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angela england
WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVEN IF WE FILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS SO WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.

ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!

MIKE IN PHOENIX




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Re: GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS

BiBrun
If the fridge has no electronics (digital display or controls) then a
Stetzer filter will not help
(and could even make things slightly worse, as it distorts the 60Hz
frequency).

If she has chemical sensitivity cooking with gas indoors is a potential
problem.
Definitely should have an exhaust fan running (but a lot of them are bad emf
wise...
but if the blower has a nice squirrel cage shaded pole motor it should be
OK).
Try cooking on a gas grille outside if possible.

Bill

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:59 PM, angela england <[hidden email]>wrote:

> WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY
> OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVEN IF
> WE FILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS SO
> WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE
> WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN
> NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT
> DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.
>
> ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I
> INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSION OF
> NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE
> BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL
> HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH
> FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY
> (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
>
> MIKE IN PHOENIX
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Re: GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS

evie15422
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Hi, Mike,
 
I do not know whether Stetzer filters will work or not.  It probably depends on the reason your wife reacts to your fridge.  Do you know or have you sorted out what the problem is with the refrigerator?  I do not react to my current fridge.  However, when we were house hunting the past 2 years, I noticed I did react to most fridges in most homes.  I began to try to sort this out and these are my best hunches, tho certainly I could be wrong in some of these.....
 
Sometimes the fan on the fridge is what I felt bothered me--notice yesterday that Paul (PUK) sent a site which dealt with people who react to the frequency of fans, etc.
 
Sometimes I suspected digitalized components.  I noticed I react to digital components in fridges in appliance stores especially.  When I look at fridges there, the ones I seem to not react to are the old type manual control fridges.  All the fridges there have attrocious outgassing issues, but over-riding that, I get the headachy, anxious, confused feeling that I get from being around digital electronics.  
 
I noticed that quite a higher number of fridges in areas too close to cell towers bothered me and wondered if those houses might have dirty electric problems coming from outside (was not able to prove this).  So, in this case, I am guessing there are filter fixes that could work.
 
Of course, this could also be inside wiring issues leading to your fridge (or fridge wiring itself)--such as over loading the circuit or the wiring needing upgraded or an anomaly in your wiring....  I have found that to be the case in my current home with an a/c and a portable heater.  When they are plugged (separately) into one offending outlet, they bother me greatly.  They are fine plugged into another circuit. 
 
So, what I am saying is, I suspect that what leads to fridge issues results from more than one cause.  My own fridge here doesn't have a fan that bothers me, isn't digital, isn't subject to dirty electricity, and doesn't have a wiring issue.  Will that be the case in my home I am remodeling????  Only time will tell.  One thing I have considered was building thefridge in and using Hardiebacker or an absorption material around the case.  I also want to go with manual rather than digital controls, but these are now hard to find, esp if you want an updated model with a bottom freezer. 
 
Hope this helps you decide your needs,
Diane
 


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From: angela england <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:59 PM






WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVEN IF WEFILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS SO WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.

ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!

MIKE IN PHOENIX


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evie15422
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PS:  Congrats to your wife in her recovery!  And thanks for the ideas you have given us re clay, etc.  Interesting!

--- On Thu, 10/9/08, angela england <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: angela england <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:59 PM






WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVEN IF WEFILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS SO WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.

ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!

MIKE IN PHOENIX


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PUK
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In a message dated 10/9/2008 9:58:35 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:

I do not know whether Stetzer filters will work or not. It probably depends
on the reason your wife reacts to your fridge. Do you know or have you
sorted out what the problem is with the refrigerator? I do not react to my
current fridge. However, when we were house hunting the past 2 years, I noticed
I did react to most fridges in most homes. I began to try to sort this out
and these are my best hunches, tho certainly I could be wrong in some of
these.....



Check out Infrasound and say Vibrational Acoustic Disorder, perhaps the
sound from the fridge triggers ES pathways

PUK






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Re: minerals

Marc Martin
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> THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A
> DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE
> MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT,
> CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON
> MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO
> TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE).

Yes, supplementing with mineral-rich foods/supplements certainly can be
helpful. I find magnesium and iodine-rich items particularly helpful.

I'm not suprised to see molasses or sea salt on your list, but where did
you read that grape juice was rich in minerals?

Marc

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Steph Smith
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if this seems like an idiot question please forgive my ignorance - I am genuinely interested - I have read about bentonite as a detoxing agent but am not sure what you are supposed to do with it - do you ingest it or add it to your bath [or both?]
 
