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calmriver1@juno.com

It seemed that I was reacting to all the energy in the building, I was kind of out of it. I feel like my heart is just trying to deal with the energy, the doctor was like maybe that is the problem, your heart is creating this problem, in a sense.  They are sending me to a cardiologist.
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yes atrial fibrilation - last night was bad (the weather went from clear
skies to blizzards - is someone messing with the weather using emf ??)
mobiles especially iphones give me iregular heart beat which is bad when someone
uses them in the gym when my heart is going ten to the dozen, I almost had
a fight with a guy cos of this !!! I consider it to be a major assault !
its a no brainer mobile phone frequencies hit the heart hard perhaps a
build up of histamines is to blame

puk


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Hi,

I went to the doctor and I was having a hard time in his office, but he
checked my heart and he said it is having a weird beat, the chambers are
having 2 separate beats. Is anyone else experiencing heart issues?
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RE: Heart problems

Elizabeth thode


Years ago, the
Endocrinologist specialist I went to, said I had a heart problem.

I finally
figured out, that low thyroid played a role in this. Thyroid regulates the

heart. (It does
alot more then this) Also has an effect on blood pressure.

 

Curious, what
was your blood pressure reading?

 

When I started taking
the right kind of thyroid help (and adrenal help) this problem resolved

itself.

Over the years,
the "only" time I have any issues with my heart, is when

i have been
exposed to heavy doses of cell phone or wirelesss radiation.

 

The heart is
both electrical and magnetic, and as such, will often react to the

wireless
frequencies.

 

My daughter
couldn't even go into the Chiropractor's office, because of the emf

fields in the
building.

 

It will be
wonderful when doctors are educated and realize the true causes of so

many health
issues.

 

Lizzie

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It seemed that I was reacting to all the energy in the building, I was kind of out of it. I feel like my heart is just trying to deal with the energy, the doctor was like maybe that is the problem, your heart is creating this problem, in a sense.  They are sending me to a cardiologist.

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yes atrial fibrilation - last night was bad (the weather went from clear

skies to blizzards - is someone messing with the weather using emf ??)

mobiles especially iphones give me iregular heart beat which is bad when someone

uses them in the gym when my heart is going ten to the dozen, I almost had

a fight with a guy cos of this !!! I consider it to be a major assault !

its a no brainer mobile phone frequencies hit the heart hard perhaps a

build up of histamines is to blame



puk



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Hi,



I went to the doctor and I was having a hard time in his office, but he

checked my heart and he said it is having a weird beat, the chambers are

having 2 separate beats. Is anyone else experiencing heart issues?

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Re: Heart problems

Patricia
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they will want to drug or cut you.  
get the diagnosis and come back
to the internet and do research on
natural remedies for what ails you.
doctors have an agenda - $$$.  
and they are very convincing when
they tell you you MUST do what
they say... NOW!  remember,
they have a business and it depends
you buying their wares.  the
whole system is being discredited
big time these days.  in fact, do
your research before you go to
see the specialist... you will feel
more confident of your ability to
deal with these symptoms.  to
most MDs, energy problems are
beyond the scope of their training.  
they know little to nothing about
what we are discussing here.  
they do not allow cell phones in
heart wards for a very good
reason - they interfere with  
pacemakers.  they have not yet
realized that the heart itself runs
on electrical waves... and that
emf and emr, etc can interfere
with the healthy heart's perfect
functioning.  don't let them
pathologize you and don't let
them railroad you into extreme
solutions - drugs & surgery -
it's all they know but there are
many other ways to deal with
problems... and drugs and
surgery often make things worse.
see the article in the journal of
the AMA that talks about the
mistakes MDs and hospitals make...
ask for a printout of the side effects
of any drug the MD might prescribe...
they usually CAN exacerbate the
symptoms... make things worse.
the medical industry itself is the
third cause of death in the USA,
after heart attacks and cancer.  
buyer beware.  do not be overly
impressed by their claim to
authority.  and yet, 'forgive them,
for they know not what they do.'
:)  love, patricia


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> yes atrial fibrilation - last night was bad (the weather went from clear
> skies to blizzards - is someone messing with the weather using emf ??)
> mobiles especially iphones give me iregular heart beat which is bad when someone
> uses them in the gym when my heart is going ten to the dozen, I almost had
> a fight with a guy cos of this !!! I consider it to be a major assault !
> its a no brainer mobile phone frequencies hit the heart hard perhaps a
> build up of histamines is to blame
>
> puk
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> Hi,
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> I went to the doctor and I was having a hard time in his office, but he
> checked my heart and he said it is having a weird beat, the chambers are
> having 2 separate beats. Is anyone else experiencing heart issues?
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RE: Heart problems

Elizabeth thode
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 Read these articles on Magnesium and the heart.
By the way, this IS what I used and still use today
and my daughter has been greatly helped with this
vital mineral.  Lizzie


Magnesium – The Ultimate Heart Medicine
| Dr. Sircus

 

drsircus.com/medicine/magnesium/magnesium-the-ultimate...

drsircus.com/books/e-book/magnesium-the-ultimate-heart-medicine

How magnesium prevents heart
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www.naturalnews.com/027392_magnesium_natural_diseas...


