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5%but two would probably work as well of the Lugols',especially for the "stain" test. Lizzie
To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 20:21:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the info Lizzie! I had the same result with painting nascent on the skin. It absorbed within a couple of hours, super fast... I'd like to try the Lugol's to test my status. What percentage strength of Lugol's did you use? I'm seeing 2, 5, and a whopping 7% solution for sale on amazon! Tim ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:15 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim. Iodine is: Anti fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also a vital mineral needed by the body. I would add here, that this article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent. Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7 people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using any Iodine supplement. Of interest here, is that NO one is this group of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted 24 hrs. My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was also ill with multiple health conditions. Another's skin patch was gone in less then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative test. Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward, but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your body. It will tell you what's working and not. From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies. Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help explain her findings... Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take over when our natural defenses get low... Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping people, wonderful! I wish I had met him 5 years ago! :-) Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine for the Lyme? http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out lots of known biotoxins) Anyway it showed a before control that was shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3 weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed to let me body rest and go limp at first! But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might need too! Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the circuit.... Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work! Seems (and it's been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky... It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help. If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps it's something we'll hear more about at some point... Tim ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment? Has anyone tried > shielding plus a Schumann generator? I looked back through recent posts and > saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results. i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?) > Marc, do you also shield your interior? I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials. And since I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding materials sounds like a bad idea to me... 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laurie, hi!
this is great to know - and i'd like to know more. any chance you could find out what the other items were that she took? thanks. love, patricia On May 2, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> wrote: > A friend of mine had breast cancer diagnosed. She went to a Homeopathic doctor and was given the Oncolyn and Mangosteen, along with a few other supplements. In 3 weeks her cancer disappeared. We know because she went for surgery to have it removed and it was gone. The surgeons went in 3 times and could not find it. They even pressured her to have radiation after it was gone but she refused. She is fine today, 5 years later. > Sincerely, > Laurie |
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Lizzie,
There is a fellow in Alberta who treats advises people on the use of Oncolyn. His website is inukshuknaturals.ca or .com. His name is Daryl Robinson. You can email him for details on the ingredients. He knows the inventor personally, Dr. DJang. Laurie ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 10:03:09 AM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance I'm still looking for the ingredients IN Oncolyn.So far, haven't found them.Only components.. I like to "know" exactly what's in any product I'm taking. Anyone here find the list of actual ingredients for this product? lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 12:25:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the great experience about your cancer Laurie! will have to look up Oncolyn! Tim, Dr. K prescribes a brand called Triquench, it has all 3 types of iodine in it.....thanks for your experiences you shared about iodine, I had nothing that concrete to go on and often forget to nebulize, I will get back on it, lol!! Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 1:41 am Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim, I am counting and hoping for more! Several of my friends have recovered from serious cancer taking the Oncolyn. I have known about it for about 6 years. However, I wonder just how many people will be able to recover if they keep on exposing themselves (or are exposed without knowledge) to EMR. Imagine, so many natural cures for cancer and other conditions ruined by invisible, insidious EMR. Then along come the skeptics with their rhetoric....those quack cures! Incredible. Continuous searching and researching to keep a step ahead of the wolf. Thanks to all contributors in this group we can keep learning. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:06:34 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier, amazing! You can count your blessings! Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hey Timbo, I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO, changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These spots burn when pressed. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific form for that, without alcohol perhaps? I take nascent drops in the mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and day difference in normalizing my flora. I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine, I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and within a week or so, it completely dropped off! It didn't even leave a scar! I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on the power of iodine. :-) BTW, it's been about 7 months since then, and it's not grown back! Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most important minerals for lyme! but I don't think I mentioned iodine in my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years, a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections... -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim. Iodine is: Anti fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also a vital mineral needed by the body. I would add here, that this article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent. Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7 people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using any Iodine supplement. Of interest here, is that NO one is this group of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted 24 hrs. My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was also ill with multiple health conditions. Another's skin patch was gone in less then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative test. Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward, but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your body. It will tell you what's working and not. From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies. Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help explain her findings... Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take over when our natural defenses get low... Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping people, wonderful! I wish I had met him 5 years ago! :-) Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine for the Lyme? http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out lots of known biotoxins) Anyway it showed a before control that was shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3 weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed to let me body rest and go limp at first! But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might need too! Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the circuit.... Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work! Seems (and it's been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky... It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help. If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps it's something we'll hear more about at some point... Tim ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment? Has anyone tried > shielding plus a Schumann generator? I looked back through recent posts and > saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results. i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?) > Marc, do you also shield your interior? I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials. And since I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding materials sounds like a bad idea to me... 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Yes, I'm grateful we can share and learn too...
Good stuff, Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim, I am counting and hoping for more! Several of my friends have recovered from serious cancer taking the Oncolyn. I have known about it for about 6 years. However, I wonder just how many people will be able to recover if they keep on exposing themselves (or are exposed without knowledge) to EMR. Imagine, so many natural cures for cancer and other conditions ruined by invisible, insidious EMR. Then along come the skeptics with their rhetoric....those quack cures! Incredible. Continuous searching and researching to keep a step ahead of the wolf. Thanks to all contributors in this group we can keep learning. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:06:34 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier, amazing! You can count your blessings! Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hey Timbo, I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO, changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These spots burn when pressed. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific form for that, without alcohol perhaps? I take nascent drops in the mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and day difference in normalizing my flora. I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine, I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and within a week or so, it completely dropped off! It didn't even leave a scar! I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on the power of iodine. :-) BTW, it's been about 7 months since then, and it's not grown back! Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most important minerals for lyme! but I don't think I mentioned iodine in my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years, a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections... -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim. Iodine is: Anti fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also a vital mineral needed by the body. I would add here, that this article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent. Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7 people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using any Iodine supplement. Of interest here, is that NO one is this group of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted 24 hrs. My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was also ill with multiple health conditions. Another's skin patch was gone in less then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative test. Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward, but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your body. It will tell you what's working and not. From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies. Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help explain her findings... Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take over when our natural defenses get low... Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping people, wonderful! I wish I had met him 5 years ago! :-) Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine for the Lyme? http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out lots of known biotoxins) Anyway it showed a before control that was shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3 weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed to let me body rest and go limp at first! But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might need too! Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the circuit.... Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work! Seems (and it's been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky... It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help. If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps it's something we'll hear more about at some point... Tim ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment? Has anyone tried > shielding plus a Schumann generator? I looked back through recent posts and > saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results. i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?) > Marc, do you also shield your interior? I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials. And since I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding materials sounds like a bad idea to me... 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Thanks so much for the feedback K... This practitioner had different findings, and so that's why I posed the question to the group. I think if the faraday cage is working for you, that's the answer, eh? :-) If it's not, then perhaps a Schumann generator might be the next thing to test.
