
>
> One case in particular caught my
> attention.
>
> starfishproject.wordpress.com/.../country-doctor-cures-cancer-with-b...
>
> This tells the story of 5
> sisters- 4 who all died of breast cancer. The
>
> one who didn't, did something
> different.
>
>
>
> My point here is that genes are
> not an absolute written in stone
>
> factor.
>
> I do agree that the Methylation
> process is a factor,
>
> but I see it more,  as a symptom.
>
>
>
> Mercury is well known to inhibit
> the process of methylation. And emfs
>
> play a huge role in heavy metals.
>
>
>
>
> And as much as it would simplify
> things, to have a genetic factor,
>
> that causes many conditions
> .....As these genetic tests weren’t available
>
> decades ago, we can’t really know
> with certainty, how common this
>
> was back then.
>
>
>
> So now I ask the question: could
> there BE another common denominator playing a role  in ES?  One
> that is not gene related.
>
>
>
> Think about this:
>
>
>
> Chemicals/pesticides/ mercury
> vaccines/mercury
>
> Fillings/ toxic waters/ plastic
> foods/ GMO’s/ ect...were in our environment
>
> before the cell phone
> proliferation.
>
> What we didn’t have 20-25 years
> ago, were the sky high rates of chronic health conditions.
>
>
>
> What this tells me.... is that it’s
> not the genes, it’s the environment.
>
>
>
> Dr. Klinghardt states that 80% of
> all the chronic health conditions
>
> he and his two medical practices
> are seeing today, (one clinic is in
>
> Seattle, I think, and the other
> clinic is in Europe)....
>
> 80% of all chronic health
> conditions seen today are caused by
>
> emfs, is what Klinghardt says. I
> agree with him.
>
>
>
> Why?
>
> Take away the emfs and people
> tend to heal. The problem is,
>
> this planet has been bathed in
> emfs.
>
>
>
> The solution?
>
>
>
> To call for the clean, safe,
> advanced technologies.
>
> This covers: electricity,
> heating, advanced healing techniques, and
>
> telecom communications. It means
> getting rid of this 100 year old
>
> antiquidated grid system too!
>
>
>
> Never under estimate the powers of both prayer and imagination!Blessings,
>
> Lizzie
>

> To: [hidden email]
> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:37:42 -0600
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Genetic link?
>
> Elizabeth,
>
> I said it wrong.  Genes are only 50% risk, food & environment the other
> 50%.  It's still good to test for MTHFR, since it can be corrected or
> bypassed w the right supplement.
>
>  If somone has  it & is not bypassing it, it causes genetic reactions to
> missfire or overfire. So, everyone can eat the best foods, best
> supplements, have a low emf home, no wireless & still become ill.
>
> Kathy
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Interesting. I just read the 45
> > page report. Over the years,
> >
> > I've read many reports pointing
> > the finger at genes.
> >
> > What
> >
> > I find interesting is, the people
> > who have inherited genetic
> >
> > traits, who didn't get the
> > disease/condition.
> >
> >
> >
> > One case in particular caught my
> > attention.
> >
> > starfishproject.wordpress.com/.../country-doctor-cures-cancer-with-b...
> >
> > This tells the story of 5
> > sisters- 4 who all died of breast cancer. The
> >
> > one who didn't, did something
> > different.
> >
> >
> >
> > My point here is that genes are
> > not an absolute written in stone
> >
> > factor.
> >
> > I do agree that the Methylation
> > process is a factor,
> >
> > but I see it more,  as a symptom.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mercury is well known to inhibit
> > the process of methylation. And emfs
> >
> > play a huge role in heavy metals.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > And as much as it would simplify
> > things, to have a genetic factor,
> >
> > that causes many conditions
> > .....As these genetic tests weren’t available
> >
> > decades ago, we can’t really know
> > with certainty, how common this
> >
> > was back then.
> >
> >
> >
> > So now I ask the question: could
> > there BE another common denominator playing a role  in ES?  One
> > that is not gene related.
> >
> >
> >
> > Think about this:
> >
> >
> >
> > Chemicals/pesticides/ mercury
> > vaccines/mercury
> >
> > Fillings/ toxic waters/ plastic
> > foods/ GMO’s/ ect...were in our environment
> >
> > before the cell phone
> > proliferation.
