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Hi Marc and All,

I received my Noise Harvester on Saturday and immediately started to
experiment with it. The results were surprising and I decided they
must be wrong, so I tried again on Sunday and had the same type of
results. Same thing again today so what I had for three times in a
row must be correct.  

This is it:
No load on outlet Stetzer meter read 105 Note there are some other
Stetzer filters in the house on other circuits and maybe even this
one.

I plug in the Noise Harvester and the readings go to 122!!

I plug in one Stetzer filter and the readings drop to 50.

I remove the "NH" and the reading drops to 45.

I remove the Stetzer and the reading jumps to 105

I use a fluorescent floor lamp in this outlet. It has three
ballasts and lamps in it. One ballast is defective and the lamp
flickers. I have tried new lamps and the problem is the ballast!.  
I turned all three lamps on and the reading was 370.

I add the NH to the outlet and the reading drops to 350.

I add one Stetzer filter and the reading drops to 175.

I add second Stetzer filter and the reading goes to 180.

I remove the NH and the reading drops to 155.  

I turn off the bad ballast in the lamp and the reading drops to 48.

I remove one Stetzer and the reading does not change.

I add in the NH and the reading does not change

I plugged the NH into another outlet where the TV was connected and
the meter reading did drop about 70 points.

I suspect there is something to do with the various wave forms that
have to be cancelled.  

Would I buy another one? No, not when I could get three Stetzer for
the price of one NH.

The other reason I would not buy one is that I have finally found a
way out of the problems the MCS and Electrical Fields were causing
me. My computer, TV, cell phone towers, cell phone, clocks, radios,
electric line noise etc. no longer bother me. If something does
bother me I can eliminate the problem using some Alternative
Medicine treatments.  

If any of you are interested I would be willing to go into it. I
will tell you up front your insurance will probably not pay for it.  
It is not an overnight cure like popping a magic pill and having
your problem go away the next day. However, it is possible for you
to learn how to do it yourself with some books that are available.  
I have my life back. I can go places, stay in hotels and so on
without any real problems. I guess I did find the light at the end
of the tunnel and I believe you most of you could do the same thing.

Bill E  

> I plug in the Noise Harvester and the readings go to 122!!

Thanks for that report, Bill!

I've found that if I have a Stetzer meter in one outlet
and then plug in the Noise Harmonizer into a different outlet,
I will see the meter drop on some outlets, and go up on
others. I can't find any specific pattern, as
I've tried plugging the meter into other outlets and
retested.

Last night I had a Noise Harmonizer plugged into a
bedroom outlet, and slept well. That doesn't really
mean much, but it's a good sign that I didn't have
to pull it out of the outlet in the middle of the
night due to a piercing headache...

But I do agree with you, that one shouldn't be too worried
about getting the lowest possible readings on their Stetzer
meters, as strengthening your body against EMF increases
your resistance to this noise, and frankly, noise is everywhere
(my office cubicle typically reads 300 on the Stetzer meter).
And I'm still not sure about what the Stetzer meter is
reading anyway: "rate of change of voltage". I doubt
that this strictly corresponds with health problems from
EMF...

> The other reason I would not buy one is that I have finally found a
> way out of the problems the MCS and Electrical Fields were causing
> me. My computer, TV, cell phone towers, cell phone, clocks, radios,
> electric line noise etc. no longer bother me.

I'd be interested in the name of the treatment/therapy, etc.
that worked for you... I can Google the rest... :-)

Thanks!

Marc

Hi All

Quantum Physics tells us that we and every thing around us is
energy. The various things that we touch, use, or ingest are energy
and since it is energy everything has a unique frequency. What is
happening to us is that our bodies are not comfortable with some of
the frequencies we are exposed to. When this happens our bodies
will have some type of a reaction until the offensive item and its
frequency is removed from our energy field.  

At this point you have a choice. You can try to isolate and shield
your self from the rest of the world or train your body to accept
the troublesome frequencies and then go on with your life. I
suspect most of the people in this group, who are having a problem
with electric fields, also have allergy problems, as I did. I went
from Hay Fever as a child, to food allergies, MCS, and then
electrical sensitivity. As I progressed along this route the
symptoms also changed.