Steph

--- On Thu, 9/10/08, angela england <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: angela england <[hidden email]>
Subject: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, 9 October, 2008, 6:59 PM






WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVEN IF WEFILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS SO WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.

ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!

MIKE IN PHOENIX


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Marc Martin
Administrator
> if this seems like an idiot question please forgive my ignorance - I am
> genuinely interested - I have read about bentonite as a detoxing agent
> but am not sure what you are supposed to do with it - do you ingest it or
> add it to your bath [or both?]

You can do both, although if you take it orally, it is sometimes recommended
to mix it with psyllium so that it doesn't get "stuck" in your digestive
tract. Also, when using it in a bath, I worry that it may clog up the
pipes...

Marc

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betty A


.. i would liek to know the difference between bentonite and zeolite?
 
ada
 
--- On Sun, 12/10/08, Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, 12 October, 2008, 8:05 AM






> if this seems like an idiot question please forgive my ignorance - I am
> genuinely interested - I have read about bentonite as a detoxing agent
> but am not sure what you are supposed to do with it - do you ingest it or
> add it to your bath [or both?]

You can do both, although if you take it orally, it is sometimes recommended
to mix it with psyllium so that it doesn't get "stuck" in your digestive
tract. Also, when using it in a bath, I worry that it may clog up the
pipes...

Marc
 














     

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Re: Bentonite and Zeolite

Marc Martin
Administrator
> i would liek to know the difference between bentonite and zeolite?

Superficially, bentonite and zeolite are similar in that they are
both minerals which attract toxins and drag them out of your system
via the large intestines. Activated charcoal is also similar in
this respect. (some of the zeolite products on the market today
have been broken down to a tiny particle size, under the assumption
that they will then enter the bloodstream and bind to toxins there.)

However, sensitive folks like us tend to find that things which are
supposedly similar can cause drastically different side effects.
Personally, I get all sorts of adverse effects from zeolite that
I don't get with bentonite (mostly muscle aches and dehydration).
I actually prefer activated charcoal the best, as for me it causes
the most "feel good" results and the least "feel bad" side effects.

Marc

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Re: minerals

angela england
In reply to this post by Marc Martin
Marc-
Red grape juice, preferably home made, was listed as a plant with deep roots that would reach the nutrients deep into the earth.--mike

Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
> THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A
> DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE
> MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT,
> CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON
> MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO
> TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE).

Yes, supplementing with mineral-rich foods/supplements certainly can be
helpful. I find magnesium and iodine-rich items particularly helpful.

I'm not suprised to see molasses or sea salt on your list, but where did
you read that grape juice was rich in minerals?

Marc






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meters again!

betty A
 thinking of buying a meter off ebay.. has anyone heard of this..








EMF RF LF Radiation AC Magnetic Field Power Gauss Meter
 it says it measures from 100 hz to 3 ghz, wondering if that will do the job , for cell masts , wifi, hotspots in the house, and microwaves.. andwiring in walls etc.
 
 
ada
 


When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!

"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown

--- On Tue, 14/10/08, angela england <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: angela england <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] minerals
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 6:32 AM






Marc-
Red grape juice, preferably home made, was listed as a plant with deep roots that would reach the nutrients deep into the earth.--mike

Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:
> THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A
> DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE
> MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT,
> CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON
> MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO
> TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE).

Yes, supplementing with mineral-rich foods/supplements certainly can be
helpful. I find magnesium and iodine-rich items particularly helpful.

I'm not suprised to see molasses or sea salt on your list, but where did
you read that grape juice was rich in minerals?

Marc

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Re: GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS

angela england
In reply to this post by Steph Smith
> if this seems like an idiot question please forgive my ignorance -
> I am genuinely interested - I have read about bentonite as a
> detoxing agent but am not sure what you are supposed to do with it
> - do you ingest it or add it to your bath [or both?]

Bentonite is used for oral ingestion. Green clay is for skin
rejuvenation and baths. Be careful with drinking bentonite. It is a
detoxing agent and you will have to be prepared for lots of bathroom
breaks!

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Re: meters again!

