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Faraday tractor photos are posted

Hud J O Ramelan
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
8>ppp



 

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  Hud
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)


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egg_chips_and_beans
I am really impressed with your handiwork!  It looks really good.  I hope it provides you with a lot of relief.  My canopy worked much better when I had a bed frame that kept it away from the mattress, less so now (I have memory foam mattress on the floor).  Seriously I have wondered about building something similar but I am not as good at DIY as you!

--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote:

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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
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> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.� Link should take you there.� Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
> 8>ppp
>
>
>
> �
>
> � ~=~
> � Hud
> _________________________________________________________
> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
>
>
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Patricia
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wow, hud, that's beautiful.  
how's it working out?  
love, patricia


On Jul 9, 2013, at 2:51 AM, H J R wrote:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
>
> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
> 8>ppp
>
>   ~=~
>   Hud
> _________________________________________________________
> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)


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yarnspinner30@ymail.com
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Thank you for the photos.
Though in last year , sometimes need to leave the bed VERY quickly,either to undo a cramp in leg/foot or urinate.
Maybe I could do a magnetic latch on 1 side to slip out of bed
or ...
Thanks again
Lynn D

--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote:

>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
>
> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
> 8>ppp
>
>
>
>  
>
>   ~=~
>   Hud
> _________________________________________________________
> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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Hud J O Ramelan


 Thank you for the photos.
Though in last year , sometimes need to leave the bed VERY quickly,either to undo a cramp in leg/foot or urinate.
Maybe I could do a magnetic latch on 1 side to slip out of bed
or

Good point!  Yes, I've been thinking about how to make exitting quicker and easier.  I also tend to think that a magnet approach is best for easiest access.  I haven't quite figured out how to best go about that yet.  I am leaning towards using a zipper because it is metal and can make a perfect seal that conducts electricity and doesn't interfere with continuity.  Plus, it is actually quite easy to sew into aluminium mesh using a sewing machine even or a hooked needle by hand.  Or just using fine wire.  But I am going to keep thinking about the magnet option.  It would be great to hear any ideas how to create a door with strip magnets.


  ~=~
  Hud
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




>________________________________
> From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 7:02:39 PM
>Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday tractor photos are posted
>
>
>Thank you for the photos.
>Though in last year , sometimes need to leave the bed VERY quickly,either to undo a cramp in leg/foot or urinate.
>Maybe I could do a magnetic latch on 1 side to slip out of bed
>or ...
>Thanks again
>Lynn D
>
>--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
>>
>> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
>> 8>ppp
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>   ~=~
>>   Hud
>> _________________________________________________________
>> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
>> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Hud J O Ramelan
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wow, hud, that's beautiful. 
how's it working out? 


Thanks for asking Patricia.  It is working out great for the time being.  With my Tenmars rf meter I'm measuring pretty constant 64 mv/M or 7 uW/m^2.  Outside the tractor the level shifts around from 100-200 mV/m, as my bedroom door does not provide a good seal.  Instead of trying to seal the room, I built the tractor.  But the bedroom is also essentially a faraday cage.  Prior to my shielding installation, I was measuring well over 1000 mVm constantly, from a %@#'ing wifi router right on the other side of the wall PLUS several cell antennas atop the highrise across the street beaming in through the large windows.

I am going to raise it up off the floor and get a new mattress without springs soon.


My sleep has improved immensely as has my overall degree of electrostress.

 

  ~=~
  Hud
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




>________________________________
> From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:45:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday tractor photos are posted
>
>
>wow, hud, that's beautiful. 
>how's it working out? 
>love, patricia
>
>
>On Jul 9, 2013, at 2:51 AM, H J R wrote:
>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
>>
>> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
>> 8>ppp
>>
>>   ~=~
>>   Hud
>> _________________________________________________________
>> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
>> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

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sleepbiology
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Leg cramps are classic symptoms of a WiFi router close by.