> >
> > What we didn’t have 20-25 years
> > ago, were the sky high rates of chronic health conditions.
> >
> >
> >
> > What this tells me.... is that it’s
> > not the genes, it’s the environment.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr. Klinghardt states that 80% of
> > all the chronic health conditions
> >
> > he and his two medical practices
> > are seeing today, (one clinic is in
> >
> > Seattle, I think, and the other
> > clinic is in Europe)....
> >
> > 80% of all chronic health
> > conditions seen today are caused by
> >
> > emfs, is what Klinghardt says. I
> > agree with him.
> >
> >
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Take away the emfs and people
> > tend to heal. The problem is,
> >
> > this planet has been bathed in
> > emfs.
> >
> >
> >
> > The solution?
> >
> >
> >
> > To call for the clean, safe,
> > advanced technologies.
> >
> > This covers: electricity,
> > heating, advanced healing techniques, and
> >
> > telecom communications. It means
> > getting rid of this 100 year old
> >
> > antiquidated grid system too!
> >
> >
> >
> > Never under estimate the powers of both prayer and imagination!Blessings,
> >
> > Lizzie
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

> To:  [hidden email]
> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Mon,  28 Jan 2013 21:37:42 -0600
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Genetic  link?
>
> Elizabeth,
>
> I said it wrong.   Genes are only 50% risk, food & environment the other
> 50%.   It's still good to test for MTHFR, since it can be corrected or
>  bypassed w the right supplement.
>
>  If somone has  it  & is not bypassing it, it causes genetic reactions to
> missfire or  overfire. So, everyone can eat the best foods, best
> supplements, have  a low emf home, no wireless & still become ill.
>
>  Kathy
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Elizabeth thode  

>
> >
> >
>  > Interesting. I just read the 45
> > page report. Over the  years,
> >
> > I've read many reports pointing
> >  the finger at genes.
> >
> > What
> >
> >  I find interesting is, the people
> > who have inherited  genetic
> >
> > traits, who didn't get the
> >  disease/condition.
> >
> >
> >
> > One  case in particular caught my
> > attention.
> >
> >  starfishproject.wordpress.com/.../country-doctor-cures-cancer-with-b...
>  >
> > This tells the story of 5
> > sisters- 4 who all  died of breast cancer. The
> >
> > one who didn't, did  something
> > different.
> >
> >
>  >
> > My point here is that genes are
> > not an absolute  written in stone
> >
> > factor.
> >
> > I  do agree that the Methylation
> > process is a factor,
>  >
> > but I see it more,  as a symptom.
> >
>  >
> >
> > Mercury is well known to inhibit
> >  the process of methylation. And emfs
> >
> > play a huge  role in heavy metals.
> >
> >
> >
>  >
> > And as much as it would simplify
> > things, to  have a genetic factor,
> >
> > that causes many  conditions
> > .....As these genetic tests weren’t available
>  >
> > decades ago, we can’t really know
> > with  certainty, how common this
> >
> > was back then.
>  >
> >
> >
> > So now I ask the question:  could
> > there BE another common denominator playing a role  in  ES?  One
> > that is not gene related.
> >
>  >
> >
> > Think about this:
> >
>  >
> >
> > Chemicals/pesticides/ mercury
> >  vaccines/mercury
> >
> > Fillings/ toxic waters/  plastic
> > foods/ GMO’s/ ect...were in our environment
>  >
> > before the cell phone
> > proliferation.
>  >
> > What we didn’t have 20-25 years
> > ago, were the  sky high rates of chronic health conditions.
> >
> >
>  >
> > What this tells me.... is that it’s
> > not the  genes, it’s the environment.
> >
> >
> >
>  > Dr. Klinghardt states that 80% of
> > all the chronic health  conditions
> >
> > he and his two medical practices
>  > are seeing today, (one clinic is in
> >
> > Seattle, I  think, and the other
> > clinic is in Europe)....
>  >
> > 80% of all chronic health
> > conditions seen today  are caused by
> >
> > emfs, is what Klinghardt says.  I
> > agree with him.
> >
> >
> >
>  > Why?
