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kikkie2004
Hi all

I am severely sensitive to electromagnetic stress (I think I've always been, but it's worsened so that these last three months I've had to avoid absolutely everything - the computer (try to keep it to no more than 15 minutes per day), hairdryers, the car (although I can't completely stay away from it).  I've even had to switch off the fridge at the socket before using it, we're cooking on gas, etc.

Anyway, I built myself a Faraday cage about two months ago.  With aluminium insulation sheets, and aluminium fly mesh / screen over the windows.  My and my husband's mobile phones both lose signal in there completely (different service providers).  The trifield meter shows low readings, and the AM radio (my only 'meter' for higher frequencies is mostly quiet inside (as opposed to very noisy through the rest of the house).

The problem is that after the first few days, I actually started feeling worse in the cage.  It's like I can feel radiation reflecting off the walls, and I can also taste the metal in my mouth.  And also a feeling of burning in my chest and down my spine (which is my usual EMF symptoms when sitting infront of the PC, etc).

It's all interconnected (ohm meter reads between any two spots) and it's earthed with two earthing spikes.  (I have to keep the earthing spike wet all the time, I can feel the difference when it goes dry).

There's a energy saver street lamp right outside the window, I don't know whether it might be 'overloading' the cage, but I also get this feeling during the day when it's not on.

So anyway, since I'm moving soon, I have decided to not redo the Faraday cage in my new house, nor get a canopy, which would be close to my body as well re breathing in metal ions etc.

My question is:  I have been thinking of getting metal curtains, like Naturel or Aaronia. But would this not end up giving me the same problem?  Will they not just also give of metal ions that I would breath in (or is this limited to certain metals like aluminium?) And would they not also act as an antenna for radiation, especially since most of them are not earthed?

Thanks for any answers!

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Re: Faraday cage

Emil at Less EMF Inc
You might want to try lining a good part of the enclosure with an RF absorber, such as this one: http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html#259N

It will abosrb the RF which is leaking into the enclosure, instead of your body doing it all.

Emil
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PUK
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puk replies - I tried to sheild from my neighbours dect and wifi by laying  
mylar in the roof and sticking reflective window sheild on the windows that
a  signal could be picked up by my esmog detector, it stoppped most of the
signal  bar the upvc frames, it was great to begin with ie thought id
cracked it  feeling, but now I cant sleep at all up stairs, just lie there trying
to ignore  the tinitus and wurring sensations in my head, basically lyong
all night awake  but with my eyes closed !!!! I rekon I have done the same
causing refelections  and thus absorbing more due to lack of escape routes for
the microwaves.  I  have found a spot elsewhere where I can sleep and
actually enjoy a good dream in  the bargain !!!!
 
p
 
 
In a message dated 09/10/2010 16:26:12 GMT Daylight Time,  
[hidden email] writes:

 
 
 
Hi all

I am severely sensitive to electromagnetic stress (I think  I've always
been, but it's worsened so that these last three months I've had  to avoid
absolutely everything - the computer (try to keep it to no more than  15 minutes
per day), hairdryers, the car (although I can't completely stay  away from
it). I've even had to switch off the fridge at the socket before  using it,
we're cooking on gas, etc.

Anyway, I built myself a Faraday  cage about two months ago. With aluminium
insulation sheets, and aluminium fly  mesh / screen over the windows. My
and my husband's mobile phones both lose  signal in there completely
(different service providers). The trifield meter  shows low readings, and the AM
radio (my only 'meter' for higher frequencies  is mostly quiet inside (as
opposed to very noisy through the rest of the  house).

The problem is that after the first few days, I actually  started feeling
worse in the cage. It's like I can feel radiation reflecting  off the walls,
and I can also taste the metal in my mouth. And also a feeling  of burning
in my chest and down my spine (which is my usual EMF symptoms when  sitting
infront of the PC, etc).

It's all interconnected (ohm meter  reads between any two spots) and it's
earthed with two earthing spikes. (I  have to keep the earthing spike wet all
the time, I can feel the difference  when it goes dry).

There's a energy saver street lamp right outside the  window, I don't know
whether it might be 'overloading' the cage, but I also  get this feeling
during the day when it's not on.

So anyway, since I'm  moving soon, I have decided to not redo the Faraday
cage in my new house, nor  get a canopy, which would be close to my body as
well re breathing in metal  ions etc.