For years the Hay Fever gave me a runny nose, sneezing, watery eyes,
etc. That was the classic response for that type of allergy. Then my
symptoms started to change. I started to get up at night to make
trips to the bath room. Like six times a night. A doctor told me I
had prostrate problems and I started some Herbs to see if it would
help. The herbs did not help. Then I realized something—when I
went away on a trip I did not get up at night!! Not once!!! I told
this to my doctor and he said I probably did not drink as much water
when I was away! Along the journey I also developed high blood
pressure when I had a reaction to something.

Fortunately, about this time in my life, I discovered NAET.  
http://www.naet.com After the second treatment I was able to mow
the lawn without a face mask for the first time in almost 50 years.  
I was also treated for a number of other things I was allergic to.  
Then I fired my Allergist as I was able to get off of the shots I
had taken for 30 some years. He said I had an instantaneous
remission and he was happy for me.  

I taught myself to do NAET because I could not afford all the
treatments that were necessary. I eventually ended up taking ten
courses in energy healing to get rid of my problems.

Along the way it became obvious that the electrical problems with
TV's, computers and computer monitors, cell phones, cell phone
towers, house wiring, the earth's magnetic field etc. could be
treated to stop my body's reaction to the fields and frequencies
that were causing my problem.

I guess many of you will think this is the wildest thing you have
ever read. That means you are attached to Western medicine and your
doctor. If your doctor has done anything to try to help you he
probably tried drugs for the problem. Or he told you it was all in
your head. None of my neighbors had my kind of problems so why
should I?  

Despite the fact that some of these things are probably bad for us
they are not going to take down the towers, dig up the power lines,
outlaw electricity, etc. tomorrow. Our option is to learn to live
with it like the majority of the people are already doing and then
work for the changes.

You have my basic story. The general idea of finding the light is
here but there are specifics as to how to get there without
following my long route that was a lot of trial and error.  

How many of you will believe all of this or even think about trying
it? I would ask how many of you can carry a cell phone that is on
or sit at a computer or in front of a TV all day and not be bothered
by it. I can and do! This worked for me. Will it work for you? I
do not know. I do know if you do not try something nothing is going
to work.

At this point I should say that I am not a DOCTOR I was an
engineer. I found myself doing this because I wanted my life back!

Bill E














--- In [hidden email], "soulpro44" <soulpro44@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Ehrhart2h" <bill10600@> wrote:
> >
> Hey Bill,
>
> I am really curious to know how you found the "light at the end of
> the tunnel", I am in need of one desperately. I have tried putting
> about 8 stetzer filters in the room I sleep in--no improvement,
> different vitamins/supplements--slight improvement. And now I
would
> give just about anything to be able to live normally without this
> wretched condition. When I lie in bed I hear a mild persistent
> hissing/buzzing sound that accompanies some form of an electric
> current or frequency that penetrates my head and body. It throws
my
> heart rate off and does anything from keep me awake, to prevent me
> from having any rest in my sleep, to just a horrible feeling of
being
> slowly electricuted.The next day I am just so out of it that I
can't
> think or do anything productive. If you or anyone out there has
> experienced anything similar to this and/or has any advice for a
> remedy it would mean the world to me, or plainly the ability to
live.
> Thanks,
> Seper
>
> > Hi Marc and All,
> >
> > I received my Noise Harvester on Saturday and immediately
started
> to
> > experiment with it. The results were surprising and I decided
they
> > must be wrong, so I tried again on Sunday and had the same type
of
> > results. Same thing again today so what I had for three times
in a
> > row must be correct.  
> >
> > This is it:
> > No load on outlet Stetzer meter read 105 Note there are some
> other
> > Stetzer filters in the house on other circuits and maybe even
this ballast!.   48.
> >
> > I remove one Stetzer and the reading does not change.
> >
> > I add in the NH and the reading does not change
> >
> > I plugged the NH into another outlet where the TV was connected
and
> > the meter reading did drop about 70 points.
> >
> > I suspect there is something to do with the various wave forms
that
> > have to be cancelled.  
> >
> > Would I buy another one? No, not when I could get three Stetzer
> for
> > the price of one NH.
> >
> > The other reason I would not buy one is that I have finally
found a
> > way out of the problems the MCS and Electrical Fields were
causing
> > me. My computer, TV, cell phone towers, cell phone, clocks,
> radios,
> > electric line noise etc. no longer bother me. If something does
> > bother me I can eliminate the problem using some Alternative
> > Medicine treatments.  
> >
> > If any of you are interested I would be willing to go into it.  
I
> > will tell you up front your insurance will probably not pay for
> it.  
> > It is not an overnight cure like popping a magic pill and having
> > your problem go away the next day. However, it is possible for
you
> > to learn how to do it yourself with some books that are
available.  
> > I have my life back. I can go places, stay in hotels and so on
> > without any real problems. I guess I did find the light at the
end
> > of the tunnel and I believe you most of you could do the same
thing.
> >
> > Bill E
> >
>