Having ES gives us a great opportunity to use our creativity and learn trial and error! :-) Tim ________________________________ From: kikkie2004 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:40 AM Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hi Tim I think if the room you are shielding is on the ground floor, you don't need to shield the floor as the RF isn't going to come through the ground. My room is turned into a faraday cage with aluminum foil (and aluminum insect screen on the windows). Only the walls and ceilings are done. I've built it in such a way that everything is interconnected (i.e a multimeter can measure conductivity between any two points). And then it's well grounded to two earthing rods outside (i.e first to the one, and then from that one to the second one). My understanding is that the Schumann frequency will then still get through the ground. Thanks K --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@...> wrote: > > Hmmm, not sure... I thought to create an effective faraday cage for RF, it needs to be shielded on all sides and grounded, but I have no experience with this. The link that HJR provided below may help answer... > > I don't know if the Schumann frequency passes below the ground surface. The results of testing people living below ground indicated the Schumann resonance is found only above ground... > > Interesting thought! > > > I suppose you could test your design with an RF meter and a meter that could measure the Schumann frequency. I wonder if a Spectran Spectrum Analyzer might pick it up... I would love one of those puppies! > > > Tim > > > > ________________________________ > From: egg_chips_and_beans <charliefoulkes@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:32 AM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > > >  > > My understanding is that a faraday cage only has to be 5 sides of a cube... so assuming you slept on the floor (earthed) you would get the Schumann resonance anyway? > > e.g. much like a microwave oven has a window you get a side of the cage which could be used as the floor. > > --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@> wrote: > > > > Thanks for your feedback HJR... > > > > > > I wish we had the practitioner who made this comment here in the group, so she could give us more details. I wondered about this... Thanks for the info and primer link. It makes sense... > > > > Love your emoticon, LOL! Look forward to hearing your further thoughts and others as well... > > > > Happy grounding, > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: H J R <hudjr@> > > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > > > > > > >  > > Tim wrote: > > > >  I have been treating electro sensitive clients with Schumann frequencies for over 10 years now so a word of > > caution for those who are totally blocking out EMFs ....When making a Faradays cage for sleeping in or trying to shield your home > > environment from effects of EMFs.... You are also simultaneously blocking out the Schumann frequencies and for many people with Electro > > sensitivity > > such shielding may initially appear to help the sufferers in respect of > > protecting them from the EMFs but ultimately the symptoms > > experienced > > may change to mimic those experienced by the students in the film when > > kept underground also as evidenced by the early astronauts > > and > > cosmonauts who were returning to earth sick, such symptoms were only > > remedied once Schumann frequency generators were installed. > > > > I > > wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment? Has anyone tried > > shielding plus a Schumann generator? I looked back through recent posts and saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results. > > > > Hud comments: > > > > I think it is a false assertion that a Faraday cage created for shielding against EMFs would have the effect of also blocking the earth's +/- 7 Hz (Shumann frequency) 'micropulsations'. The lower you go in terms of frequency (i.e., the larger the wavelength), the harder it is to block EMFs--as a rule. It is relatively easy to block microwaves (~ centimeters wavelength) because at such high frequencies (Megahertz to Gigahertz) the EM waves are unable to penetrate very far into a conductor. This is not true of lower frequencies (e.g. Kilohertz) like AM radio, where the wavelengths are hundreds of meters long. Especially for mains frequency (50/60 Hz) fields that have ~5 Km long wavelength. As far as I know, to block 60 Hz fields, you need to use specific high conductivity metals (copper, silver, mu metal) and it has to be quite thick because of the high surface area required for 5 Km waves to conduct. > > > > A Faraday cage made out of thin aluminium mesh (insect screen) can effectively block radio frequency waves because with short wavelengths, there is a corresponding reduction in the surface area required for conduction and hence, penetration is low. This low surface area requirement for radio frequency waves to conduct also allows the use of mesh, as opposed to a solid material (which provides a higher surface area for conduction). > > > > I've been studying this stuff recently. I found this helpful 'primer' online, which was created to teach students about electromagnetism--by exploring the concepts involved with a Faraday Cageand by building one too. > > http://wiki.laptop.org/images/3/3f/Faraday_Cage_Activity.pdf > > > > More comment about shumann resonance, sick astronauts & ill effects of Faraday cages in a bit... I'm too irradiated right now! > > > > Here's my 'ELECTROSTRESSED' symbol/emoticon [!]:   ⚡$>( > > > >  This is the End...     > >  > > > >  ~=~ > >  HJR > > _________________________________________________________ > > nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet > > You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I had the same problem Lizzie, could only find this info:
Proanthocyanidins 100 mg, Plant Saponins 100 mg, Plant Polyphenols 100 mg They say that they are patent pending, so they may be withholding ingredients until patented... Here's some insight from Dr. Arthur Djang's profile: http://www.oncolyn.org/dr-arthur-djang-m-d/ "The concept of Chinese natural and herbal supplements emphasizes on the universal improvement of the immune system. Regulating the physiology enabling the cells to repair, regenerate and restore functions. Oncolyn® targets this principle." It might be a Chinese herbal formula... If that's the case, I sure hope it's tested for heavy metals! Tim ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:03 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance I'm still looking for the ingredients IN Oncolyn.So far, haven't found them.Only components.. I like to "know" exactly what's in any product I'm taking. Anyone here find the list of actual ingredients for this product? lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 12:25:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the great experience about your cancer Laurie! will have to look up Oncolyn! Tim, Dr. K prescribes a brand called Triquench, it has all 3 types of iodine in it.....thanks for your experiences you shared about iodine, I had nothing that concrete to go on and often forget to nebulize, I will get back on it, lol!! Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 1:41 am Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim, I am counting and hoping for more! Several of my friends have recovered from serious cancer taking the Oncolyn. I have known about it for about 6 years. However, I wonder just how many people will be able to recover if they keep on exposing themselves (or are exposed without knowledge) to EMR. Imagine, so many natural cures for cancer and other conditions ruined by invisible, insidious EMR. Then along come the skeptics with their rhetoric....those quack cures! Incredible. Continuous searching and researching to keep a step ahead of the wolf. Thanks to all contributors in this group we can keep learning. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:06:34 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier, amazing! You can count your blessings! Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hey Timbo, I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO, changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These spots burn when pressed. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific form for that, without alcohol perhaps? I take nascent drops in the mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and day difference in normalizing my flora. I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine, I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and within a week or so, it completely dropped off! It didn't even leave a scar! I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on the power of iodine. :-) BTW, it's been about 7 months since then, and it's not grown back! Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most important minerals for lyme! but I don't think I mentioned iodine in my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years, a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections... -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim. Iodine is: Anti fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also a vital mineral needed by the body. I would add here, that this article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent. Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7 people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using any Iodine supplement. Of interest here, is that NO one is this group of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted 24 hrs. My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was also ill with multiple health conditions. Another's skin patch was gone in less then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative test. Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward, but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your body. It will tell you what's working and not. From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies. Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help explain her findings... Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take over when our natural defenses get low... Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping people, wonderful! I wish I had met him 5 years ago! :-) Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine for the Lyme? http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out lots of known biotoxins) Anyway it showed a before control that was shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3 weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed to let me body rest and go limp at first! But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might need too! Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the circuit.... Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work! Seems (and it's been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky... It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help. If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps it's something we'll hear more about at some point... Tim ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment? Has anyone tried > shielding plus a Schumann generator? I looked back through recent posts and > saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results. i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?) > Marc, do you also shield your interior? I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials. And since I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding materials sounds like a bad idea to me... 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Thanks so much Debbie. And I thought nascent iodine was expensive! He, he, he... But look at what you get:
Triquench contains 19mg of iodine PER DROP! Wowser! One drop would last me almost 2 weeks! :-) The company says to always take Selenium with it... They list the source as Potassium Iodide. http://scientificbotanicals.net/triquench.html I think you'll find that iodine is one of your best allies. Please keep us posted on how it goes for you... Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the great experience about your cancer Laurie! will have to look up Oncolyn! Tim, Dr. K prescribes a brand called Triquench, it has all 3 types of iodine in it.....thanks for your experiences you shared about iodine, I had nothing that concrete to go on and often forget to nebulize, I will get back on it, lol!! Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 1:41 am Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim, I am counting and hoping for more! Several of my friends have recovered from serious cancer taking the Oncolyn. I have known about it for about 6 years. However, I wonder just how many people will be able to recover if they keep on exposing themselves (or are exposed without knowledge) to EMR. Imagine, so many natural cures for cancer and other conditions ruined by invisible, insidious EMR. Then along come the skeptics with their rhetoric....those quack cures! Incredible. Continuous searching and researching to keep a step ahead of the wolf. Thanks to all contributors in this group we can keep learning. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:06:34 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier, amazing! You can count your blessings! Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hey Timbo, I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO, changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These spots burn when pressed. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific form for that, without alcohol perhaps? I take nascent drops in the mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and day difference in normalizing my flora. I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine, I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and within a week or so, it completely dropped off! It didn't even leave a scar! I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on the power of iodine. :-) BTW, it's been about 7 months since then, and it's not grown back! Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most important minerals for lyme! but I don't think I mentioned iodine in my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years, a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections... -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim. Iodine is: Anti fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also a vital mineral needed by the body. I would add here, that this article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent. Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7 people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using any Iodine supplement. Of interest here, is that NO one is this group of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted 24 hrs. My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was also ill with multiple health conditions. Another's skin patch was gone in less then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative test. Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward, but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your body. It will tell you what's working and not. From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies. Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help explain her findings... Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take over when our natural defenses get low... Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping people, wonderful! I wish I had met him 5 years ago! :-) Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine for the Lyme? http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out lots of known biotoxins) Anyway it showed a before control that was shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3 weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed to let me body rest and go limp at first! But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might need too! Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the circuit.... Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work! Seems (and it's been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky... It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help. If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps it's something we'll hear more about at some point... Tim ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment? Has anyone tried > shielding plus a Schumann generator? I looked back through recent posts and > saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results. i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?) > Marc, do you also shield your interior? I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials. And since I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding materials sounds like a bad idea to me... 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Yes, there's a good point, tested for purity.Otherwise, this has been out for awhile.... no reason NOT to list the ingredients.That is always a red flag for me. Lizzie
