Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Hey folks,

I was just reading through some of the vimeo commentaries from the documentary Resonance: Beings of Frequency, and came across this post.

 
I have been treating electro sensitive
clients with Schumann frequencies for over 10 years now so a word of
caution for those who are totally blocking out EMFs ....When making a
Faradays cage for sleeping in  or trying to shield  your home
environment from effects of EMFs....  You are also simultaneously
blocking out the Schumann frequencies and for many people with Electro
sensitivity such shielding may initially appear to help the sufferers in respect of protecting them from the EMFs but ultimately the symptoms
experienced may change to mimic those experienced by the students in the film when kept  underground also as evidenced by the early astronauts
and cosmonauts who were returning to earth sick, such symptoms were only remedied once Schumann frequency generators were installed.

I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone tried shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent posts and saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

Marc, do you also shield your interior? 


If you still haven't watched this outstanding documentary, you can see a free stream online here:

http://vimeo.com/54189727

Oh, the irony of us watching documentaries on the dangers of EMR, watching them on our computers! :-)


Tim


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Tim wrote:

 I have been treating electro sensitive clients with Schumann frequencies for over 10 years now so a word of
caution for those who are totally blocking out EMFs ....When making a Faradays cage for sleeping in  or trying to shield  your home
environment from effects of EMFs....  You are also simultaneously blocking out the Schumann frequencies and for many people with Electro
sensitivity
 such shielding may initially appear to help the sufferers in respect of
 protecting them from the EMFs but ultimately the symptoms
experienced
 may change to mimic those experienced by the students in the film when
kept  underground also as evidenced by the early astronauts
and
cosmonauts who were returning to earth sick, such symptoms were only
remedied once Schumann frequency generators were installed.


I
wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone tried
shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent posts and saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.


Hud comments:

I think it is a false assertion that a Faraday cage created for shielding against EMFs would have the effect of also blocking the earth's +/- 7 Hz (Shumann frequency) 'micropulsations'.  The lower you go in terms of frequency (i.e., the larger the wavelength), the harder it is to block EMFs--as a rule.  It is relatively easy to block microwaves (~ centimeters wavelength) because at such high frequencies (Megahertz to Gigahertz) the EM waves are unable to penetrate very far into a conductor.  This is not true of lower frequencies (e.g. Kilohertz) like AM radio, where the wavelengths are hundreds of meters long.  Especially for mains frequency (50/60 Hz) fields that have ~5 Km long wavelength.  As far as I know, to block 60 Hz fields, you need to use specific high conductivity metals (copper, silver, mu metal) and it has to be quite thick because of the high surface area required for 5 Km waves to conduct.

A Faraday cage made out of thin aluminium mesh (insect screen) can effectively block radio frequency waves because with short wavelengths, there is a corresponding reduction in the surface area required for conduction and hence, penetration is low.  This low surface area requirement for radio frequency waves to conduct also allows the use of mesh, as opposed to a solid material (which provides a higher surface area for conduction).

I've been studying this stuff recently.  I found this helpful 'primer' online, which was created to teach students about electromagnetism--by exploring the concepts involved with a Faraday Cageand by building one too.
http://wiki.laptop.org/images/3/3f/Faraday_Cage_Activity.pdf

More comment about shumann resonance, sick astronauts & ill effects of Faraday cages in a bit...  I'm too irradiated right now!

Here's my 'ELECTROSTRESSED' symbol/emoticon [!]:    ⚡$>( 

  This is the End...      
 

  ~=~
  HJR
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)




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Thanks for your feedback HJR...


I wish we had the practitioner who made this comment here in the group, so she could give us more details. I wondered about this... Thanks for the info and primer link. It makes sense... 

Love your emoticon, LOL!  Look forward to hearing your further thoughts and others as well... 

Happy grounding,

Tim



________________________________
 From: H J R <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
 


 
Tim wrote:

 I have been treating electro sensitive clients with Schumann frequencies for over 10 years now so a word of
caution for those who are totally blocking out EMFs ....When making a Faradays cage for sleeping in  or trying to shield  your home
environment from effects of EMFs....  You are also simultaneously blocking out the Schumann frequencies and for many people with Electro
sensitivity
such shielding may initially appear to help the sufferers in respect of
protecting them from the EMFs but ultimately the symptoms
experienced
may change to mimic those experienced by the students in the film when
kept  underground also as evidenced by the early astronauts
and
cosmonauts who were returning to earth sick, such symptoms were only
remedied once Schumann frequency generators were installed.