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On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 4:02 PM PDT [hidden email] wrote:

>Thank you for the photos.
>Though in last year , sometimes need to leave the bed VERY quickly,either to undo a cramp in leg/foot or urinate.
>Maybe I could do a magnetic latch on 1 side to slip out of bed
>or ...
>Thanks again
>Lynn D
>
>--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
>>
>> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
>> 8>ppp
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>   ~=~
>>   Hud
>> _________________________________________________________
>> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
>> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
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Marc Martin
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On July  9, Al Harding <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Leg cramps are classic symptoms of a WiFi router close by.

Or a lack of magnesium... :-)

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sleepbiology

Hence the cause and the cure :)

--- In [hidden email], Marc Martin <marc@...> wrote:
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> On July  9, Al Harding <iprovedit@...> wrote:
> > Leg cramps are classic symptoms of a WiFi router close by.
>
> Or a lack of magnesium... :-)
>
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yarnspinner30@ymail.com
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We are in a house that is joined to next door and suspect she has a router in the room close to my bedroom. BUt also got cramps in old bedroom where I think she has a cordless.
I take magnesium alot(Mg malate, and epsom salts in drinking water),to reduce oxalates. I just have this meter http://www.amazon.com/Electromagnetic-Radiation-Detector-Meter-Tester/dp/B007DDGYF2/ref=pd_cp_hi_2  and not sure what its measuring. WIll ask my son to try his old PSP to measure wifi in the house.
Thanks again
Lynn D


--- In [hidden email], Al Harding <iprovedit@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Leg cramps are classic symptoms of a WiFi router close by.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 4:02 PM PDT yarnspinner30@... wrote:
>
> >Thank you for the photos.
> >Though in last year , sometimes need to leave the bed VERY quickly,either to undo a cramp in leg/foot or urinate.
> >Maybe I could do a magnetic latch on 1 side to slip out of bed
> >or ...
> >Thanks again
> >Lynn D
> >
> >--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
> >>
> >> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
> >> 8>ppp
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>   ~=~
> >>   Hud
> >> _________________________________________________________
> >> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> >> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
>

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Sue
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Wonderful to hear how well the canopy is working for you!  :)  
Great job, too!    

--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote:

>
>
> wow, hud, that's beautiful. 
> how's it working out? 
>
>
> Thanks for asking Patricia.  It is working out great for the time being.  With my Tenmars rf meter I'm measuring pretty constant 64 mv/M or 7 uW/m^2.  Outside the tractor the level shifts around from 100-200 mV/m, as my bedroom door does not provide a good seal.  Instead of trying to seal the room, I built the tractor.  But the bedroom is also essentially a faraday cage.  Prior to my shielding installation, I was measuring well over 1000 mVm constantly, from a %@#'ing wifi router right on the other side of the wall PLUS several cell antennas atop the highrise across the street beaming in through the large windows.
>
> I am going to raise it up off the floor and get a new mattress without springs soon.
>
>
> My sleep has improved immensely as has my overall degree of electrostress.
>
>  
>
>   ~=~
>   Hud
> _________________________________________________________
> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Patricia Robinett <patricia@...>
> >To: [hidden email]
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:45:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday tractor photos are posted
> >
> >
> >wow, hud, that's beautiful. 
> >how's it working out? 
> >love, patricia
> >
> >
> >On Jul 9, 2013, at 2:51 AM, H J R wrote:
> >
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
> >>
> >> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
> >> 8>ppp
> >>
> >>   ~=~
> >>   Hud
> >> _________________________________________________________
> >> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> >> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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Sue
I mean faraday tractor! lol

--- In [hidden email], "ob4567" <sueandgerry@...> wrote:

>
>
> Wonderful to hear how well the canopy is working for you!  :)  
> Great job, too!    
>
> --- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > wow, hud, that's beautiful. 
> > how's it working out? 
> >
> >
> > Thanks for asking Patricia.  It is working out great for the time being.  With my Tenmars rf meter I'm measuring pretty constant 64 mv/M or 7 uW/m^2.  Outside the tractor the level shifts around from 100-200 mV/m, as my bedroom door does not provide a good seal.  Instead of trying to seal the room, I built the tractor.  But the bedroom is also essentially a faraday cage.  Prior to my shielding installation, I was measuring well over 1000 mVm constantly, from a %@#'ing wifi router right on the other side of the wall PLUS several cell antennas atop the highrise across the street beaming in through the large windows.
> >
> > I am going to raise it up off the floor and get a new mattress without springs soon.
> >
> >
> > My sleep has improved immensely as has my overall degree of electrostress.
> >
> >  
> >
> >   ~=~
> >   Hud
> > _________________________________________________________
> > nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> > You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Patricia Robinett <patricia@>
> > >To: [hidden email]
> > >Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:45:04 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday tractor photos are posted
> > >
> > >
> > >wow, hud, that's beautiful. 
> > >how's it working out? 
> > >love, patricia
> > >
> > >
> > >On Jul 9, 2013, at 2:51 AM, H J R wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
> > >>
> > >> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
> > >> 8>ppp
> > >>
> > >>   ~=~
> > >>   Hud
> > >> _________________________________________________________
> > >> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> > >> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------------
> > >
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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yarnspinner30@ymail.com
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We are in a house that is joined to next door and suspect she has a router in the room close to my bedroom. BUt also got cramps in old bedroom where I think she has a cordless.
I take magnesium alot(Mg malate, and epsom salts in drinking water),to reduce oxalates. I just have this meter http://www.amazon.com/Electromagnetic-Radiation-Detector-Meter-Tester/dp/B007DDGYF2/ref=pd_cp_hi_2  and not sure what its measuring. WIll ask my son to try his old PSP to measure wifi in the house.
Thanks again
Lynn D


--- In [hidden email], Al Harding <iprovedit@...> wrote:

>
>
>
> Leg cramps are classic symptoms of a WiFi router close by.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 4:02 PM PDT yarnspinner30@... wrote:
>
> >Thank you for the photos.
> >Though in last year , sometimes need to leave the bed VERY quickly,either to undo a cramp in leg/foot or urinate.
> >Maybe I could do a magnetic latch on 1 side to slip out of bed
> >or ...
> >Thanks again
> >Lynn D
> >
> >--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
> >>
> >> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
> >> 8>ppp
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>   ~=~
> >>   Hud
> >> _________________________________________________________
> >> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> >> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
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Patricia
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could leg cramps also indicate cell phones ON?  
that's when i seem to get leg cramps.  
iphones and other such 'modern' phones.  
love, patricia


On Jul 9, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Al Harding wrote:

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> Leg cramps are classic symptoms of a WiFi router close by.
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Patricia
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i was getting cramps from my roommate's alarm clock.
he only has to use an alarm when he goes into work early -
only about every ten days.  but it happens those days, so i
was pretty sure the two were connected.  he took his
trifield meter and measured his side of the wall and mine -
so i didn't have to convince him that it was bad - he
saw the readings himself.  he turned off the alarm clock
and now will use a battery-operated alarm - his own
decision... i didn't have to break his arm or leg.  
:)  
so yes, there are several 'common' appliances that will
trigger ems and cramps.  it's just a matter of detective
work.  i wonder if a sheet of metallic paper would bounce
the EMR back to the place of its origin?  
love, patricia


On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:17 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> We are in a house that is joined to next door and suspect she has a router in the room close to my bedroom. BUt also got cramps in old bedroom where I think she has a cordless.
> I take magnesium alot(Mg malate, and epsom salts in drinking water),to reduce oxalates. I just have this meter http://www.amazon.com/Electromagnetic-Radiation-Detector-Meter-Tester/dp/B007DDGYF2/ref=pd_cp_hi_2  and not sure what its measuring. WIll ask my son to try his old PSP to measure wifi in the house.
> Thanks again
> Lynn D
>
>
> --- In [hidden email], Al Harding <iprovedit@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Leg cramps are classic symptoms of a WiFi router close by.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 4:02 PM PDT yarnspinner30@... wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the photos.
>>> Though in last year , sometimes need to leave the bed VERY quickly,either to undo a cramp in leg/foot or urinate.
>>> Maybe I could do a magnetic latch on 1 side to slip out of bed
>>> or ...
>>> Thanks again
>>> Lynn D
>>>
>>> --- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
>>>>
>>>> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
>>>> 8>ppp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>   ~=~
>>>>   Hud
>>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
>>>> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Hud J O Ramelan
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Wonderful to hear how well the canopy is working for you!  :) 
Great job, too!   