Hi,

Curious as to why (if??) you got the noise harvester (ad have stezer-something meter) if you have found it//

That said thought will do it, and colour is heaLING (AND thAT is as far as i got on the site.Do not wanna take people away from healing and the main points are there.. (honesty, ay such a lonely word) Fopr me is is blue and a blocked liver kidney meridian (all eufamism of course)

Me too am free of ES, still working though (maybe i order stuff on intuition still as well)''

Love to all,

Wonder how the tachyon cube compares to other stuff you attach to the hot wire.. (bnice experiment and not too expensive to try, huh??)


miss you

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> Fortunately, about this time in my life, I discovered NAET.
> http://www.naet.com 

Thanks Bill. I've had another report from someone who eliminated
their ES with either NAET or NMT (which is another allergy
elimination technique). This has been on my "to-do" list for
a long time, but I've never been thrilled by the numerous
sessions that might be required. I guess I should finally
get around to trying this. (I know someone who is doing
this right now -- I should check in and see if she's getting
good results from the person she's seeing)

Marc

>Curious as to why (if??) you got the noise harvester
>(ad have stezer-something meter) if you have found it//

Why? Just to see what (if anything) it does.

At home, I'm also concerned about the health of my wife
and pets, who also have to put up with the noise on
the electric lines. Frankly, I would have just filled
the house with Quantum Products and Springlife Polarizers,
but the cats don't like these items, and to make sure we
know about it, pee all over the carpet and furniture when
I use too many (I've been told that cats *like* bad energy,
but for reason I find that difficult to believe). So I was
thinking that a more conventional approach may be
acceptable to the cats.

Marc

> Wonder how the tachyon cube compares to other stuff you attach to the hot wire.

I gave up the tachyon stuff before they came out with the cube. The
tachyon silica discs never helped me though (and the cats didn't
like these on the fuse box)

Marc

That one was not to you,,

I would wanna have you try a freebie-cube if you like, say the word and refresh memory on addie (you send me that safespace 2 after all and gave this site.. ) Also for sephyr (that's not how you spell that, but sure woulld like to fly away on one.. ) And just for a serious contendor (note i have not tried that cube and do like the tranquilituy of the disk on the f\use box) Hey put that disk at the fridge maybe, marc??

Just trying to overcome the money-thing

Still ES symptom free, not fear free regrettably, ie unless fear is symptom not cause.. Oh how many days do you give the cats?? My orthopedi-matress gave me (or it coincided) a backache for 2 days, then no more). But yeah catpeople.....(kidding)

Love


Oh they told me too that cats go for more chaos and doggies are th animal to test
Marc Martin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>Curious as to why (if??) you got the noise harvester
>(ad have stezer-something meter) if you have found it//

Why? Just to see what (if anything) it does.

At home, I'm also concerned about the health of my wife
and pets, who also have to put up with the noise on
the electric lines. Frankly, I would have just filled
the house with Quantum Products and Springlife Polarizers,
but the cats don't like these items, and to make sure we
know about it, pee all over the carpet and furniture when
I use too many (I've been told that cats *like* bad energy,
but for reason I find that difficult to believe). So I was
thinking that a more conventional approach may be
acceptable to the cats.

