Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filters

>
> I am concidering purchasing the Stetzer Filters for my Home. Can anyone
> share their experiences with this filter with me? Loni
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Loni Rosser <[hidden email] <loni326%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Loni Rosser <[hidden email] <loni326%40yahoo.com>>
> Subject: Fridges
> To: "Gary Rosser" <[hidden email]<rossercustomhomes%40yahoo.com>
> >
> Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:00 AM
>
> --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Evie <[hidden email] <evie15422%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Evie <[hidden email] <evie15422%40yahoo.com>>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 1:58 PM
>
> Hi, Mike,
>
> I do not know whether Stetzer filters will work or not. It probably
> depends on the reason your wife reacts to your fridge. Do you know or
> have you sorted out what the problem is with the refrigerator? I do not
> react to my current fridge. However, when we were house hunting the past 2
> years, I noticed I did react to most fridges in most homes. I began to try
> to sort this out and these are my best hunches, tho certainly I could be
> wrong in some of these.....
>
> Sometimes the fan on the fridge is what I felt bothered me--notice
> yesterday that Paul (PUK) sent a site which dealt with people who react to
> the frequency of fans, etc.
>
> Sometimes I suspected digitalized components. I noticed I react to digital
> components in fridges in appliance stores especially. When I look at
> fridges there, the ones I seem to not react to are the old type manual
> control fridges. All the fridges there have attrocious outgassing issues,
> but over-riding that, I get the headachy, anxious, confused feeling that I
> get from being around digital electronics.
>
> I noticed that quite a higher number of fridges in areas too close to cell
> towers bothered me and wondered if those houses might have dirty electric
> problems coming from outside (was not able to prove this). So, in this
> case, I am guessing there are filter fixes that could work.
>
> Of course, this could also be inside wiring issues leading to your fridge
> (or fridge wiring itself)--such as over loading the circuit or the wiring
> needing upgraded or an anomaly in your wiring.... I have found that to be
> the case in my current home with an a/c and a portable heater. When they
> are plugged (separately) into one offending outlet, they bother me
> greatly. They are fine plugged into another circuit.
>
> So, what I am saying is, I suspect that what leads to fridge issues results
> from more than one cause. My own fridge here doesn't have a fan that
> bothers me, isn't digital, isn't subject to dirty electricity, and doesn't
> have a wiring issue. Will that be the case in my home I am remodeling?? ??
> Only time will tell. One thing I have considered was building the fridge in
> and using Hardiebacker or an absorption material around the case. I also
> want to go with manual rather than digital controls, but these are now hard
> to find, esp if you want an updated model with a bottom freezer.
>
> Hope this helps you decide your needs,
> Diane
>
>
> --- On Thu, 10/9/08, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:59 PM
>
> WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY
> OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVEN IF
> WE FILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS SO
> WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE
> WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN
> NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT
> DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.
>
> ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I
> INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSION OF
> NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE
> BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL
> HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH
> FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY
> (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
>
> MIKE IN PHOENIX
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>

> Hi Loni,
>
> I have stetzers in my home, albeit not enough as I would like, but I had a
> noticeable difference in my well being after their installation even though
> I still have the high magnetic fields coming in. My dog also had a
> wonderful
> improvement of being able to walk again after being quite incapacitated.
>
> Regards,
> Helen (melbourne AUS)
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Loni <[hidden email]<loni326%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I am concidering purchasing the Stetzer Filters for my Home. Can anyone
> > share their experiences with this filter with me? Loni
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Loni Rosser <[hidden email]<loni326%40yahoo.com><loni326%
> 40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Loni Rosser <[hidden email] <loni326%40yahoo.com> <loni326%
> 40yahoo.com>>
> > Subject: Fridges
> > To: "Gary Rosser" <[hidden email]<rossercustomhomes%40yahoo.com>
> <rossercustomhomes%40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:00 AM
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Evie <[hidden email] <evie15422%40yahoo.com><evie15422%
> 40yahoo.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Evie <[hidden email] <evie15422%40yahoo.com> <evie15422%
> 40yahoo.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> > To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com> <eSens%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
>
> > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 1:58 PM
> >
> > Hi, Mike,
> >
> > I do not know whether Stetzer filters will work or not. It probably
> > depends on the reason your wife reacts to your fridge. Do you know or
> > have you sorted out what the problem is with the refrigerator? I do not
> > react to my current fridge. However, when we were house hunting the past
> 2
> > years, I noticed I did react to most fridges in most homes. I began to
> try
> > to sort this out and these are my best hunches, tho certainly I could be
> > wrong in some of these.....