BiBrun
In reply to this post by betty A
Have never heard of it. Seems interesting for the
price.<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EMF-RF-Radiation-Field-Strength-Power-Meter-100MHz-3GHz_W0QQitemZ370097073697QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item370097073697&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14>
Might not be sensitive
enough for finding a good sanctuary, but should be able to detect a lot of
cell masts.
There's a lot to be said for avoiding the really strong exposures, and this
should allow that.
Hopefully it will pick up Wi-Fi but in standby mode wi-fi is not easy to
detect
because the pulses are short--but if the peak function works it could be
great.

Also note the magnetic field sensor is also not very sensitive... good
enough to
protect the general public and avoid bad exposure, but again not enough to
find
a good sanctuary. A $20 buzz stick is definitely more sensitive (but
doesn't give a number).
The Tri-Field with external probe is 500 times more sensitive.
If you buy it please report back.

Bill

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, ada iye <[hidden email]>wrote:

> thinking of buying a meter off ebay.. has anyone heard of this..
>
> EMF RF LF Radiation AC Magnetic Field Power Gauss Meter
> it says it measures from 100 hz to 3 ghz, wondering if that will do the
> job , for cell masts , wifi, hotspots in the house, and microwaves.. and
> wiring in walls etc.
>
>
> ada
>
>
> When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!
>
> "Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I
> have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."
>
> unknown
>
> --- On Tue, 14/10/08, angela england <[hidden email]<mariaaengland%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: angela england <[hidden email] <mariaaengland%40yahoo.com>>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] minerals
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 6:32 AM
>
> Marc-
> Red grape juice, preferably home made, was listed as a plant with deep
> roots that would reach the nutrients deep into the earth.--mike
>
> Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:
> > THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A
> > DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE
> > MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT,
> > CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON
> > MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO
> > TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE).
>
> Yes, supplementing with mineral-rich foods/supplements certainly can be
> helpful. I find magnesium and iodine-rich items particularly helpful.
>
> I'm not suprised to see molasses or sea salt on your list, but where did
> you read that grape juice was rich in minerals?
>
> Marc
>
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Re: meters again!

betty A
Bill sorry to keep bothering you with this- i actually am wanting to
get something that will give me a"good sanctuary" , so im debating
getting this and a buzz stick to start off with, and evolve to
something else down the line. what do you think?

ada



--- In [hidden email], "Bill Bruno" <wbruno@...> wrote:
>
> Have never heard of it. Seems interesting for the
> price.<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EMF-RF-Radiation-Field-Strength-Power-
Meter-100MHz-3GHz_W0QQitemZ370097073697QQcmdZViewItem?
hash=item370097073697&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%
3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14>
> Might not be sensitive
> enough for finding a good sanctuary, but should be able to detect
a lot of
> cell masts.
> There's a lot to be said for avoiding the really strong exposures,
and this
> should allow that.
> Hopefully it will pick up Wi-Fi but in standby mode wi-fi is not
easy to
> detect
> because the pulses are short--but if the peak function works it
could be
> great.
>
> Also note the magnetic field sensor is also not very sensitive...
good
> enough to
> protect the general public and avoid bad exposure, but again not
enough to
> find
> a good sanctuary. A $20 buzz stick is definitely more sensitive
(but
> doesn't give a number).
> The Tri-Field with external probe is 500 times more sensitive.
> If you buy it please report back.
>
> Bill
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, ada iye
<betty_starbuckle@...>wrote:
>
> > thinking of buying a meter off ebay.. has anyone heard of
this..
> >
> > EMF RF LF Radiation AC Magnetic Field Power Gauss Meter
> > it says it measures from 100 hz to 3 ghz, wondering if that
will do the
> > job , for cell masts , wifi, hotspots in the house, and
microwaves.. and
> > wiring in walls etc.
> >
> >
> > ada
> >
> >
> > When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!
> >
> > "Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect
Light, I
> > have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."
> >
> > unknown
> >
> > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, angela england
<mariaaengland@...<mariaaengland%40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: angela england <mariaaengland@... <mariaaengland%
40yahoo.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] minerals
> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 6:32 AM
> >
> > Marc-
> > Red grape juice, preferably home made, was listed as a plant
with deep
> > roots that would reach the nutrients deep into the earth.--mike
> >
> > Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:
> > > THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A
> > > DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL.
THESE ARE
> > > MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA
SALT,
> > > CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS
BEEN ON
> > > MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE
GOING TO
> > > TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE).
> >
> > Yes, supplementing with mineral-rich foods/supplements certainly
can be
> > helpful. I find magnesium and iodine-rich items particularly
helpful.
> >
> > I'm not suprised to see molasses or sea salt on your list, but
where did