> >
> > Take away the emfs and people
> >  tend to heal. The problem is,
> >
> > this planet has been  bathed in
> > emfs.
> >
> >
> >
>  > The solution?
> >
> >
> >
> > To call  for the clean, safe,
> > advanced technologies.
> >
>  > This covers: electricity,
> > heating, advanced healing  techniques, and
> >
> > telecom communications. It  means
> > getting rid of this 100 year old
> >
> >  antiquidated grid system too!
> >
> >
> >
>  > Never under estimate the powers of both prayer and  

> >
> > Lizzie
> >
>  
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been  removed]
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups  Links
>
>
>

>
>
>
>
>
> It just doesn't ring true to me.
>
> There's so much info out there.
>
> Here is a good example below.
>
>
>
> Look at
> the MTHFR chart, and compare it to the one below, which is from Mercola’s
> article on Vit D deficiencies.
>
>  MTHFR
> chart .
>
>
>
>
>   (Diabetes/ Cancer/Pulmonary embolisms/ Cleft
>   palette/ Spina Sifida/ Autism/Parkinsons/ Neural Tube defects/
>   Atherosclerosis/ Immune Def/ ADD/ADHD/MS/Alzheimers/Dementia/Chem
> Sens/Congenital
>   Heart Defects/Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue
>   Synd/Depression/Alcoholism/Addictive behaviors/Insomnia/Down’s
>   Syndrome/Chronic Viral infections/Thyroid
> Dysfunction/Neuropathy/recurrent
>   miscarriages/Infertility/Anxiety/Schizophrenia/ Bipolar/Allergies
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And
> probably over 75% of the
> ones listed above are mercury related.
>
>
>
>
>
> www.mercola.com/article/vitamin-d-resources.htm
>
>
>
> There are only 30,000 genes in your body and vitamin D has
> been shown to influence over 2,000 of them. That is one of the primary
> reasons
> it influences so many diseases (as seen in the table below).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   Cancer
>
>
>   Hypertension
>
>
>   Heart disease
>
>
>
>
>   Autism
>
>
>   Obesity
>
>
>   Rheumatoid arthritis
>
>
>
>
>   Diabetes
>   1 and 2
>
>
>   Multiple Sclerosis
>
>
>   Crohn"s disease
>
>
>
>
>   Flu
>
>
>   Colds
>
>
>   Tuberculosis
>
>
>
>
>   Septicemia
>
>
>   Aging
>
>
>   Psoriasis
>
>
>
>
>   Eczema
>
>
>   Insomnia
>
>
>   Hearing loss
>
>
>
>
>   Muscle pain
>
>
>   Cavities
>
>
>   Periodontal disease
>
>
>
>
>   Athletic performance
>
>
>   Macular degeneration
>
>
>   Myopia
>
>
>
>
>   Pre eclampsia
>
>
>   Seizures
>
>
>   Fertility
>
>
>
>
>   Asthma
>
>
>   Cystic fibrosis
>
>
>   Migraines
>
>
>
>
>   Depression
>
>
>   Alzheimer"s disease
>
>
>   Schizophrenia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I just think that the MTHFR info, is
> incomplete, at best. There are way too many others factors that play roles.
>
> For me, it’s too easy to blame
> everything on genes and genetics.
>
>
>
> Lizzie
>
>
>
> > To: [hidden email]
> > From: [hidden email]
> > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:37:42 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Genetic link?
> >
> > Elizabeth,
> >
> > I said it wrong.  Genes are only 50% risk, food & environment the other
> > 50%.  It's still good to test for MTHFR, since it can be corrected or
> > bypassed w the right supplement.
> >
> >  If somone has  it & is not bypassing it, it causes genetic reactions to
> > missfire or overfire. So, everyone can eat the best foods, best
> > supplements, have a low emf home, no wireless & still become ill.
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]
> >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting. I just read the 45
> > > page report. Over the years,
> > >
> > > I've read many reports pointing
> > > the finger at genes.
> > >
> > > What
> > >
> > > I find interesting is, the people
> > > who have inherited genetic
> > >
> > > traits, who didn't get the
> > > disease/condition.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > One case in particular caught my
> > > attention.