> >
> > Sometimes the fan on the fridge is what I felt bothered me--notice
> > yesterday that Paul (PUK) sent a site which dealt with people who react
> to
> > the frequency of fans, etc.
> >
> > Sometimes I suspected digitalized components. I noticed I react to
> digital
> > components in fridges in appliance stores especially. When I look at
> > fridges there, the ones I seem to not react to are the old type manual
> > control fridges. All the fridges there have attrocious outgassing issues,
> > but over-riding that, I get the headachy, anxious, confused feeling that
> I
> > get from being around digital electronics.
> >
> > I noticed that quite a higher number of fridges in areas too close to
> cell
> > towers bothered me and wondered if those houses might have dirty electric
> > problems coming from outside (was not able to prove this). So, in this
> > case, I am guessing there are filter fixes that could work.
> >
> > Of course, this could also be inside wiring issues leading to your fridge
> > (or fridge wiring itself)--such as over loading the circuit or the wiring
> > needing upgraded or an anomaly in your wiring.... I have found that to be
> > the case in my current home with an a/c and a portable heater. When they
> > are plugged (separately) into one offending outlet, they bother me
> > greatly. They are fine plugged into another circuit.
> >
> > So, what I am saying is, I suspect that what leads to fridge issues
> results
> > from more than one cause. My own fridge here doesn't have a fan that
> > bothers me, isn't digital, isn't subject to dirty electricity, and
> doesn't
> > have a wiring issue. Will that be the case in my home I am remodeling??
> ??
> > Only time will tell. One thing I have considered was building the fridge
> in
> > and using Hardiebacker or an absorption material around the case. I also
> > want to go with manual rather than digital controls, but these are now
> hard
> > to find, esp if you want an updated model with a bottom freezer.
> >
> > Hope this helps you decide your needs,
> > Diane
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:59 PM
> >
> > WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY
> > OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVEN
> IF
> > WE FILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS
> SO
> > WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE
> > WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN
> > NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT
> > DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.
> >
> > ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I
> > INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSION
> OF
> > NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE
> > BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE
> ALL
> > HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH
> > FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY
> > (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
> >
> > MIKE IN PHOENIX
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics.com.au
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9372 3217
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

>
> I am concidering purchasing the Stetzer Filters for my Home. Can anyone
> share their experiences with this filter with me? Loni
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>>
> Subject: Fridges
> To: "Gary Rosser" <rossercustomhomes@ yahoo.com<rossercustomhomes% 40yahoo.com>
> >
> Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:00 AM
>
> --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com <evie15422%40yahoo. com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com <evie15422%40yahoo. com>>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 1:58 PM
>
> Hi, Mike,
>
> I do not know whether Stetzer filters will work or not. It probably
> depends on the reason your wife reacts to your fridge. Do you know or
> have you sorted out what the problem is with the refrigerator? I do not
> react to my current fridge. However, when we were house hunting the past 2
> years, I noticed I did react to most fridges in most homes. I began to try
> to sort this out and these are my best hunches, tho certainly I could be
> wrong in some of these.....
>
> Sometimes the fan on the fridge is what I felt bothered me--notice
> yesterday that Paul (PUK) sent a site which dealt with people who react to
> the frequency of fans, etc.
>
> Sometimes I suspected digitalized components. I noticed I react to digital
> components in fridges in appliance stores especially. When I look at
> fridges there, the ones I seem to not react to are the old type manual
> control fridges. All the fridges there have attrocious outgassing issues,
> but over-riding that, I get the headachy, anxious, confused feeling that I
> get from being around digital electronics.