Marc





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> Still ES symptom free, not fear free regrettably, ie unless
> fear is symptom not cause.. Oh how many days do you give the
> cats?? My orthopedi-matress gave me (or it coincided) a
> backache for 2 days, then no more)

In our last house, I gave them until I could no longer stand
cleaning up after them in the living room (and the smell!).
Of course, we had to have the carpet and pad replaced before
we sold that house, because the cats had done so much damage
as a result of my experimentation. Plus we had to replace
some of the furniture.

My tests were quite lengthy with the cats. I even went 30
days with one device, and they repeatedly soiled the furniture
daily until I removed the device. Then they stopped immediately.

But in the new house, I'm not into taking too many risks --
if I see any reaction from the cats, the item is banned
from the house!

Marc

Hi, Bill and All,
   
Sorry, I have not been able to do email here for awhile, so if you have written me, forgive me, I will sooner or later (hopefully within the next couple days), get to your mail, as I am working backwards on the email build-up. lol
   
Bill, I am very interested in anything that will help! I have found detoxing to be most beneficial for me personally [understand that I did not recognise that I even had ES till I was here at this forum for some time. I was so symptomful (is that a word??? lol) at first, that I couldn't separate what caused the symptoms, and later, felt toxins were causing them. By the time I found this forum, I was pretty much symptom-free (via heroic supplemental efforts mostly--very expensive!), but saw that there were so many similarities between my experiences and the ones here that I stayed on to find out why that was! lol My ES symptoms were not as clearly defined as most of those who come here. I reacted mainly in my car and to cell phones.The other symptoms I had were more like radiation-type reactions and I affected electrical current, rather than the other way around.]  
   
I am now trying (tho not successfully, unfortunately, so far, due to personal life complications I am presently going thru), to find out more about the rife machine for this and want to look into other less costly means to deal with detoxing and the ES and allergy problems. I do think, tho, that some things may help one and another may need various other things to help,but I, too, have many allergies. (I do know this to be due to tight junction permeability, which is a genetic problem.) I am interested to know which energy healing courses helped you most. I do not want to go thru years of various courses, as you did (smile) and appreciate the benefit of the shortened learning curve at your expense, unfortunately. lol  
   
Look forward to more input from you,
Diane aka Evie

Ehrhart2h <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi All

Quantum Physics tells us that we and every thing around us is
energy. The various things that we touch, use, or ingest are energy
and since it is energy everything has a unique frequency. What is
happening to us is that our bodies are not comfortable with some of
the frequencies we are exposed to. When this happens our bodies
will have some type of a reaction until the offensive item and its
frequency is removed from our energy field.

At this point you have a choice. You can try to isolate and shield
your self from the rest of the world or train your body to accept
the troublesome frequencies and then go on with your life. I
suspect most of the people in this group, who are having a problem
with electric fields, also have allergy problems, as I did. I went
from Hay Fever as a child, to food allergies, MCS, and then
electrical sensitivity. As I progressed along this route the
symptoms also changed.

For years the Hay Fever gave me a runny nose, sneezing, watery eyes,
etc. That was the classic response for that type of allergy. Then my
symptoms started to change. I started to get up at night to make
trips to the bath room. Like six times a night. A doctor told me I
had prostrate problems and I started some Herbs to see if it would
help. The herbs did not help. Then I realized something—when I
went away on a trip I did not get up at night!! Not once!!! I told
this to my doctor and he said I probably did not drink as much water
when I was away! Along the journey I also developed high blood
pressure when I had a reaction to something.

Fortunately, about this time in my life, I discovered NAET.
http://www.naet.com After the second treatment I was able to mow
the lawn without a face mask for the first time in almost 50 years.
I was also treated for a number of other things I was allergic to.
Then I fired my Allergist as I was able to get off of the shots I
had taken for 30 some years. He said I had an instantaneous
remission and he was happy for me.

I taught myself to do NAET because I could not afford all the
treatments that were necessary. I eventually ended up taking ten
courses in energy healing to get rid of my problems.

Along the way it became obvious that the electrical problems with
TV's, computers and computer monitors, cell phones, cell phone
towers, house wiring, the earth's magnetic field etc. could be
treated to stop my body's reaction to the fields and frequencies
that were causing my problem.

I guess many of you will think this is the wildest thing you have
ever read. That means you are attached to Western medicine and your
doctor. If your doctor has done anything to try to help you he
probably tried drugs for the problem. Or he told you it was all in
your head. None of my neighbors had my kind of problems so why
should I?