I
wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone tried
shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent posts and saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

Hud comments:

I think it is a false assertion that a Faraday cage created for shielding against EMFs would have the effect of also blocking the earth's +/- 7 Hz (Shumann frequency) 'micropulsations'.  The lower you go in terms of frequency (i.e., the larger the wavelength), the harder it is to block EMFs--as a rule.  It is relatively easy to block microwaves (~ centimeters wavelength) because at such high frequencies (Megahertz to Gigahertz) the EM waves are unable to penetrate very far into a conductor.  This is not true of lower frequencies (e.g. Kilohertz) like AM radio, where the wavelengths are hundreds of meters long.  Especially for mains frequency (50/60 Hz) fields that have ~5 Km long wavelength.  As far as I know, to block 60 Hz fields, you need to use specific high conductivity metals (copper, silver, mu metal) and it has to be quite thick because of the high surface area required for 5 Km waves to conduct.

A Faraday cage made out of thin aluminium mesh (insect screen) can effectively block radio frequency waves because with short wavelengths, there is a corresponding reduction in the surface area required for conduction and hence, penetration is low.  This low surface area requirement for radio frequency waves to conduct also allows the use of mesh, as opposed to a solid material (which provides a higher surface area for conduction).

I've been studying this stuff recently.  I found this helpful 'primer' online, which was created to teach students about electromagnetism--by exploring the concepts involved with a Faraday Cageand by building one too.
http://wiki.laptop.org/images/3/3f/Faraday_Cage_Activity.pdf

More comment about shumann resonance, sick astronauts & ill effects of Faraday cages in a bit...  I'm too irradiated right now!

Here's my 'ELECTROSTRESSED' symbol/emoticon [!]:    ⚡$>( 

  This is the End...      
 

  ~=~
  HJR
_________________________________________________________
nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet
You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace)

>________________________________
>
>

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My understanding is that a faraday cage only has to be 5 sides of a cube... so assuming you slept on the floor (earthed) you would get the Schumann resonance anyway?

e.g. much like a microwave oven has a window you get a side of the cage which could be used as the floor.

--- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@...> wrote:

> I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone tried
> shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent posts and
> saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

> Marc, do you also shield your interior? 

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no
control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a
practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since
I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding
materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...


It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help. 

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim



________________________________
 From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
 


 
> I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone tried
> shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent posts and
> saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

> Marc, do you also shield your interior? 

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no
control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a
practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since
I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding
materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

 

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Hmmm, not sure...  I thought to create an effective faraday cage for RF, it needs to be shielded on all sides and grounded, but I have no experience with this. The link that HJR provided below may help answer... 

I don't know if the Schumann frequency passes below the ground surface. The results of testing people living below ground indicated the Schumann resonance is found only above ground... 

Interesting thought! 


I suppose you could test your design with an RF meter and a meter that could measure the Schumann frequency. I wonder if a Spectran Spectrum Analyzer might pick it up... I would love one of those puppies! 


Tim



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 From: egg_chips_and_beans <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:32 AM
Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
 


 

My understanding is that a faraday cage only has to be 5 sides of a cube... so assuming you slept on the floor (earthed) you would get the Schumann resonance anyway?

e.g. much like a microwave oven has a window you get a side of the cage which could be used as the floor.

--- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@...> wrote:

 

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Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something
I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours
a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have
helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much
anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've
had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden
recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which
hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out
lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was
shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3
weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put
out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed
to let me body rest and go limp at first!

But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might
need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients
who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the
circuit....

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim <[hidden email]>
To: eSens <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding
yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF
shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's
been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly
grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...

It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator
improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the
RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help. 

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps
it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim

________________________________
 From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance


 
&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone
tried
&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent
posts and
&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior? 

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no
control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a
practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since
I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding
materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

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Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward, but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your body. It will tell you what's working and not.


From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies. Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help explain her findings...


Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take over when our natural defenses get low...


Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)  

Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine for the Lyme? 

http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html


Tim



________________________________
 From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
 


 
Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something
I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours
a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have
helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much
anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've
had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden
recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which
hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out
lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was
shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3
weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put
out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed
to let me body rest and go limp at first!

But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might
need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients
who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the
circuit....

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim <[hidden email]>
To: eSens <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding
yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF
shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's
been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly
grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...

It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator
improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the
RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help. 

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps
it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim

________________________________
From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone
tried
&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent
posts and
&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior? 