>
> I noticed that quite a higher number of fridges in areas too close to cell
> towers bothered me and wondered if those houses might have dirty electric
> problems coming from outside (was not able to prove this). So, in this
> case, I am guessing there are filter fixes that could work.
>
> Of course, this could also be inside wiring issues leading to your fridge
> (or fridge wiring itself)--such as over loading the circuit or the wiring
> needing upgraded or an anomaly in your wiring.... I have found that to be
> the case in my current home with an a/c and a portable heater. When they
> are plugged (separately) into one offending outlet, they bother me
> greatly. They are fine plugged into another circuit.
>
> So, what I am saying is, I suspect that what leads to fridge issues results
> from more than one cause. My own fridge here doesn't have a fan that
> bothers me, isn't digital, isn't subject to dirty electricity, and doesn't
> have a wiring issue. Will that be the case in my home I am remodeling?? ??
> Only time will tell. One thing I have considered was building the fridge in
> and using Hardiebacker or an absorption material around the case. I also
> want to go with manual rather than digital controls, but these are now hard
> to find, esp if you want an updated model with a bottom freezer.
>
> Hope this helps you decide your needs,
> Diane
>
>
> --- On Thu, 10/9/08, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:59 PM
>
> WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY
> OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVENIF
> WE FILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS SO
> WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE
> WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN
> NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT
> DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.
>
> ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I
> INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSIONOF
> NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE
> BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE ALL
> HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH
> FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY
> (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
>
> MIKE IN PHOENIX
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail. yahoo.com
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>
>
>

> Hi Loni,
>
> I have stetzers in my home, albeit not enough as I would like, but I had a
> noticeable difference in my well being after their installation even though
> I still have the high magnetic fields coming in. My dog also had a
> wonderful
> improvement of being able to walk again after being quite incapacitated.
>
> Regards,
> Helen (melbourne AUS)
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com<loni326%40yahoo. com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I am concidering purchasing the Stetzer Filters for my Home. Can anyone
> > share their experiences with this filter with me? Loni
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com<loni326%40yahoo. com><loni326%
> 40yahoo.com> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com> <loni326%
> 40yahoo.com> >
> > Subject: Fridges
> > To: "Gary Rosser" <rossercustomhomes@ yahoo.com<rossercustomhomes% 40yahoo.com>
> <rossercustomhomes% 40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:00 AM
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com <evie15422%40yahoo. com><evie15422%
> 40yahoo.com> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com <evie15422%40yahoo. com> <evie15422%
> 40yahoo.com> >
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> <eSens%
> 40yahoogroups. com>
>
> > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 1:58 PM
> >
> > Hi, Mike,
> >
> > I do not know whether Stetzer filters will work or not. It probably
> > depends on the reason your wife reacts to your fridge. Do you know or
> > have you sorted out what the problem is with the refrigerator? I do not
> > react to my current fridge. However, when we were house hunting the past
> 2
> > years, I noticed I did react to most fridges in most homes. I began to
> try
> > to sort this out and these are my best hunches, tho certainly I could be
> > wrong in some of these.....
> >
> > Sometimes the fan on the fridge is what I felt bothered me--notice
> > yesterday that Paul (PUK) sent a site which dealt with people who react
> to
> > the frequency of fans, etc.
> >
> > Sometimes I suspected digitalized components. I noticed I react to
> digital
> > components in fridges in appliance stores especially. When I look at
> > fridges there, the ones I seem to not react to are the old type manual
> > control fridges. All the fridges there have attrocious outgassing issues,
> > but over-riding that, I get the headachy, anxious, confused feeling that
> I
> > get from being around digital electronics.
> >
> > I noticed that quite a higher number of fridges in areas too close to
> cell
> > towers bothered me and wondered if those houses might have dirty electric
> > problems coming from outside (was not able to prove this). So, in this
> > case, I am guessing there are filter fixes that could work.
> >
> > Of course, this could also be inside wiring issues leading to your fridge
> > (or fridge wiring itself)--such as over loading the circuit or the wiring
> > needing upgraded or an anomaly in your wiring.... I have found that to be
> > the case in my current home with an a/c and a portable heater. When they
> > are plugged (separately) into one offending outlet, they bother me
> > greatly. They are fine plugged into another circuit.