 
Thanks for the kind words.  I forgot to mention that when I made my first unit, which was an a-frame tent style unit, I had plenty of unusual symptoms, particularly if I just touched the aluminium mesh.  Even briefly.  I would get the metallic taste/feeling in the mouth, head pressure, and sometimes hypersensitivity to sound and rapid heartbeat.  I think a lot of metal particles become airborne, some of which are likely inhaled or ingested.  After I made a point of not touching the mesh without gloves and doing my best to vaccuum and wipe down the mesh, I no longer had those problems.

It is also very easy to get pricked by aluminium mesh.  sometimes it would ride around on a sock and then prick my toe unexpectedly!  Yowch!

  ~=~
  Hud
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




>________________________________
> From: ob4567 <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:43:08 AM
>Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday tractor photos are posted
>
>
>
>Wonderful to hear how well the canopy is working for you!  :) 
>Great job, too!   
>
>--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> wow, hud, that's beautiful. 
>> how's it working out? 
>>
>>
>> Thanks for asking Patricia.  It is working out great for the time being.  With my Tenmars rf meter I'm measuring pretty constant 64 mv/M or 7 uW/m^2.  Outside the tractor the level shifts around from 100-200 mV/m, as my bedroom door does not provide a good seal.  Instead of trying to seal the room, I built the tractor.  But the bedroom is also essentially a faraday cage.  Prior to my shielding installation, I was measuring well over 1000 mVm constantly, from a %@#'ing wifi router right on the other side of the wall PLUS several cell antennas atop the highrise across the street beaming in through the large windows.
>>
>> I am going to raise it up off the floor and get a new mattress without springs soon.
>>
>>
>> My sleep has improved immensely as has my overall degree of electrostress.
>>
>>  
>>
>>   ~=~
>>   Hud
>> _________________________________________________________
>> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
>> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Patricia Robinett <patricia@...>
>> >To: [hidden email]
>> >Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:45:04 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday tractor photos are posted
>> >
>> >
>> >wow, hud, that's beautiful. 
>> >how's it working out? 
>> >love, patricia
>> >
>> >
>> >On Jul 9, 2013, at 2:51 AM, H J R wrote:
>> >
>> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
>> >>
>> >> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
>> >> 8>ppp
>> >>
>> >>   ~=~
>> >>   Hud
>> >> _________________________________________________________
>> >> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
>> >> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------------
>> >
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Faraday tractor photos are posted

Sue
> I forgot to mention that when I made my first unit, which was an a-frame tent style unit, I had plenty of unusual symptoms, particularly if I just touched the aluminium mesh.  Even briefly.
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Thanks for mentioning that.   I'm the same way.

>I would get the metallic taste/feeling in the mouth, head pressure, and sometimes hypersensitivity to sound and rapid heartbeat.  I think a lot of metal particles become airborne, some of which are likely inhaled or ingested.  After I made a point of not touching the mesh without gloves and doing my best to vaccuum and wipe down the mesh, I no longer had those problems.
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Interesting!   I'm doing experiments with a commercial fabric canopy.  Just went inside of it after letting it sit unused for about 10 days while getting my courage back up from the previous experiement lol.  And noticed a taste too.

Just curious - what do you think?... If metal particles are becoming airbone, is it the large amount of metal that is oxidizing inside the enclosed faraday tractor that creates the taste?  Do the RF fields that are bouncing off of it also increase the molecules being released into the air?