> > you read that grape juice was rich in minerals?
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: meters again!

betty A
In reply to this post by BiBrun
is this whatyou mean by a buzz stick ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electromagnetic-Field-EMF-Gauss-Detector-Meter-
ELF-Zone_W0QQitemZ370097073720QQcmdZViewItem?
hash=item370097073720&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%
3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

ada




--- In [hidden email], "Bill Bruno" <wbruno@...> wrote:
>
> Have never heard of it. Seems interesting for the
> price.<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EMF-RF-Radiation-Field-Strength-Power-
Meter-100MHz-3GHz_W0QQitemZ370097073697QQcmdZViewItem?
hash=item370097073697&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%
3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14>
> Might not be sensitive
> enough for finding a good sanctuary, but should be able to detect
a lot of
> cell masts.
> There's a lot to be said for avoiding the really strong exposures,
and this
> should allow that.
> Hopefully it will pick up Wi-Fi but in standby mode wi-fi is not
easy to
> detect
> because the pulses are short--but if the peak function works it
could be
> great.
>
> Also note the magnetic field sensor is also not very sensitive...
good
> enough to
> protect the general public and avoid bad exposure, but again not
enough to
> find
> a good sanctuary. A $20 buzz stick is definitely more sensitive
(but
> doesn't give a number).
> The Tri-Field with external probe is 500 times more sensitive.
> If you buy it please report back.
>
> Bill
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, ada iye
<betty_starbuckle@...>wrote:
>
> > thinking of buying a meter off ebay.. has anyone heard of
this..
> >
> > EMF RF LF Radiation AC Magnetic Field Power Gauss Meter
> > it says it measures from 100 hz to 3 ghz, wondering if that
will do the
> > job , for cell masts , wifi, hotspots in the house, and
microwaves.. and
> > wiring in walls etc.
> >
> >
> > ada
> >
> >
> > When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!
> >
> > "Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect
Light, I
> > have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."
> >
> > unknown
> >
> > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, angela england
<mariaaengland@...<mariaaengland%40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: angela england <mariaaengland@... <mariaaengland%
40yahoo.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] minerals
> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 6:32 AM
> >
> > Marc-
> > Red grape juice, preferably home made, was listed as a plant
with deep
> > roots that would reach the nutrients deep into the earth.--mike
> >
> > Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:
> > > THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A
> > > DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL.
THESE ARE
> > > MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA
SALT,
> > > CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS
BEEN ON
> > > MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE
GOING TO
> > > TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE).
> >
> > Yes, supplementing with mineral-rich foods/supplements certainly
can be
> > helpful. I find magnesium and iodine-rich items particularly
helpful.
> >
> > I'm not suprised to see molasses or sea salt on your list, but
where did

> > you read that grape juice was rich in minerals?
> >
> > Marc
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >  
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: meters again!

BiBrun
In reply to this post by betty A
Sounds like a plan... you should experiment and see how good it is at
picking up wi-fi. If it's not too good Kensington has a dedicated wi-fi
detector for around $20 I think.

Beyond that it's hard to get anything sensitive enough, although
I can't predict whether the MW-1 Electrosmog detector for about $90
will do better than the one you found. It just gives sounds, no numbers,
and would miss unmodulated signals (although that may not matter).
And doesn't measure 50 hz AC fields.

I would like to have a very compact AC/microwave meter like that to
bring with me when I go out someplace new, so if it works as advertised
and doesn't emit horrible emfs of its own, it should be a good investment.
With any electronics it's a good idea to air it out for at least a day
(maybe
a week) before bringing indoors.


