Family issues

I tried to celebrate Christmas with  family hoping I could ignore symptoms from their smart meter.

I could feel the difference in their house immediately. I felt dizzy, and the weird sensations many feel. After an hour I had enough & had to leave.

I mentioned I couldn't handle 4G. They said they don't have Wi-fi. I treid to explain our air space is different, & can't their smart meters makes it worse. I don't know if I'll convince them to have their meters removed, but have tried & will continue. It's amazing how others don't concern themselves after reading the research, if they don't have symptoms.

Do most of you stay home now?

Kathy




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> Do most of you stay home now?

Visiting others can certainly be a problem... yesterday I spent
some time in someone's home, and I'm pretty sure they had wi-fi,
plus all the guests had their cellphones on...  I didn't have to
leave, but it was noticeably different than our house...

Marc

Marc,

What are the biggest things you did that helped
you tolerate WI-FI easier? You may not be this
sensitive to it.

That is the major thing I can't handle. ES was minor until
4G. I went to the same place last year & stayed for hours
just uncomfortable. .

This year dizzy. 

Kathy

















 



 


   
     
     
     

Visiting others can certainly be a problem... yesterday I spent

some time in someone's home, and I'm pretty sure they had wi-fi,

plus all the guests had their cellphones on...  I didn't have to

leave, but it was noticeably different than our house...



Marc



   
     

   
   






 










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> What are the biggest things you did that helped
> you tolerate WI-FI easier? You may not be this
> sensitive to it.

I'm not sure that I have a "quick fix" for wi-fi
sensitivity.  My ES problems were worst and got
better before wi-fi was in widespread use.  I
suspect that there are dietary solutions,
EMF protection device solutions, and detox
solutions, but I don't have anything definite
to suggest.  Maybe someone else does?

Marc

Kathy,
Marc is right, no easy fix. But one thing I have found, if I know I have to go out to those wifi/strong radiation areas,
I take Spirulena (greeny powder in water), that is all I eat before I go out-it is high protein,( the brand I take is: loaded with nutrients and high in the B vitamins, very alkaline, raw and organic.) I add  Tablespoon of Aloe Vera Whole Leaf to this, I take extra Tumeric, extra Iodine, I do a shot of Baking Soda water (1 teaspoon baking soda, 4 oz of water) and I carry with me: a jar of Baking Soda water (this keeps me alkalized- radiation turns the body acidic) and a  2 oz glass spray bottle of Peppermint water. This is anti bacterial, anti fungal, anti inflammatory, big time help with stomach issues....and a bag of almonds for protein in case I get hungry on the road, with my own water bottle.
Then when I get home, I make a cup of Holy Basil Tea, and add sliced Ginger root (lots) ..Ginger is also an anti inflammatory herb.
I also, as I do every day, take my other supplements like thyoid, adrenal, IODINE, ect. In the earlier days I would also take extra Calcium (coral calcium)..these days I don't need to take as much, but it may be of help to others to take extra calcium before and after "exposures". Oh, and if the area I went to is particularly strong with pulsing radiation, I will also do a Magnesium Chloride Oil foot soak, the night before and when I get home from the errands.
Lizzie
 



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> What are the biggest things you did that helped
> you tolerate WI-FI easier? You may not be this
> sensitive to it.

I'm not sure that I have a "quick fix" for wi-fi
sensitivity. My ES problems were worst and got
better before wi-fi was in widespread use. I
suspect that there are dietary solutions,
EMF protection device solutions, and detox
solutions, but I don't have anything definite
to suggest. Maybe someone else does?

Marc



     

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Elizabeth,

Thank you. I need more work on supplements & diet.

Low minerals or thyroid must be the reason one feels tired after exposure.

What do you think about seaweed? I read a book about juicing & replacing bread w Nori sheets.