> > >
> > > starfishproject.wordpress.com/.../country-doctor-cures-cancer-with-b.
> ..
> > >
> > > This tells the story of 5
> > > sisters- 4 who all died of breast cancer. The
> > >
> > > one who didn't, did something
> > > different.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My point here is that genes are
> > > not an absolute written in stone
> > >
> > > factor.
> > >
> > > I do agree that the Methylation
> > > process is a factor,
> > >
> > > but I see it more,  as a symptom.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mercury is well known to inhibit
> > > the process of methylation. And emfs
> > >
> > > play a huge role in heavy metals.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And as much as it would simplify
> > > things, to have a genetic factor,
> > >
> > > that causes many conditions
> > > .....As these genetic tests weren’t available
> > >
> > > decades ago, we can’t really know
> > > with certainty, how common this
> > >
> > > was back then.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So now I ask the question: could
> > > there BE another common denominator playing a role  in ES?  One
> > > that is not gene related.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Think about this:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chemicals/pesticides/ mercury
> > > vaccines/mercury
> > >
> > > Fillings/ toxic waters/ plastic
> > > foods/ GMO’s/ ect...were in our environment
> > >
> > > before the cell phone
> > > proliferation.
> > >
> > > What we didn’t have 20-25 years
> > > ago, were the sky high rates of chronic health conditions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What this tells me.... is that it’s
> > > not the genes, it’s the environment.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr. Klinghardt states that 80% of
> > > all the chronic health conditions
> > >
> > > he and his two medical practices
> > > are seeing today, (one clinic is in
> > >
> > > Seattle, I think, and the other
> > > clinic is in Europe)....
> > >
> > > 80% of all chronic health
> > > conditions seen today are caused by
> > >
> > > emfs, is what Klinghardt says. I
> > > agree with him.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Why?
> > >
> > > Take away the emfs and people
> > > tend to heal. The problem is,
> > >
> > > this planet has been bathed in
> > > emfs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The solution?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To call for the clean, safe,
> > > advanced technologies.
> > >
> > > This covers: electricity,
> > > heating, advanced healing techniques, and
> > >
> > > telecom communications. It means
> > > getting rid of this 100 year old
> > >
> > > antiquidated grid system too!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Never under estimate the powers of both prayer and
> imagination!Blessings,
> > >
> > > Lizzie
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

> **
>
>
> Hi Kathy,
>
> So you re prone to ALZ and Parkinson's unless you take the folate? Am I
> understanding you correctly? My brain has beeen a bit foggy lately but I
> find this very interesting.
>
> Cheryl
>
> --- On Mon, 1/28/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Genetic link?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 4:52 PM
>
>
>
> Cheryl,
>
> Yes, it sure does correlate with Autism, Alzheimers, Parkinson's, etc.
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Cheryl Griffing
>
> [hidden email]>wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi Kathy,
>
> >
>
> > You said this connects with autism. Alzheimer's, especially early onset.
>
> > as well, do you suppose?
>
> >
>
> > Cheryl
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 1/28/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
>
> > Subject: [eSens] Genetic link?
>
> > To: [hidden email]
>
> > Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 2:39 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi all,
>
> >
>
> > I have to share I have a copy of the MTFHR genetic mutation. I have the
>
> >
>
> > A1298C that predisposed to neurological issues.
>
> >
>
> > I do not know if anyone studied
>
> >
>
> > whether this mutation predisposes to ES, but it makes sense w the
>
> >
>
> > neurological sensitivities.
>
> >
>
> > I can bypass it by taking a metholated folate for the rest of my life.
>
> >
>
> > One of the other MTFHR mutations predisposes for heat disease. I think
> all
>
> >
>
> > of us should
>
> >
>
> > get tested.
>
> >
>
> > This does explain why I have a child with autism.
>
> >
>
> > Here's a good site, & video. It can be confusing.
>
> >
>
> > Kathy
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>

> From: [hidden email]
> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:17:25 -0600
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Genetic link?
>
> I'm not backing down on my belief that all should be tested. Of course we
> need vit D & many good supplements.
>
> The big issue w mercury or any toxin, IF you have this genetic defect, your
> body will mess up it's ceullular reaction, unless you correct it.   There
> is a list of medcines that should not be taken if you have MTHFR, including
> most anesthetics.  This part is huge.