Despite the fact that some of these things are probably bad for us
they are not going to take down the towers, dig up the power lines,
outlaw electricity, etc. tomorrow. Our option is to learn to live
with it like the majority of the people are already doing and then
work for the changes.

You have my basic story. The general idea of finding the light is
here but there are specifics as to how to get there without
following my long route that was a lot of trial and error.

How many of you will believe all of this or even think about trying
it? I would ask how many of you can carry a cell phone that is on
or sit at a computer or in front of a TV all day and not be bothered
by it. I can and do! This worked for me. Will it work for you? I
do not know. I do know if you do not try something nothing is going
to work.

At this point I should say that I am not a DOCTOR I was an
engineer. I found myself doing this because I wanted my life back!

Bill E

--- In [hidden email], "soulpro44" <soulpro44@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Ehrhart2h" <bill10600@> wrote:
> >
> Hey Bill,
>
> I am really curious to know how you found the "light at the end of
> the tunnel", I am in need of one desperately. I have tried putting
> about 8 stetzer filters in the room I sleep in--no improvement,
> different vitamins/supplements--slight improvement. And now I
would
> give just about anything to be able to live normally without this
> wretched condition. When I lie in bed I hear a mild persistent
> hissing/buzzing sound that accompanies some form of an electric
> current or frequency that penetrates my head and body. It throws
my
> heart rate off and does anything from keep me awake, to prevent me
> from having any rest in my sleep, to just a horrible feeling of
being
> slowly electricuted.The next day I am just so out of it that I
can't
> think or do anything productive. If you or anyone out there has
> experienced anything similar to this and/or has any advice for a
> remedy it would mean the world to me, or plainly the ability to
live.
> Thanks,
> Seper
>
> > Hi Marc and All,
> >
> > I received my Noise Harvester on Saturday and immediately
started
> to
> > experiment with it. The results were surprising and I decided
they
> > must be wrong, so I tried again on Sunday and had the same type
of
> > results. Same thing again today so what I had for three times
in a
> > row must be correct.
> >
> > This is it:
> > No load on outlet Stetzer meter read 105 Note there are some
> other
> > Stetzer filters in the house on other circuits and maybe even
this ballast!. 48.
> >
> > I remove one Stetzer and the reading does not change.
> >
> > I add in the NH and the reading does not change
> >
> > I plugged the NH into another outlet where the TV was connected
and
> > the meter reading did drop about 70 points.
> >
> > I suspect there is something to do with the various wave forms
that
> > have to be cancelled.
> >
> > Would I buy another one? No, not when I could get three Stetzer
> for
> > the price of one NH.
> >
> > The other reason I would not buy one is that I have finally
found a
> > way out of the problems the MCS and Electrical Fields were
causing
> > me. My computer, TV, cell phone towers, cell phone, clocks,
> radios,
> > electric line noise etc. no longer bother me. If something does
> > bother me I can eliminate the problem using some Alternative
> > Medicine treatments.
> >
> > If any of you are interested I would be willing to go into it.
I
> > will tell you up front your insurance will probably not pay for
> it.
> > It is not an overnight cure like popping a magic pill and having
> > your problem go away the next day. However, it is possible for
you
> > to learn how to do it yourself with some books that are
available.
> > I have my life back. I can go places, stay in hotels and so on
> > without any real problems. I guess I did find the light at the
end
> > of the tunnel and I believe you most of you could do the same
thing.
> >
> > Bill E
> >
>



         

 
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Hi again, Bill,
   
I went to the NAET site you provided and found that I likely have stumbled upon most of the proponents of the NAET treatment myself and that has been what I have been using! (In addition to supplements, I use EFT, accupressure, a chiropractor who also uses kinesiology, alkaline water treatments, etc. All of these have been targeted toward detox, rather than specific allergens, etc.) Are there other more effective energy treatments you have used on your own which do not necessitate chiropractics and supplements (which make my treatment so expensive)?
   