My question is: I have been thinking of getting metal  curtains, like
Naturel or Aaronia. But would this not end up giving me the  same problem? Will
they not just also give of metal ions that I would breath  in (or is this
limited to certain metals like aluminium?) And would they not  also act as an
antenna for radiation, especially since most of them are not  earthed?

Thanks for any answers!





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Rixta Francis
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  This is an interesting story for me, but for other reasons than for
the people who reacted. I have done several small tests with aluminium
foil and it didn't do anything. I thought that that's because aluminium
is not magnetic (I really know hardly anything about physics). But here
I read that aluminium materials do work. Can anyone explain to me where
this difference comes from? My radio still worked fine wrapped in
aluminium foil...

Rixta

> Hi all
>
> I am severely sensitive to electromagnetic stress (I think I've always been, but it's worsened so that these last three months I've had to avoid absolutely everything - the computer (try to keep it to no more than 15 minutes per day), hairdryers, the car (although I can't completely stay away from it).  I've even had to switch off the fridge at the socket before using it, we're cooking on gas, etc.
>
> Anyway, I built myself a Faraday cage about two months ago.  With aluminium insulation sheets, and aluminium fly mesh / screen over the windows.  My and my husband's mobile phones both lose signal in there completely (different service providers).  The trifield meter shows low readings, and the AM radio (my only 'meter' for higher frequencies is mostly quiet inside (as opposed to very noisy through the rest of the house).
>
> The problem is that after the first few days, I actually started feeling worse in the cage.  It's like I can feel radiation reflecting off the walls, and I can also taste the metal in my mouth.  And also a feeling of burning in my chest and down my spine (which is my usual EMF symptoms when sitting infront of the PC, etc).
>
> It's all interconnected (ohm meter reads between any two spots) and it's earthed with two earthing spikes.  (I have to keep the earthing spike wet all the time, I can feel the difference when it goes dry).
>
> There's a energy saver street lamp right outside the window, I don't know whether it might be 'overloading' the cage, but I also get this feeling during the day when it's not on.
>
> So anyway, since I'm moving soon, I have decided to not redo the Faraday cage in my new house, nor get a canopy, which would be close to my body as well re breathing in metal ions etc.
>
> My question is:  I have been thinking of getting metal curtains, like Naturel or Aaronia. But would this not end up giving me the same problem?  Will they not just also give of metal ions that I would breath in (or is this limited to certain metals like aluminium?) And would they not also act as an antenna for radiation, especially since most of them are not earthed?
>
> Thanks for any answers!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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skolyer
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They say that aluminum reflects outward but also radiates inward.  My mobile home is aluminum sided and skirted but I've had to put a second layer of shielding on the inside to get it to work for me.  It takes a lot of shielding to get the desired effect.

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kikkie2004
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Hi Rixta

It seems to block out some signals, not all.

My cell doesn't get reception in there, but the FM radio still does. The AM buzz has gone mostly quiet.

--- In [hidden email], Rixta Francis <rixta.francis@...> wrote:

>
>   This is an interesting story for me, but for other reasons than for
> the people who reacted. I have done several small tests with aluminium
> foil and it didn't do anything. I thought that that's because aluminium
> is not magnetic (I really know hardly anything about physics). But here
> I read that aluminium materials do work. Can anyone explain to me where
> this difference comes from? My radio still worked fine wrapped in
> aluminium foil...
>
> Rixta
> > Hi all
> >
> > I am severely sensitive to electromagnetic stress (I think I've always been, but it's worsened so that these last three months I've had to avoid absolutely everything - the computer (try to keep it to no more than 15 minutes per day), hairdryers, the car (although I can't completely stay away from it).  I've even had to switch off the fridge at the socket before using it, we're cooking on gas, etc.
> >
> > Anyway, I built myself a Faraday cage about two months ago.  With aluminium insulation sheets, and aluminium fly mesh / screen over the windows.  My and my husband's mobile phones both lose signal in there completely (different service providers).  The trifield meter shows low readings, and the AM radio (my only 'meter' for higher frequencies is mostly quiet inside (as opposed to very noisy through the rest of the house).
> >
> > The problem is that after the first few days, I actually started feeling worse in the cage.  It's like I can feel radiation reflecting off the walls, and I can also taste the metal in my mouth.  And also a feeling of burning in my chest and down my spine (which is my usual EMF symptoms when sitting infront of the PC, etc).
> >
> > It's all interconnected (ohm meter reads between any two spots) and it's earthed with two earthing spikes.  (I have to keep the earthing spike wet all the time, I can feel the difference when it goes dry).
> >
> > There's a energy saver street lamp right outside the window, I don't know whether it might be 'overloading' the cage, but I also get this feeling during the day when it's not on.
> >
> > So anyway, since I'm moving soon, I have decided to not redo the Faraday cage in my new house, nor get a canopy, which would be close to my body as well re breathing in metal ions etc.
> >
> > My question is:  I have been thinking of getting metal curtains, like Naturel or Aaronia. But would this not end up giving me the same problem?  Will they not just also give of metal ions that I would breath in (or is this limited to certain metals like aluminium?) And would they not also act as an antenna for radiation, especially since most of them are not earthed?
> >
> > Thanks for any answers!
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Our website: http://members.westnet.com.au/rixta.francis
>