>
>  Countries could prevent autism in many. The vaccine schedule now is so so
> toxic
>
> . A mother friend told me who has 2 copies of the worst MTFHR defect that
> she has 3 sons. The 2 born in the 80's didn't get autism. Even with her
> defect, her son's could handle the vaccine schedule of the 80's. The 90's
> introduced the Hepatitis B & a few others.
>
> Kathy
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It just doesn't ring true to me.
> >
> > There's so much info out there.
> >
> > Here is a good example below.
> >
> >
> >
> > Look at
> > the MTHFR chart, and compare it to the one below, which is from Mercola’s
> > article on Vit D deficiencies.
> >
> >  MTHFR
> > chart .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   (Diabetes/ Cancer/Pulmonary embolisms/ Cleft
> >   palette/ Spina Sifida/ Autism/Parkinsons/ Neural Tube defects/
> >   Atherosclerosis/ Immune Def/ ADD/ADHD/MS/Alzheimers/Dementia/Chem
> > Sens/Congenital
> >   Heart Defects/Fibromyalgia/Chronic Fatigue
> >   Synd/Depression/Alcoholism/Addictive behaviors/Insomnia/Down’s
> >   Syndrome/Chronic Viral infections/Thyroid
> > Dysfunction/Neuropathy/recurrent
> >   miscarriages/Infertility/Anxiety/Schizophrenia/ Bipolar/Allergies
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > And
> > probably over 75% of the
> > ones listed above are mercury related.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > www.mercola.com/article/vitamin-d-resources.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > There are only 30,000 genes in your body and vitamin D has
> > been shown to influence over 2,000 of them. That is one of the primary
> > reasons
> > it influences so many diseases (as seen in the table below).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Cancer
> >
> >
> >   Hypertension
> >
> >
> >   Heart disease
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Autism
> >
> >
> >   Obesity
> >
> >
> >   Rheumatoid arthritis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Diabetes
> >   1 and 2
> >
> >
> >   Multiple Sclerosis
> >
> >
> >   Crohn"s disease
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Flu
> >
> >
> >   Colds
> >
> >
> >   Tuberculosis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Septicemia
> >
> >
> >   Aging
> >
> >
> >   Psoriasis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Eczema
> >
> >
> >   Insomnia
> >
> >
> >   Hearing loss
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Muscle pain
> >
> >
> >   Cavities
> >
> >
> >   Periodontal disease
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Athletic performance
> >
> >
> >   Macular degeneration
> >
> >
> >   Myopia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Pre eclampsia
> >
> >
> >   Seizures
> >
> >
> >   Fertility
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Asthma
> >
> >
> >   Cystic fibrosis
> >
> >
> >   Migraines
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Depression
> >
> >
> >   Alzheimer"s disease
> >
> >
> >   Schizophrenia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I just think that the MTHFR info, is
> > incomplete, at best. There are way too many others factors that play roles.
> >
> > For me, it’s too easy to blame
> > everything on genes and genetics.
> >
> >
> >
> > Lizzie
> >
> >
> >
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > From: [hidden email]
> > > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:37:42 -0600
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Genetic link?
> > >
> > > Elizabeth,
> > >
> > > I said it wrong.  Genes are only 50% risk, food & environment the other
> > > 50%.  It's still good to test for MTHFR, since it can be corrected or
> > > bypassed w the right supplement.
> > >
> > >  If somone has  it & is not bypassing it, it causes genetic reactions to
> > > missfire or overfire. So, everyone can eat the best foods, best
> > > supplements, have a low emf home, no wireless & still become ill.
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Interesting. I just read the 45
> > > > page report. Over the years,
> > > >
> > > > I've read many reports pointing
> > > > the finger at genes.
> > > >
> > > > What
> > > >
> > > > I find interesting is, the people
> > > > who have inherited genetic
> > > >
> > > > traits, who didn't get the
> > > > disease/condition.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One case in particular caught my
> > > > attention.
> > > >
> > > > starfishproject.wordpress.com/.../country-doctor-cures-cancer-with-b.
> > ..