Thanks so much for your information. I appreciate your help.
Diane aka Evie

Evie <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi, Bill and All,

Sorry, I have not been able to do email here for awhile, so if you have written me, forgive me, I will sooner or later (hopefully within the next couple days), get to your mail, as I am working backwards on the email build-up. lol

Bill, I am very interested in anything that will help! I have found detoxing to be most beneficial for me personally [understand that I did not recognise that I even had ES till I was here at this forum for some time. I was so symptomful (is that a word??? lol) at first, that I couldn't separate what caused the symptoms, and later, felt toxins were causing them. By the time I found this forum, I was pretty much symptom-free (via heroic supplemental efforts mostly--very expensive!), but saw that there were so many similarities between my experiences and the ones here that I stayed on to find out why that was! lol My ES symptoms were not as clearly defined as most of those who come here. I reacted mainly in my car and to cell phones. The other symptoms I had were more like radiation-type reactions and I affected electrical current, rather than the other way around.]

I am now trying (tho not successfully, unfortunately, so far, due to personal life complications I am presently going thru), to find out more about the rife machine for this and want to look into other less costly means to deal with detoxing and the ES and allergy problems. I do think, tho, that some things may help one and another may need various other things to help, but I, too, have many allergies. (I do know this to be due to tight junction permeability, which is a genetic problem.) I am interested to know which energy healing courses helped you most. I do not want to go thru years of various courses, as you did (smile) and appreciate the benefit of the shortened learning curve at your expense, unfortunately. lol

Look forward to more input from you,
Diane aka Evie

Ehrhart2h <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi All

Quantum Physics tells us that we and every thing around us is
energy. The various things that we touch, use, or ingest are energy
and since it is energy everything has a unique frequency. What is
happening to us is that our bodies are not comfortable with some of
the frequencies we are exposed to. When this happens our bodies
will have some type of a reaction until the offensive item and its
frequency is removed from our energy field.

At this point you have a choice. You can try to isolate and shield
your self from the rest of the world or train your body to accept
the troublesome frequencies and then go on with your life. I
suspect most of the people in this group, who are having a problem
with electric fields, also have allergy problems, as I did. I went
from Hay Fever as a child, to food allergies, MCS, and then
electrical sensitivity. As I progressed along this route the
symptoms also changed.

For years the Hay Fever gave me a runny nose, sneezing, watery eyes,
etc. That was the classic response for that type of allergy. Then my
symptoms started to change. I started to get up at night to make
trips to the bath room. Like six times a night. A doctor told me I
had prostrate problems and I started some Herbs to see if it would
help. The herbs did not help. Then I realized something—when I
went away on a trip I did not get up at night!! Not once!!! I told
this to my doctor and he said I probably did not drink as much water
when I was away! Along the journey I also developed high blood
pressure when I had a reaction to something.

Fortunately, about this time in my life, I discovered NAET.
http://www.naet.com After the second treatment I was able to mow
the lawn without a face mask for the first time in almost 50 years.
I was also treated for a number of other things I was allergic to.
Then I fired my Allergist as I was able to get off of the shots I
had taken for 30 some years. He said I had an instantaneous
remission and he was happy for me.

I taught myself to do NAET because I could not afford all the
treatments that were necessary. I eventually ended up taking ten
courses in energy healing to get rid of my problems.

Along the way it became obvious that the electrical problems with
TV's, computers and computer monitors, cell phones, cell phone
towers, house wiring, the earth's magnetic field etc. could be
treated to stop my body's reaction to the fields and frequencies
that were causing my problem.

I guess many of you will think this is the wildest thing you have
ever read. That means you are attached to Western medicine and your
doctor. If your doctor has done anything to try to help you he
probably tried drugs for the problem. Or he told you it was all in
your head. None of my neighbors had my kind of problems so why
should I?

Despite the fact that some of these things are probably bad for us
they are not going to take down the towers, dig up the power lines,
outlaw electricity, etc. tomorrow. Our option is to learn to live
with it like the majority of the people are already doing and then
work for the changes.

You have my basic story. The general idea of finding the light is
here but there are specifics as to how to get there without
following my long route that was a lot of trial and error.

How many of you will believe all of this or even think about trying
it? I would ask how many of you can carry a cell phone that is on
or sit at a computer or in front of a TV all day and not be bothered
by it. I can and do! This worked for me. Will it work for you? I
do not know. I do know if you do not try something nothing is going
to work.