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no
control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a
practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since
I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding
materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

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That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim.   Iodine is: Anti fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also a vital mineral needed by the body.  I would add here, that this article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent.  Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7 people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using any Iodine supplement.   Of interest here, is that NO one is this group of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted 24 hrs.  My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was also ill with multiple health conditions.   Another's skin patch was gone in less then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative test.
 Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
















 



 


   
     
     
      Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward, but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your body. It will tell you what's working and not.



From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies. Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help explain her findings...



Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take over when our natural defenses get low...



Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)  



Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine for the Lyme?  



http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html



Tim



________________________________

 From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 



 

Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something

I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours

a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have

helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much

anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've

had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden

recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which

hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out

lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was

shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3

weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put

out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed

to let me body rest and go limp at first!



But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might

need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients

who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the

circuit....



Thanks!



-----Original Message-----

From: Tim <[hidden email]>

To: eSens <[hidden email]>

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



 

Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding

yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF

shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's

been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly

grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...



It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator

improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the

RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help.



If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps

it's something we'll hear more about at some point...



Tim



________________________________

From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



 

&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone

tried

&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent

posts and

&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.



i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)



&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior?



I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no

control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a

practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since

I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding

materials sounds like a bad idea to me...



Marc



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Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants
me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most
important minerals for lyme!  but I don't think I mentioned iodine in
my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years,
a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than
most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've
had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections...

-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim.   Iodine is: Anti
fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also
a vital mineral needed by the body.  I would add here, that this
article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this
using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be
found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent.  
Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to
use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7
people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using
any Iodine supplement.   Of interest here, is that NO one is this group
of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted
24 hrs.  My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch
lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's
skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was  also ill with
multiple health conditions.   Another's skin patch was gone in less
then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative
test.
 Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward,
but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your
body. It will tell you what's working and not.

 From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block
the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies.
Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also
filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help
explain her findings...

Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when
I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take
over when our natural defenses get low...

Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping
people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)

Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine
for the Lyme?

http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html

Tim

________________________________

From: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something

I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours

a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have

helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much

anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've

had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden

recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which

hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out

lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was

shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3

weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put

out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed

to let me body rest and go limp at first!

But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might

need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients

who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the

circuit....

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----

From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding

yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF

shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's

been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly

grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...

It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator

improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the

RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help.

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps

it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim

________________________________

From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone

tried

&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent

posts and

&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior?

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no

control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a

practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since

I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding

materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

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Thanks for the info Lizzie!  I had the same result with painting nascent on the skin. It absorbed within a couple of hours, super fast... I'd like to try the Lugol's to test my status.


What percentage strength of Lugol's did you use?  I'm seeing 2, 5, and a whopping 7% solution for sale on amazon! 


Tim




________________________________
 From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:15 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
 


 
That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim.   Iodine is: Anti fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also a vital mineral needed by the body.  I would add here, that this article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent.  Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7 people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using any Iodine supplement.   Of interest here, is that NO one is this group of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted 24 hrs.  My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was also ill
 with multiple health conditions.   Another's skin patch was gone in less then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative test.
Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward, but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your body. It will tell you what's working and not.

From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies. Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help explain her findings...

Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take over when our natural defenses get low...

Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)

Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine for the Lyme?

http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html

Tim

________________________________

From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something

I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours

a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have

helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much

anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've

had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden

recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which

hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out

lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was

shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3

weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put

out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed

to let me body rest and go limp at first!

But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might

need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients

who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the

circuit....

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----

From: Tim <[hidden email]>

To: eSens <[hidden email]>

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding

yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF

shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's

been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly

grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...

It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator

improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the

RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help.

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps

it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim

________________________________

From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone

tried

&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent

posts and

&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior?

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no

control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a

practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since

I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding

materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

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Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific form for that, without alcohol perhaps?  I take nascent drops in the mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) 


You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and day difference in normalizing my flora.


I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine, I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and within a week or so, it completely dropped off!  It didn't even leave a scar!  I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on the power of iodine.  :-)  BTW, it's been about 7 months since then, and it's not grown back! 


Tim



________________________________
 From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
 


 
Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants
me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most
important minerals for lyme!  but I don't think I mentioned iodine in
my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years,
a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than
most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've
had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections...