To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 12:05:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance I had the same problem Lizzie, could only find this info: Proanthocyanidins 100 mg, Plant Saponins 100 mg, Plant Polyphenols 100 mg They say that they are patent pending, so they may be withholding ingredients until patented... Here's some insight from Dr. Arthur Djang's profile: http://www.oncolyn.org/dr-arthur-djang-m-d/ "The concept of Chinese natural and herbal supplements emphasizes on the universal improvement of the immune system. Regulating the physiology enabling the cells to repair, regenerate and restore functions. Oncolyn® targets this principle." It might be a Chinese herbal formula... If that's the case, I sure hope it's tested for heavy metals! Tim ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:03 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance I'm still looking for the ingredients IN Oncolyn.So far, haven't found them.Only components.. I like to "know" exactly what's in any product I'm taking. Anyone here find the list of actual ingredients for this product? lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 12:25:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the great experience about your cancer Laurie! will have to look up Oncolyn! Tim, Dr. K prescribes a brand called Triquench, it has all 3 types of iodine in it.....thanks for your experiences you shared about iodine, I had nothing that concrete to go on and often forget to nebulize, I will get back on it, lol!! Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 1:41 am Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim, I am counting and hoping for more! Several of my friends have recovered from serious cancer taking the Oncolyn. I have known about it for about 6 years. However, I wonder just how many people will be able to recover if they keep on exposing themselves (or are exposed without knowledge) to EMR. Imagine, so many natural cures for cancer and other conditions ruined by invisible, insidious EMR. Then along come the skeptics with their rhetoric....those quack cures! Incredible. Continuous searching and researching to keep a step ahead of the wolf. Thanks to all contributors in this group we can keep learning. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:06:34 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier, amazing! You can count your blessings! Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hey Timbo, I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO, changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These spots burn when pressed. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific form for that, without alcohol perhaps? I take nascent drops in the mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and day difference in normalizing my flora. I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine, I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and within a week or so, it completely dropped off! It didn't even leave a scar! I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on the power of iodine. :-) BTW, it's been about 7 months since then, and it's not grown back! Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most important minerals for lyme! but I don't think I mentioned iodine in my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years, a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections... -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim. Iodine is: Anti fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also a vital mineral needed by the body. I would add here, that this article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent. Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7 people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using any Iodine supplement. Of interest here, is that NO one is this group of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted 24 hrs. My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was also ill with multiple health conditions. Another's skin patch was gone in less then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative test. Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward, but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your body. It will tell you what's working and not. From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies. Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help explain her findings... Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take over when our natural defenses get low... Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping people, wonderful! I wish I had met him 5 years ago! :-) Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine for the Lyme? http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out lots of known biotoxins) Anyway it showed a before control that was shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3 weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed to let me body rest and go limp at first! But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might need too! Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the circuit.... Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work! Seems (and it's been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky... It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help. If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps it's something we'll hear more about at some point... Tim ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment? Has anyone tried > shielding plus a Schumann generator? I looked back through recent posts and > saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results. i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?) > Marc, do you also shield your interior? I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials. And since I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding materials sounds like a bad idea to me... 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I would want to know exactly what's in it as well, but the testimonials speak for themselves. If people are being helped greatly and you don't have to take it for long periods of time, it shows promise. Fortunately there aremany ways to approach cancer, and this is one of many weapons against the condition.
There's the Ketogenic approach, which Laurie mentioned, doing a no carb diet... I say starve the buggers! http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/03/10/ketogenic-diet.aspx?e_cid=20130310_SNL_Art_1&utm_source=snl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20130310 Dr. Budwig's protocol: http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/budwig_protocol.html The Linus Pauling/Rath research: http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/lysprolarvit.html There's a newer cancer screening test called tFFDP can reveal risk and early detection: http://www.pannaturopathic.com/naturopathcancer.html It's a relief to me that there are so many alternatives to traditional radiation/chemo out there... I saw a friend of the family die due to radiation treatments. He had a small lung tumor, but it was only detected by accident. He went to the doctor for something completely unrelated. He would have lived so much longer if he hadn't begun treatment, but the radiation took him within two months. It was terrible. He wasn't able to eat, became incontinent. In this case and in my opinion, the treatment was far worse than the disease. Tim ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 2:45 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Yes, there's a good point, tested for purity.Otherwise, this has been out for awhile.... no reason NOT to list the ingredients.That is always a red flag for me. Lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 12:05:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance I had the same problem Lizzie, could only find this info: Proanthocyanidins 100 mg, Plant Saponins 100 mg, Plant Polyphenols 100 mg They say that they are patent pending, so they may be withholding ingredients until patented... Here's some insight from Dr. Arthur Djang's profile: http://www.oncolyn.org/dr-arthur-djang-m-d/ "The concept of Chinese natural and herbal supplements emphasizes on the universal improvement of the immune system. Regulating the physiology enabling the cells to repair, regenerate and restore functions. Oncolyn® targets this principle." It might be a Chinese herbal formula... If that's the case, I sure hope it's tested for heavy metals! Tim ________________________________ From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:03 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance I'm still looking for the ingredients IN Oncolyn.So far, haven't found them.Only components.. I like to "know" exactly what's in any product I'm taking. Anyone here find the list of actual ingredients for this product? lizzie To: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 12:25:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the great experience about your cancer Laurie! will have to look up Oncolyn! Tim, Dr. K prescribes a brand called Triquench, it has all 3 types of iodine in it.....thanks for your experiences you shared about iodine, I had nothing that concrete to go on and often forget to nebulize, I will get back on it, lol!! Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 1:41 am Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim, I am counting and hoping for more! Several of my friends have recovered from serious cancer taking the Oncolyn. I have known about it for about 6 years. However, I wonder just how many people will be able to recover if they keep on exposing themselves (or are exposed without knowledge) to EMR. Imagine, so many natural cures for cancer and other conditions ruined by invisible, insidious EMR. Then along come the skeptics with their rhetoric....those quack cures! Incredible. Continuous searching and researching to keep a step ahead of the wolf. Thanks to all contributors in this group we can keep learning. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:06:34 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Laurie, that was a close call... That's an interesting combo. The DMSO allows the iodine to penetrate more easily. I've not heard of Oncolyn, but looked it up. It crosses the blood/brain barrier, amazing! You can count your blessings! Tim ________________________________ From: Laurie Corbeil <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hey Timbo, I had weird spots on my skin, too. I had a lump on my breast that stayed there for about a year (this after I was sleeping with a wifi router within 3 feet of me for a year), then all of a sudden the lump changed and turned red and grew. I used Lugol's iodine and DMSO, changed my diet to a totally non carb diet...nothing that could convert to sugar. Also took Oncolyn and L-lysine according to Ted's instructions. It took 6 weeks to go. I never knew what it was. These spots burn when pressed. Laurie ________________________________ From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:00:29 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Wow Debbie, nebulizing iodine, amazing. Does he recommend a specific form for that, without alcohol perhaps? I take nascent drops in the mouth, and it does sting a bit. :-) You'll hear a lot about iodine from folks here... The nascent form is the single most important supplement I take, and it's made a night and day difference in normalizing my flora. I'll share something else... I've had precancerous spots appear on my forehead. A couple would appear and disappear with exposure to RF, but I had one that kept growing regardless. That's one of the signs that I had when I knew I had been around too much RF. I'd get these spots flare up. I tried to get rid of it for well over a year, and it would always bleed and immediately grow back. When I started nascent iodine, I took it internally and put a drop or two on top of the spot, and within a week or so, it completely dropped off! It didn't even leave a scar! I could not believe it, and I was completely amazed and sold on the power of iodine. :-) BTW, it's been about 7 months since then, and it's not grown back! Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 9:18 PM Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hi Tim, yes I have been prescribed some iodine for lyme...Dr. K wants me to nebulize it into my lungs.....he thinks its one of the most important minerals for lyme! but I don't think I mentioned iodine in my post.....thanks for the rest, yes I've had lyme for many many years, a child, just learned a few years ago what it was....I am more ES than most anyone I know, so probably because of the infections...plus I've had babesia, bartonella, h pylori as coinfections... -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 9:48 pm Subject: RE: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance That's a nice little article on the Lyme/Iodine, Tim. Iodine is: Anti fungal, Anti parasitic, Anti bacterial, Anti Microbial....and its also a vital mineral needed by the body. I would add here, that this article mentions painting a patch of skin with Iodine.I have done this using: Tincture of Iodine (it has to be the colored stuff and can be found at some drug stores)I have used Lugol's and I have used Nascent. Nascent gets absorbed very quickly...so to me, its not a good form to use, as a skin patch.the best results I saw, with a group of 6-7 people, was using the Lugol's.This was before I actually started using any Iodine supplement. Of interest here, is that NO one is this group of people, different ages, different backgrounds, NO one's patch lasted 24 hrs. My skin patch would be gone within 21 hrs.....*my skin patch lasted longer then anyone's in this group. There was one lady who 's skin patch was gone in less then 4 hours!She was also ill with multiple health conditions. Another's skin patch was gone in less then 8 hrs. All in all, I found it a very interesting and informative test. Blessings, LizzieTo: [hidden email] From: [hidden email] Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 17:47:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks Debbie... Yes, you'd think it would be rather straight forward, but grounding and shielding can get tricky. I'd say listen to your body. It will tell you what's working and not. From what HJR was saying, it's not likely that RF shielding will block the Schumann resonance, if it's only blocking the high frequencies. Perhaps with this practitioner, she's working with shielding that also filters low frequency. We may never know since she's not here to help explain her findings... Oh yes, I've seen first hand how fungi and bacteria grow rampantly when I was living around a lot of RF. They are opportunists, so they take over when our natural defenses get low... Hey, it's good to know Seattle has a doc who's ES aware and is helping people, wonderful! I wish I had met him 5 years ago! :-) Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but are you taking iodine for the Lyme? http://www.ehow.com/about_6808707_iodine-lyme-disease.html Tim ________________________________ From: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Tim thanks so much for your feedback on all this subject, something I've wondered about as I've worn shielded long underwear set 24/7 hours a day for 2 years and a head scarf at times.....to me it seems to have helped the energy in my body seem to center me and calm down much anxiety and strong scattering of thoughts, pains in my body, etc...I've had a bad case of lyme disease and infections, and research in Sweden recently showed (using mold which puts out biotoxins as a defense which hurt the host--and I am assuming it does so for lyme as it puts out lots of known biotoxins) Anyway it showed a before control that was shielded by wire mesh for 3 weeks and then when mesh was removed for 3 weeks, just the computers lighting and fx in the air made the mold put out 600x the toxins, in more and more virulent strains.....so it seemed to let me body rest and go limp at first! But I am concernred to know if I might be blocking good things I might need too! Dr. K in Seattle, very respected has had several patients who did worse grounding unless the power was turned off on the circuit.... Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Tim <[hidden email]> To: eSens <[hidden email]> Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Thanks for the feedback Marc... I haven't experimented with shielding yet, but when I bought an Acoustimeter, it came wrapped in an RF shielded bag. I was able to measure that it did work! Seems (and it's been brought up here times before) that shielding if not properly grounded can direct more radiation to the body... It's tricky... It's interesting that the experiments showed a Schumann generator improved the participants well being, so seems if you can dissipate the RF and then provide the Schumann resonance, it should help. If no one here has tried a Schumann generator with shielding, perhaps it's something we'll hear more about at some point... Tim ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > I wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment? Has anyone tried > shielding plus a Schumann generator? I looked back through recent posts and > saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results. i can't recall anyone here benefiting from a Schumann generator... (?) > Marc, do you also shield your interior? I don't shield anything... my main problems are in areas that I have no control over (like when I'm travelling), so sheilding is not really a practical solution, other than wearing shielding materials. And since I do worse with any sort of metal on my person, wearing shielding materials sounds like a bad idea to me... 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You are welcome. It does work for me as long as I am not too close tot the aluminum walls - I can feel the radiation then. A friend of mine who is very ES can't be in this room at all, the reflections are too bad for him. When I was much more ES I could feel these reflections too, now I hardly can. My meters don't pick these up.. So yes, it does work for me (only place where I can sleep), although utopia would obviously be no signal and no faraday cage :/. K --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@...> wrote: > > Thanks so much for the feedback K... This practitioner had different findings, and so that's why I posed the question to the group. I think if the faraday cage is working for you, that's the answer, eh? :-) If it's not, then perhaps a Schumann generator might be the next thing to test. > > > Having ES gives us a great opportunity to use our creativity and learn trial and error! :-) > > > Tim > > > > ________________________________ > From: kikkie2004 <kikkiehealth@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:40 AM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > > >  > Hi Tim > > I think if the room you are shielding is on the ground floor, you don't need to shield the floor as the RF isn't going to come through the ground. > > My room is turned into a faraday cage with aluminum foil (and aluminum insect screen on the windows). Only the walls and ceilings are done. I've built it in such a way that everything is interconnected (i.e a multimeter can measure conductivity between any two points). And then it's well grounded to two earthing rods outside (i.e first to the one, and then from that one to the second one). > > My understanding is that the Schumann frequency will then still get through the ground. > > Thanks > K > > --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@> wrote: > > > > Hmmm, not sure...àI thought to create an effective faraday cage for RF, it needs to be shielded on all sides and grounded, but I have no experience with this. The link that HJR provided below may help answer...à> > > > I don't know if the Schumann frequency passes below the ground surface. The results of testing people living below ground indicated the Schumann resonance is found only above ground...à> > > > Interesting thought!à> > > > > > I suppose you could test your design with an RF meter and a meter that could measure the Schumann frequency. I wonder if a Spectran Spectrum Analyzer might pick it up... I would love one of those puppies!à> > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: egg_chips_and_beans <charliefoulkes@> > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:32 AM > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > > > > > > > à> > > > My understanding is that a faraday cage only has to be 5 sides of a cube... so assuming you slept on the floor (earthed) you would get the Schumann resonance anyway? > > > > e.g. much like a microwave oven has a window you get a side of the cage which could be used as the floor. > > > > --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback HJR... > > > > > > > > > I wish we had the practitioner who made this comment here in the group, so she could give us more details. I wondered about this... Thanks for the info and primer link. It makes sense...Ãâà> > > > > > Love your emoticon, LOL!ÃâàLook forward to hearing your further thoughts and others as well...Ãâà> > > > > > Happy grounding, > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: H J R <hudjr@> > > > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:10 PM > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > Tim wrote: > > > > > > ÃâàI have been treating electro sensitive clients with Schumann frequencies for over 10 years now so a word of > > > caution for those who are totally blocking out EMFs ....When making a Faradays cage for sleeping inÃâàor trying to shieldÃâàyour home > > > environment from effects of EMFs....ÃâàYou are also simultaneously blocking out the Schumann frequencies and for many people with Electro > > > sensitivity > > > such shielding may initially appear to help the sufferers in respect of > > > protecting them from the EMFs but ultimately the symptoms > > > experienced > > > may change to mimic those experienced by the students in the film when > > > keptÃâàunderground also as evidenced by the early astronauts > > > and > > > cosmonauts who were returning to earth sick, such symptoms were only > > > remedied once Schumann frequency generators were installed. > > > > > > I > > > wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment?ÃâàHas anyone tried > > > shielding plus a Schumann generator?ÃâàI looked back through recent posts and saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results. > > > > > > Hud comments: > > > > > > I think it is a false assertion that a Faraday cage created for shielding against EMFs would have the effect of also blocking the earth's +/- 7 Hz (Shumann frequency) 'micropulsations'.ÃâàThe lower you go in terms of frequency (i.e., the larger the wavelength), the harder it is to block EMFs--as a rule.ÃâàIt is relatively easy to block microwaves (~ centimeters wavelength) because at such high frequencies (Megahertz to Gigahertz) the EM waves are unable to penetrate very far into a conductor.ÃâàThis is not true of lower frequencies (e.g. Kilohertz) like AM radio, where the wavelengths are hundreds of meters long.ÃâàEspecially for mains frequency (50/60 Hz) fields that have ~5 Km long wavelength.ÃâàAs far as I know, to block 60 Hz fields, you need to use specific high conductivity metals (copper, silver, mu metal) and it has to be quite thick because of the high surface area required for 5 Km waves to conduct. > > > > > > A Faraday cage made out of thin aluminium mesh (insect screen) can effectively block radio frequency waves because with short wavelengths, there is a corresponding reduction in the surface area required for conduction and hence, penetration is low.ÃâàThis low surface area requirement for radio frequency waves to conduct also allows the use of mesh, as opposed to a solid material (which provides a higher surface area for conduction). > > > > > > I've been studying this stuff recently.ÃâàI found this helpful 'primer' online, which was created to teach students about electromagnetism--by exploring the concepts involved with a Faraday Cageand by building one too. > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/images/3/3f/Faraday_Cage_Activity.pdf > > > > > > More comment about shumann resonance, sick astronauts & ill effects of Faraday cages in a bit...ÃâàI'm too irradiated right now! > > > > > > Here's my 'ELECTROSTRESSED' symbol/emoticon [!]: ÃâàÃâÃ Ã¢à ¡Ã¡$>(Ãâà> > > > > > ÃâàThis is the End...ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà> > > Ãâà> > > > > > Ãâà~=~ > > > ÃâàHJR > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet > > > You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Your utopia is speaking to me K... He, he, he... That's what I'm looking for, although I never attempted shielding. Once I saw the the effects of RF clearly, I've avoided being anywhere close to sources as much as possible.