Bill

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:45 PM, betty_starbuckle <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Bill sorry to keep bothering you with this- i actually am wanting to
> get something that will give me a"good sanctuary" , so im debating
> getting this and a buzz stick to start off with, and evolve to
> something else down the line. what do you think?
>
> ada
>
>
> --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bill Bruno"
> <wbruno@...> wrote:
> >
> > Have never heard of it. Seems interesting for the
> > price.<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EMF-RF-Radiation-Field-Strength-Power-
> Meter-100MHz-3GHz_W0QQitemZ370097073697QQcmdZViewItem?
> hash=item370097073697&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%
> 3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14>
>
> > Might not be sensitive
> > enough for finding a good sanctuary, but should be able to detect
> a lot of
> > cell masts.
> > There's a lot to be said for avoiding the really strong exposures,
> and this
> > should allow that.
> > Hopefully it will pick up Wi-Fi but in standby mode wi-fi is not
> easy to
> > detect
> > because the pulses are short--but if the peak function works it
> could be
> > great.
> >
> > Also note the magnetic field sensor is also not very sensitive...
> good
> > enough to
> > protect the general public and avoid bad exposure, but again not
> enough to
> > find
> > a good sanctuary. A $20 buzz stick is definitely more sensitive
> (but
> > doesn't give a number).
> > The Tri-Field with external probe is 500 times more sensitive.
> > If you buy it please report back.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, ada iye
> <betty_starbuckle@...>wrote:
> >
> > > thinking of buying a meter off ebay.. has anyone heard of
> this..
> > >
> > > EMF RF LF Radiation AC Magnetic Field Power Gauss Meter
> > > it says it measures from 100 hz to 3 ghz, wondering if that
> will do the
> > > job , for cell masts , wifi, hotspots in the house, and
> microwaves.. and
> > > wiring in walls etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > ada
> > >
> > >
> > > When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!
> > >
> > > "Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect
> Light, I
> > > have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."
> > >
> > > unknown
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, angela england
> <mariaaengland@...<mariaaengland%40yahoo.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: angela england <mariaaengland@... <mariaaengland%
> 40yahoo.com>>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] minerals
> > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> <eSens%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
>
> > > Date: Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 6:32 AM
> > >
> > > Marc-
> > > Red grape juice, preferably home made, was listed as a plant
> with deep
> > > roots that would reach the nutrients deep into the earth.--mike
> > >
> > > Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:
> > > > THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A
> > > > DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL.
> THESE ARE
> > > > MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA
> SALT,
> > > > CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS
> BEEN ON
> > > > MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE
> GOING TO
> > > > TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE).
> > >
> > > Yes, supplementing with mineral-rich foods/supplements certainly
> can be
> > > helpful. I find magnesium and iodine-rich items particularly
> helpful.
> > >
> > > I'm not suprised to see molasses or sea salt on your list, but
> where did
> > > you read that grape juice was rich in minerals?
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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Re: meters again!

betty A

by the way , it looks like that meter is the new electrosmog meter , but im going to get it any way, seems a good place to start.

Ada
--- On Tue, 14/10/08, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: meters again!
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 8:02 AM






Sounds like a plan... you should experiment and see how good it is at
picking up wi-fi. If it's not too good Kensington has a dedicated wi-fi
detector for around $20 I think.

Beyond that it's hard to get anything sensitive enough, although
I can't predict whether the MW-1 Electrosmog detector for about $90
will do better than the one you found. It just gives sounds, no numbers,
and would miss unmodulated signals (although that may not matter).
And doesn't measure 50 hz AC fields.

I would like to have a very compact AC/microwave meter like that to
bring with me when I go out someplace new, so if it works as advertised
and doesn't emit horrible emfs of its own, it should be a good investment.
With any electronics it's a good idea to air it out for at least a day
(maybe
a week) before bringing indoors.

Bill

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Re: meters again!

BiBrun
In reply to this post by betty A
Does that have audio output? If not it won't be sensitive enough.

Here are 2 items from less emf that can make a buzz stick. It also
has been sold under the name "telephone listener" from radio shack.

MAGNETIC PICKUP
*Build Your Own Gaussmeter*

Want parts to build your own gaussmeter? Here is an AC magnetic field probe.
It generates an AC voltage when exposed to AC magnetic fields. Although we
do not know how the output from this unit varies with frequency, we do know
that the greater the magnetic field, the higher the voltage generated (at 60
Hz, it produces about 1 mV per 20 mG). Best part: it can be connected to the
audio amplifier (see below), or sound recording device so you can get an
auditory "picture" of the electromagnetic field. Connect 3 of them in series
and create a 3-axis unit. It is quite small: only 0.7" long x 0.7" diameter,
with a removable rubber suction cup attached. Has 36" lead and 1/8" (3.5 mm)
mono plug.

*Magnetic Pickup (Cat. #P175) …........…. $4.95* [image: add to
cart]<http://www.aitsafe.com/cf/add.cfm?userid=1151290&product=P175+Magnetic+Pickup&price=4.95&units=1&return=www.lessemf.com/ghost.html#175>


------------------------------

[image: AUDIO AMPLIFIER] AUDIO AMPLIFIER *Hear the Sounds of EMF!*

Connects to Magnetic Pick-up (above) for audio translation of AC magnetic
field frequency and intensity. Makes finding sources of AC magnetic fields
very easy. Listen carefully to hear the hum of 50 or 60 Hz, plus clicks,
pops, and shrill tones of harmonics, surges, and "dirty" power. Who knows
what else you might hear? Volume is adjustable. Even has an output where you
can connect earphone or external speaker. Input: 1/8in stereo. Requires 9V
battery. A valuable but inexpensive addition to your paranormal toolbox.