> > > >
> > > > This tells the story of 5
> > > > sisters- 4 who all died of breast cancer. The
> > > >
> > > > one who didn't, did something
> > > > different.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My point here is that genes are
> > > > not an absolute written in stone
> > > >
> > > > factor.
> > > >
> > > > I do agree that the Methylation
> > > > process is a factor,
> > > >
> > > > but I see it more,  as a symptom.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mercury is well known to inhibit
> > > > the process of methylation. And emfs
> > > >
> > > > play a huge role in heavy metals.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And as much as it would simplify
> > > > things, to have a genetic factor,
> > > >
> > > > that causes many conditions
> > > > .....As these genetic tests weren’t available
> > > >
> > > > decades ago, we can’t really know
> > > > with certainty, how common this
> > > >
> > > > was back then.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So now I ask the question: could
> > > > there BE another common denominator playing a role  in ES?  One
> > > > that is not gene related.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Think about this:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chemicals/pesticides/ mercury
> > > > vaccines/mercury
> > > >
> > > > Fillings/ toxic waters/ plastic
> > > > foods/ GMO’s/ ect...were in our environment
> > > >
> > > > before the cell phone
> > > > proliferation.
> > > >
> > > > What we didn’t have 20-25 years
> > > > ago, were the sky high rates of chronic health conditions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What this tells me.... is that it’s
> > > > not the genes, it’s the environment.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dr. Klinghardt states that 80% of
> > > > all the chronic health conditions
> > > >
> > > > he and his two medical practices
> > > > are seeing today, (one clinic is in
> > > >
> > > > Seattle, I think, and the other
> > > > clinic is in Europe)....
> > > >
> > > > 80% of all chronic health
> > > > conditions seen today are caused by
> > > >
> > > > emfs, is what Klinghardt says. I
> > > > agree with him.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why?
> > > >
> > > > Take away the emfs and people
> > > > tend to heal. The problem is,
> > > >
> > > > this planet has been bathed in
> > > > emfs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The solution?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To call for the clean, safe,
> > > > advanced technologies.
> > > >
> > > > This covers: electricity,
> > > > heating, advanced healing techniques, and
> > > >
> > > > telecom communications. It means
> > > > getting rid of this 100 year old
> > > >
> > > > antiquidated grid system too!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Never under estimate the powers of both prayer and
> > imagination!Blessings,
> > > >
> > > > Lizzie
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

> **
>
>
> Hi Katy,
>
> Would this be beneficial for anybody to take that has E.S.? Or only those
> with that gene structure?
>
> Cheryl
>
> --- On Tue, 1/29/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Genetic link?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 8:31 AM
>
>
>
> Yes, a methylated folate.
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Cheryl Griffing
>
> [hidden email]>wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi Kathy,
>
> >
>
> > So you re prone to ALZ and Parkinson's unless you take the folate? Am I
>
> > understanding you correctly? My brain has beeen a bit foggy lately but I
>
> > find this very interesting.
>
> >
>
> > Cheryl
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 1/28/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Genetic link?
>
> > To: [hidden email]
>
> > Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 4:52 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Cheryl,
>
> >
>
> > Yes, it sure does correlate with Autism, Alzheimers, Parkinson's, etc.
>
> >
>
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Cheryl Griffing
>
> >
>
> > [hidden email]>wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > **
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Hi Kathy,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > You said this connects with autism. Alzheimer's, especially early
> onset.
>
> >
>
> > > as well, do you suppose?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Cheryl
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > --- On Mon, 1/28/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Genetic link?
>
> >
>
> > > To: [hidden email]
>
> >
>
> > > Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 2:39 PM
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Hi all,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I have to share I have a copy of the MTFHR genetic mutation. I have the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > A1298C that predisposed to neurological issues.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I do not know if anyone studied
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > whether this mutation predisposes to ES, but it makes sense w the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > neurological sensitivities.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I can bypass it by taking a metholated folate for the rest of my life.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > One of the other MTFHR mutations predisposes for heat disease. I think
>
> > all
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > of us should
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > get tested.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > This does explain why I have a child with autism.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Here's a good site, & video. It can be confusing.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Kathy
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>  
>

> with that gene structure?
>
> Cheryl
>
> --- On Tue, 1/29/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Genetic link?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 8:31 AM
>
>
>
> Yes, a methylated folate.