 
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It seemed that I was reacting to all the energy in the building, I was kind of out of it. I feel like my heart is just trying to deal with the energy, the doctor was like maybe that is the problem, your heart is creating this problem, in a sense.  They are sending me to a cardiologist.

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yes atrial fibrilation - last night was bad (the weather went from clear

skies to blizzards - is someone messing with the weather using emf ??)

mobiles especially iphones give me iregular heart beat which is bad when someone

uses them in the gym when my heart is going ten to the dozen, I almost had

a fight with a guy cos of this !!! I consider it to be a major assault !

its a no brainer mobile phone frequencies hit the heart hard perhaps a

build up of histamines is to blame



puk



In a message dated 18/01/2013 05:59:44 GMT Standard Time,

[hidden email] writes:



Hi,



I went to the doctor and I was having a hard time in his office, but he

checked my heart and he said it is having a weird beat, the chambers are

having 2 separate beats. Is anyone else experiencing heart issues?

__________________________________________________________

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Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors...

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Elizabeth thode
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Read these articles on Magnesium and the heart. By the way, this IS what I used and still use todayand my daughter has been greatly helped with thisvital mineral.
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It seemed that I was reacting to all the energy in the building, I was kind of out of it. I feel like my heart is just trying to deal with the energy, the doctor was like maybe that is the problem, your heart is creating this problem, in a sense.  They are sending me to a cardiologist.

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http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">

yes atrial fibrilation - last night was bad (the weather went from clear

skies to blizzards - is someone messing with the weather using emf ??)

mobiles especially iphones give me iregular heart beat which is bad when someone

uses them in the gym when my heart is going ten to the dozen, I almost had

a fight with a guy cos of this !!! I consider it to be a major assault !

its a no brainer mobile phone frequencies hit the heart hard perhaps a

build up of histamines is to blame



puk



In a message dated 18/01/2013 05:59:44 GMT Standard Time,

[hidden email] writes:



Hi,



I went to the doctor and I was having a hard time in his office, but he

checked my heart and he said it is having a weird beat, the chambers are

having 2 separate beats. Is anyone else experiencing heart issues?

__________________________________________________________

Woman is 57 But Looks 27

Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors...

http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/50f8e4944b79e64942deast01duc



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Re: Heart problems

calmriver1@juno.com
Hi thanks for your responses. I  am going to start taking magnesium. I think the doctor thinks that it is just my heart, not my body responding to the wifi, but I have to say that he is documenting what I said, which is a good thing. I am trying different things to support myself, but it is very frustrating to really not be able to work in any building. Just having to have a lot of faith.

Blessings,

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Patricia
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lizzie, what a great statement.  
i wonder if we could draft a brochure to tell MDs
and healers about emf.  i went to an acupuncture
appointment yesterday and they are still using their
high emf equipment - 'white sound' machines and
wireless computers and heaters, etc...  even after
i took an emf meter in and they assessed the situation.  
my question is - are they REALLY interested in healing?  
:)  love, patricia


On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Elizabeth thode wrote:

> Years ago, the
> Endocrinologist specialist I went to, said I had a heart problem.
>
> I finally figured out, that low thyroid played a role in this. Thyroid
> regulates the heart. (It does alot more then this) Also has an effect
> on blood pressure.
>
> Curious, what was your blood pressure reading?
>
> When I started taking the right kind of thyroid help (and adrenal help)
> this problem resolved itself.
>
> Over the years, the "only" time I have any issues with my heart,
> is when i have been exposed to heavy doses of cell phone or wirelesss
> radiation.
>
> The heart is
> both electrical and magnetic, and as such, will often react to the
> wireless frequencies.
>
> My daughter
> couldn't even go into the Chiropractor's office, because of the emf
> fields in the building.
>
> It will be
> wonderful when doctors are educated and realize the true causes of
> so many health issues.
>
> Lizzie


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Elizabeth thode
Thanks! Love your contributions tooI'm open to this idea! Lizzie
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      lizzie, what a great statement.  

i wonder if we could draft a brochure to tell MDs

and healers about emf.  i went to an acupuncture

appointment yesterday and they are still using their

high emf equipment - 'white sound' machines and

wireless computers and heaters, etc...  even after

i took an emf meter in and they assessed the situation.  

my question is - are they REALLY interested in healing?  

:)  love, patricia



On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Elizabeth thode wrote:



> Years ago, the

> Endocrinologist specialist I went to, said I had a heart problem.

>

> I finally figured out, that low thyroid played a role in this. Thyroid

> regulates the heart. (It does alot more then this) Also has an effect

> on blood pressure.

>

> Curious, what was your blood pressure reading?

>

> When I started taking the right kind of thyroid help (and adrenal help)

> this problem resolved itself.

>

> Over the years, the "only" time I have any issues with my heart,

> is when i have been exposed to heavy doses of cell phone or wirelesss

> radiation.

>

> The heart is

> both electrical and magnetic, and as such, will often react to the

> wireless frequencies.