> >
> > So, what I am saying is, I suspect that what leads to fridge issues
> results
> > from more than one cause. My own fridge here doesn't have a fan that
> > bothers me, isn't digital, isn't subject to dirty electricity, and
> doesn't
> > have a wiring issue. Will that be the case in my home I am remodeling??
> ??
> > Only time will tell. One thing I have considered was building the fridge
> in
> > and using Hardiebacker or an absorption material around the case. I also
> > want to go with manual rather than digital controls, but these are now
> hard
> > to find, esp if you want an updated model with a bottom freezer.
> >
> > Hope this helps you decide your needs,
> > Diane
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:59 PM
> >
> > WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY
> > OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVEN
> IF
> > WE FILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS
> SO
> > WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE
> > WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN
> > NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT
> > DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.
> >
> > ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I
> > INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSION
> OF
> > NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE
> > BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE
> ALL
> > HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH
> > FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY
> > (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
> >
> > MIKE IN PHOENIX
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail. yahoo.com
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics. com.au
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9372 3217
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

> Hi Loni,
>
> I have stetzers in my home, albeit not enough as I would like, but I had a
> noticeable difference in my well being after their installation even though
> I still have the high magnetic fields coming in. My dog also had a
> wonderful
> improvement of being able to walk again after being quite incapacitated.
>
> Regards,
> Helen (melbourne AUS)
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com<loni326% 40yahoo. com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I am concidering purchasing the Stetzer Filters for my Home. Can anyone
> > share their experiences with this filter with me? Loni
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com<loni326% 40yahoo.com><loni326%
> 40yahoo.com> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com> <loni326%
> 40yahoo.com> >
> > Subject: Fridges
> > To: "Gary Rosser" <rossercustomhomes@ yahoo.com<rossercus tomhomes% 40yahoo.com>
> <rossercustomhomes% 40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:00 AM
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com <evie15422%40yahoo. com><evie15422%
> 40yahoo.com> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com <evie15422%40yahoo. com> <evie15422%
> 40yahoo.com> >
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> <eSens%
> 40yahoogroups. com>
>
> > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 1:58 PM
> >
> > Hi, Mike,
> >
> > I do not know whether Stetzer filters will work or not. It probably
> > depends on the reason your wife reacts to your fridge. Do you know or
> > have you sorted out what the problem is with the refrigerator? I do not
> > react to my current fridge. However, when we were house hunting the past
> 2
> > years, I noticed I did react to most fridges in most homes. I began to
> try
> > to sort this out and these are my best hunches, tho certainly I could be
> > wrong in some of these.....
> >
> > Sometimes the fan on the fridge is what I felt bothered me--notice
> > yesterday that Paul (PUK) sent a site which dealt with people who react
> to
> > the frequency of fans, etc.
> >
> > Sometimes I suspected digitalized components. I noticed I react to
> digital
> > components in fridges in appliance stores especially. When I look at
> > fridges there, the ones I seem to not react to are the old type manual
> > control fridges. All the fridges there have attrocious outgassing issues,
> > but over-riding that, I get the headachy, anxious, confused feeling that
> I
> > get from being around digital electronics.
> >
> > I noticed that quite a higher number of fridges in areas too close to
> cell
> > towers bothered me and wondered if those houses might have dirty electric
> > problems coming from outside (was not able to prove this). So, in this
> > case, I am guessing there are filter fixes that could work.
> >
> > Of course, this could also be inside wiring issues leading to your fridge
> > (or fridge wiring itself)--such as over loading the circuit or the wiring
> > needing upgraded or an anomaly in your wiring.... I have found that to be
> > the case in my current home with an a/c and a portable heater. When they
> > are plugged (separately) into one offending outlet, they bother me
> > greatly. They are fine plugged into another circuit.
> >
> > So, what I am saying is, I suspect that what leads to fridge issues
> results
> > from more than one cause. My own fridge here doesn't have a fan that
> > bothers me, isn't digital, isn't subject to dirty electricity, and
> doesn't
> > have a wiring issue. Will that be the case in my home I am remodeling??