*Audio Amplifier (Cat #P175-A) … $14.99* [image: add to
cart]<http://www.aitsafe.com/cf/add.cfm?userid=1151290&product=P175-A+Audio+Amplifier&price=14.99&units=1&return=www.lessemf.com/ghost.html#175>


-Bill

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM, betty_starbuckle <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> is this whatyou mean by a buzz stick ?
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electromagnetic-Field-EMF-Gauss-Detector-Meter-
> ELF-Zone_W0QQitemZ370097073720QQcmdZViewItem?
> hash=item370097073720&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%
>
> 3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
>
> ada
>
> --- In [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bill Bruno"
> <wbruno@...> wrote:
> >
> > Have never heard of it. Seems interesting for the
> > price.<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EMF-RF-Radiation-Field-Strength-Power-
> Meter-100MHz-3GHz_W0QQitemZ370097073697QQcmdZViewItem?
> hash=item370097073697&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%
> 3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14>
> > Might not be sensitive
> > enough for finding a good sanctuary, but should be able to detect
> a lot of
> > cell masts.
> > There's a lot to be said for avoiding the really strong exposures,
> and this
> > should allow that.
> > Hopefully it will pick up Wi-Fi but in standby mode wi-fi is not
> easy to
> > detect
> > because the pulses are short--but if the peak function works it
> could be
> > great.
> >
> > Also note the magnetic field sensor is also not very sensitive...
> good
> > enough to
> > protect the general public and avoid bad exposure, but again not
> enough to
> > find
> > a good sanctuary. A $20 buzz stick is definitely more sensitive
> (but
> > doesn't give a number).
> > The Tri-Field with external probe is 500 times more sensitive.
> > If you buy it please report back.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM, ada iye
> <betty_starbuckle@...>wrote:
> >
> > > thinking of buying a meter off ebay.. has anyone heard of
> this..
> > >
> > > EMF RF LF Radiation AC Magnetic Field Power Gauss Meter
> > > it says it measures from 100 hz to 3 ghz, wondering if that
> will do the
> > > job , for cell masts , wifi, hotspots in the house, and
> microwaves.. and
> > > wiring in walls etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > ada
> > >
> > >
> > > When you are down to nothing ... God is up to something!
> > >
> > > "Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect
> Light, I
> > > have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."
> > >
> > > unknown
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 14/10/08, angela england
> <mariaaengland@...<mariaaengland%40yahoo.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: angela england <mariaaengland@... <mariaaengland%
> 40yahoo.com>>
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] minerals
> > > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> <eSens%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
>
> > > Date: Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 6:32 AM
> > >
> > > Marc-
> > > Red grape juice, preferably home made, was listed as a plant
> with deep
> > > roots that would reach the nutrients deep into the earth.--mike
> > >
> > > Marc Martin <marc@ufoseries. com> wrote:
> > > > THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A
> > > > DISCUSSION OF NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL.
> THESE ARE
> > > > MINERALS THAT HAVE BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA
> SALT,
> > > > CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS
> BEEN ON
> > > > MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE
> GOING TO
> > > > TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY (BENTONITE).
> > >
> > > Yes, supplementing with mineral-rich foods/supplements certainly
> can be
> > > helpful. I find magnesium and iodine-rich items particularly
> helpful.
> > >
> > > I'm not suprised to see molasses or sea salt on your list, but
> where did
> > > you read that grape juice was rich in minerals?
> > >
> > > Marc
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>  
>


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Re: meters again!

betty A

Thats brilliant bill thanks fr the links.

"Although my Soul shall set in Darkness, I will raise in Perfect Light, I have Loved the Stars to Fondly to be Fearful of the Night."

unknown


--- On Tue, 14/10/08, Bill Bruno <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: meters again!
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, 14 October, 2008, 8:24 AM
> Does that have audio output? If not it won't be
> sensitive enough.
>
> Here are 2 items from less emf that can make a buzz stick.
> It also
> has been sold under the name "telephone listener"
> from radio shack.

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