>

> My daughter

> couldn't even go into the Chiropractor's office, because of the emf

> fields in the building.

>

> It will be

> wonderful when doctors are educated and realize the true causes of

> so many health issues.

>

> Lizzie





   
     

   
   






       

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Re: Heart problems

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On January 19, Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]> wrote:
> i went to an acupuncture
> appointment yesterday and they are still using their
> high emf equipment - 'white sound' machines and
> wireless computers and heaters, etc...  even after
> i took an emf meter in and they assessed the situation.  
> my question is - are they REALLY interested in healing?  

I just medical practitioners (even alternative) just don't
"get it" about EMF, or if they do they don't care enough
to make the necessary changes to their office environment.
Occasionally I've run across alternative health practitioners
that were EMF sensitive themselves, and THOSE offices
were okay... :-)

Marc
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surpriseshan2
        There is an article by Prof Belpomme and he says EMS patients have a blood flow problem ................ maybe those with heart issues should take this to their doctor and get a tested?

"Prof. Belpomme's team established a diagnostic method based on blood tests and a special type of electroencephalogram (pulsed doppler echographics) which enables them to visualize blood flows in the brain. "These patients are sure to have troubles in brain vascularization", says the oncologist."  

Electrosensitivity (ES, EHS) Physiologically Explained
by Professor Dominique Belpomme
http://mieuxprevenir.blogspot.ca/2012/06/electrosensitivity-es-ehs.html

               blessings
                   Shan

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin  wrote:

>
> On January 19, Patricia Robinett  wrote:
> > i went to an acupuncture
> > appointment yesterday and they are still using their
> > high emf equipment - 'white sound' machines and
> > wireless computers and heaters, etc...  even after
> > i took an emf meter in and they assessed the situation.  
> > my question is - are they REALLY interested in healing?  
>
> I just medical practitioners (even alternative) just don't
> "get it" about EMF, or if they do they don't care enough
> to make the necessary changes to their office environment.
> Occasionally I've run across alternative health practitioners
> that were EMF sensitive themselves, and THOSE offices
> were okay... :-)
>
> Marc
>


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Tryingtoheal
Shan,

I heard Dr. Sinatra mention a " heart rate variability" testing. I'm sorry,
didn't read your article. Kathy

http://www.preventionandhealing.com/articles/Heart_Rate_Variability_New_Way_to_Evaluate_Physical_Fitness-NEW.pdf


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:34 PM, bestsurprise2 <[hidden email]>wrote:

> **
>
>
> There is an article by Prof Belpomme and he says EMS patients have a blood
> flow problem ................ maybe those with heart issues should take
> this to their doctor and get a tested?
>
> "Prof. Belpomme's team established a diagnostic method based on blood
> tests and a special type of electroencephalogram (pulsed doppler
> echographics) which enables them to visualize blood flows in the brain.
> "These patients are sure to have troubles in brain vascularization", says
> the oncologist."
>
> Electrosensitivity (ES, EHS) Physiologically Explained
> by Professor Dominique Belpomme
> http://mieuxprevenir.blogspot.ca/2012/06/electrosensitivity-es-ehs.html
>
> blessings
> Shan
>


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   Yes, my doctor gives that test in her clinic.It is very accurate for several heart and circulation issues. I had it about 5  years ago as I would often get dizzy when I would stand up from sitting and/or lying down.That test showed that when I stood up from that lying or even a sitting down position instead of my heart beat speeding up, it slowed down. This is why I would get dizzy of my balance would become poor in those situations. This test is good for those people with ME or Myalgic Encephalomylitis as this is one of their symptoms. This test is also especially good for those whom have EMS/EHS and get heart palpitations and/or speeding heart too - supposed to be much more accurate for heart usses when the person has EHS.

    The test that Prof Belpomme uses is not the same at all though that test is used for some heart issues too. This test can measure the volume of blood in the brain and other areas which also effects the blood brain barrier, among other things.

                 blessings
                     Shan

--- In [hidden email], Kathy Baumann  wrote:

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> Shan,
>
> I heard Dr. Sinatra mention a " heart rate variability" testing. I'm sorry,
> didn't read your article. Kathy
>
> http://www.preventionandhealing.com/articles/Heart_Rate_Variability_New_Way_to_Evaluate_Physical_Fitness-NEW.pdf
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:34 PM, bestsurprise2 wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> > There is an article by Prof Belpomme and he says EMS patients have a blood
> > flow problem ................ maybe those with heart issues should take
> > this to their doctor and get a tested?
> >
> > "Prof. Belpomme's team established a diagnostic method based on blood
> > tests and a special type of electroencephalogram (pulsed doppler
> > echographics) which enables them to visualize blood flows in the brain.
> > "These patients are sure to have troubles in brain vascularization", says
> > the oncologist."
> >
> > Electrosensitivity (ES, EHS) Physiologically Explained
> > by Professor Dominique Belpomme
> > http://mieuxprevenir.blogspot.ca/2012/06/electrosensitivity-es-ehs.html
> >
> > blessings
> > Shan
> >
>
>
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