> ??
> > Only time will tell. One thing I have considered was building the fridge
> in
> > and using Hardiebacker or an absorption material around the case. I also
> > want to go with manual rather than digital controls, but these are now
> hard
> > to find, esp if you want an updated model with a bottom freezer.
> >
> > Hope this helps you decide your needs,
> > Diane
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:59 PM
> >
> > WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY
> > OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVEN
> IF
> > WE FILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS
> SO
> > WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE
> > WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN
> > NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT
> > DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.
> >
> > ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I
> > INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSION
> OF
> > NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE
> > BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE
> ALL
> > HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH
> > FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY
> > (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
> >
> > MIKE IN PHOENIX
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
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>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics. com.au
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9372 3217
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

> Bill, Oh, I need some education in this electrical stuff. when you say
> put the filter near the breaker panel. You mean the one on the outside of
> the house correct? Not the fridge area.
>
> The emf Or whatever is coming from the fridget causes me pain in my jaw;
> nerve damage I guess. Loni
>
> --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Bill Bruno <[hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Bill Bruno <[hidden email] <wbruno%40gmail.com>>
>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 9:20 AM
>
> There are only 2 scenarios in which a Stetzer filter can possiblyhelp with
> a
> refrigerator:
> 1. The fridge has some electronics in it, or possibly a short circuit
> causing
> RF contamination of the house wiring. The filter will not help near the
> fridge but if you put the filter right near the fridge (on the same
> breaker)
> it might help you elsewhere in the house.
>
> 2. You have a lot of differential mode noise on your wiring from some
> other electronics or from dirty power in the neighborhood. In this case
> any electromagnet will broadcast the noise, and a fridge could affect you
> 10 to 20 feet away. In this case, put the filters as close to the breaker
> panel
> as possible, on the same phase as the fridge. (You can tell if two circuits
> are on different phases because the voltage between them with be 240,
> but remember a 240 v shock is very likely to be serious or fatal)
> Full size breakers in the panel alternate phases as you go down the panel.
>
> If a radio doesn't buzz near a light switch or conventional light bulb,
> then
> you probably don't have scenario 2. (Need to check the whole AM dial
> though).
>
> The old manual defrost fridges are a big plus. The blower fans are often
> the
> worst. You can get a new manual defrost from SunFrost or ConServ
> that are super efficient and quiet (but not cheap for the size; ConServ is
> about $1k and it's 24" wide...; SunFrost costs much more)
>
> Bill
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:18 AM, Helen Murphy <helenmurphybb@ gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Loni,
> >
> > I have stetzers in my home, albeit not enough as I would like, but I had
> a
> > noticeable difference in my well being after their installation even
> though
> > I still have the high magnetic fields coming in. My dog also had a
> > wonderful
> > improvement of being able to walk again after being quite incapacitated.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Helen (melbourne AUS)
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Loni <[hidden email]<loni326%40yahoo. com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am concidering purchasing the Stetzer Filters for my Home. Can anyone
> > > share their experiences with this filter with me? Loni
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com<loni326%40yahoo.
> com><loni326%
> > 40yahoo.com> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com> <loni326%
> > 40yahoo.com> >
> > > Subject: Fridges
> > > To: "Gary Rosser" <rossercustomhomes@ yahoo.com<rossercustomhomes%
> 40yahoo.com>
> > <rossercustomhomes% 40yahoo.com>
> > > >
> > > Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:00 AM
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com <evie15422%40yahoo.
> com><evie15422%
> > 40yahoo.com> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com <evie15422%40yahoo. com> <evie15422%
> > 40yahoo.com> >
> > > Subject: Re: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com> <eSens%
> > 40yahoogroups. com>
>
> >
> > > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 1:58 PM
> > >
> > > Hi, Mike,
> > >
> > > I do not know whether Stetzer filters will work or not. It probably
> > > depends on the reason your wife reacts to your fridge. Do you know or
> > > have you sorted out what the problem is with the refrigerator? I do not
> > > react to my current fridge. However, when we were house hunting the
> past
> > 2
> > > years, I noticed I did react to most fridges in most homes. I began to
> > try
> > > to sort this out and these are my best hunches, tho certainly I could
> be
> > > wrong in some of these.....