I had one experience where I reacted to my father's new i7 laptop that was sleeping, and my meters picked up nothing. I kept feeling a burning sensation on my neck on the same side as the computer, that went away when I left his place... I certainly wasn't expecting to react to his laptop, haven't before. Maybe it's something else or might be a mystery, but I've learned to trust my body. When it speaks. I listen! :-) Tim ________________________________ From: kikkie2004 <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 1:12 PM Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance Hi Tim You are welcome. It does work for me as long as I am not too close tot the aluminum walls - I can feel the radiation then. A friend of mine who is very ES can't be in this room at all, the reflections are too bad for him. When I was much more ES I could feel these reflections too, now I hardly can. My meters don't pick these up.. So yes, it does work for me (only place where I can sleep), although utopia would obviously be no signal and no faraday cage :/. K --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@...> wrote: > > Thanks so much for the feedback K... This practitioner had different findings, and so that's why I posed the question to the group. I think if the faraday cage is working for you, that's the answer, eh? :-) If it's not, then perhaps a Schumann generator might be the next thing to test. > > > Having ES gives us a great opportunity to use our creativity and learn trial and error! :-) > > > Tim > > > > ________________________________ > From: kikkie2004 <kikkiehealth@...> > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:40 AM > Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > > >  > Hi Tim > > I think if the room you are shielding is on the ground floor, you don't need to shield the floor as the RF isn't going to come through the ground. > > My room is turned into a faraday cage with aluminum foil (and aluminum insect screen on the windows). Only the walls and ceilings are done. I've built it in such a way that everything is interconnected (i.e a multimeter can measure conductivity between any two points). And then it's well grounded to two earthing rods outside (i.e first to the one, and then from that one to the second one). > > My understanding is that the Schumann frequency will then still get through the ground. > > Thanks > K > > --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@> wrote: > > > > Hmmm, not sure... I thought to create an effective faraday cage for RF, it needs to be shielded on all sides and grounded, but I have no experience with this. The link that HJR provided below may help answer... > > > > I don't know if the Schumann frequency passes below the ground surface. The results of testing people living below ground indicated the Schumann resonance is found only above ground... > > > > Interesting thought! > > > > > > I suppose you could test your design with an RF meter and a meter that could measure the Schumann frequency. I wonder if a Spectran Spectrum Analyzer might pick it up... I would love one of those puppies! > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: egg_chips_and_beans <charliefoulkes@> > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:32 AM > > Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > > > > > > >  > > > > My understanding is that a faraday cage only has to be 5 sides of a cube... so assuming you slept on the floor (earthed) you would get the Schumann resonance anyway? > > > > e.g. much like a microwave oven has a window you get a side of the cage which could be used as the floor. > > > > --- In [hidden email], Tim <timheierman@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback HJR... > > > > > > > > > I wish we had the practitioner who made this comment here in the group, so she could give us more details. I wondered about this... Thanks for the info and primer link. It makes sense... > > > > > > Love your emoticon, LOL! Look forward to hearing your further thoughts and others as well... > > > > > > Happy grounding, > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: H J R <hudjr@> > > > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:10 PM > > > Subject: Re: [eSens] Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Tim wrote: > > > > > >  I have been treating electro sensitive clients with Schumann frequencies for over 10 years now so a word of > > > caution for those who are totally blocking out EMFs ....When making a Faradays cage for sleeping in or trying to shield your home > > > environment from effects of EMFs.... You are also simultaneously blocking out the Schumann frequencies and for many people with Electro > > > sensitivity > > > such shielding may initially appear to help the sufferers in respect of > > > protecting them from the EMFs but ultimately the symptoms > > > experienced > > > may change to mimic those experienced by the students in the film when > > > kept underground also as evidenced by the early astronauts > > > and > > > cosmonauts who were returning to earth sick, such symptoms were only > > > remedied once Schumann frequency generators were installed. > > > > > > I > > > wonder if anyone in the group might want to comment? Has anyone tried > > > shielding plus a Schumann generator? I looked back through recent posts and saw that Marc tried a generator but didn't have good results. > > > > > > Hud comments: > > > > > > I think it is a false assertion that a Faraday cage created for shielding against EMFs would have the effect of also blocking the earth's +/- 7 Hz (Shumann frequency) 'micropulsations'. The lower you go in terms of frequency (i.e., the larger the wavelength), the harder it is to block EMFs--as a rule. It is relatively easy to block microwaves (~ centimeters wavelength) because at such high frequencies (Megahertz to Gigahertz) the EM waves are unable to penetrate very far into a conductor. This is not true of lower frequencies (e.g. Kilohertz) like AM radio, where the wavelengths are hundreds of meters long. Especially for mains frequency (50/60 Hz) fields that have ~5 Km long wavelength. As far as I know, to block 60 Hz fields, you need to use specific high conductivity metals (copper, silver, mu metal) and it has to be quite thick because of the > > > > > > A Faraday cage made out of thin aluminium mesh (insect screen) can effectively block radio frequency waves because with short wavelengths, there is a corresponding reduction in the surface area required for conduction and hence, penetration is low. This low surface area requirement for radio frequency waves to conduct also allows the use of mesh, as opposed to a solid material (which provides a higher surface area for conduction). > > > > > > I've been studying this stuff recently. I found this helpful 'primer' online, which was created to teach students about electromagnetism--by exploring the concepts involved with a Faraday Cageand by building one too. > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/images/3/3f/Faraday_Cage_Activity.pdf > > > > > > More comment about shumann resonance, sick astronauts & ill effects of Faraday cages in a bit... I'm too irradiated right now! > > > > > > Here's my 'ELECTROSTRESSED' symbol/emoticon [!]:   ⚡$>( > > > > > >  This is the End...     > > >  > > > > > >  ~=~ > > >  HJR > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet > > > You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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On May 4, Tim <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I certainly wasn't expecting to react to his laptop, haven't before. Maybe it's something > else or might be a mystery, but I've learned to trust my body. When it speaks. I listen! :-) I'd suspect the laptop... I've been reacting to various laptop computers since 1999! Although some of them are okay... impossible to tell until you try them out, although I've had good luck with Lenovo's professional line in recent years. Marc |
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I suspected the laptop too Marc, a new 17" i7 Asus... It was apparently in sleep mode though, lid down, no RF and very little EMF. I'm scratching my head, no clear source...