Kathy


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Kathy,

Marc is right, no easy fix. But one thing I have found, if I know I have to go out to those wifi/strong radiation areas,

I take Spirulena (greeny powder in water), that is all I eat before I go out-it is high protein,( the brand I take is: loaded with nutrients and high in the B vitamins, very alkaline, raw and organic.) I add  Tablespoon of Aloe Vera Whole Leaf to this, I take extra Tumeric, extra Iodine, I do a shot of Baking Soda water (1 teaspoon baking soda, 4 oz of water) and I carry with me: a jar of Baking Soda water (this keeps me alkalized- radiation turns the body acidic) and a  2 oz glass spray bottle of Peppermint water. This is anti bacterial, anti fungal, anti inflammatory, big time help with stomach issues....and a bag of almonds for protein in case I get hungry on the road, with my own water bottle.

Then when I get home, I make a cup of Holy Basil Tea, and add sliced Ginger root (lots) ..Ginger is also an anti inflammatory herb.

I also, as I do every day, take my other supplements like thyoid, adrenal, IODINE, ect. In the earlier days I would also take extra Calcium (coral calcium)..these days I don't need to take as much, but it may be of help to others to take extra calcium before and after "exposures". Oh, and if the area I went to is particularly strong with pulsing radiation, I will also do a Magnesium Chloride Oil foot soak, the night before and when I get home from the errands.

Lizzie

 



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> What are the biggest things you did that helped

> you tolerate WI-FI easier?






 










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> What do you think about seaweed?

You just need to try it out and see -- on this group, we
see such huge individual variations in reactions to things.
Personally, I've found several "sea" products to be very
helpful, while others might find the same things unhelpful
or even harmful.

Marc

Well.......I love seaweed and nori sheets. There are two issues here.
As a replacement for IODINE??? Unless you plan on eating seaweed
all day long, every meal, every day....chances are high, you won't get
enough IODINE. Its the same issue with Kelp. The body has Iodine receptors
in every organ! That means the body needs ALOT of IODINE. I do take seaweed,
in addition to taking IODINE. The second issue is the purity of the nori sheetsKelp
and seaweed. Its no secret our waters have been polluted..mercury comes to mind.
I avoid each and every possible source of that NASTY toxin I can.
Its easy to get it IN the body....a real witch to get it OUT.
As a nutritious add on to a diet, providing the source gives you safety data infor-
this means the company TEST the product to ensure it is clean of mercury/pcb's,
etc. ....its fine. I've said it before and I'll keep on saying this: it makes NO sense
to add to the body's toxin burden if someone is already sick.
 
As a way to replace Iodine...understanding most people are severely
deficient in Iodine....its like you being starving, and me giving you a crumb. That lit'l
tiny crumb is not going to fill your belly.
Lizzie

 



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Elizabeth,

Thank you. I need more work on supplements & diet.

Low minerals or thyroid must be the reason one feels tired after exposure.

What do you think about seaweed? I read a book about juicing & replacing bread w Nori sheets.

Kathy

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Kathy,

Marc is right, no easy fix. But one thing I have found, if I know I have to go out to those wifi/strong radiation areas,

I take Spirulena (greeny powder in water), that is all I eat before I go out-it is high protein,( the brand I take is: loaded with nutrients and high in the B vitamins, very alkaline, raw and organic.) I add Tablespoon of Aloe Vera Whole Leaf to this, I take extra Tumeric, extra Iodine, I do a shot of Baking Soda water (1 teaspoon baking soda, 4 oz of water) and I carry with me: a jar of Baking Soda water (this keeps me alkalized- radiation turns the body acidic) and a 2 oz glass spray bottle of Peppermint water. This is anti bacterial, anti fungal, anti inflammatory, big time help with stomach issues....and a bag of almonds for protein in case I get hungry on the road, with my own water bottle.

Then when I get home, I make a cup of Holy Basil Tea, and add sliced Ginger root (lots) ..Ginger is also an anti inflammatory herb.