> > >
> > > Sometimes the fan on the fridge is what I felt bothered me--notice
> > > yesterday that Paul (PUK) sent a site which dealt with people who react
> > to
> > > the frequency of fans, etc.
> > >
> > > Sometimes I suspected digitalized components. I noticed I react to
> > digital
> > > components in fridges in appliance stores especially. When I look at
> > > fridges there, the ones I seem to not react to are the old type manual
> > > control fridges. All the fridges there have attrocious outgassing
> issues,
> > > but over-riding that, I get the headachy, anxious, confused feeling
> that
> > I
> > > get from being around digital electronics.
> > >
> > > I noticed that quite a higher number of fridges in areas too close to
> > cell
> > > towers bothered me and wondered if those houses might have dirty
> electric
> > > problems coming from outside (was not able to prove this). So, in this
> > > case, I am guessing there are filter fixes that could work.
> > >
> > > Of course, this could also be inside wiring issues leading to your
> fridge
> > > (or fridge wiring itself)--such as over loading the circuit or the
> wiring
> > > needing upgraded or an anomaly in your wiring.... I have found that to
> be
> > > the case in my current home with an a/c and a portable heater. When
> they
> > > are plugged (separately) into one offending outlet, they bother me
> > > greatly. They are fine plugged into another circuit.
> > >
> > > So, what I am saying is, I suspect that what leads to fridge issues
> > results
> > > from more than one cause. My own fridge here doesn't have a fan that
> > > bothers me, isn't digital, isn't subject to dirty electricity, and
> > doesn't
> > > have a wiring issue. Will that be the case in my home I am remodeling??
> > ??
> > > Only time will tell. One thing I have considered was building the
> fridge
> > in
> > > and using Hardiebacker or an absorption material around the case. I
> also
> > > want to go with manual rather than digital controls, but these are now
> > hard
> > > to find, esp if you want an updated model with a bottom freezer.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps you decide your needs,
> > > Diane
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> > > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:59 PM
> > >
> > > WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY
> > > OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST
> EVEN
> > IF
> > > WE FILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND
> CMS
> > SO
> > > WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON,
> WE
> > > WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL
> CAN
> > > NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE
> NOT
> > > DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.
> > >
> > > ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I
> > > INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A
> DISCUSSION
> > OF
> > > NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT
> HAVE
> > > BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE
> > ALL
> > > HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT,
> WITH
> > > FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY
> > > (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
> > >
> > > MIKE IN PHOENIX
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > > http://mail. yahoo.com
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Helen A Murphy
> >
> > Environomics. com.au
> > 0448 877 384
> > 03 9372 3217
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

> Oh that's good news Helen. The material states that you need around 20
> of them for a whole house. How many do you have? Loni in Arizona
>
> --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Helen Murphy <[hidden email]<helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Helen Murphy <[hidden email] <helenmurphybb%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [eSens] Fridges & other electrical problems/Stetzer Filter
> To: [hidden email] <eSens%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 2:18 AM
>
> Hi Loni,
>
> I have stetzers in my home, albeit not enough as I would like, but I had a
> noticeable difference in my well being after their installation even though
> I still have the high magnetic fields coming in. My dog also had a
> wonderful
> improvement of being able to walk again after being quite incapacitated.
>
> Regards,
> Helen (melbourne AUS)
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Loni <loni326@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I am concidering purchasing the Stetzer Filters for my Home. Can anyone
> > share their experiences with this filter with me? Loni
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo.
> com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Loni Rosser <loni326@yahoo. com <loni326%40yahoo. com>>
> > Subject: Fridges
> > To: "Gary Rosser" <rossercustomhomes@ yahoo.com<rossercustomhomes%
> 40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 11:00 AM
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com <evie15422%40yahoo.