At work I favored the Lenovo's as well, mainly the T series, although over the years they seem to be putting in more plastics, less metal. Tim ________________________________ From: Marc Martin <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance On May 4, Tim <[hidden email]> wrote: > I certainly wasn't expecting to react to his laptop, haven't before. Maybe it's something > else or might be a mystery, but I've learned to trust my body. When it speaks. I listen! :-) I'd suspect the laptop... I've been reacting to various laptop computers since 1999! Although some of them are okay... impossible to tell until you try them out, although I've had good luck with Lenovo's professional line in recent years. Marc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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K, What kind of meter(s) do you use? Do you have a basement below? I'm surprised you don't get any EMFs from below. Your friend might be reacting to the electricity conducting along the aluminium. If you have a relatively sensitive multimeter, you can measure the voltage on the walls and to check your ground. This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >________________________________ > From: kikkie2004 <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 2:12:20 PM >Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > >Hi Tim > >You are welcome. > >It does work for me as long as I am not too close tot the aluminum walls - I can feel the radiation then. A friend of mine who is very ES can't be in this room at all, the reflections are too bad for him. When I was much more ES I could feel these reflections too, now I hardly can. My meters don't pick these up.. > >So yes, it does work for me (only place where I can sleep), although utopia would obviously be no signal and no faraday cage :/. > >K > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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HI HJR
I have an acoustimeter for the RF, a trifield meter for the ELF and a Profispion. The latter has two settings, one for RF and one for NF (near frequencies). It's RF setting seems to be broken, but I use the NF for VLF - it 'buzzes' like an AM radio, but works better. --- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote: > > > > K, > > What kind of meter(s) do you use? Do you have a basement below? I'm surprised you don't get any EMFs from below. Your friend might be reacting to the electricity conducting along the aluminium. If you have a relatively sensitive multimeter, you can measure the voltage on the walls and to check your ground. > > > This is the End... > > > ~=~ > HJR > _________________________________________________________ > nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet > You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: kikkie2004 <kikkiehealth@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 2:12:20 PM > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > > > > >Hi Tim > > > >You are welcome. > > > >It does work for me as long as I am not too close tot the aluminum walls - I can feel the radiation then. A friend of mine who is very ES can't be in this room at all, the reflections are too bad for him. When I was much more ES I could feel these reflections too, now I hardly can. My meters don't pick these up.. > > > >So yes, it does work for me (only place where I can sleep), although utopia would obviously be no signal and no faraday cage :/. > > > >K > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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I have a TENMARS RF meter (up to 8 GHz) and it detects rfr even in the lower level of my apartment building's parking garage. Mobile phones work down there too. How is it possible, I wonder, that no rfr enters from below? Curious.
This is the End... ~=~ HJR _________________________________________________________ nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >________________________________ > From: kikkie2004 <[hidden email]> >To: [hidden email] >Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:39:09 AM >Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > >HI HJR > >I have an acoustimeter for the RF, a trifield meter for the ELF and a Profispion. The latter has two settings, one for RF and one for NF (near frequencies). It's RF setting seems to be broken, but I use the NF for VLF - it 'buzzes' like an AM radio, but works better. > > > >--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> K, >> >> What kind of meter(s) do you use? Do you have a basement below? I'm surprised you don't get any EMFs from below. Your friend might be reacting to the electricity conducting along the aluminium. If you have a relatively sensitive multimeter, you can measure the voltage on the walls and to check your ground. >> >> >> This is the End... >> >> >> ~=~ >> HJR >> _________________________________________________________ >> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet >> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: kikkie2004 <kikkiehealth@...> >> >To: [hidden email] >> >Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 2:12:20 PM >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance >> > >> > >> >Hi Tim >> > >> >You are welcome. >> > >> >It does work for me as long as I am not too close tot the aluminum walls - I can feel the radiation then. A friend of mine who is very ES can't be in this room at all, the reflections are too bad for him. When I was much more ES I could feel these reflections too, now I hardly can. My meters don't pick these up.. >> > >> >So yes, it does work for me (only place where I can sleep), although utopia would obviously be no signal and no faraday cage :/. >> > >> >K >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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HI HJR
Is it not possible that they're not coming through the ground, but being reflected down from higher up? Dunno, not really my field of expertise... Charles will probably know better. --- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@...> wrote: > > I have a TENMARS RF meter (up to 8 GHz) and it detects rfr even in the lower level of my apartment building's parking garage. Mobile phones work down there too. How is it possible, I wonder, that no rfr enters from below? Curious. > > > This is the End... > > > ~=~ > HJR > _________________________________________________________ > nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet > You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: kikkie2004 <kikkiehealth@...> > >To: [hidden email] > >Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:39:09 AM > >Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > > > > > >HI HJR > > > >I have an acoustimeter for the RF, a trifield meter for the ELF and a Profispion. The latter has two settings, one for RF and one for NF (near frequencies). It's RF setting seems to be broken, but I use the NF for VLF - it 'buzzes' like an AM radio, but works better. > > > > > > > >--- In [hidden email], H J R <hudjr@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> K, > >> > >> What kind of meter(s) do you use? Do you have a basement below? I'm surprised you don't get any EMFs from below. Your friend might be reacting to the electricity conducting along the aluminium. If you have a relatively sensitive multimeter, you can measure the voltage on the walls and to check your ground. > >> > >> > >> This is the End... > >> > >> > >> ~=~ > >> HJR > >> _________________________________________________________ > >> nam tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet > >> You too are in danger when your neighbor's house is on fire (Horace) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ > >> > From: kikkie2004 <kikkiehealth@> > >> >To: [hidden email] > >> >Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 2:12:20 PM > >> >Subject: [eSens] Re: Faraday cages and the Schumann Resonance > >> > > >> > > >> >Hi Tim > >> > > >> >You are welcome. > >> > > >> >It does work for me as long as I am not too close tot the aluminum walls - I can feel the radiation then. A friend of mine who is very ES can't be in this room at all, the reflections are too bad for him. When I was much more ES I could feel these reflections too, now I hardly can. My meters don't pick these up.. > >> > > >> >So yes, it does work for me (only place where I can sleep), although utopia would obviously be no signal and no faraday cage :/. > >> > > >> >K > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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