I also, as I do every day, take my other supplements like thyoid, adrenal, IODINE, ect. In the earlier days I would also take extra Calcium (coral calcium)..these days I don't need to take as much, but it may be of help to others to take extra calcium before and after "exposures". Oh, and if the area I went to is particularly strong with pulsing radiation, I will also do a Magnesium Chloride Oil foot soak, the night before and when I get home from the errands.

Lizzie

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> What are the biggest things you did that helped

> you tolerate WI-FI easier?

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HI Lizzie, can you elaborate as to what you use as a source of iodine.

Thanks

A



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Well.......I love seaweed and nori sheets. There are two issues here.
As a replacement for IODINE??? Unless you plan on eating seaweed
all day long, every meal, every day....chances are high, you won't get
enough IODINE. Its the same issue with Kelp. The body has Iodine receptors
in every organ! That means the body needs ALOT of IODINE. I do take seaweed,
in addition to taking IODINE. The second issue is the purity of the nori sheetsKelp
and seaweed. Its no secret our waters have been polluted..mercury comes to mind.
I avoid each and every possible source of that NASTY toxin I can.
Its easy to get it IN the body....a real witch to get it OUT.
As a nutritious add on to a diet, providing the source gives you safety data infor-
this means the company TEST the product to ensure it is clean of mercury/pcb's,
etc. ....its fine. I've said it before and I'll keep on saying this: it makes NO sense
to add to the body's toxin burden if someone is already sick.

As a way to replace Iodine...understanding most people are severely
deficient in Iodine....its like you being starving, and me giving you a crumb. That lit'l
tiny crumb is not going to fill your belly.
Lizzie

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:25:24 -0800
Subject: RE: [eSens] Family issues

Elizabeth,

Thank you. I need more work on supplements & diet.

Low minerals or thyroid must be the reason one feels tired after exposure.

What do you think about seaweed? I read a book about juicing & replacing bread w Nori sheets.

Kathy

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RE: [eSens] Family issues

Kathy,

Marc is right, no easy fix. But one thing I have found, if I know I have to go out to those wifi/strong radiation areas,

I take Spirulena (greeny powder in water), that is all I eat before I go out-it is high protein,( the brand I take is: loaded with nutrients and high in the B vitamins, very alkaline, raw and organic.) I add Tablespoon of Aloe Vera Whole Leaf to this, I take extra Tumeric, extra Iodine, I do a shot of Baking Soda water (1 teaspoon baking soda, 4 oz of water) and I carry with me: a jar of Baking Soda water (this keeps me alkalized- radiation turns the body acidic) and a 2 oz glass spray bottle of Peppermint water. This is anti bacterial, anti fungal, anti inflammatory, big time help with stomach issues....and a bag of almonds for protein in case I get hungry on the road, with my own water bottle.

Then when I get home, I make a cup of Holy Basil Tea, and add sliced Ginger root (lots) ..Ginger is also an anti inflammatory herb.

I also, as I do every day, take my other supplements like thyoid, adrenal, IODINE, ect. In the earlier days I would also take extra Calcium (coral calcium)..these days I don't need to take as much, but it may be of help to others to take extra calcium before and after "exposures". Oh, and if the area I went to is particularly strong with pulsing radiation, I will also do a Magnesium Chloride Oil foot soak, the night before and when I get home from the errands.

Lizzie

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From: [hidden email]

Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 08:08:12 -0800

Subject: Re: [eSens] Family issues

> What are the biggest things you did that helped

> you tolerate WI-FI easier?

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> As a way to replace Iodine...understanding most people are severely
> deficient in Iodine....its like you being starving, and me giving you a crumb. That lit'l
> tiny crumb is not going to fill your belly.

Yes, but remember Lizzie -- some people are too sensitive to be mega-dosing
iodine.  Starting at small doses and seeing if you can tolerate more is
the safest way to go.