At this point I should say that I am not a DOCTOR I was an
engineer. I found myself doing this because I wanted my life back!

Bill E

--- In [hidden email], "soulpro44" <soulpro44@...> wrote:
>
> --- In [hidden email], "Ehrhart2h" <bill10600@> wrote:
> >
> Hey Bill,
>
> I am really curious to know how you found the "light at the end of
> the tunnel", I am in need of one desperately. I have tried putting
> about 8 stetzer filters in the room I sleep in--no improvement,
> different vitamins/supplements--slight improvement. And now I
would
> give just about anything to be able to live normally without this
> wretched condition. When I lie in bed I hear a mild persistent
> hissing/buzzing sound that accompanies some form of an electric
> current or frequency that penetrates my head and body. It throws
my
> heart rate off and does anything from keep me awake, to prevent me
> from having any rest in my sleep, to just a horrible feeling of
being
> slowly electricuted.The next day I am just so out of it that I
can't
> think or do anything productive. If you or anyone out there has
> experienced anything similar to this and/or has any advice for a
> remedy it would mean the world to me, or plainly the ability to
live.
> Thanks,
> Seper
>
> > Hi Marc and All,
> >
> > I received my Noise Harvester on Saturday and immediately
started
> to
> > experiment with it. The results were surprising and I decided
they
> > must be wrong, so I tried again on Sunday and had the same type
of
> > results. Same thing again today so what I had for three times
in a
> > row must be correct.
> >
> > This is it:
> > No load on outlet Stetzer meter read 105 Note there are some
> other
> > Stetzer filters in the house on other circuits and maybe even
this ballast!. 48.
> >
> > I remove one Stetzer and the reading does not change.
> >
> > I add in the NH and the reading does not change
> >
> > I plugged the NH into another outlet where the TV was connected
and
> > the meter reading did drop about 70 points.
> >
> > I suspect there is something to do with the various wave forms
that
> > have to be cancelled.
> >
> > Would I buy another one? No, not when I could get three Stetzer
> for
> > the price of one NH.
> >
> > The other reason I would not buy one is that I have finally
found a
> > way out of the problems the MCS and Electrical Fields were
causing
> > me. My computer, TV, cell phone towers, cell phone, clocks,
> radios,
> > electric line noise etc. no longer bother me. If something does
> > bother me I can eliminate the problem using some Alternative
> > Medicine treatments.
> >
> > If any of you are interested I would be willing to go into it.
I
> > will tell you up front your insurance will probably not pay for
> it.
> > It is not an overnight cure like popping a magic pill and having
> > your problem go away the next day. However, it is possible for
you
> > to learn how to do it yourself with some books that are
available.
> > I have my life back. I can go places, stay in hotels and so on
> > without any real problems. I guess I did find the light at the
end
> > of the tunnel and I believe you most of you could do the same
thing.
> >
> > Bill E
> >
>


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Hi, Soulpro,
   
I had the very same symptoms you mention, plus very many more. I mentioned in my last post to Bill most of what I used to get thru that, tho not specifics. That particular problem did go away for me, (tho I have, off and on, other symptoms--mostly minor ones now--that return or never did totallygo away. I react to cell phones use and I suspect that has always been the case, for one, tho I never had a cell phone till 8 months ago. This would not be surprising, however, for someone with blood brain barrier tight junction damage. I was unable to function at all prior to 6 years ago--was nearly completely bedbound for over 13 years, improved function to 3 hrs/daythru diet change, then to fully able to function thru supplementation and other therapies.)  
   
If you need more specific info, please contact me, tho know in advance that my treatment, most of which I stumbled upon thru trial and error, (much like Marc, here) is very expensive and still requires quite abit of avoidance for me personally (I esp have to avoid fungi, bacteria, and environmental poisons). I have celiac disease, tho, which might make me much more succeptible to toxin and ES problems (I have tight junction damage which allowstoxins and substances direct access to my blood stream and brain thru my gut, blood-brain barrier, and lungs. So I do have ongoing problems with most toxins and have to be dealing with them on an ongoing basis. My nutritionist thinks in time I will heal this totally, but it has been 6 years and Istill have new reactions to new allergens, even tho I have, in the meantime, healed many of my food intolerances and other symptoms.)  
   