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Cheryl Griffing
>
> [hidden email]>wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi Kathy,
>
> >
>
> > So you re prone to ALZ and Parkinson's unless you take the folate?  

>
> > find this very interesting.
>
> >
>
> > Cheryl
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 1/28/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Genetic link?
>
> > To: [hidden email]
>
> > Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 4:52 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Cheryl,
>
> >
>
> > Yes, it sure does correlate with Autism, Alzheimers, Parkinson's,  

>
> >
>
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Cheryl Griffing
>
> >
>
> > [hidden email]>wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > **
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Hi Kathy,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > You said this connects with autism. Alzheimer's, especially early
> onset.
>
> >
>
> > > as well, do you suppose?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Cheryl
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > --- On Mon, 1/28/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: [eSens] Genetic link?
>
> >
>
> > > To: [hidden email]
>
> >
>
> > > Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 2:39 PM
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Hi all,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I have to share I have a copy of the MTFHR genetic mutation. I  

>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > A1298C that predisposed to neurological issues.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I do not know if anyone studied
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > whether this mutation predisposes to ES, but it makes sense w the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > neurological sensitivities.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > I can bypass it by taking a metholated folate for the rest of my  

>
> > all
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > of us should
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > get tested.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > This does explain why I have a child with autism.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Here's a good site, & video. It can be confusing.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Kathy
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

> **
>
>
> I have had Dr. Amy Yasko's methylation genetic panel of testing done and
> do think its key to know your genetics! I do have the name of several
> practitioners and would recommend to consult with a professional as each
> person is very unique....however, if you have no money to do so, I
> recommend the Rich Konyenburg's Simplified Methylation protocol as
> described in this link....
>
> http://www.mecfsforums.com/wiki/Simplified_Methylation_Protocol,_Rich_Van
> _Konynenburg
>
> there's another test running for 99$ right now that tests for many of
> the sam genes, but just not 5 very important ones on how well you
> tolerate sulphur compounds for detox--Very important but also
> problematic for like 80% of population.......The test is called
> 23andme.com.....I would recoommend proffessional help in interpreting...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
> To: eSens [hidden email]>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 29, 2013 8:30 pm
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Genetic link?
>
> Cheryl,
>
> We all need folate daily. Our body can't store it.
>
> If you have this gene structure you can't take folate in the folic form.
> We
> can't process it. We need the Methalated form with methylated B-12 &
> P5P.
> I took antiacids for years that took my B-12 down.
>
> Folate, folic acid, and Pteroylglutamic acid, are names for a
> water-soluble
> vitamin (B9) critical for the normal functioning of our cells, and for
> the
> development of neurons. We use folate, working synergistically with
> vitamin
> B12 (cobalamin) and vitamin C to help break down, use, and create new
> proteins that are then used to form red blood cells and help produce
> DNA.
>
> Since folate is water-soluble, it is not stored in our bodies. Any
> excess
> is excreted out, so we need a daily fresh supply. Green leafy vegetables
> are rich in folate.
>
> * folate is involved in many different chemical pathways in the brain,
> including keeping levels of the amino acid homocysteine low. When
> homocysteine levels are too high, this interferes with the functioning
> of
> receptors located all over the brain -- called NMDA (
> N-methyl-D-aspartate)
> receptors -- that are critical to learning, memory, brain development,
> and
> general neural processing.*
>
> http://itsnotmental.blogspot.com/2008/06/nutrition-genes-and-brain-dysfun
> ctions.html
>
> *Dr. Goff's team are looking at two genes: GCPII (glutamate
> carboxypeptidase II), which controls the absorption of folate and may be
> deficient in people with schizophrenia, and
>
> MTHFR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTHFR> (methylenetetrahydrofolate
> reductase), which activates folate for use in the brain. They are hoping
> to
> eventually be able to determine in advance, which people need the folate
> supplementation.*
>
> *�Dr. Roffman's team is looking at the combination of MTHFR and another
> gene -- COMT
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catechol-O-methyl_transferase>(catechol-O-m
> ethyltransferase)
> -- that affects dopamine levels in the
> brain. Although the two genes have separately been associated with
> schizophrenia, Dr. Roffman's just completed study finds that when these
> genes interact, a specific subset of patients is at greater risk for
> cognitive impairment.