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Re: Faraday cage

kikkie2004
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Yeah, that was exactly the same for me: better initially and then worse after a while.

I still think it might be a charge build-up, it's much better if I keep the earthing spike really wet with a running hosepipe.

And also much better since I took out the floor (it's a ground floor room). All in all I think the best solution would be to go and live in the middle of nowhere without any cell/radio/TV reception.  

But not so easy to do practically.


--- In [hidden email], paulpjc@... wrote:

>
> puk replies - I tried to sheild from my neighbours dect and wifi by laying  
> mylar in the roof and sticking reflective window sheild on the windows that
> a  signal could be picked up by my esmog detector, it stoppped most of the
> signal  bar the upvc frames, it was great to begin with ie thought id
> cracked it  feeling, but now I cant sleep at all up stairs, just lie there trying
> to ignore  the tinitus and wurring sensations in my head, basically lyong
> all night awake  but with my eyes closed !!!! I rekon I have done the same
> causing refelections  and thus absorbing more due to lack of escape routes for
> the microwaves.  I  have found a spot elsewhere where I can sleep and
> actually enjoy a good dream in  the bargain !!!!
>  
> p
>  
>  
> In a message dated 09/10/2010 16:26:12 GMT Daylight Time,  
> kirsty.weight@... writes:
>
>  
>  
>  
> Hi all
>
> I am severely sensitive to electromagnetic stress (I think  I've always
> been, but it's worsened so that these last three months I've had  to avoid
> absolutely everything - the computer (try to keep it to no more than  15 minutes
> per day), hairdryers, the car (although I can't completely stay  away from
> it). I've even had to switch off the fridge at the socket before  using it,
> we're cooking on gas, etc.
>
> Anyway, I built myself a Faraday  cage about two months ago. With aluminium
> insulation sheets, and aluminium fly  mesh / screen over the windows. My
> and my husband's mobile phones both lose  signal in there completely
> (different service providers). The trifield meter  shows low readings, and the AM
> radio (my only 'meter' for higher frequencies  is mostly quiet inside (as
> opposed to very noisy through the rest of the  house).
>
> The problem is that after the first few days, I actually  started feeling
> worse in the cage. It's like I can feel radiation reflecting  off the walls,
> and I can also taste the metal in my mouth. And also a feeling  of burning
> in my chest and down my spine (which is my usual EMF symptoms when  sitting
> infront of the PC, etc).
>
> It's all interconnected (ohm meter  reads between any two spots) and it's
> earthed with two earthing spikes. (I  have to keep the earthing spike wet all
> the time, I can feel the difference  when it goes dry).
>
> There's a energy saver street lamp right outside the  window, I don't know
> whether it might be 'overloading' the cage, but I also  get this feeling
> during the day when it's not on.
>
> So anyway, since I'm  moving soon, I have decided to not redo the Faraday
> cage in my new house, nor  get a canopy, which would be close to my body as
> well re breathing in metal  ions etc.
>
> My question is: I have been thinking of getting metal  curtains, like
> Naturel or Aaronia. But would this not end up giving me the  same problem? Will
> they not just also give of metal ions that I would breath  in (or is this
> limited to certain metals like aluminium?) And would they not  also act as an
> antenna for radiation, especially since most of them are not  earthed?
>
> Thanks for any answers!
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>