> com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Evie <evie15422@yahoo. com <evie15422%40yahoo. com>>
> > Subject: Re: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com <eSens%40yahoogroup s.com>
> > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 1:58 PM
> >
> > Hi, Mike,
> >
> > I do not know whether Stetzer filters will work or not. It probably
> > depends on the reason your wife reacts to your fridge. Do you know or
> > have you sorted out what the problem is with the refrigerator? I do not
> > react to my current fridge. However, when we were house hunting the past
> 2
> > years, I noticed I did react to most fridges in most homes. I began to
> try
> > to sort this out and these are my best hunches, tho certainly I could be
> > wrong in some of these.....
> >
> > Sometimes the fan on the fridge is what I felt bothered me--notice
> > yesterday that Paul (PUK) sent a site which dealt with people who react
> to
> > the frequency of fans, etc.
> >
> > Sometimes I suspected digitalized components. I noticed I react to
> digital
> > components in fridges in appliance stores especially. When I look at
> > fridges there, the ones I seem to not react to are the old type manual
> > control fridges. All the fridges there have attrocious outgassing issues,
> > but over-riding that, I get the headachy, anxious, confused feeling that
> I
> > get from being around digital electronics.
> >
> > I noticed that quite a higher number of fridges in areas too close to
> cell
> > towers bothered me and wondered if those houses might have dirty electric
> > problems coming from outside (was not able to prove this). So, in this
> > case, I am guessing there are filter fixes that could work.
> >
> > Of course, this could also be inside wiring issues leading to your fridge
> > (or fridge wiring itself)--such as over loading the circuit or the wiring
> > needing upgraded or an anomaly in your wiring.... I have found that to be
> > the case in my current home with an a/c and a portable heater. When they
> > are plugged (separately) into one offending outlet, they bother me
> > greatly. They are fine plugged into another circuit.
> >
> > So, what I am saying is, I suspect that what leads to fridge issues
> results
> > from more than one cause. My own fridge here doesn't have a fan that
> > bothers me, isn't digital, isn't subject to dirty electricity, and
> doesn't
> > have a wiring issue. Will that be the case in my home I am remodeling??
> ??
> > Only time will tell. One thing I have considered was building the fridge
> in
> > and using Hardiebacker or an absorption material around the case. I also
> > want to go with manual rather than digital controls, but these are now
> hard
> > to find, esp if you want an updated model with a bottom freezer.
> >
> > Hope this helps you decide your needs,
> > Diane
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: angela england <mariaaengland@ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [eSens] GRAHAM STETZER FILTERS
> > To: eSens@yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 2:59 PM
> >
> > WOULD GRAHAM SETZER FILTERS WORK ON A REFRIGERATOR WHEN IT IS THE ONLY
> > OFFENSIVE APPLIANCE IN THE HOUSE. IT SEEMS ITS EMF WOULD STILL EXIST EVEN
> IF
> > WE FILTERED OUT DIRTY ELECTRICITY. MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM ES AND CMS
> SO
> > WELL THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE AIR CONDITIIONING ON, WE
> > WATCH TV, WE USE LIGHTS AND COOK WITH GAS. BUT THE REFRIGERATOR STILL CAN
> > NOT BE TOLERATED. (WE PLACED A SMALL ONE ON THE BACK PATIO). WE HAVE NOT
> > DARED TO TURN ON A COMPUTER YET.
> >
> > ON ANOTHER NOTE, ONE PERSON COMMENTED ON ROCK DUST HELPING, SO I
> > INVESTIGATED WHAT ROCK DUST IS. THE INTERNET TRAIL LED ME TO A DISCUSSION
> OF
> > NUTRIENTS COMING FROM DEEP DOWN IN THE SOIL. THESE ARE MINERALS THAT HAVE
> > BEEN LEACHED OUT OF TOPSOIL. MOLASSES, SEA SALT, CLAY, AND GRAPE JUICE
> ALL
> > HAVE THESE PROPERTIES. MY WIFE HAS BEEN ON MAPLE SYRUP AND SEA SALT, WITH
> > FANTASTIC RESULTS. NOW WE ARE GOING TO TRY THE MOLASSES AND CLAY
> > (BENTONITE). JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
> >
> > MIKE IN PHOENIX
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > http://mail. yahoo.com
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Helen A Murphy
>
> Environomics. com.au
> 0448 877 384
> 03 9372 3217
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>