Sue


--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote:

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> Wonderful to hear how well the canopy is working for you!  :) 
> Great job, too!   
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> Thanks for the kind words.  I forgot to mention that when I made my first unit, which was an a-frame tent style unit, I had plenty of unusual symptoms, particularly if I just touched the aluminium mesh.  Even briefly.  I would get the metallic taste/feeling in the mouth, head pressure, and sometimes hypersensitivity to sound and rapid heartbeat.  I think a lot of metal particles become airborne, some of which are likely inhaled or ingested.  After I made a point of not touching the mesh without gloves and doing my best to vaccuum and wipe down the mesh, I no longer had those problems.
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> It is also very easy to get pricked by aluminium mesh.  sometimes it would ride around on a sock and then prick my toe unexpectedly!  Yowch!
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>   ~=~
>   Hud
> _________________________________________________________
> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
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> > From: ob4567 <sueandgerry@...>
> >To: [hidden email]
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:43:08 AM
> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday tractor photos are posted
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> >Wonderful to hear how well the canopy is working for you!  :) 
> >Great job, too!   
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> >--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@> wrote:
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> >> wow, hud, that's beautiful. 
> >> how's it working out? 
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> >> Thanks for asking Patricia.  It is working out great for the time being.  With my Tenmars rf meter I'm measuring pretty constant 64 mv/M or 7 uW/m^2.  Outside the tractor the level shifts around from 100-200 mV/m, as my bedroom door does not provide a good seal.  Instead of trying to seal the room, I built the tractor.  But the bedroom is also essentially a faraday cage.  Prior to my shielding installation, I was measuring well over 1000 mVm constantly, from a %@#'ing wifi router right on the other side of the wall PLUS several cell antennas atop the highrise across the street beaming in through the large windows.
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> >> I am going to raise it up off the floor and get a new mattress without springs soon.
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> >> My sleep has improved immensely as has my overall degree of electrostress.
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> >> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
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> >> > From: Patricia Robinett <patricia@>
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> >> >Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:45:04 PM
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> >> >wow, hud, that's beautiful. 
> >> >how's it working out? 
> >> >love, patricia
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> >> >On Jul 9, 2013, at 2:51 AM, H J R wrote:
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> >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eSens/photos/album/1020188623/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
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> >> >> I uploaded a few photos of my Faraday tractor.  Link should take you there.  Sorry, they're not very clear--it's the cheap digital camera's fault.
> >> >> 8>ppp
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Re: Reactions to canopies, cages (tractors!)

Hud J O Ramelan

Just curious - what do you think?... If metal particles are becoming
airbone, is it the large amount of metal that is oxidizing inside the
enclosed faraday tractor that creates the taste?  Do the RF fields that
are bouncing off of it also increase the molecules being released into
the air?

 
I've been thinking something along these lines.  I know that aluminium oxidizes quite readily with exposure to air but then that layer of aluminium oxide will coat the metal and have the effect of creating an insulating barrier.  I think the layer of aluminium oxide acting as an insulator attributes for why over time a given piece of aluminium mesh ceases to cause me to react.  It could be that it is simply not conducting electricity on the outside and that makes a difference.  It seems more likely that it is just no longer creating alum oxide dust / exposing me to aluminium.

Something I discovered recently about aluminium is that, for decades, it has been added to vaccines and allergy [desensitization] inoculation formulas as a component which gets the immune system more readily producing antibodies to the antigens which are present in the solutions.  There is increasing evidence that this leads to the development of sensitization to aluminium and anaphylaxis (extreme immediate allergic reaction)

It is a difficult nut to crack!  Leaves me feeling like there must be more answers...

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  Hud
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nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




>________________________________
> From: ob4567 <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:19:10 PM
>Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday tractor photos are posted
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>> I forgot to mention that when I made my first unit, which was an a-frame tent style unit, I had plenty of unusual symptoms, particularly if I just touched the aluminium mesh.  Even briefly.
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>Thanks for mentioning that.   I'm the same way.
>
>>I would get the metallic taste/feeling in the mouth, head pressure, and sometimes hypersensitivity to sound and rapid heartbeat.  I think a lot of metal particles become airborne, some of which are likely inhaled or ingested.  After I made a point of not touching the mesh without gloves and doing my best to vaccuum and wipe down the mesh, I no longer had those problems.
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>Interesting!   I'm doing experiments with a commercial fabric canopy.  Just went inside of it after letting it sit unused for about 10 days while getting my courage back up from the previous experiement lol.  And noticed a taste too.
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>Just curious - what do you think?... If metal particles are becoming airbone, is it the large amount of metal that is oxidizing inside the enclosed faraday tractor that creates the taste?  Do the RF fields that are bouncing off of it also increase the molecules being released into the air?
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>Sue
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Re: Reactions to canopies, cages (tractors!)