Marc

A,
I like www.magnascent.com
I've got friends who tried swanson's....then this one that I use. They said no comparison! They got results with mine, and none with the other brand.
The reason I like this one is that it is easier for the thyroid to metabolize this form of Iodine.
 
Lizzie
 



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HI Lizzie, can you elaborate as to what you use as a source of iodine.

Thanks

A

________________________________
From: Elizabeth thode <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2011, 21:52
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Well.......I love seaweed and nori sheets. There are two issues here.
As a replacement for IODINE??? Unless you plan on eating seaweed
all day long, every meal, every day....chances are high, you won't get
enough IODINE. Its the same issue with Kelp. The body has Iodine receptors
in every organ! That means the body needs ALOT of IODINE. I do take seaweed,
in addition to taking IODINE. The second issue is the purity of the nori sheetsKelp
and seaweed. Its no secret our waters have been polluted..mercury comes to mind.
I avoid each and every possible source of that NASTY toxin I can.
Its easy to get it IN the body....a real witch to get it OUT.
As a nutritious add on to a diet, providing the source gives you safety data infor-
this means the company TEST the product to ensure it is clean of mercury/pcb's,
etc. ....its fine. I've said it before and I'll keep on saying this: it makes NO sense
to add to the body's toxin burden if someone is already sick.

As a way to replace Iodine...understanding most people are severely
deficient in Iodine....its like you being starving, and me giving you a crumb. That lit'l
tiny crumb is not going to fill your belly.
Lizzie

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:25:24 -0800
Subject: RE: [eSens] Family issues

Elizabeth,

Thank you. I need more work on supplements & diet.

Low minerals or thyroid must be the reason one feels tired after exposure.

What do you think about seaweed? I read a book about juicing & replacing bread w Nori sheets.

Kathy

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RE: [eSens] Family issues

Kathy,

Marc is right, no easy fix. But one thing I have found, if I know I have to go out to those wifi/strong radiation areas,

I take Spirulena (greeny powder in water), that is all I eat before I go out-it is high protein,( the brand I take is: loaded with nutrients and high in the B vitamins, very alkaline, raw and organic.) I add Tablespoon of Aloe Vera Whole Leaf to this, I take extra Tumeric, extra Iodine, I do a shot of Baking Soda water (1 teaspoon baking soda, 4 oz of water) and I carry with me: a jar of Baking Soda water (this keeps me alkalized- radiation turns the body acidic) and a 2 oz glass spray bottle of Peppermint water. This is anti bacterial, anti fungal, anti inflammatory, big time help with stomach issues....and a bag of almonds for protein in case I get hungry on the road, with my own water bottle.

Then when I get home, I make a cup of Holy Basil Tea, and add sliced Ginger root (lots) ..Ginger is also an anti inflammatory herb.

I also, as I do every day, take my other supplements like thyoid, adrenal, IODINE, ect. In the earlier days I would also take extra Calcium (coral calcium)..these days I don't need to take as much, but it may be of help to others to take extra calcium before and after "exposures". Oh, and if the area I went to is particularly strong with pulsing radiation, I will also do a Magnesium Chloride Oil foot soak, the night before and when I get home from the errands.

Lizzie

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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 08:08:12 -0800

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> What are the biggest things you did that helped

> you tolerate WI-FI easier?

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Absolutely..starting at 1-2 drops, for a few days and see how you feel. Then gradually
every 4-5 days or so, increase the dose. I have known people who were SO very sensitive
and had screwed up metabolisms, who started out only being able to take Iodine by
putting a few drops in the belly button. Sounds weird, but for them, it worked just fine.
I have other friends who put a few drops right under their tongue...then they drink some
water. I know someone who  puts IOdine liberally on their feet.
And some just add the drops to water and drink, on an empty stomach. The point is,
the body needs Iodine, as much as you can tolerate, until you get to where you can
increase the dose. And taking it on the skin? Bypasses the liver, so the liver does not
have to metabolize it. This might be why some people do better taking both Iodine
and the Magnesium topically, on the skin.
I started with very small doses myself, 3-5 drops in water. I would also put a few drops
on my hands and sometimes, right on the neck...I have a friend who put Iodine on her
nose, on a growth...it took about 3 weeks, the thing scabbed over, fell off. Tissue underneath
was beautiful.
Lizzie
 