-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim.   Iodine is: Anti
fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also
a vital mineral needed by the body.  I would add here, that this
article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this
using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be
found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent.
Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to
use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7
people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using
any Iodine supplement.   Of interest here, is that NO one is this group
of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted
24 hrs.  My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch
lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's
skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was  also ill with
multiple health conditions.   Another's skin patch was gone in less
then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative
test.
Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward,
but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your
body. It will tell you what's working and not.

From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block
the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies.
Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also
filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help
explain her findings...

Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when
I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take
over when our natural defenses get low...

Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping
people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)

Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine
for the Lyme?

http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html

Tim

________________________________

From: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something

I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours

a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have

helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much

anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've

had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden

recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which

hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out

lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was

shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3

weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put

out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed

to let me body rest and go limp at first!

But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might

need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients

who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the

circuit....

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----

From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding

yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF

shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's

been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly

grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...

It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator

improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the

RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help.

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps

it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim

________________________________

From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone

tried

&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent

posts and

&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior?

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no

control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a

practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since

I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding

materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

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Hey Timbo,
I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO, changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These spots burn when pressed. 
Laurie


________________________________
 From: Tim <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
 


 
Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific form for that, without alcohol perhaps?  I take nascent drops in the mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) 

You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and day difference in normalizing my flora.

I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine, I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and within a week or so, it completely dropped off!  It didn't even leave a scar!  I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on the power of iodine.  :-)  BTW, it's been about 7 months since then, and it's not grown back! 

Tim

________________________________
From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance


 
Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants
me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most
important minerals for lyme!  but I don't think I mentioned iodine in
my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years,
a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than
most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've
had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections...

-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim.   Iodine is: Anti
fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also
a vital mineral needed by the body.  I would add here, that this
article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this
using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be
found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent.
Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to
use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7
people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using
any Iodine supplement.   Of interest here, is that NO one is this group
of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted
24 hrs.  My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch
lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's
skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was  also ill with
multiple health conditions.   Another's skin patch was gone in less
then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative
test.
Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward,
but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your
body. It will tell you what's working and not.

From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block
the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies.
Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also
filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help
explain her findings...

Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when
I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take
over when our natural defenses get low...

Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping
people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)

Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine
for the Lyme?

http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html

Tim

________________________________

From: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something

I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours

a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have

helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much

anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've

had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden

recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which

hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out

lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was

shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3

weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put

out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed

to let me body rest and go limp at first!

But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might

need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients

who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the

circuit....

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----

From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding

yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF

shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's

been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly

grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...

It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator

improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the

RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help.

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps

it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim

________________________________

From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone

tried

&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent

posts and

&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior?

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no

control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a

practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since

I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding

materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

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Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier, amazing! 


You can count your blessings!


Tim



________________________________
 From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
 


 
Hey Timbo,
I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO, changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These spots burn when pressed. 
Laurie

________________________________
From: Tim <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance


 
Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific form for that, without alcohol perhaps?  I take nascent drops in the mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) 

You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and day difference in normalizing my flora.

I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine, I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and within a week or so, it completely dropped off!  It didn't even leave a scar!  I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on the power of iodine.  :-)  BTW, it's been about 7 months since then, and it's not grown back! 

Tim

________________________________
From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants
me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most
important minerals for lyme!  but I don't think I mentioned iodine in
my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years,
a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than
most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've
had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections...

-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim.   Iodine is: Anti
fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also
a vital mineral needed by the body.  I would add here, that this
article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this
using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be
found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent.
Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to
use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7
people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using
any Iodine supplement.   Of interest here, is that NO one is this group
of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted
24 hrs.  My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch
lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's
skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was  also ill with
multiple health conditions.   Another's skin patch was gone in less
then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative
test.
Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward,
but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your
body. It will tell you what's working and not.

From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block
the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies.
Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also
filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help
explain her findings...

Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when
I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take
over when our natural defenses get low...

Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping
people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)

Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine
for the Lyme?

http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html

Tim

________________________________

From: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something

I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours

a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have

helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much

anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've

had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden

recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which

hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out

lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was

shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3

weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put

out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed

to let me body rest and go limp at first!

But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might

need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients

who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the

circuit....

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----

From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding

yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF

shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's

been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly

grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...

It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator

improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the

RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help.

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps

it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim

________________________________

From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone

tried

&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent

posts and

&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior?