Patricia
hud,
there is also aluminum in chemtrails.  
see "What in the world are they spraying?"
http://youtu.be/jf0khstYDLA
it's a mess, darlin.  
it's being sprayed all over the world.
we're living in a chemical, electrical soup.  
we are human guinea pigs and we, the ES
specifically, are canaries in the coal mine.
patricia



On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:26 PM, H J R wrote:

> Just curious - what do you think?... If metal particles are becoming
> airbone, is it the large amount of metal that is oxidizing inside the
> enclosed faraday tractor that creates the taste?  Do the RF fields that
> are bouncing off of it also increase the molecules being released into
> the air?
>
>  
> I've been thinking something along these lines.  I know that aluminium oxidizes quite readily with exposure to air but then that layer of aluminium oxide will coat the metal and have the effect of creating an insulating barrier.  I think the layer of aluminium oxide acting as an insulator attributes for why over time a given piece of aluminium mesh ceases to cause me to react.  It could be that it is simply not conducting electricity on the outside and that makes a difference.  It seems more likely that it is just no longer creating alum oxide dust / exposing me to aluminium.
>
> Something I discovered recently about aluminium is that, for decades, it has been added to vaccines and allergy [desensitization] inoculation formulas as a component which gets the immune system more readily producing antibodies to the antigens which are present in the solutions.  There is increasing evidence that this leads to the development of sensitization to aluminium and anaphylaxis (extreme immediate allergic reaction)
>
> It is a difficult nut to crack!  Leaves me feeling like there must be more answers...
>
>   ~=~
>   Hud
> _________________________________________________________
> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)


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Re: aluminium (&barium, strontium) from the sky!

Hud J O Ramelan
Thanks for the heads up on 'What are they spraying..." documentary.  I watched it and I can see how the plot thickens (or perhaps, the haze thickens).  Yikes.  Now I will devote some time to watching the sky to see what's up here in the Greater Toronto Area regarding stratospheric aerosol geoengineering.


 

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  Hud
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nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




>________________________________
> From: Patricia Robinett <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:17:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [eSens]Reactions to canopies, cages (tractors!)
>
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>hud,
>there is also aluminum in chemtrails. 
>see "What in the world are they spraying?"
>http://youtu.be/jf0khstYDLA
>it's a mess, darlin. 
>it's being sprayed all over the world.
>we're living in a chemical, electrical soup. 
>we are human guinea pigs and we, the ES
>specifically, are canaries in the coal mine.
>patricia
>
>
>
>On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:26 PM, H J R wrote:
>
>> Just curious - what do you think?... If metal particles are becoming
>> airbone, is it the large amount of metal that is oxidizing inside the
>> enclosed faraday tractor that creates the taste?  Do the RF fields that
>> are bouncing off of it also increase the molecules being released into
>> the air?
>>
>> 
>> I've been thinking something along these lines.  I know that aluminium oxidizes quite readily with exposure to air but then that layer of aluminium oxide will coat the metal and have the effect of creating an insulating barrier.  I think the layer of aluminium oxide acting as an insulator attributes for why over time a given piece of aluminium mesh ceases to cause me to react.  It could be that it is simply not conducting electricity on the outside and that makes a difference.  It seems more likely that it is just no longer creating alum oxide dust / exposing me to aluminium.
>>
>> Something I discovered recently about aluminium is that, for decades, it has been added to vaccines and allergy [desensitization] inoculation formulas as a component which gets the immune system more readily producing antibodies to the antigens which are present in the solutions.  There is increasing evidence that this leads to the development of sensitization to aluminium and anaphylaxis (extreme immediate allergic reaction)
>>
>> It is a difficult nut to crack!  Leaves me feeling like there must be more answers...
>>
>>   ~=~
>>   Hud
>> _________________________________________________________
>> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
>> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)
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