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> As a way to replace Iodine...understanding most people are severely
> deficient in Iodine....its like you being starving, and me giving you a crumb. That lit'l
> tiny crumb is not going to fill your belly.

Yes, but remember Lizzie -- some people are too sensitive to be mega-dosing
iodine. Starting at small doses and seeing if you can tolerate more is
the safest way to go.

Marc



     

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Elizabeth told me about Magnscent Iodine. It's made in grain alcohol, the only form of alcohol recommended by
Dr. Hulda Clark. http://www.magnascent.com/  See what is available in the UK.

Kathy

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      HI Lizzie, can you elaborate as to what you use as a source of iodine.



Thanks



A



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Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2011, 21:52

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Well.......I love seaweed and nori sheets. There are two issues here.

As a replacement for IODINE??? Unless you plan on eating seaweed

all day long, every meal, every day....chances are high, you won't get

enough IODINE. Its the same issue with Kelp. The body has Iodine receptors

in every organ! That means the body needs ALOT of IODINE. I do take seaweed,

in addition to taking IODINE. The second issue is the purity of the nori sheetsKelp

and seaweed. Its no secret our waters have been polluted..mercury comes to mind.

I avoid each and every possible source of that NASTY toxin I can.

Its easy to get it IN the body....a real witch to get it OUT.

As a nutritious add on to a diet, providing the source gives you safety data infor-

this means the company TEST the product to ensure it is clean of mercury/pcb's,

etc. ....its fine. I've said it before and I'll keep on saying this: it makes NO sense

to add to the body's toxin burden if someone is already sick.



As a way to replace Iodine...understanding most people are severely

deficient in Iodine....its like you being starving, and me giving you a crumb. That lit'l

tiny crumb is not going to fill your belly.

Lizzie



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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:25:24 -0800

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Elizabeth,



Thank you. I need more work on supplements & diet.



Low minerals or thyroid must be the reason one feels tired after exposure.



What do you think about seaweed? I read a book about juicing & replacing bread w Nori sheets.



Kathy



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Kathy,



Marc is right, no easy fix. But one thing I have found, if I know I have to go out to those wifi/strong radiation areas,



I take Spirulena (greeny powder in water), that is all I eat before I go out-it is high protein,( the brand I take is: loaded with nutrients and high in the B vitamins, very alkaline, raw and organic.) I add Tablespoon of Aloe Vera Whole Leaf to this, I take extra Tumeric, extra Iodine, I do a shot of Baking Soda water (1 teaspoon baking soda, 4 oz of water) and I carry with me: a jar of Baking Soda water (this keeps me alkalized- radiation turns the body acidic) and a 2 oz glass spray bottle of Peppermint water. This is anti bacterial, anti fungal, anti inflammatory, big time help with stomach issues....and a bag of almonds for protein in case I get hungry on the road, with my own water bottle.



Then when I get home, I make a cup of Holy Basil Tea, and add sliced Ginger root (lots) ..Ginger is also an anti inflammatory herb.



I also, as I do every day, take my other supplements like thyoid, adrenal, IODINE, ect. In the earlier days I would also take extra Calcium (coral calcium)..these days I don't need to take as much, but it may be of help to others to take extra calcium before and after "exposures". Oh, and if the area I went to is particularly strong with pulsing radiation, I will also do a Magnesium Chloride Oil foot soak, the night before and when I get home from the errands.



Lizzie



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> What are the biggest things you did that helped



> you tolerate WI-FI easier?



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