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no

control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a

practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since

I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding

materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

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Tim,

I am counting and hoping for more!
Several of my friends have recovered from serious cancer taking the Oncolyn. I have known about it for about 6 years. However, I wonder just how many people will be able to recover if they keep on exposing themselves (or are exposed without knowledge) to EMR.
Imagine, so many natural cures for cancer and other conditions ruined by invisible, insidious EMR. Then along come the skeptics with their rhetoric....those quack cures!
Incredible. Continuous searching and researching to keep a step ahead of the wolf.
Thanks to all contributors in this group we can keep learning.
Laurie


________________________________
 From: Tim <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:06:34 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
 


 
Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier, amazing! 

You can count your blessings!

Tim

________________________________
From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance


 
Hey Timbo,
I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO, changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These spots burn when pressed. 
Laurie

________________________________
From: Tim <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific form for that, without alcohol perhaps?  I take nascent drops in the mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) 

You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and day difference in normalizing my flora.

I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine, I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and within a week or so, it completely dropped off!  It didn't even leave a scar!  I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on the power of iodine.  :-)  BTW, it's been about 7 months since then, and it's not grown back! 

Tim

________________________________
From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants
me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most
important minerals for lyme!  but I don't think I mentioned iodine in
my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years,
a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than
most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've
had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections...

-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim.   Iodine is: Anti
fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also
a vital mineral needed by the body.  I would add here, that this
article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this
using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be
found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent.
Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to
use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7
people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using
any Iodine supplement.   Of interest here, is that NO one is this group
of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted
24 hrs.  My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch
lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's
skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was  also ill with
multiple health conditions.   Another's skin patch was gone in less
then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative
test.
Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward,
but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your
body. It will tell you what's working and not.

From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block
the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies.
Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also
filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help
explain her findings...

Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when
I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take
over when our natural defenses get low...

Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping
people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)

Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine
for the Lyme?

http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html

Tim

________________________________

From: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something

I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours

a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have

helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much

anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've

had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden

recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which

hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out

lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was

shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3

weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put

out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed

to let me body rest and go limp at first!

But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might

need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients

who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the

circuit....

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----

From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding

yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF

shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's

been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly

grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...

It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator

improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the

RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help.

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps

it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim

________________________________

From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone

tried

&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent

posts and

&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior?

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no

control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a

practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since

I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding

materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

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Hi Tim

I think if the room you are shielding is on the ground floor, you don't need to shield the floor as the RF isn't going to come through the ground.

My room is turned into a faraday cage with aluminum foil (and aluminum insect screen on the windows). Only the walls and ceilings are done.  I've built it in such a way that everything is interconnected (i.e a multimeter can measure conductivity between any two points).  And then it's well grounded to two earthing rods outside (i.e first to the one, and then from that one to the second one).

My understanding is that the Schumann frequency will then still get through the ground.

Thanks
K



--- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@...> wrote:

Thanks for the great experience about your cancer Laurie!  will have to
look up Oncolyn!

Tim, Dr. K prescribes a brand called Triquench, it has all 3 types of
iodine in it.....thanks for your experiences you shared about iodine, I
had nothing that concrete to go on and often forget to nebulize, I will
get back on it, lol!!

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]>
To: eSens <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 1:41 am
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Tim,

I am counting and hoping for more!
Several of my friends have recovered from serious cancer taking the
Oncolyn. I have known about it for about 6 years. However, I wonder
just how many people will be able to recover if they keep on exposing
themselves (or are exposed without knowledge) to EMR.
Imagine, so many natural cures for cancer and other conditions ruined
by invisible, insidious EMR. Then along come the skeptics with their
rhetoric....those quack cures!
Incredible. Continuous searching and researching to keep a step ahead
of the wolf.
Thanks to all contributors in this group we can keep learning.
Laurie

________________________________
 From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:06:34 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance


 
Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The
DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of
Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier,
amazing! 

You can count your blessings!

Tim

________________________________
From: Laurie Corbeil &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Hey Timbo,
I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that
stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi
router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump
changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO,
changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert
to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's
instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These
spots burn when pressed. 
Laurie

________________________________
From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific
form for that, without alcohol perhaps?  I take nascent drops in the
mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) 

You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is
the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and
day difference in normalizing my flora.

I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my
forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but
I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I
had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots
flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would
always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine,
I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and
within a week or so, it completely dropped off!  It didn't even leave a
scar!  I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on
the power of iodine.  :-)  BTW, it's been about 7 months since then,
and it's not grown back! 