>
> **In individuals who carry the risk variants of both MTHFR and COMT,
> lower-than-normal levels of dopamine in the part of the brain called the
> prefrontal cortex may cause problems with information processing and
> working memory.
>
> *
> *Prescription bioavailable (methylated) B vitamins are available:
> *
>
> - *Metanx http://www.metanx.com/> - In addition to the methylated
> folate (B9), contains methylated cobalamin (B12) and
> pyridoxal-5'-phosphate (P5P - an activated form of B6).*
> - *Deplin http://www.deplin.com/> - Contains only the methylated
> folate
> (B9)*
>
> However, there are also brands of methylated folate and vitamin B12
> available without a prescription, such as MetaFolin by Solgar and
> L-5-MTHF
> by Designs for Health http://www.designsforhealth.com/> and
> Methylcobalamin from Pure
> Encapsulationshttp://www.pureencapsulations.com/>
> .
>
> There are many other (at least 25 genetic errors already identified)
> that
> prevent methylation of folic acid--which is actually a complex process:
> Here
> is Folate Metabolism
> http://www.genome.jp/kegg/pathway/map/map00790.html>There are
> therefore other theories about enhancing the body's own ability
> to methylate, involving histamines and orthommolecular treatment, but
> that
> is too involved to go into here. You may want to investigate it
> yourself.
>
> *Drugs (medications) that deplete folate/folic acid (Vitamin B9)*
> include
> (see link for specifics):
>
> - Antacids (Sodium Bicarbonate)
> - Anti-inflammatory Medications (5-Aminosalicylic Acid Derivatives,
> Inhalant, Systemic, and Topical Corticosteroids, Nonsteroidal
> Anti-inflammatory Drugs (NSAIDs), Salicylates)
> - Antibiotic Medications
> - Anticonvulsant Medications
> - Antidiabetic Medications
> - Birth Control Medications
> - Cholesterol-Lowering Medications (Bile Acid Sequestrants)
> - Diuretics
> - Ulcer Medications
>
> ***Read More (Off-site): *
>
> - Dr Lyle Rawlins on MTHFR http://www.rawlins.org/mthfr/mthfr.html>
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Cheryl Griffing
> [hidden email]>wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Hi Katy,
> >
> > Would this be beneficial for anybody to take that has E.S.? Or only
> those
> > with that gene structure?
> >
> > Cheryl
> >
> > --- On Tue, 1/29/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] Genetic link?
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 8:31 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, a methylated folate.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Cheryl Griffing
> >
> > [hidden email]>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Hi Kathy,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > So you re prone to ALZ and Parkinson's unless you take the folate?
> Am I
> >
> > > understanding you correctly? My brain has beeen a bit foggy lately
> but I
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> > > find this very interesting.
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> > > Cheryl
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> > > --- On Mon, 1/28/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
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> > > From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
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> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Genetic link?
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> > > To: [hidden email]
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> > > Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 4:52 PM
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> > > Cheryl,
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> > > Yes, it sure does correlate with Autism, Alzheimers, Parkinson's,
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> > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Cheryl Griffing
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> > > > Hi Kathy,
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> > > > You said this connects with autism. Alzheimer's, especially early
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> > > > as well, do you suppose?
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> > > > Cheryl
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> > > > --- On Mon, 1/28/13, Kathy Baumann [hidden email]> wrote:
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> > > > From: Kathy Baumann [hidden email]>
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> > > > Subject: [eSens] Genetic link?
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> > > > To: [hidden email]
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> > > > Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 2:39 PM
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> > > > Hi all,
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> > > > I have to share I have a copy of the MTFHR genetic mutation. I
> have the
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> > > > A1298C that predisposed to neurological issues.
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> > > > I do not know if anyone studied
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> > > > whether this mutation predisposes to ES, but it makes sense w the
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> > > > I can bypass it by taking a metholated folate for the rest of my
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> > > > One of the other MTFHR mutations predisposes for heat disease. I
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> > > > This does explain why I have a child with autism.
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> > > > Here's a good site, & video. It can be confusing.
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