In particular, I think that adding magnesium, both to my diet and in the form of epsom salts baths, was one thing that personally helped my sleepingproblem. You might need to add only to diet or do the baths but not both.If you get short of breath and dizzy during a bath, this is a sign you are overdoing it, btw. (You have to balance the magnesium with calcium intake and other electrolytes. The short of breath problem can be cured, often in minutes, by taking calcium. But calcium excess, I think, can lead to high blood pressure so this might not apply to you if that is your problem, whereas I suffer from low bp and so calcium is very helpful to me.) Of course, know also that what helps one isn't necessarily the cure for someone else. But checking out electrolyte balance in general might instead be the key to your problem, for one thing (when you mention heart rate, that makesme think you may need electrolyte balancing). Also look into alkaline/acid balance.
Do you have other allergies/intolerances? That might lead you to look into various liver detox pathway supplementation or gut flora imbalances, etc,etc, etc.
   
Good luck; I wish you health,
Diane aka Evie

soulpro44 <[hidden email]> wrote:
--- In [hidden email], "Ehrhart2h" <bill10600@...> wrote:
>
Hey Bill,

I am really curious to know how you found the "light at the end of
the tunnel", I am in need of one desperately. I have tried putting
about 8 stetzer filters in the room I sleep in--no improvement,
different vitamins/supplements--slight improvement. And now I would
give just about anything to be able to live normally without this
wretched condition. When I lie in bed I hear a mild persistent
hissing/buzzing sound that accompanies some form of an electric
current or frequency that penetrates my head and body. It throws my
heart rate off and does anything from keep me awake, to prevent me
from having any rest in my sleep, to just a horrible feeling of being
slowly electricuted.The next day I am just so out of it that I can't
think or do anything productive. If you or anyone out there has
experienced anything similar to this and/or has any advice for a
remedy it would mean the world to me, or plainly the ability to live.
Thanks,
Seper

> Hi Marc and All,
>
> I received my Noise Harvester on Saturday and immediately started
to
> experiment with it. The results were surprising and I decided they
> must be wrong, so I tried again on Sunday and had the same type of
> results. Same thing again today so what I had for three times in a
> row must be correct.
>
> This is it:
> No load on outlet Stetzer meter read 105 Note there are some
other for
> the price of one NH.
>
> The other reason I would not buy one is that I have finally found a
> way out of the problems the MCS and Electrical Fields were causing
> me. My computer, TV, cell phone towers, cell phone, clocks,
radios,
> electric line noise etc. no longer bother me. If something does
> bother me I can eliminate the problem using some Alternative
> Medicine treatments.
>
> If any of you are interested I would be willing to go into it. I
> will tell you up front your insurance will probably not pay for
it.
> It is not an overnight cure like popping a magic pill and having
> your problem go away the next day. However, it is possible for you
> to learn how to do it yourself with some books that are available.
> I have my life back. I can go places, stay in hotels and so on
> without any real problems. I guess I did find the light at the end
> of the tunnel and I believe you most of you could do the same thing.
>
> Bill E
>



         

 
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Marc: I have found that my cats also are sensitive to this energy, and I too watch for animal interactions along with my other cautious studies with this sensitivity. All kinds of insects are attracted by this stuff and I can always tell by their activity, especially ants. peg



-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Filters


> Still ES symptom free, not fear free regrettably, ie unless
> fear is symptom not cause.. Oh how many days do you give the
> cats?? My orthopedi-matress gave me (or it coincided) a
> backache for 2 days, then no more)

In our last house, I gave them until I could no longer stand
cleaning up after them in the living room (and the smell!).
Of course, we had to have the carpet and pad replaced before
we sold that house, because the cats had done so much damage
as a result of my experimentation. Plus we had to replace
some of the furniture.

My tests were quite lengthy with the cats. I even went 30
days with one device, and they repeatedly soiled the furniture
daily until I removed the device. Then they stopped immediately.

But in the new house, I'm not into taking too many risks --
if I see any reaction from the cats, the item is banned
from the house!

Marc


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