Tim

________________________________
From: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants
me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most
important minerals for lyme!  but I don't think I mentioned iodine in
my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years,
a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than
most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've
had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections...

-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: [hidden email] &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim.   Iodine is: Anti
fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also
a vital mineral needed by the body.  I would add here, that this
article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this
using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be
found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent.
Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to
use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7
people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using
any Iodine supplement.   Of interest here, is that NO one is this group
of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted
24 hrs.  My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch
lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's
skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was  also ill with
multiple health conditions.   Another's skin patch was gone in less
then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative
test.
Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward,
but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your
body. It will tell you what's working and not.

From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block
the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies.
Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also
filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help
explain her findings...

Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when
I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take
over when our natural defenses get low...

Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping
people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)

Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine
for the Lyme?

http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html

Tim

________________________________

From: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something

I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours

a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have

helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much

anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've

had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden

recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which

hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out

lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was

shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3

weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put

out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed

to let me body rest and go limp at first!

But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might

need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients

who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the

circuit....

Thanks!

-----Original Message-----

From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding

yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF

shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's

been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly

grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...

It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator

improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the

RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help.

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps

it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim

________________________________

From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone

tried

&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent

posts and

&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior?

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no

control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a

practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since

I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding

materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

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You are welcome, Debbie. 
I still do not know if it was cancer or some weird reaction to WiFi, but I have always felt the need to know about natural remedies for cancer...before it happens. Earth Clinic website is a good source of information.
A friend of mine had breast cancer diagnosed. She went to a Homeopathic doctor and was given the Oncolyn and Mangosteen, along with a few other supplements. In 3 weeks her cancer disappeared. We know because she went for surgery to have it removed and it was gone. The surgeons went in 3 times and could not find it. They even pressured her to have radiation after it was gone but she refused. She is fine today, 5 years later.
Sincerely,
Laurie


________________________________
 From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:25:58 AM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance
 


 
Thanks for the great experience about your cancer Laurie!  will have to
look up Oncolyn!

Tim, Dr. K prescribes a brand called Triquench, it has all 3 types of
iodine in it.....thanks for your experiences you shared about iodine, I
had nothing that concrete to go on and often forget to nebulize, I will
get back on it, lol!!

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]>
To: eSens <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 1:41 am
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Tim,

I am counting and hoping for more!
Several of my friends have recovered from serious cancer taking the
Oncolyn. I have known about it for about 6 years. However, I wonder
just how many people will be able to recover if they keep on exposing
themselves (or are exposed without knowledge) to EMR.
Imagine, so many natural cures for cancer and other conditions ruined
by invisible, insidious EMR. Then along come the skeptics with their
rhetoric....those quack cures!
Incredible. Continuous searching and researching to keep a step ahead
of the wolf.
Thanks to all contributors in this group we can keep learning.
Laurie

________________________________
From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:06:34 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The
DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of
Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier,
amazing! 

You can count your blessings!

Tim

________________________________
From: Laurie Corbeil &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Hey Timbo,
I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that
stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi
router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump
changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO,
changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert
to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's
instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These
spots burn when pressed. 
Laurie

________________________________
From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific
form for that, without alcohol perhaps?  I take nascent drops in the
mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) 

You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is
the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and
day difference in normalizing my flora.

I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my
forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but
I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I
had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots
flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would
always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine,
I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and
within a week or so, it completely dropped off!  It didn't even leave a
scar!  I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on
the power of iodine.  :-)  BTW, it's been about 7 months since then,
and it's not grown back! 

Tim

________________________________
From: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants
me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most
important minerals for lyme!  but I don't think I mentioned iodine in
my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years,
a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than
most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've
had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections...

-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
To: [hidden email] &lt;[hidden email]&gt;
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm
Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

 
That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim.   Iodine is: Anti
fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also
a vital mineral needed by the body.  I would add here, that this
article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this
using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be
found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent.
Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to
use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7
people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using
any Iodine supplement.   Of interest here, is that NO one is this group
of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted
24 hrs.  My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch
lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's
skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was  also ill with
multiple health conditions.   Another's skin patch was gone in less
then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative
test.
Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]
From: [hidden email]
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward,
but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your
body. It will tell you what's working and not.

From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block
the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies.
Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also
filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help
explain her findings...

Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when
I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take
over when our natural defenses get low...

Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping
people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)

Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine
for the Lyme?

http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html

Tim

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From: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something

I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours

a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have

helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much

anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've

had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden

recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which

hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out

lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was

shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3

weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put

out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed

to let me body rest and go limp at first!

But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might

need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients

who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the

circuit....

Thanks!

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From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding

yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF

shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's

been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly

grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...

It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator

improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the

RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help.

If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps

it's something we'll hear more about at some point...

Tim

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From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email]

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance

&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone

tried

&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent

posts and

&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.

i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)

&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior?

I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no

control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a

practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since

I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding

materials sounds like a bad idea to me...

Marc

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I'm still looking for the ingredients IN Oncolyn.So far, haven't found them.Only components.. I like to "know" exactly what's in any product I'm taking. Anyone here find the list of actual ingredients for this product? lizzie
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      Thanks for the great experience about your cancer Laurie!  will have to

look up Oncolyn!



Tim, Dr. K prescribes a brand called Triquench, it has all 3 types of

iodine in it.....thanks for your experiences you shared about iodine, I

had nothing that concrete to go on and often forget to nebulize, I will

get back on it, lol!!



Debbie



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From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]>

To: eSens <[hidden email]>

Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 1:41 am

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



 

Tim,



I am counting and hoping for more!

Several of my friends have recovered from serious cancer taking the

Oncolyn. I have known about it for about 6 years. However, I wonder

just how many people will be able to recover if they keep on exposing

themselves (or are exposed without knowledge) to EMR.

Imagine, so many natural cures for cancer and other conditions ruined

by invisible, insidious EMR. Then along come the skeptics with their

rhetoric....those quack cures!

Incredible. Continuous searching and researching to keep a step ahead

of the wolf.

Thanks to all contributors in this group we can keep learning.

Laurie



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To: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:06:34 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



 

Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The

DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of

Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier,

amazing!



You can count your blessings!



Tim



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To: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



 

Hey Timbo,

I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that

stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi

router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump

changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO,

changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert

to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's

instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These

spots burn when pressed.

Laurie



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From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



 

Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific

form for that, without alcohol perhaps?  I take nascent drops in the

mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-)



You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is

the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and

day difference in normalizing my flora.



I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my

forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but

I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I

had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots

flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would

always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine,

I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and

within a week or so, it completely dropped off!  It didn't even leave a

scar!  I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on

the power of iodine.  :-)  BTW, it's been about 7 months since then,

and it's not grown back!



Tim



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Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM

Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



 

Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants

me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most

important minerals for lyme!  but I don't think I mentioned iodine in

my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years,

a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than

most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've

had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections...



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From: Elizabeth thode &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

To: [hidden email] &lt;[hidden email]&gt;

Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm

Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



 

That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim.   Iodine is: Anti

fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also

a vital mineral needed by the body.  I would add here, that this

article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this

using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be

found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent.

Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to

use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7

people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using

any Iodine supplement.   Of interest here, is that NO one is this group

of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted

24 hrs.  My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch

lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's

skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was  also ill with

multiple health conditions.   Another's skin patch was gone in less

then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative

test.

Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email]

From: [hidden email]

Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700

Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward,

but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your

body. It will tell you what's working and not.



From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block

the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies.

Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also

filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help

explain her findings...



Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when

I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take

over when our natural defenses get low...



Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping

people, wonderful!  I wish I had met him 5 years ago!  :-)



Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine

for the Lyme?



http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html



Tim



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From: "[hidden email]" &lt;[hidden email]&gt;



To: [hidden email]



Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM



Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something



I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours



a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have



helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much



anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've



had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden



recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which



hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out



lots of known biotoxins)  Anyway it showed a before control that was



shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3



weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put



out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed



to let me body rest and go limp at first!



But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might



need too!  Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients



who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the



circuit....



Thanks!



-----Original Message-----



From: Tim &lt;[hidden email]&gt;



To: eSens &lt;[hidden email]&gt;



Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm



Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding



yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF



shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work!  Seems (and it's



been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly



grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky...



It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator



improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the



RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help.



If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps



it's something we'll hear more about at some point...



Tim



________________________________



From: Marc Martin &lt;[hidden email]&gt;



To: [hidden email]



Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM



Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance



&gt; I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?  Has anyone



tried



&gt; shielding plus a Schumann generator?  I looked back through recent



posts and



&gt; saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results.



i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?)



&gt; Marc, do you also shield your interior?



I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no



control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a



practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials.  And since



I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding



materials sounds like a bad idea to me...



Marc



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